The only thing that can harm Free software or any other Free (as in freedom) trend is repression.
So, whatever happens between non free companies is irrelevant to the free trends...
And I say this not only for free software but for whatever is free...
Imagine a great book (as in free of speech) which is free (LINUX) and another book which is not free (OSX), suddenly the pubblisher change the cover material to another more broadly used... so, people may find that book more interesting, durable, etc... but that wont hurt the the free book.
Interesting link, but I really hate when the pages render with a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong line and you have to scroll all the way to read one paragraph... maybe it is Fx fault... let me see. . . . .
Mmm nope, IE also renders it that way.. I really hate it, is there any extension in Fx to make pages wordwrap ??
Well, although you are an AC and I am affraid you wont reply I really would like to know what is that "feed the scousers" and where does it come from?
I live on Liverpool now, and I have found very anoying their accent as you said, in fact as my mother tongue is other than english, when I arrived I was really frustrated because I could not understand what they said (and I thought WTF I was supposed to understand english... at least a bit).
But anyway, I think that "feed the scousers" is some kind of bad thing for them but if someone knows where does it come from I would love to know..
Yeah, I consider it would be at least bad... the ones who would pay the taxes are going to be the actual artists/inventors or the consumer and [as usual] the big bad companies wont care...
You just have to wait. All the inventions from Bell labs and other companies on the previous years have been "technology" inventions by "technology" research companies.
Google is an "information" company, you have heard it somewhere else, we are in the "information" age... the one who controls the information controls power, google is making it easy to "control" (i.e. it it not enough to have it, if you can not really use/handle it).
So, in these years, Google's technology will come with something really outstanding.
As an example, I would like to dream a bit. Imagine (just imagine) that all the knowledge to make teletransportation is already available, but by different people in different places. If someone at Google would like to start a "teleportation" project, they have ALL (or most of the) available information, they have the TOOLS to access that [and only the] relevant information and as the classification technologies (sorting, filtering, pattern recognition) improve, they will have more power.
The thing is, nowadays we [human kind] have gatered so much knowledge[information] but, it is quite difficult to use it (as in, it is not easy for 1 person to make an outstanding invention by himself), so it is better to be able to access all that information in a coherent way.
That is what Google is promising, a way to access all that information in a good way.
So, no, Google indeed hasn't done any of those great physical inventions Bell has done, but they are doing something BIGGER (from my POV). They are not making a new technology, they are making tools so we [human kind] can create new technology.
I agree with you. Sadly, we are focusing in how can we do the things we have been doing "better" and not how to do "new" things.
Maybe only medical reserach is trying to get new medications for new diseases (e.g cancer, alzheimer, etc), alhtough the mainstream of research is focused on 'better' cures for the currently 'curable' diseases...
I mean, that is not completely bad but, we have been focusing in the 'comercial' and proffitable point of view of things... and that is sad because no body will want to fund new and outstanding research.
And where exactly do you expect people to put a keyboard while they are playing in the living room?
I usually sit on my coach and do not like to be sitting like a secretary (the same way I am in my computer) while playing... nope I want to be the way I am while watching TV
I stopped using CD-R a long time ago, CD-RW are not that expensive now and I use them to write Linux ISO's, applications I find useful etc.
That way, I wave one CD named KNOPPIX, and I always have it with the last release, also with Mandrake (well, I had to erease that and write Mandriva now...) and FreeBSD (those are the 3 distros I use).
And for the apps I used to burn CD's with the apps (Win) I liked but after I installed my PC those versions where outtadet and I had to search and download them again (of course with broadband that is easy). So I also burn an Apps CD-RW and when I find a new version is out (with REAL changes of course) I download it and burn it.
So the challenge for controllers isn't just getting something that gives you the control of a keyboard and mouse, but also designing something that can be used while sitting on a couch.
Yep, here I am thinking of a gamepad which has instead (or in addition) of arrow buttons a trackball. I remember the Nes Advantage didnt have the arrow buttons but a different pad (although it was not a trackball).
