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New Linux Distribution — Exherbo, Announced
An anonymous reader writes "Former Gentoo developer Bryan Østergaard recently announced a new linux distribution aptly named Exherbo. The distribution, which has been underway for a couple of months and is based on ideas and experiences from his long work with Gentoo, features a new packaging format and several subprojects, such as a redesigned init system. Currently no installation medium is available but their package tree is public for the daring ones who want to play with the upcoming distribution. The developers strongly discourage any serious use though, as it's still highly experimental."
But does it run Linux?
Aptly? I don't think that word means what you think it means
So basically, it is supposed to be easier to use, but is incompatible with gentoo? Sounds useful...
A new package format. Just what we need. ... Oh well must be a slow day.
Man I have to admit that after reading the site I really want noting to do with this distro. Why is it even on Slashdot?
See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
"aptly named Exherbo" I've read both FAs and I can't see why. Am I missing something obvious?
I'll probably get modded down by the groupthink mods around here (hint: metamods: moderate any downmods as unfair)...
but really, is this what the Linux user community needs? Yet another Linux distro. Wow. And maybe we can add a new window manager and another variant of Firefox/IceWeasel/Netscape/etc.
It's really a shame for F/OSS that, time and time again, there is such a huge duplication of effort and half-assed half-finished projects lying around in the junkyard of the Open Source cemetery.
I was just thinking the other day Linux users need more options to choose from.
There are tons of linux distributions that are "new" and more ambitious than this one. In fact, reading the project aims on the website gave me the impression that this is a highly specialized project by somebody who has an axe to grind with the gentoo community. With so many existing gentoo variants out there with larger scope and communities, I am having problems appreciating the notability of this article and why it's even on Slashdot. I normally expect tighter coverage of Linux topics than this.
Seriously, they treat this thing like they're trying to hype it. "It's not ready for users, not even developers!" The only thing it's ready for is Guatemalan Insane Asylum Inmates! Avert your eyes!
It is funny that they claim more progress working on this for six months than working on Gentoo for four years. Because of bickering and criticism. I can totally believe that. I wish them tons of success!
My work here is dung.
Sheesh, don't we have enough non-BSD non-SYSV unix init systems yet? Solaris has their own, Mac OS X has a different one, and I think I recall hearing some other distro changed theirs as well. This fragmentation is irritating for sysadmins and gains little. Have these people looked at the other systems out there (Sun's, Apple's, etc) and seen what needs of theirs are not met? Perhaps extending one of these would be worth considering...
Altho honestly, I find SysV style init to work just fine.
Yeah. That's right. Aptly named. Because boy, when I heard it described, "exherbo" just jumped out at me.
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... is not going to come from this.
I'd like to see the rationale for creating yet another new packaging system. What's wrong with the current ways, and what will the new way fix?
It might be worth checking out just for that!
OK, I don't need to try it. However, I'm curious about one thing:OK, wikipedia has no clue what an "Exherbo" is. What is an "Exherbo" and why is it such an apt name? I don't speak Klingon, are there any Klingons here that can explain this to me?
From TFA I would guess that "Exherbo" means "fuck you" in Swahili?
mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
Exherbo is dead..
.. for a new Linux packaging format?
Well?
[....]
Give a man a fish and you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish, and he'll say "WHERE'S MY FISH, YOU IDIOT?"
Nope. All the other 500 previous distros weren't build properly, but this one will be. Mark their words.
Aren't there enough already? I know we don't want Linux to get stagnant (if that's even possible) but there are already hundreds of distributions, with a handful (or two) of "major" ones.
If he wants to make Linux easier to use- why not team up with {insert your favorite desktop distribution here}?
And really- "Exherbo"? What is that supposed to mean? It was hard enough to get my head around "Ubuntu".
It's not that we hate you (unless we do). It's just that we have nothing to offer you, and you have nothing to offer us. They don't have a finished product. They don't even have a product yet. There is nothing to see, and they say it as well. Post this on slashdot when there is something to see. Then they will be happy about the traffic and the press, but now it's just a link to a page that says that maybe, one day, there will be yet another linux distro that wants to make everything better and nicer than the current Big Players(tm).
Can we get a new build system as well? None of other ones are up to the task: Ubuntu/Debian's / Red Hat's / Gentoo's (oobvioously) / OpenEmbedded.
