Correct. For those of you without knowledge of what he's talking about: Windows can't run with just TCP/IP. TCP/IP is a bolt-on to the original Microsoft SMB/NETBIOS networking. IOW, if you need network connectivity, there is no such thing as a Microsoft Windows client or server that does NOT run SMB and NETBIOS. This is true even on Vista and Server 2008.
It would be like if, on Linux, in order to get TCP/IP running you had to install Samba and TCP/IP was a bolt-on to Samba. How lame would that be?
Microsoft never implemented Winsock 1.0. The first winsock implementations were from third parties, i.e., Trumpet Winsock. They got to the game late, that's why they ended up basing IE on Spyglass Mosaic -- poorly -- instead of rolling their own browser. Go into IE and do a Help | About. You'll find the following verbiage:
Based on NCSA Mosaic. NCSA Mosaic(TM); was developed at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Distributed under a licensing agreement with Spyglass, Inc.
Microsoft: "Ohhhhh....you wanted it work with the Intel SATA controller in your laptop? You'll need to spend another $50 to get the Driver Pack (tm)!" You: *!~*&()~!~!
You just hit on one of the biggest points of why I keep saying that Microsoft is going down. Microsoft never counted on netbooks, just like they never counted on the Internet.
No. You can also include the source along with the binaries on a 'medium customarily used for software interchange'. It has been commonly interpreted that this wording is meant to include a link to a public ftp or www site. The 'written offer for source code' is optional. Cisco could just as easily have either A) add links to the source on the CD-ROM setup thingy they distribute with the each Linksys router or B) just put the source right on the CD-ROM setup thingie. It's not like their setup code takes 650MB. Sheesh.
considering how convoluted the licensing is when using linux, there is probably some GPLv1 code still in there somewhere.
There is no GPLv1 code in the Linux kernel. The kernel has been GPL v2 pretty much since the beginning. If you mean 'sitting in userland', AFAIK there no GPL v1 code in any modern Linux distro.
Once a business has released anything GPL, they are required to support it forever.
Incorrect. They can discontinue support at any time.
Not that I think they'll be able to make software that magically tells them if a computer was involved in illegal activity -- but the majority of computer criminals are dumb as bricks and could probably be caught by doing a full-disk grep for files containing more than a couple of strings that look like credit card numbers.
No. Bricks are smarter. I'm pretty sure bricks have heard of encryption.
Oh, come on now! *throws chair* Stop ruining my minions^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hteam's astroturfing with your 'facts' and 'logic'! *throws another chair* I'm gonna fscking KILL that Anonymous Coward guy!!
Here is a situation i had using a lenovo T61. I got it it found the Wireless card all well and good and worked fine at home using WPA2 Personal However it didn't work at Work with WPA2 Enterprise. Being replaced with a T60 it worked just out of the box. Windows for both the systems WPA2 enterprise and Personal worked just perfectly. Just because it works for you it doesn't mean that other people have the same situation. Windows does handle supporting Wi Fi better.
Point taken on the last paragraph in your post. I can't say I've never had upgrade troubles, but I tend to not run with an out-of-the-box configuration.;)
Scribus and GIMP/Seperate+ both support ICC via LCMS for color space profiles. There are tools for GIMP to make PDF X/3s and Scribus supports this out of the box anyway.
I've played with Krita, but the last time I did it was pretty unstable and crashed a lot. Maybe they've improved it since then. Inkscape has an advantage in that it was already based on a pretty mature package, sodipodi.
* getting video running has been HELL : with only 1 out of 3 I managed to get the nvidia blob to run after reading days and days of forums, trying out every single trick they propose. The two others still run in 'software' mode, which is fine for firefox/thunderbird or GCompris (more or less), but has cost me several days trying anyway.
Getting 3D video working properly on Windows 2000, XP or Vista is no better. Go cruise the gamer forums and you'll see what I mean. That being said, I use nVidia cards exclusively and every release of Ubuntu since 6.06 has worked for me out of the box, automagically (after allowing restricted drivers) with no problem.
* wifi wasn't always (properlty) recognized : pcmcia went mostly fine, usb was hell. Finally got it working via ndiswrapper
Wifi works on my two Dell notebooks out of the box on 8.10. USB wifi sucks and should be avoided at all costs. Even if you get it working with ndiswrapper, it's slower than PCMCIA or built-in Wifi. The last bit is true even on Windows.
* each time there is an upGRade something breaks and I'm back in the 'problem-chasing' game =(
The rugged individualists all left Slackware and went to Gentoo. After the fighting got out of hand, those that didn't move off to one of the Gentoo forks went to one of the BSDs.
The rest of us got sick of spending most of our waiting for our system software and applications to compile and moved Debian. Some of us got sick of Debian's lack of polish and went to Ubuntu. Probably a few went back to Slackware.
In the meantime, predictably so, a bunch of n00bs started using Ubuntu mostly because we told them it was a good idea. Now the Ubuntu forums are filled with n00b posts flaming the world because 'Ubuntu sucks' and 'it ate my computer', etc.
