Back then, the 'official' word was that Lucas had sketched out and planned 12 episodes, and the first three to be released were 4, 5 & 6. So now they've also done 1, 2 & 3. I'm betting his notes for the remaining 6 will get made eventually, perhaps over another 30 years. Wouldn't that be something? A 60-year span to tell a truly epic story. I won't be around in 30 years (probably), but it sure would/will be cool to see all 12, in sequence. Imagine the special effects, from the then cutting edge FX of 1976 to the state of the art in 2036.
What sort of media will they be on? Surely they'll all be on one piece/device/thing. 3-D and holography are likely. Maybe it'll all be just beamed into our brains. Will there be more than just sight and sound (and the rumble of woofers)? Mmmm. Wanna taste some delicacies from other worlds? Crap. Now I'm wishing I could catch a wiff of Princess Leia. Or a taste.
Find a way to send an email to an appropriate person. Start with the same first 3 sentences as in your post here. Then add that you'd expect them to take a few days to come to an internal agreement on what they'd be willing to spend to find out what you know. Let them make an offer, and unless it's ridiculously low, take it. It's found money to you. Right?
Be sure you make two things very, very, very clear to them: (1) If they choose not to buy your information, you will just drop the matter and they can go on being vulnerable; and (2) You will in no way exploit or pass on your knowledge in any way that could result in an exploit of the vulnerability.
If they don't want to pay, then you might see what established security firms would be willing to pay for the knowledge. If none of them seem interested, you should just drop it and go on with whatever you were researching in the first place. You can't save people from something they don't want to be saved from.
You weren't conducting your research for the purpose of making money off what you might have found, right? If it doesn't work out, just move on with your life and your work. Not everything has to end up with money changing hands.
You've got a good point. Maybe not always the money, but also the PR.
And that's why I say take it to one's local news station. That's the way to get it out there that the police are responding to what makes money and what is good PR.
I agree. Police aren't very receptive to ordinary citizens solving crimes and then asking the cops to finish the job. I had a friend who had a check stolen from a USPS blue mailbox. The thieves 'washed' the check and rewrote it for enough to cover a bunch of Gateway computers. Gateway had some problem (that I don't recall) with something that was on back order and called the phone number on the order, which (dumb criminals) was the same as on the check. My friend already had found out a check had been hijacked when other stuff started bouncing. So she got the shipping info - address, tracking # and date - and then took it to the cops. All they had to do was go to the address and arrest whoever accepted the package. Guess if they did. NOT. All they did was 'take a crime report'.
Cops are probably offended when citizens bring them solved crimes. They're a strange bunch. Anyone who knows one will confirm that. Unless that someone is dating or married to one, in which case that someone is also a strange one.:)
So I agree. Go the police first, and when they won't 'solve' the crime, tell the media. A local news channel's 'Consumer Watchdog' or whatever they're called in your town is the best bet. It's not really news for the normal broadcast, but it's juicy stuff for those 'we help our viewers' segments.
Uh, read my post. READ MY POST. Oh, and READ MY POST. And maybe READ MY POST. There must be something you can't understand in it. So READ MY POST AGAIN!. Then go away.
I'm sorta in the same place. I have to have a landline in order to get broadband. (Apartment owners made a deal with SBC... What can I say?). Anyway, all my friends use my cell #. When the landline rings (ringer is off), if I notice it (face lights up) or DirecTV caller ID shows up, if it's a local number I don't recogize, I just don't answer. If it's an area code where I have family and friends, I answer. But basically, JUST DON'T ANSWER. Not that big a deal.
Just where did you find the 'it just so happens...' info? I've read everything on that site and Googled the concept, and I don't see anything like that.
Common sense tells me that returning in 50k years is not NASA's point, but I'd sure like to read what you did that indicates it MAY return to Earth's vicinity in 50,000 years. Like you said, we should try to learn, and that's what I'm hoping to do. Can you post a link to the 50k year stuff? Thanks.
Robocopy. Does exactly what you want - mirrors and keeps sync'd folders or whole drives. It's from Microsoft, but they don't distribute it any more. I thnk it came on NT4 CDs, but you can find it on the net. I did. Very handy, like XCOPY32 on steroids.:)
So the article says 8 years is right at the limit? I'm sorry, I just couldn't plow thru it enough to get those kinds of numbers. Based on another reply, I'm thinking I should go out and buy a couple of hard drives and hope I can copy all those old CDs.