Don't piss off The Angry Economist
New linux distros are being made all the time, why does this distro deserve attention over any of those other new distros?
There are 11 types of people, those who know unary and those who don't.
And they want their headline back.
Um...how about...
"Jose Exherbo, you are a friend of mine..."
Well, okay, maybe not.
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Now really, why do they need to fork (yeah, yeah! They say it's not a fork) Gentoo? I think I just figured it out. It's so obvious:
Newer and faster processors are catching up with the Gentoo way of doing things. I can't describe what is the Gentoo way of doing things but I can somewhat describe what is not. A package completing its install, before a new release, is not the Gentoo way. So we clearly need a new distribution to show those new processors who is the boss and to keep the level of pain^W Gentoo Experience (TM) that we masochists^W Gentoo users enjoy.
Since I have already spent so much of my precious time enlightening the Slashdot population about this new distribution, I think I will go ahead and summarize parts of the announcement too. In particular the "Why the Need?" section. It's not that we think that Gentoo is bad.
Aspects we find particularly problematic include:
* Gentoo (packaging) sucks
* Gentoo (management) sucks
* Gentoo (developers) suck
* Gentoo (users) suck
* Gentoo (developers) suck
* Why Am I Here? What's the purpose? TFA is a comedy gold!
PS: All the best to the developers. Can't wait to try it out!
PPS: The PS was made in all sincerity and its spirit should not be confused with that of the rest of the post
Exherbo apparently means "to weed" in Latin...
Everything in the parent post is a lie.
In this age, anyone can wrap up packages together and come up with a distribution.
The big question is, What are the goals of the distribution, and What sets it apart from the thousands of other distros out there? Also, can the work in this distro be easily ported to other distros (If so, why not work on an already established distribution)?
Help! I'm a slashdot refugee.
Well, that's refreshing. Maybe the gang got some hints on PR from Stone Brewing Company.
Lacking <sarcasm> tags,
Binary packages that Just Work(tm)
Application packages that can be built from source and Just Work with the libraries that are installed (i.e. automatically "USE" what I have installed) instead of requiring me to install various databases and other random libraries for features I won't ever use.
Debian and many others get the first part right. Gentoo could have gotten the second part right without too much pain, but then they went and created an arcane variable to make things hard.
Bonus points if "exherbo-get upgrade" detects which source packages I've custom-built, and upgrades them with new custom-built source packages (optionally built in the background?), instead of ignoring updates (pinned in Debian), or overwriting them with whatever binary package (not pinned in Debian).
Judging by the posts here so far, if anything, you are in sync with the groupthink.
... is another distribution.
Usability? Is that some kind of stone-age buzzword?
So it's not going to use one of the big two package management systems (deb, rpm)? That's idiotic. So they've pretty much screwed themselves on it ever being adopted in most business applications. C'mon guys. Just use whatever is already out there and has withstood the test of time before reinventing the wheel. And yea..don't even get me started on a NEW init system...
...another post asking do we really need another Linux distro?
>>> Exherbo is a distribution designed for people who know what they're doing with Linux.
Are you so badass that gentoo is like ripping candy out of newb babie hands? Exherbo!
>>> Although it shares some code with Gentoo, and although many concepts are similar, and although many of the people involved were or are Gentoo developers, most Exherbo code is rewritten from scratch.
We know way more than those Gentoo tards will ever know.
>>> Exherbo is not, at the moment, a user-targeted distribution.
Come on... you want it, don't you? You want to be so badass to use my awesome distro, to be the most leetest person ever.
>>> It's not that we think that Gentoo is bad.
Gentoo is wretched for our godly needs.
>>> OK, I Want to Try Exherbo
I am high as a kite.
>>> Right now, all we care about is getting it into a fit state for a small number of developers.
We're announcing this publicly because we have no idea what product we're presenting, but we'll make it sound fucking awesome compared to everything else, plus way wore leetsauce, so we can get some actual developers to contribute something useful to make our project objectively good.
>>> The above paragraph does not apply if your pet project is something we find interesting.
Again, if you have anything that will make this distro more than a publicity stunt, for the love of god, please let us know.
>>> It's not that we hate you (unless we do).
Forgot how much better we are then you? You did? OK, in conclusion, fuck you.
Credit where credit's due: John Gruber and Mark Pilgrim
your opinion for many reasons.
1. If he and many others didn't try then I have a feeling Linux would be perceptually relegated to Hurd status or lower still.
