There's a usability issue. Even Microsoft conceals a lot of permissions from most users. The whole notion of the Windows Power User was to open it up for those who had the capability. Android does have a lot of fine-grained permissions opened up now, but they're something you are going to have to dig for, because, let's be honest here, most users would probably screw things up royally if they went around monkeying with permission settings.
They'd have to accept some responsibility for why women don't want anything to do with them. That would mean self-reflection and honest self assessment. Much better to blame women, and attack women wherever they intrude upon their twisted notion of masculinity.
Since the government isn't chasing antivaxxers around, this is at best a non sequitur, an even by the low standards of that fallacy, a pretty damned tortured one.
There was barely a thing called science when Copernicus and Galileo came up with their models. In many ways, they were the first sciences. But really this misrepresents even them. Science didn't replace heliocentrism. Planets do orbit the sun. The model was updated with better observations and with more planets to test premises against. Heliocentrism wasn't disproven, it was improved. When you have to go back half a millennium to show how unreliable science is, I think even you know your argument is pretty specious.
The most successful series of public health initiatives since soap and in-door plumbing is a "real health scare". You should be lucky. I had a teacher in school who had polio as a child, and carried the scars the rest of his life. There are enough pictures of kids in iron lungs, kids damaged by measles outbreaks, and the like, to demonstrate that vaccines really are among the most successful medical interventions every created. There are millions of people whose lives have been saved outright, or have never had to suffer the long-term, often permanent ravages, of these diseases, and it's because of that that idiots like yourself seem so willing to be cavalier with both the truth and the health of millions of people.
Grow up. You do not possess some secret knowledge. You're just an ignorant fool.
Before wide use of the Internet, White Supremacists were a fringe group who basically communicated with each other via xeroxed periodicals delivered in brown paper wrapping. Yes, the White Supremacists were there, and yes, the general social censure gave them some sort of a bizarre mystique, but they were basically dying out. Along comes the Internet, and suddenly you have a racist goon driving a car into a crowd, and a pack of Neo-nazis chanting Antisemitic slogans on TV.
I'm sorry, but the fact is that if you make information harder to obtain, it does tend to cause the groups trying to disseminate it a great deal of trouble.
And heck, this is just making it a bit harder for Antivaxxers to spread their nonsense. I couldn't believe on a simple search onf Facebook for the word "vaccine", just how high up the antivaxxer garbage was in the search results.
- Misrepresentation of the term "scientific consensus" - Check - Exaggeration of incorrect science - Check - Post-modernist blather essentially making all opinions equal because of above "point" - Check
I'd say that's enough to either label you a pointless contrarian, or a complete moron, or worst of all, someone who wants to defend the spreading of dangerous lies about vaccines. So what is it? Are you just a miserable SOB, a fucking idiot, or actually outright evil?
Nothing is stopping you from creating your own antivaxx network. Go to it. Facebook is not obliged to host such content, or at the very least to make it easy to find. Censorship, as a dire tool of tyranny is only used in the context of the State, and so far as I'm aware, no one is proposing the US or other national governments make spreading antivaxx garbage unlawful.
That may be a bit of an exaggeration, but frankly, if it's free and I'm routing my traffic through it because I want an encrypted tunnel, I'm not too sure I'd trust any free service, or even many for-pay services. I've been rolling my own VPNs for about a decade now, mainly using OpenVPN. Yes, it's had the odd hole, and you still have to trust the encryption libraries it uses, but at least I'm creating the keys for the damned thing. I'm not sure I'd put anything on my phone that I need encryption for, mind you.
Let's also mention here that measles is one of the most contagious diseases in the world. It can spread very quickly. There simply is no better way to prevent measles than vaccination. The proof is in the pudding. The disease had become so rare in much of the developed world because of wide-scale vaccination campaigns (that I might add are among the most successful public health initiatives ever instituted), and now that some pretty evil people and a pack of simpering halfwits have decided in sufficient numbers to withhold vaccinations from their children, we're now seeing outbreaks that thirty years ago would have been all but impossible.
We're living in an age which morons suddenly are given equal weight to long established science.
That's like suggesting that Creationist institutes should have a voice in evolutionary biology. It's rubbish. Science isn't an act of diplomacy, and most certainly medical science is not. There are no doubts in the research world about the efficacy and safety of vaccines. The risks are known and are managed. Allowing antivaxxer scam artists an even bigger pretense of being informed interlocutors will do more harm than good.