But I'd really like to have the formulas behind your calculations so I can keep up with this stuff. Please post them. Thanks.
Oh, and one other thing. I'll be upgrading my 401k investments later this month, and I'll need your input on that, too. I can guess it'll be as valuable as your reply above.
Just as I'm about to write something saying "hard drives are always going to fail", my brain says, "So? Your way is better?"
Hard drives are guaranteed to go, but not at all predictably when. I thought the study this thread is based on was trying to say more predictably when CDs would fail.
But you have a good point, as long as you have everything on more than one HD. I have, since I make 2 CDs of everything, about $300 worth of them backing up my 100 gig. And you're so right. I could make two HD backups of that much data for about the same money, maybe even a little less. Faster, too.
Man, I'm glad you posted that. Thanks. A 100 gig.:)
OK, I need to know how you 'spilled' a glass of orange juice into the back of a TV. And are you sure that's what the smell was? Just what were you doing back there?
That was such a big deal back then. Every drug, dime and grocery store had a tester stand, with all the replacements (always RCA as I remember... no wait. There was another brand. Red and blue boxes. Oh crap... Can't remember it.)
Not just TVs, but stereos and tabletop radios. Real 'amateur radio' hacks (ham operators) would never get their tubes there. They'd go to the (old, original) Radio Shack, or Lafayette store. Or more likely, order them out of the catalogues.
I agree. Some ISP gave the court and/or the RIAA her name and address as the registered owner of the IP address used for some 'proven' illegal transfers. Maybe she didn't have or even tolerate computers in her house, but someone, probably in her family ('ya think?) signed her up for Internet access and then maxxed out on file sharing. (Why does 'maxxed' look wrong?) The woman, if she were alive, should be exonerated (probably), but those in her family who lived there or spent a lot of time there should be visited by the guys with white-sidewall haircuts and talky things in their sleeves.
File swapping. Is that like wife swapping? You go to some seedy party, give over your music and warez, and then go listen to someone else's tunes for a while and check out their proggies. And then you go back home with your own CDs, but they feel all dirty and sticky?
I tried to understand the PDF, but it's way beyond me. Who can summarize it?
I have a ton of CDr's (everything I've ever created or downloaded) on the theory that when my hard drives go, I'll still have the orginal of whatever was on there. There's way too much to make new copies of, almost a 100 gig.
What's the bottom line? How long can I be sure my CDrs from 1997 will be of any use?
Has someone come up with a device that checks incoming calls against a list of people known to you,
Yeah. There is just such a device. It's commonly called YOUR BRAIN. Just hang up when you realize it's a telemarketer. They don't need nor deserve any civility. JUST HANG UP! Why is this such a big issue? Do you all stand and listen for a few minutes when a bum asks for 'spare change'? Just move on. Presumably you're paying for a phone line for your convenience, not the telemarketers'. You're not obligated to use your phone or your time to participate in their business. JUST HANG UP! It's YOUR phone, not theirs!
Got caller ID? See an 800/866/877/Unknown name? Just pick it up and hang it up. Kill the call. Legitimate businesses ID themselves with their name, not just a number. And if you see Verizon/SBC/Nifty Long Distance/Joe's Pest Control/Whatever on the ID... bet you can guess. Just pick it up and then hang up. Just kill the call. They'll move on.
Can you say Phone Spam? Do you delete email spam? Then... why not just delete phone spam?
YES, YES, YES! Either prove to/register with your ISP that you've got a newsletter or whatever that you send out to 1,000s, or get blocked until you can prove you're 'clean'. I agree with you. IPSs shouldn't have that hard a time detecting huge amounts of email coming from accounts that haven't registered as legitimate mass-mailing sites.
There's been essays on that subject before. The best I've read advocate ISPs monitoring what should be individual users' connections, and if they're sending out thousands of emails, they get cut off until or unless they can prove it's legitimate. And if they can't prove that, then they have to submit, before getting 'net access back, to a scan to prove they've cleaned themselves.
OK, but don't forget that the first and only effective anti-spam law in the U.S. was for FAX spam.
arcane, brilliant, overloaded, compatible. Couldn't think of any descriptive terms? (That was sarcasm.) Arcane??? Better look that one up, Sparky, or else if it really is arcane to you, you should find a new hobby. It's way simpler than blogging. Overloaded??? What's overloaded? Your unprotected inbox? Compatible is how it works. The power of the PC has no effect on the amount of spam it receives. If it's an unprotected Windows PC, then its power helps a little in the spam flood, but it really doesn't make much difference in the big picture.