If by "take over" you mean "have more players", you're way too late. Console gaming already has overtaken PC gaming in terms of the # of gamers. It did a long time ago:-)
It would be interesting to see if it was that way in the first way. You see, when the console games started appearing (for example int the Atari, coleco vision etc. years) I think there where quite a lot of Console player gamers... then, computers started to gain acceptance in the home market, and as they started gaining power people started playing on them.
I remember started playing Dangerous Dave in my PC and prince of persia, those where one of my first played games (along with TDCGA.EXE test drive). But long before those times, I had played and owned a lot of Atari games (I remember Sea Quest, Pong, Porky's adventure, and some others).
So, I think no, PC's where the ones that got users from the Console's market (or maybe they looked for other people who didnt owned/wanted a console).
And, as I stated before they are some games that are not meant for console gaming (RTS, Sims, etc.)
RTS Well, lets make them 3 words... have you ever [tried to] played Command & Conquer in a console, IT SUCKS... i can play a FPS or another kind of games in consoles but Realtime strategy games or sim games (sim city, the sims etc) are a no no for consoles... until they make a trackball like controls.
Bueno, me gustaria que tu pudieras hablar algun otro idioma ademas del Ingles...
eso me recuerda un chiste que lei hace tiempo aqui:
Q: What do you call a person who speaks more than two languages? A: Polyglot Q: And, what do you call a person who speaks only one language? A: American.
Well yes... they are also teenage boys going out of these pubs and all that but... To be honest with you, I pay much (MUCH, MUCH) more attention to the girls (specially when they took their 'some' cltohes off =oP
"Many other Latin American governments are of course keenly aware of the cost benefits of free software. In some countries, such as in Peru and Argentina, they have tried passing special procurement laws to more rapidly increase the adoption of free software in government. In Venezuela, the use of free software in public administration is now supported directly by President Hugo Chavez."
Well, at least your trollish flamebait has something truthful, Europe is not High and Mighty...
Unfortunatley I got very disappointed after arriving UK from Mexico. UK is always presented as very "excellent modals, always fine, polite, intelligent" people (at least that is what back there they make us believe).
But after living here 8 months man, I can tell you it is the opposite... EVERY (and I mean every) night teenage girls go out to bars and they end so drunk walking on the streets without shoes, some without some clothes (not that they go out with much clothes) and shouting... I can tell you I have seen more civilized behaviour on many third world countries...
And also the general consence is that they are dumb (sorry for the Britons here). I know, generalize is bad... but I am just telling what I have heard so far here and they are comments from people of all over the world (Spain, Brazil, US, Netherlands, Australia... etc).
All this thread is kind of sensless, Javascript is as C,C++, Pascal, Java, etc a LANGUAGE, if the compiler/interpreter implementation is bad it is not the language fault, so if Javascript scripts get bloated in Fx it is because Firefox implementation of the JS interpreter is bad.
It is like... saying that C programs are broken because they make core dumps...
You did not unterstand Macromedia Flash was NOT running all that time, I just went into that page [with the flash movie] after I returned to my computer, and no, usualy the movie does not make Fx behave like that (i.e. when you open Fx and go directly to the page...)
I agree with you, I can not leave my computer with FireFox running for long time.
Just yesterday I left my notebook turned on with firefox opened.
After I returned 8 hours later I didnt payed attention and entered to some page with a flash game. Then I noticed my computer was very very slow, I pressed the ctrl-shft-esc to show the sysinternals proc. explorer and firefox was eating 99% of my CPU time and like 216 MB of memory (private bytes, the Virutal size was like in 300+MB).
So if that happens when Fx is doing 'nothing' something is wrong in it.
Slashdot Mirror
No, it is called ClamWin
The only thing that can harm Free software or any other Free (as in freedom) trend is repression.
So, whatever happens between non free companies is irrelevant to the free trends...
And I say this not only for free software but for whatever is free...
Imagine a great book (as in free of speech) which is free (LINUX) and another book which is not free (OSX), suddenly the pubblisher change the cover material to another more broadly used... so, people may find that book more interesting, durable, etc... but that wont hurt the the free book.