No, I'm saying there are certain people who CANNOT be vaccinated, and when herd immunity has been achieved, those people are protected because everyone else around them has been vaccinated.
Nope. I'm not. I'm ready to use the power of the state to keep those kids out of schools or anywhere else where they can cause harm. I don't advocate removing parents' rights as guardians of their children, but I'm fully on board for making those parents feel the consequences of their actions.
Oh fuck off. We know the problem here is those with compromised immune systems, or very young children who cannot yet be vaccinated. Jesus Christ, are you retarded or just an ignoramus?
Except those that can't be. We rely upon 90%+ of people to be vaccinated to protect the minority who, for specific reasons cannot be. For chrissakes, this isn't news. We've known about the notion of herd immunity for well over a century. This is as established a branch of science as one can get.
Such studies are going to be needed to give the politicians and bureaucrats the cover they need. I don't think it's about convincing idiots not be idiots anymore, it's about setting sensible public policy that is going to necessarily intrude upon the civil liberties of parents who buy into the lies and stupidity of the antivaxxer movement. As with all things, any limitation on liberties requires substantial and demonstrable public good. This study goes some way towards providing policy makers with the ammunition they need.
I think we are rapidly approaching the point where vaccinations, if not outright forced, will give public health officials the power they need to restrict the ability of unvaccinated children to endanger others. It's the best we can probably do in a civil society, unless there is a major outbreak. If the latter happens, well, in the past we've had quarantine laws to prevent the spread of dangerous diseases. One hopes that more moderate but strictly enforced policies won't make that necessary.
But they don't have a right to endanger other people. If you don't want your kids vaccinated, they shouldn't be allowed in public schools (or heck, probably most private ones), or anywhere else where other children or immune-compromised people congregate. Your freedom to be a complete moron and endanger your own children should not extend to giving you the liberty to cause harm to others.
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There's a usability issue. Even Microsoft conceals a lot of permissions from most users. The whole notion of the Windows Power User was to open it up for those who had the capability. Android does have a lot of fine-grained permissions opened up now, but they're something you are going to have to dig for, because, let's be honest here, most users would probably screw things up royally if they went around monkeying with permission settings.
I think your post, rather than proving your point, proves mine.
They'd have to accept some responsibility for why women don't want anything to do with them. That would mean self-reflection and honest self assessment. Much better to blame women, and attack women wherever they intrude upon their twisted notion of masculinity.
Anecdotal evidence is worse than useless. Sorry mate, your belief is a false one. You are just plain wrong.
This is what happens when you let eight year olds on the Internet without supervision.
Since the government isn't chasing antivaxxers around, this is at best a non sequitur, an even by the low standards of that fallacy, a pretty damned tortured one.
There was barely a thing called science when Copernicus and Galileo came up with their models. In many ways, they were the first sciences. But really this misrepresents even them. Science didn't replace heliocentrism. Planets do orbit the sun. The model was updated with better observations and with more planets to test premises against. Heliocentrism wasn't disproven, it was improved. When you have to go back half a millennium to show how unreliable science is, I think even you know your argument is pretty specious.
The most successful series of public health initiatives since soap and in-door plumbing is a "real health scare". You should be lucky. I had a teacher in school who had polio as a child, and carried the scars the rest of his life. There are enough pictures of kids in iron lungs, kids damaged by measles outbreaks, and the like, to demonstrate that vaccines really are among the most successful medical interventions every created. There are millions of people whose lives have been saved outright, or have never had to suffer the long-term, often permanent ravages, of these diseases, and it's because of that that idiots like yourself seem so willing to be cavalier with both the truth and the health of millions of people.
Grow up. You do not possess some secret knowledge. You're just an ignorant fool.
Before wide use of the Internet, White Supremacists were a fringe group who basically communicated with each other via xeroxed periodicals delivered in brown paper wrapping. Yes, the White Supremacists were there, and yes, the general social censure gave them some sort of a bizarre mystique, but they were basically dying out. Along comes the Internet, and suddenly you have a racist goon driving a car into a crowd, and a pack of Neo-nazis chanting Antisemitic slogans on TV.
I'm sorry, but the fact is that if you make information harder to obtain, it does tend to cause the groups trying to disseminate it a great deal of trouble.