And if you're looking for something nice and stable, surviving the centuries with virtually no illegal intrusions, consider the postal service. You know: written notes, sent physically, paid for by 'stamps', those little licky paper things?
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What sort of media will they be on? Surely they'll all be on one piece/device/thing. 3-D and holography are likely. Maybe it'll all be just beamed into our brains. Will there be more than just sight and sound (and the rumble of woofers)? Mmmm. Wanna taste some delicacies from other worlds? Crap. Now I'm wishing I could catch a wiff of Princess Leia. Or a taste.
Uh, I'll be back in a couple of minutes...
Find a way to send an email to an appropriate person. Start with the same first 3 sentences as in your post here. Then add that you'd expect them to take a few days to come to an internal agreement on what they'd be willing to spend to find out what you know. Let them make an offer, and unless it's ridiculously low, take it. It's found money to you. Right?
Be sure you make two things very, very, very clear to them: (1) If they choose not to buy your information, you will just drop the matter and they can go on being vulnerable; and (2) You will in no way exploit or pass on your knowledge in any way that could result in an exploit of the vulnerability.
If they don't want to pay, then you might see what established security firms would be willing to pay for the knowledge. If none of them seem interested, you should just drop it and go on with whatever you were researching in the first place. You can't save people from something they don't want to be saved from.
You weren't conducting your research for the purpose of making money off what you might have found, right? If it doesn't work out, just move on with your life and your work. Not everything has to end up with money changing hands.
You've got a good point. Maybe not always the money, but also the PR.
And that's why I say take it to one's local news station. That's the way to get it out there that the police are responding to what makes money and what is good PR.
I agree. Police aren't very receptive to ordinary citizens solving crimes and then asking the cops to finish the job. I had a friend who had a check stolen from a USPS blue mailbox. The thieves 'washed' the check and rewrote it for enough to cover a bunch of Gateway computers. Gateway had some problem (that I don't recall) with something that was on back order and called the phone number on the order, which (dumb criminals) was the same as on the check. My friend already had found out a check had been hijacked when other stuff started bouncing. So she got the shipping info - address, tracking # and date - and then took it to the cops. All they had to do was go to the address and arrest whoever accepted the package. Guess if they did. NOT. All they did was 'take a crime report'.
Cops are probably offended when citizens bring them solved crimes. They're a strange bunch. Anyone who knows one will confirm that. Unless that someone is dating or married to one, in which case that someone is also a strange one. :)
So I agree. Go the police first, and when they won't 'solve' the crime, tell the media. A local news channel's 'Consumer Watchdog' or whatever they're called in your town is the best bet. It's not really news for the normal broadcast, but it's juicy stuff for those 'we help our viewers' segments.
Uh, read my post. READ MY POST. Oh, and READ MY POST. And maybe READ MY POST. There must be something you can't understand in it. So READ MY POST AGAIN!. Then go away.
I'm sorta in the same place. I have to have a landline in order to get broadband. (Apartment owners made a deal with SBC... What can I say?). Anyway, all my friends use my cell #. When the landline rings (ringer is off), if I notice it (face lights up) or DirecTV caller ID shows up, if it's a local number I don't recogize, I just don't answer. If it's an area code where I have family and friends, I answer. But basically, JUST DON'T ANSWER. Not that big a deal.
Google never deletes ANYTHING! '...a short period of time'???? Yeah, right. Google already knows too much about me.
Common sense tells me that returning in 50k years is not NASA's point, but I'd sure like to read what you did that indicates it MAY return to Earth's vicinity in 50,000 years. Like you said, we should try to learn, and that's what I'm hoping to do. Can you post a link to the 50k year stuff? Thanks.
Robocopy. Does exactly what you want - mirrors and keeps sync'd folders or whole drives. It's from Microsoft, but they don't distribute it any more. I thnk it came on NT4 CDs, but you can find it on the net. I did. Very handy, like XCOPY32 on steroids. :)
But I'd really like to have the formulas behind your calculations so I can keep up with this stuff. Please post them. Thanks.
Oh, and one other thing. I'll be upgrading my 401k investments later this month, and I'll need your input on that, too. I can guess it'll be as valuable as your reply above.