No?
Interesting link, but I really hate when the pages render with a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong line and you have to scroll all the way to read one paragraph... maybe it is Fx fault... let me see.
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Mmm nope, IE also renders it that way.. I really hate it, is there any extension in Fx to make pages wordwrap ??
Well, although you are an AC and I am affraid you wont reply I really would like to know what is that "feed the scousers" and where does it come from?
I live on Liverpool now, and I have found very anoying their accent as you said, in fact as my mother tongue is other than english, when I arrived I was really frustrated because I could not understand what they said (and I thought WTF I was supposed to understand english... at least a bit).
But anyway, I think that "feed the scousers" is some kind of bad thing for them but if someone knows where does it come from I would love to know..
Hehehe, sorry, Scouse is the name they give to the people that live in Liverpool (the place where the Beatles born.
But no, it seems you are not. You must be a big Beatles fan then =o)
Cheers.
Are you Scouse by any chance?
Yeah, I consider it would be at least bad... the ones who would pay the taxes are going to be the actual artists/inventors or the consumer and [as usual] the big bad companies wont care...
Well, maybe a bit OT but, did you know that StrawBerry fields was closed a short time ago?
You can see the note here
I find that kind of sad, not because of the beatles song but because it was the home for children without families
You just have to wait. All the inventions from Bell labs and other companies on the previous years have been "technology" inventions by "technology" research companies.
Google is an "information" company, you have heard it somewhere else, we are in the "information" age... the one who controls the information controls power, google is making it easy to "control" (i.e. it it not enough to have it, if you can not really use/handle it).
So, in these years, Google's technology will come with something really outstanding.
As an example, I would like to dream a bit. Imagine (just imagine) that all the knowledge to make teletransportation is already available, but by different people in different places. If someone at Google would like to start a "teleportation" project, they have ALL (or most of the) available information, they have the TOOLS to access that [and only the] relevant information and as the classification technologies (sorting, filtering, pattern recognition) improve, they will have more power.
The thing is, nowadays we [human kind] have gatered so much knowledge[information] but, it is quite difficult to use it (as in, it is not easy for 1 person to make an outstanding invention by himself), so it is better to be able to access all that information in a coherent way.
That is what Google is promising, a way to access all that information in a good way.
So, no, Google indeed hasn't done any of those great physical inventions Bell has done, but they are doing something BIGGER (from my POV). They are not making a new technology, they are making tools so we [human kind] can create new technology.
I agree with you. Sadly, we are focusing in how can we do the things we have been doing "better" and not how to do "new" things.
Maybe only medical reserach is trying to get new medications for new diseases (e.g cancer, alzheimer, etc), alhtough the mainstream of research is focused on 'better' cures for the currently 'curable' diseases...
I mean, that is not completely bad but, we have been focusing in the 'comercial' and proffitable point of view of things... and that is sad because no body will want to fund new and outstanding research.
Do you think so Mr. Fidel Castro?
So they where using the thousand moonkeys approach uh?
And where exactly do you expect people to put a keyboard while they are playing in the living room?
I usually sit on my coach and do not like to be sitting like a secretary (the same way I am in my computer) while playing... nope I want to be the way I am while watching TV
Easy answer... CD-RW
I stopped using CD-R a long time ago, CD-RW are not that expensive now and I use them to write Linux ISO's, applications I find useful etc.
That way, I wave one CD named KNOPPIX, and I always have it with the last release, also with Mandrake (well, I had to erease that and write Mandriva now...) and FreeBSD (those are the 3 distros I use).
And for the apps I used to burn CD's with the apps (Win) I liked but after I installed my PC those versions where outtadet and I had to search and download them again (of course with broadband that is easy). So I also burn an Apps CD-RW and when I find a new version is out (with REAL changes of course) I download it and burn it.
So the challenge for controllers isn't just getting something that gives you the control of a keyboard and mouse, but also designing something that can be used while sitting on a couch.