2. Yeah, I'd like another window manager. I'd like four entirely new and different WM's.
3. I'd like iceweasel to run in console, so sure another version of iceweasel would be fabulous.
The more important question is what exactly is bad about so many choices? Do you understand the danger just a couple of operating system choices creates?
http://www.maxineudall.com/2010/02/should-economists-be-sued-for-malpractice.html
Because of this project, I'm developing a new Linux distro. It's based on Slackware, so I've decided to name it Slackerware. I've assembled a development team of folks I've talked to down at a few local college bars, and, as soon as everyone sobers up, we'll start working on it. However, be warned that this will likely take quite a while. We're thinking something may be ready by...well, we don't have a firm date yet because we haven't met to discuss it. Well, actually, we did meet, but we ended up playing NTN trivia instead. But as soon as we get off our lazy asses and do something, I promise you that Slackerware will be the coolest distro ever.
BTW, $3 pitchers at The Legacy tonight! Who's in?
From the website: "It's not that we hate you (unless we do). It's just that we have nothing to offer you, and you have nothing to offer us."
Ahh, that says it all. But than again, why even bother telling us about your secret elite project? Such a waste of time and energy, when you could easily change your gentoo-like build system (which is totally uncompatibile with gentoo for obvious reasons) several times.
M-x: sarcasm-mode-off
Do we need more of this elitistic bullshit?
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Exherbo is not, at the moment, a user-targeted distribution. It supports packages that the people involved find interesting or useful; it probably does not support your favourite desktop environment or applications. That kind of thing will come later there are plenty of other options for users who want a distribution that does everything badly rather than a few things well.
It's not that we think that Gentoo is bad. It's just that we think we can do something that suits our needs better. We've tried, without success, to do this using Gentoo. Unfortunately, Gentoo has serious shortcomings in several areas that stopped this from being a viable long-term approach (...) Portage. (...) Gentoo management. (...) QA. (...) The users. (...) Lack of overall design and direction.
Thank God there's much more to that distro you don't think is bad at all.
- OK, I Want to Try Exherbo.
- No you don't.
- Yes I Do
- OK, maybe you do, but we don't particularly want you to try it because we don't want to deal with you whining when you find that absolutely nothing works. (...) We don't provide packages for lots of things you consider critical. A lot of the packages we do provide don't work. A lot of the packages that worked five minutes ago all just broke because we just decided to redesign several large features. We don't provide support. We don't provide install media. We don't provide a usable init system.
- But I'm a Developer, and I Want to Try Exherbo
- Well, you know who to talk to if you need to be told where to find the shiny things. And no, we don't want to use Exherbo to implement your pet project. Especially not if it's a stupid pet project. Go and inflict it upon Gentoo, they think that porting ebuilds to run on SunOS 2 ksh under Cygwin is a great idea.
Wow! It sounds great! Do i need a secret decoder ring to read the sourcecode?
Seriously. I'm a Gentoo user and this sounded like a great thing to peek into - Gentoo is not without its share of things to fix/improve. But come on. What exactly are they announcing here? A distro tailored for a handful of users (which is nice) that we can't download, try or even ask about.
In Conclusion: It's not that we hate you (unless we do). It's just that we have nothing to offer you, and you have nothing to offer us.
Sounds like it's coming along great, eh? Do us a favor and make your work public when, you know, it is useable by the public. Or even watchable.
"The developers strongly discourage any serious use though as it's still highly experimental"
They said the same thing about democracy...
An IT & FOSS guy got his ego dented?!? Say it isn't so! That never happens!
FOSS people are the most altruistic and saintly people EVAAR! Why, they give their software away! They give their source away! They work for free much of the time! How dare you criticize these saints! They give us an option against Microsoft the EVIL that will run on Intell/PC products! They give us a way to save old and outdated computers that will go into a landfill!
How dare you insult those people!!
Just post some long message about what you don't like in current distros and how you can do better. Then give it a stupid name, tell people they shouldn't look at it, and tinker with the code for a few months.
Note: Whether it ever runs is an afterthought. Building a community is not even an afterthought.
Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone.-rms
Exherbo, for people who thought Gentoo wasn't rice enough.
every install disk comes with a free R-Type sticker* for the side of your case.