And heck, this is just making it a bit harder for Antivaxxers to spread their nonsense. I couldn't believe on a simple search onf Facebook for the word "vaccine", just how high up the antivaxxer garbage was in the search results.
Jesus Christ. Seek medical help. You need some intense paranoia.
- Misrepresentation of the term "scientific consensus" - Check
- Exaggeration of incorrect science - Check
- Post-modernist blather essentially making all opinions equal because of above "point" - Check
I'd say that's enough to either label you a pointless contrarian, or a complete moron, or worst of all, someone who wants to defend the spreading of dangerous lies about vaccines. So what is it? Are you just a miserable SOB, a fucking idiot, or actually outright evil?
Nothing is stopping you from creating your own antivaxx network. Go to it. Facebook is not obliged to host such content, or at the very least to make it easy to find. Censorship, as a dire tool of tyranny is only used in the context of the State, and so far as I'm aware, no one is proposing the US or other national governments make spreading antivaxx garbage unlawful.
That may be a bit of an exaggeration, but frankly, if it's free and I'm routing my traffic through it because I want an encrypted tunnel, I'm not too sure I'd trust any free service, or even many for-pay services. I've been rolling my own VPNs for about a decade now, mainly using OpenVPN. Yes, it's had the odd hole, and you still have to trust the encryption libraries it uses, but at least I'm creating the keys for the damned thing. I'm not sure I'd put anything on my phone that I need encryption for, mind you.
My understanding is that the measles vaccine, after the booster shot, basically confers lifetime immunity. It is a highly effective vaccine.
Let's also mention here that measles is one of the most contagious diseases in the world. It can spread very quickly. There simply is no better way to prevent measles than vaccination. The proof is in the pudding. The disease had become so rare in much of the developed world because of wide-scale vaccination campaigns (that I might add are among the most successful public health initiatives ever instituted), and now that some pretty evil people and a pack of simpering halfwits have decided in sufficient numbers to withhold vaccinations from their children, we're now seeing outbreaks that thirty years ago would have been all but impossible.
We're living in an age which morons suddenly are given equal weight to long established science.
That's like suggesting that Creationist institutes should have a voice in evolutionary biology. It's rubbish. Science isn't an act of diplomacy, and most certainly medical science is not. There are no doubts in the research world about the efficacy and safety of vaccines. The risks are known and are managed. Allowing antivaxxer scam artists an even bigger pretense of being informed interlocutors will do more harm than good.
Ah, misrepresentation of science, the hallmark of the antivaxxer.
No, I'm saying there are certain people who CANNOT be vaccinated, and when herd immunity has been achieved, those people are protected because everyone else around them has been vaccinated.
Nope. I'm not. I'm ready to use the power of the state to keep those kids out of schools or anywhere else where they can cause harm. I don't advocate removing parents' rights as guardians of their children, but I'm fully on board for making those parents feel the consequences of their actions.
And here I was thinking all we needed to do was use your hosts file in our genome.
Oh fuck off. We know the problem here is those with compromised immune systems, or very young children who cannot yet be vaccinated. Jesus Christ, are you retarded or just an ignoramus?
I'm sorry. I got tripped up by your blatant non sequitur.
Except those that can't be. We rely upon 90%+ of people to be vaccinated to protect the minority who, for specific reasons cannot be. For chrissakes, this isn't news. We've known about the notion of herd immunity for well over a century. This is as established a branch of science as one can get.
Such studies are going to be needed to give the politicians and bureaucrats the cover they need. I don't think it's about convincing idiots not be idiots anymore, it's about setting sensible public policy that is going to necessarily intrude upon the civil liberties of parents who buy into the lies and stupidity of the antivaxxer movement. As with all things, any limitation on liberties requires substantial and demonstrable public good. This study goes some way towards providing policy makers with the ammunition they need.
I think we are rapidly approaching the point where vaccinations, if not outright forced, will give public health officials the power they need to restrict the ability of unvaccinated children to endanger others. It's the best we can probably do in a civil society, unless there is a major outbreak. If the latter happens, well, in the past we've had quarantine laws to prevent the spread of dangerous diseases. One hopes that more moderate but strictly enforced policies won't make that necessary.
But they don't have a right to endanger other people. If you don't want your kids vaccinated, they shouldn't be allowed in public schools (or heck, probably most private ones), or anywhere else where other children or immune-compromised people congregate. Your freedom to be a complete moron and endanger your own children should not extend to giving you the liberty to cause harm to others.