Yep, here I am thinking of a gamepad which has instead (or in addition) of arrow buttons a trackball. I remember the Nes Advantage didnt have the arrow buttons but a different pad (although it was not a trackball).
If by "take over" you mean "have more players", you're way too late. Console gaming already has overtaken PC gaming in terms of the # of gamers. It did a long time ago :-)
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It would be interesting to see if it was that way in the first way. You see, when the console games started appearing (for example int the Atari, coleco vision etc. years) I think there where quite a lot of Console player gamers... then, computers started to gain acceptance in the home market, and as they started gaining power people started playing on them.
I remember started playing Dangerous Dave in my PC and prince of persia, those where one of my first played games (along with TDCGA.EXE test drive). But long before those times, I had played and owned a lot of Atari games (I remember Sea Quest, Pong, Porky's adventure, and some others).
So, I think no, PC's where the ones that got users from the Console's market (or maybe they looked for other people who didnt owned/wanted a console)
And, as I stated before they are some games that are not meant for console gaming (RTS, Sims, etc.)
RTS
Well, lets make them 3 words... have you ever [tried to] played Command & Conquer in a console, IT SUCKS... i can play a FPS or another kind of games in consoles but Realtime strategy games or sim games (sim city, the sims etc) are a no no for consoles... until they make a trackball like controls.
Bueno, me gustaria que tu pudieras hablar algun otro idioma ademas del Ingles...
eso me recuerda un chiste que lei hace tiempo aqui:
Q: What do you call a person who speaks more than two languages?
A: Polyglot
Q: And, what do you call a person who speaks only one language?
A: American.
Well yes... they are also teenage boys going out of these pubs and all that but... To be honest with you, I pay much (MUCH, MUCH) more attention to the girls (specially when they took their 'some' cltohes off =oP
Brazil, Peru (Special Bill 1609, )...
"Many other Latin American governments are of course keenly aware of the cost benefits of free software. In some countries, such as in Peru and Argentina, they have tried passing special procurement laws to more rapidly increase the adoption of free software in government. In Venezuela, the use of free software in public administration is now supported directly by President Hugo Chavez."
From here
Well, at least your trollish flamebait has something truthful, Europe is not High and Mighty...
... I can tell you I have seen more civilized behaviour on many third world countries...
Unfortunatley I got very disappointed after arriving UK from Mexico. UK is always presented as very "excellent modals, always fine, polite, intelligent" people (at least that is what back there they make us believe).
But after living here 8 months man, I can tell you it is the opposite... EVERY (and I mean every) night teenage girls go out to bars and they end so drunk walking on the streets without shoes, some without some clothes (not that they go out with much clothes) and shouting
And also the general consence is that they are dumb (sorry for the Britons here). I know, generalize is bad... but I am just telling what I have heard so far here and they are comments from people of all over the world (Spain, Brazil, US, Netherlands, Australia... etc).
All this thread is kind of sensless, Javascript is as C,C++, Pascal, Java, etc a LANGUAGE, if the compiler/interpreter implementation is bad it is not the language fault, so if Javascript scripts get bloated in Fx it is because Firefox implementation of the JS interpreter is bad.
It is like... saying that C programs are broken because they make core dumps...
You did not unterstand Macromedia Flash was NOT running all that time, I just went into that page [with the flash movie] after I returned to my computer, and no, usualy the movie does not make Fx behave like that (i.e. when you open Fx and go directly to the page...)
In Old Soviet Korea only IE Leaks Mem... mmm forget it
I agree with you, I can not leave my computer with FireFox running for long time.
Just yesterday I left my notebook turned on with firefox opened.
After I returned 8 hours later I didnt payed attention and entered to some page with a flash game. Then I noticed my computer was very very slow, I pressed the ctrl-shft-esc to show the sysinternals proc. explorer and firefox was eating 99% of my CPU time and like 216 MB of memory (private bytes, the Virutal size was like in 300+MB).
So if that happens when Fx is doing 'nothing' something is wrong in it.