*notice: free R-Type sticker requires a stage 0 build, reguired packages include:
Pens
Paper
Markers
tape or similar adhesive
I'll start by saying that I'm an unashamed Gentoo fanboy, so mod as appropriate, but Mr. Østergaard seems to have forgotten to mention what he dislikes about Gentoo in either his blog entry or on exherbo.org. He says that Gentoo developers, users, Fanboys, and community are bad, but the most specific technical comment he made was a criticism that someone undertook "porting ebuilds to run on SunOS 2 ksh under Cygwin", which is apparently bad. He simply says of portage that it's "broken and unmaintainable", but he doesn't say why. He says Exherbo option handeling is "much improved" compared to Gentoo's USE flags, but again doesn't say what's wrong with USE flags. (I get around unintended consequences simply by enabling/disabling things on a package-by package basis, so if he's talking about that...).
I've been using gentoo quite happily for almost 3 years now on various servers as well as desktops for multiple users (no, I don't `emerge world` nightly), so I'm quite interested in what's wrong with portage (It's a godsend from my perspective) and the rest of gentoo. Seriously, I'd really like to know what's going to bite me in the arse here. But alas, Mr. Østergaard criticisms of Gentoo were far to vague and his design goals for Exherbo were equally vague and silly. Maybe he, or someone other than than the Trolls, other distro fanboys, and non-techy former Gentoo users who got burnt and should never have used it in the first place can please point me in the direction of some unbias and fair evaluations of Gentoo's strengths and weaknesses.
While some points made are valid (eg portage, along with most other package managers sucks, and Gentoo's management is inefficient) it seems like the distro is completely misguided.
If anything, we need to be focusing on user-friendly *nixes, not developer torture - less still something more hellish than Gentoo. If someone desperately wants a system like this, they can read LFS. Or strip down a Gentoo install. That way, they're also more likely to get something that's more suited to their needs. And isn't written by someone who looks like they'd happily eat n00b stew for lunch.
Those using pirated Tinysoft signatures(TM) are a real threat to society and should all be thrown in jail.
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another distro out of 1000s? come on guys... you can do better and pick 3-7 major ones and improve on those, not bs all over... i know the free mentality is ok, but common sense should be used first. and you guys wonder why linux does not do well on the desktop overall...
Congrats. You've just re-invented the wheel, with shiny hub caps.
It's pretty obvious...
* these developers are jaded 17yo ex-gentoo users, or equivalent.
* they really are more control freaks, than skilled linux engineers.
* this distro probably won't see the light of day, much less the darkness of a cvs repository.
* it just might be the geek-cred these guys have been looking for, but still have yet to deserve.
So anyways, back to reality. =)
the only permanence in existence, is the impermanence of existence.
"features a new packaging format" How many more package formats do we need? What does this one offer that the existing formats don't? Does it work better? Is it capable of handling existing formats? I could RTFA, but hey this is slashdot. We don't do that here.
It's quite simple, they are trying to discourage people who are not prepared for the instability of the project from coming anywhere near it, as they do not wish to support those sorts of people - and who can blame them. Sure, many people might interpret this as being a "badass" rebellious distro, but I don't believe that's how it's intended to be presented.
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Can you read the damn project website? FFS! You can apparently scan comments on Slashdot, but can't be arsed to read the source.
I realize that forking and fragmentation have advantages (more competition and all that), but man... sometimes I wonder just how far ahead of everything else Linux would be if everyone worked towards the same goals on the same projects.
Am I the only one struck by the irony of talking about how "apt" the name is of a new distribution featuring Yet Another Packaging System?
Read my blog.
..."if you have to ask how, you probably shouldn't be using this. Or a computer. Go back to your Xbox" distribution.
What's new about this? I already got a couple of those. And I've got them running, Thank you very much^h^h^h^hlittle.
feh. Wake me up when you got something that runs on my Mitac 6120N, ACPI bug and all.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
The name sounds like some horrible cardio vascular disease.
Damn these guys need some latte-sipping, hemp-wearing, mac-using marketing guys.
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YALD (Yet Another Linux Distribution) features:
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2. YAD desktop environment
3. YATK toolkit
Bonuses include Still No Drivers For Your Wireless Hardware & Good Luck With That Built In Sound Card.
YALD - just what you didn't know you didn't need!
Spoon not. Fork, or fork not. There is no spoon.
if former Gentoo developers are leaving Gentoo because Portage. The code is too broken and unmaintainable this does not sound as good publicity for Gentoo.