Hard drives are guaranteed to go, but not at all predictably when. I thought the study this thread is based on was trying to say more predictably when CDs would fail.
But you have a good point, as long as you have everything on more than one HD. I have, since I make 2 CDs of everything, about $300 worth of them backing up my 100 gig. And you're so right. I could make two HD backups of that much data for about the same money, maybe even a little less. Faster, too.
Man, I'm glad you posted that. Thanks. A 100 gig. :)
OK, I need to know how you 'spilled' a glass of orange juice into the back of a TV. And are you sure that's what the smell was? Just what were you doing back there?
Not just TVs, but stereos and tabletop radios. Real 'amateur radio' hacks (ham operators) would never get their tubes there. They'd go to the (old, original) Radio Shack, or Lafayette store. Or more likely, order them out of the catalogues.
I agree. Some ISP gave the court and/or the RIAA her name and address as the registered owner of the IP address used for some 'proven' illegal transfers. Maybe she didn't have or even tolerate computers in her house, but someone, probably in her family ('ya think?) signed her up for Internet access and then maxxed out on file sharing. (Why does 'maxxed' look wrong?) The woman, if she were alive, should be exonerated (probably), but those in her family who lived there or spent a lot of time there should be visited by the guys with white-sidewall haircuts and talky things in their sleeves.
I'm new to this. Help me out.
I have a ton of CDr's (everything I've ever created or downloaded) on the theory that when my hard drives go, I'll still have the orginal of whatever was on there. There's way too much to make new copies of, almost a 100 gig.
What's the bottom line? How long can I be sure my CDrs from 1997 will be of any use?
(Man, remember 1x burners?)
Yeah. There is just such a device. It's commonly called YOUR BRAIN. Just hang up when you realize it's a telemarketer. They don't need nor deserve any civility. JUST HANG UP! Why is this such a big issue? Do you all stand and listen for a few minutes when a bum asks for 'spare change'? Just move on. Presumably you're paying for a phone line for your convenience, not the telemarketers'. You're not obligated to use your phone or your time to participate in their business. JUST HANG UP! It's YOUR phone, not theirs!
Got caller ID? See an 800/866/877/Unknown name? Just pick it up and hang it up. Kill the call. Legitimate businesses ID themselves with their name, not just a number. And if you see Verizon/SBC/Nifty Long Distance/Joe's Pest Control/Whatever on the ID... bet you can guess. Just pick it up and then hang up. Just kill the call. They'll move on.
Can you say Phone Spam? Do you delete email spam? Then... why not just delete phone spam?
Re your .sig: Shouldn't every business's model be profit, profit, profit? Uh, isn't that the point?
Modding is such a strange process. *sigh*
YES, YES, YES! Either prove to/register with your ISP that you've got a newsletter or whatever that you send out to 1,000s, or get blocked until you can prove you're 'clean'. I agree with you. IPSs shouldn't have that hard a time detecting huge amounts of email coming from accounts that haven't registered as legitimate mass-mailing sites.
There's been essays on that subject before. The best I've read advocate ISPs monitoring what should be individual users' connections, and if they're sending out thousands of emails, they get cut off until or unless they can prove it's legitimate. And if they can't prove that, then they have to submit, before getting 'net access back, to a scan to prove they've cleaned themselves.
arcane, brilliant, overloaded, compatible. Couldn't think of any descriptive terms? (That was sarcasm.) Arcane??? Better look that one up, Sparky, or else if it really is arcane to you, you should find a new hobby. It's way simpler than blogging. Overloaded??? What's overloaded? Your unprotected inbox? Compatible is how it works. The power of the PC has no effect on the amount of spam it receives. If it's an unprotected Windows PC, then its power helps a little in the spam flood, but it really doesn't make much difference in the big picture.
And if you're looking for something nice and stable, surviving the centuries with virtually no illegal intrusions, consider the postal service. You know: written notes, sent physically, paid for by 'stamps', those little licky paper things?
JCL isn't a language. It's a curse. COND= is all I need to say about that.
COBOL is there, but IBM's 'COBOL II' is missing. Somehow Rexx is shown to have stemmed from COBOL. WTF? That's like saying Perl stemmed from BASIC.
COBOL programmers were not responsible for the Y2K bug. Jesus was. We were just the ones to profit most from it.