Personally, I'm getting sick of the whole mess. Slackware is looking cooler by the minute...;)
As others pointed out to you, what Pixar and other movie studios do with Linux is CGI, not graphic design or DTP. Those are completely different and unrelated concepts.
Additionally, I'd like to point out that while you can certainly do professional graphic design on Linux these days (I do, personally. Surprise! I don't even own a Mac!), there isn't much depth in terms of software choice, and the software that does work is still immature.
You have two good illustration programs -- Inkscape and Xara. Inkscape isn't too bad and it's gotten lots better, but is still missing key features like automatic drop shadows. Xara is okayish, but uses a non-standard file format, is limited in some ways and is pretty unstable.
You have one good photo editing application -- the GIMP. And it lacks a lot of Photoshops really slick 3rd party plugins and the ability to modify photos in CMYK mode. -- But note that it does do CMYK seps, which is really all you need.
There's only one good DTP layout package, and that's Scribus. Scribus is still lacking in some areas compared to major closed-source apps like QuarkXPress and PageMaker -- mostly in the prepress area. It's also less stable than I would like. It does output to PDF, which is good enough for many service bureaus, however.
Now let's compare with the Mac: You have industry standards like Adobe Illustrator and Macromedia Freehand on the illustration front. Plus, you can run Inkscape on OS X. You have Photoshop, you have QuarkXpress, you have PageMaker. And you have Scribus and GIMP.
And that just touches the surface. There are so many more applications on the Mac. Plus, Macintosh fonts tend to be rather better than their Windows/Linux equivalents -- the font designers pay much more attention to kerning details and such on the Mac than they do on Windows for some reason.
After having said all that....I don't own a Mac, though I have used one in the course of my professional graphic design work. I use Linux because I prefer the concepts free and open source software over closed-source, proprietary stuff ripe with vendor lock-in, etc.
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Maybe you should fix whatever is wrong with yours
Probably because the last guy who tried in earnest to do just that got shot.
Correct. For those of you without knowledge of what he's talking about: Windows can't run with just TCP/IP. TCP/IP is a bolt-on to the original Microsoft SMB/NETBIOS networking. IOW, if you need network connectivity, there is no such thing as a Microsoft Windows client or server that does NOT run SMB and NETBIOS. This is true even on Vista and Server 2008.
It would be like if, on Linux, in order to get TCP/IP running you had to install Samba and TCP/IP was a bolt-on to Samba. How lame would that be?
Microsoft never implemented Winsock 1.0. The first winsock implementations were from third parties, i.e., Trumpet Winsock. They got to the game late, that's why they ended up basing IE on Spyglass Mosaic -- poorly -- instead of rolling their own browser. Go into IE and do a Help | About. You'll find the following verbiage:
Based on NCSA Mosaic. NCSA Mosaic(TM); was developed at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Distributed under a licensing agreement with Spyglass, Inc.
No. Vista Performance != XP Performance. Vista Performance < XP Performance. Just ask Tom's Hardware.
Microsoft: "Ohhhhh....you wanted it work with the Intel SATA controller in your laptop? You'll need to spend another $50 to get the Driver Pack (tm)!"
You: *!~*&()~!~!
You just hit on one of the biggest points of why I keep saying that Microsoft is going down. Microsoft never counted on netbooks, just like they never counted on the Internet.
First rule of data security: assume nothing.
Bingo. Lots of poeple have open source software sitting on their FTP servers that they never plan to support ...
Dammit! So that's why my Internet access has been so slow lately! Does anyone know how to configure WPA2 personal?
Speakeasy provides me with naked DSL.
See what I mean? The Internet is for porn!
GPLv2 requires physical media if requested.
No. You can also include the source along with the binaries on a 'medium customarily used for software interchange'. It has been commonly interpreted that this wording is meant to include a link to a public ftp or www site. The 'written offer for source code' is optional. Cisco could just as easily have either A) add links to the source on the CD-ROM setup thingy they distribute with the each Linksys router or B) just put the source right on the CD-ROM setup thingie. It's not like their setup code takes 650MB. Sheesh.
considering how convoluted the licensing is when using linux, there is probably some GPLv1 code still in there somewhere.
There is no GPLv1 code in the Linux kernel. The kernel has been GPL v2 pretty much since the beginning. If you mean 'sitting in userland', AFAIK there no GPL v1 code in any modern Linux distro.
Once a business has released anything GPL, they are required to support it forever.
Incorrect. They can discontinue support at any time.
The Year of Linux on the Database? Nah, that happened a long time ago.
Me too. But I thought 'Wow, that'd be great! Maybe there would be fewer stupid posts on Slashdot!"
Not that I think they'll be able to make software that magically tells them if a computer was involved in illegal activity -- but the majority of computer criminals are dumb as bricks and could probably be caught by doing a full-disk grep for files containing more than a couple of strings that look like credit card numbers.
No. Bricks are smarter. I'm pretty sure bricks have heard of encryption.
Oh, come on now! *throws chair* Stop ruining my minions^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hteam's astroturfing with your 'facts' and 'logic'! *throws another chair* I'm gonna fscking KILL that Anonymous Coward guy!!