I would also like to announce a new Linux distribution, Knoppimandradorabuntu. It's completely original as the name would imply. Unfortunately it's so project-specific that only I can work on it. It's completely open source but I'm not sharing it with any of you. It's so cool and secret that I can't even post under my real name.
Brian was at one time on the Alpha devteam with Gentoo... I wonder if Alpha lovers everywhere will have a new distro to turn to.
And this is exactly what the hell is wrong with Linux. I've seen this so many times I lost count since 1995 when I started into Linux.
"Sure, there are a hundred wheels, but they are all wrong and I will create a better one from scratch!" - Which in actuality just creates a 101st wheel which is equally screwed up and half-finished.
"It doesn't work right, but we're 1337 so tough" - Very helpful for a fledgling project, I mean who wouldn't want to work on that?
"blah blah blah" - This project will in no way actually better anything but instead fragment and shift resources and people and time away from making what we do have the best it can be.
It is all a joke anymore. All of the delusions and self-propagation of hot air and unattainable idealism has done nothing. Linux was a stable OS that ran Apache damn good 13 years ago, and it still is but unfortunately little else meaningful has happened.
Sure, we have pretty baubles like the other guys except ours are harder to get working, use, and sometimes broken! Yay!
We can write with fire on our desktop and then drag wobbly windows around! Wow!
We have 4,000 apps installed by default and most of them are duplicates or unnecessary for 99% of users! How kewl!
Simple tasks are overly complex! But we are 1337 so that is kewl too!
Jesus Christ! Wake up people! Let's get a unified vision, build a stable and streamlined foundation of a set UI, default apps, and packaging system THEN let's work on taking over the world.
Apple has managed to do this in great speed with limited resources and time because they had a stationary target and hit it often, we have a moving target and we just make new targets rather than bother to knock a few down. FFS.
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Just what we need. Another distro. Yay.
Well by the looks of the website, At least we can expect a nice obnoxiously ugly green theme. (never let a programmer design a color scheme).
I think there should be hundreds of distros! That way everyone could just pick one they like and be as different from everyone else as they like! And then they could make them all use different means by which to update and install different stuff and make it where some stuff works only on some distros and not on others and some distros make you have to, I don't know, sort of "compile" the programs together by hand just to work! Ya! And then if some JERK OFF wanted to learn how YOU made it work you could just say RTFM Windows Fanboy! YA! And then, oh, wait...
He's over there.
SPLITTER!
Welcome to slashdot, where reading the article you comment on has been sadly optional since 1997.
"our current package format is somewhat similar in idea to Gentoos ebuilds but is completely incompatible due to the many technical differences."
I'm so exited that someone has finally stepped up and created one more custom Linux distribution. I think we were all feeling disempowered by the lack of choice afforded by the only 300 or so Linux distributions out there. Now that there are 301 mutually incompatible Linux distributions with their own directory layout, package management system, and configuration system, I finally feel like I have enough choices.
I'm glad that the authors didn't spend their time doing something worthless like writing new software that we don't already have, or improving an existing distribution. Instead, they did the smart thing and spent months making a Linux distribution, of which they can say (from the article) "Just don't expect anything to work (seriously!)."
Yay for new, incompatible, and broken Linux distributions written to satisfy some random guys questionable engineering sense!
Hip Hip Horay!
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"Another of the fine European Linux distributions, Exherbo Linux speaks to the casual user and developer alike and what it say is "Get Out", rather like a compiled version of the Amityville Horror. With packages that work as advertised primarily because they are advertised as not working, no install media, no support, and a declared lack of interest in supporting such features as "Usability", Exherbo takes truth in advertising to previously unseen, and indeed unsought for levels.
If you have found Slackware Linux to be far too overrun with friendly advice for the new user, and Linux in general to be degraded by a desire for it to do useful work for people, then Exherbo Linux is almost certainly the distribution for you."
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oh boy, YALD.... Just what the world needs.
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They're barking out real loud for a newbie in their site. Let's hear them silently howling tail between legs after they see how real life is.
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It isn't a distro yet, although it isn't that anyone got their ego dented, remember it's for Gentoo users and their egos are unassailable. Now that word has got out that someone actually got a fully functioning installation of Gentoo and kept it working for six months, these guys had to create a distro which doesn't work at all and announce it with a site that tells everyone to go away.