-- Steve B.
Normally most of these posts are from people trying to tweak their system for max performance, upgrade to new driver.
No. First hit on Google for 'nvidia geforce 8800 windows hang'. Do I need to keep searching?
Here is a situation i had using a lenovo T61. I got it it found the Wireless card all well and good and worked fine at home using WPA2 Personal However it didn't work at Work with WPA2 Enterprise. Being replaced with a T60 it worked just out of the box. Windows for both the systems WPA2 enterprise and Personal worked just perfectly. Just because it works for you it doesn't mean that other people have the same situation. Windows does handle supporting Wi Fi better.
I suggest checking out this post I saw on the Ubuntu list a couple of months back. Maybe it'll help, maybe it won't, but check it out.
Point taken on the last paragraph in your post. I can't say I've never had upgrade troubles, but I tend to not run with an out-of-the-box configuration. ;)
Ever consider that may all the 'works for me' comments exist because it's true?
Scribus and GIMP/Seperate+ both support ICC via LCMS for color space profiles. There are tools for GIMP to make PDF X/3s and Scribus supports this out of the box anyway.
I've played with Krita, but the last time I did it was pretty unstable and crashed a lot. Maybe they've improved it since then. Inkscape has an advantage in that it was already based on a pretty mature package, sodipodi.
Amanda has support for 'virtual tapes' -- files that hold your backups. You can then burn these virtual tapes to DVD or BD later.
Perhaps I've exaggerated a bit -- it's probably not as a bad as I'm making it seem -- but it's still pretty bad.
* getting video running has been HELL : with only 1 out of 3 I managed to get the nvidia blob to run after reading days and days of forums, trying out every single trick they propose. The two others still run in 'software' mode, which is fine for firefox/thunderbird or GCompris (more or less), but has cost me several days trying anyway.
Getting 3D video working properly on Windows 2000, XP or Vista is no better. Go cruise the gamer forums and you'll see what I mean. That being said, I use nVidia cards exclusively and every release of Ubuntu since 6.06 has worked for me out of the box, automagically (after allowing restricted drivers) with no problem.
* wifi wasn't always (properlty) recognized : pcmcia went mostly fine, usb was hell. Finally got it working via ndiswrapper
Wifi works on my two Dell notebooks out of the box on 8.10. USB wifi sucks and should be avoided at all costs. Even if you get it working with ndiswrapper, it's slower than PCMCIA or built-in Wifi. The last bit is true even on Windows.
* each time there is an upGRade something breaks and I'm back in the 'problem-chasing' game =(
Upgrading is a choice, not a requirement.
The rugged individualists all left Slackware and went to Gentoo. After the fighting got out of hand, those that didn't move off to one of the Gentoo forks went to one of the BSDs.
The rest of us got sick of spending most of our waiting for our system software and applications to compile and moved Debian. Some of us got sick of Debian's lack of polish and went to Ubuntu. Probably a few went back to Slackware.
In the meantime, predictably so, a bunch of n00bs started using Ubuntu mostly because we told them it was a good idea. Now the Ubuntu forums are filled with n00b posts flaming the world because 'Ubuntu sucks' and 'it ate my computer', etc.
Personally, I'm getting sick of the whole mess. Slackware is looking cooler by the minute... ;)
I'm sure both of you still using Slackware will be very pleased! ;)
As others pointed out to you, what Pixar and other movie studios do with Linux is CGI, not graphic design or DTP. Those are completely different and unrelated concepts.
Additionally, I'd like to point out that while you can certainly do professional graphic design on Linux these days (I do, personally. Surprise! I don't even own a Mac!), there isn't much depth in terms of software choice, and the software that does work is still immature.
You have two good illustration programs -- Inkscape and Xara. Inkscape isn't too bad and it's gotten lots better, but is still missing key features like automatic drop shadows. Xara is okayish, but uses a non-standard file format, is limited in some ways and is pretty unstable.
You have one good photo editing application -- the GIMP. And it lacks a lot of Photoshops really slick 3rd party plugins and the ability to modify photos in CMYK mode. -- But note that it does do CMYK seps, which is really all you need.
There's only one good DTP layout package, and that's Scribus. Scribus is still lacking in some areas compared to major closed-source apps like QuarkXPress and PageMaker -- mostly in the prepress area. It's also less stable than I would like. It does output to PDF, which is good enough for many service bureaus, however.
Now let's compare with the Mac: You have industry standards like Adobe Illustrator and Macromedia Freehand on the illustration front. Plus, you can run Inkscape on OS X. You have Photoshop, you have QuarkXpress, you have PageMaker. And you have Scribus and GIMP.
And that just touches the surface. There are so many more applications on the Mac. Plus, Macintosh fonts tend to be rather better than their Windows/Linux equivalents -- the font designers pay much more attention to kerning details and such on the Mac than they do on Windows for some reason.
After having said all that....I don't own a Mac, though I have used one in the course of my professional graphic design work. I use Linux because I prefer the concepts free and open source software over closed-source, proprietary stuff ripe with vendor lock-in, etc.