They aren't setting out to reinvent the wheel as such, just taking strategic measures to maintain their 1337ness.
I don't therefore I'm not.
I can't wait to play Duke Nukem Forever, on a HURD kernel, on Exherbo
Why the hell is this news? a new distro comes out every few seconds.
SLOW FUCKING NEWS DAY
"Some men just want to watch the world burn..."
I thought the project looked interesting and spent a few mins in the irc chan. It was just as unfriendly as the web page.
Ok, so this is yet another gentoo-inspired distro. What would be really nice, is, if a packaging system came out that would allow non-root users to build stuff in the gentoo style. I mean, with dependency checking/automatic downloading, etc. Just give it a value for the prefix variable, and let it configure and build everything you wish. Ok, I know that gentoo has tools for doing such things, but they are not so user-friendly, nor do I think that they really fully support this mode of operation.
If Pandora's box is destined to be opened, *I* want to be the one to open it.
I'm pretty excited about this. I've used Gentoo for nearly 5 years now. It's served my purposes well, but 5 years is a long time, and if these guys are not dealing with legacy stuff, then I hope they can improve. Great luck to them!
"cease to exist, giving my goodbye, drive my car into the ocean, you think I'm dead, but i sail away, on a wave of mu
Haleluja, praise be, be Healed! The second Exodus is here. Exherbo will lead themselves to the promised land.
And we Gentoo-ers can finally breathe a breath of fresh air. Finally the ex-Gentoo developers Poisonous People Clan have decided to do their own damned thing and leave Gentoo, leave Gentoo alone.
I wish Exherbo the best of luck. Good fucking riddance.
1) Ciaran did get kicked as a Gentoo-dev *TWICE*
first time around he was let back in after alot of whining and some technicalities. But he didn't learn how to play with others and was kicked a 2nd time (later on his ability to not play with others got him banned from forums.gentoo.org)
2) Paludis when build:
USE="-portage" emerge paludis
AND then used against the kde4 live Overlay (which for some stupid reason relies on "paludis only feature" - de-paludisification of said ebuilds have shown that it wasn't actually needed to be done like this)
IF the user then goes and uses portage and emerge, emerge will go and install part of KDE it thinks is missing simply because paludis in USE="-portage" mangle the world file so portage doesn't know what is install
Result? KDE FUBAR'ed pain to recover which many have just gone Fsck it, re-install
plus a few other cases
3) others that are part of "Paludis" and "Exherbo"
spb, rbrown, Philantrop..
Oh look those 3 just got kicked from being gentoo dev's because of their inability to work with others as well as irc-M.A.D. incedence.
So while the OP might of been stretching tnings a bit, all that was actually stated was fact. 100% more fact then your
"Everything in the parent post is a lie."
which is 100% wrong
It is pretty funny how you take a new Linux "distro" that doesn't work, has no way to install it, and posts its announcements on LIVEJOURNAL, and somehow that's front page-worthy.
/. reported on Songbird 0.1. And yeah, a year (or two) later, still no stable Songbird.
Curious. My friend Jon made the same comment when
Please stop stalking me, bro.
From the "Planet" page http://planet.exherbo.org/ on the website:
... ?
First of all, Exherbo was announced because some elements of it will be discussed at an upcoming conference. Rather than having a blank page and let people start various rumors it seemed wise to at least let people know what was going on.
-and-
Unfortunately Slashdot picked up the announcement because some tard decided it would be a great idea to submit it to them. We did not do that ourselves because, as we state on the website, we have no need for users at the moment and exherbo won't fulfill users demands for the foreseeable future.
So, you've all had lots of fun, criticising people who were quietly going about having their fun. And your point was
Don't blame me, it's usually 2 in the morning when I post
Go drown in your own shit, Naib, you worthless, lying, ignorant worm. You are wrong in every conceivable way.
More likely the official distro of "Troll Suckers Unlimited". ... or maybe Micro$oft trying to break /. !
Even normally sensible people don't seem to have read beyond the article and home page of the website.
But I can't help wondering if this isn't a viral marketing campaign
into the Linux market with it's very own "FOSS Vaporware".
One way or another, it got the attention of
Don't blame me, it's usually 2 in the morning when I post
Sabayon. That's gotta' be one of the worst mashups of a Gentoo-based Linux distro I've ever seen. I know Sabayon was supposed to be a gaming-oriented distro, but did they have to uglify it and bloat it the way they did?