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'Captain Marvel' Smashes Box Office Record, Laughs Off Review-Bombing Trolls (hollywoodreporter.com)
"With a $302 million international gross, Captain Marvel has earned $455 million overall to date, the largest ever global opening for a March release and the sixth highest of all-time," reports the Wrap. The superhero movie raked in $153 million just in America, reports Collider, "Suggesting that a sad, extremely vocal minority of idiots on the internet don't actually matter in the slightest."
They're referring to another Rotten Tomateos review-counting glitch Friday morning, as covered by the Hollywood Reporter: The Disney film had only been in theaters for hours on Friday when the female-driven superhero picture was torpedoed online via Rotten Tomatoes. As of 8 a.m., the film had more than 58,000 reviews. That is more than the total of audience score reviews for Avengers: Infinity War for its entire theatrical run.
Rotten Tomatoes explained in a statement to The Hollywood Reporter that a glitch was responsible for thousands of reviews showing up on the site when they shouldn't have. According to Rotten Tomatoes, it had included audience reviews given before the film was released, something which is no longer allowed.
Movieweb believes those pre-release reviews were generated by bots, suggesting a small handful of review-bombers who were attempting to amplify their impact. Yahoo Entertainment believes the attempted review-bombers were angry with the film's star "for, well, not giving a crap about what the trolls say. Perhaps that's the best superpower of all."
When asked about the attempt to review-bomb Captain Marvel, the film's star Brie Larson smilingly replied, "Oh... who cares?"
"Love what you love! Who cares what other people think?"
They're referring to another Rotten Tomateos review-counting glitch Friday morning, as covered by the Hollywood Reporter: The Disney film had only been in theaters for hours on Friday when the female-driven superhero picture was torpedoed online via Rotten Tomatoes. As of 8 a.m., the film had more than 58,000 reviews. That is more than the total of audience score reviews for Avengers: Infinity War for its entire theatrical run.
Rotten Tomatoes explained in a statement to The Hollywood Reporter that a glitch was responsible for thousands of reviews showing up on the site when they shouldn't have. According to Rotten Tomatoes, it had included audience reviews given before the film was released, something which is no longer allowed.
Movieweb believes those pre-release reviews were generated by bots, suggesting a small handful of review-bombers who were attempting to amplify their impact. Yahoo Entertainment believes the attempted review-bombers were angry with the film's star "for, well, not giving a crap about what the trolls say. Perhaps that's the best superpower of all."
When asked about the attempt to review-bomb Captain Marvel, the film's star Brie Larson smilingly replied, "Oh... who cares?"
"Love what you love! Who cares what other people think?"
I guess you guys can go upstairs and complain to your mommies?
The population loves to pretend they are super-heroes, while gobbling up extra large coke with extra margarine popcorn.
But it doesn't make society any better, does it? Bringing more and more anger and division to our pop culture is only hastening a very ugly future in which we are at open war over our racial, ethnic, and gender divisions.
I much preferred the Wonder Woman approach myself. Give us a great story and a great hero who unites us--not a propaganda piece that only ramps up the hate.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
People just couldn't wait to see in full 3D IMAX Captain Marvel beat the crap out of the old lady in the bus. :)
Fuck your superhero distraction from your President's 8000+ drone strikes killing untold and now unreported numbers of civilians.
Fuck you. Youre evil.
This reminds me of the time when there was a similar poll asking people to vote Leno vs Conan after the NBC fiasco. The poll results were overwhelmingly favoring Conan for the first few days. Then the poll owner switched the names around to make Leno appear favorable. Eventually the new Conan numbers increased and edged the Leno numbers just past 50%.
It's bizarre that media outlets are obsessed with people playing pranks these days. These movies are only average at best no matter what they make at the box office.
But I guess it makes money, otherwise Slashdot wouldn't be posting about it.
Many people are reporting near-empty theatres. Could it be that the numbers are false?
you must like this movie. you must watch this movie. this movie is awesome. you should watch superhero movies. this is the best superhero movie. you do not have an opinion. we say this is a good movie. you must go see captain marvel. march is women's history month. if you didn't see movie on women's day you are a cis white male scum. the age of white men is over. this is the best movie. you are not allowed to review movie. there are no bad reviews of this movie.
Prices of everything are higher than ever, so it's becoming the norm to see and expect headlines like this.
Like all superhero movies it's formulaic, generic, and patently stupid.
Only an idiot would like it.
Does anyone know why Stan Lee tweeted ads for Captain Marvel when he's dead?
Everyone knows what a piece of crap Rotten tomatoes is, and how bad Brie Larson acts in the Captain Marvel movie - and how much Disney pays to quash negative reviews.
Rotten tomatoes is the definition of a Rotten movie review site, all thanks to Disney. They're become like IGN now, being spoilt by large studios like EA and being paid to sell terrible games.
If anything the review bombing shows, is that it did happen in the past for many DC movies, and they quietly let it slip; Now that the focus has turned on a horrible Marvel movie, they've decided to address it. It's these double standards that we as movie watchers should care about. Don't let Disney get away with it.
If the movie is crap, review it and let people know how bad it is. Send Marvel a message and teach Disney a lesson it will not forget.
Truth be told, I don't think almost anyone on either side spends any actual money for their side. Slacktivism wins in the end.
But it does go to show how ridiculous and impotent the incels' efforts are. They can't sink a movie even when they sink its reviews. They really should forget this ridiculous nonsense and just grow the fuck up already. Then people might actually want them around for once.
They weren't reviews, they were "want to see" indicators. Stop lying.
That is not trolling, trolling is saying stupid things online to get a reaction from people who should know better. Grow up.
I don't think you know what those words mean.
And anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is lying.
Brie Larson made some completely tone deaf and racist statements, that upset a lot of people. They expressed their dismay this way.
It absolutely has nothing to do with the quality of the actual movie.
But the media coverage is completely off the rails biased. Or rather let's just call it what it is they're lying about it. As they lied about the "do you want to see the movie?" poll.
It is a coordinated campaign to protect Brie Larson, while shitting on the people she offended.
One site had a bunch of people say they weren't going to go see it. News hungry sites and YouTubers pounced on it like a dog on steak because the anti SJW crap gets clicks. We're all being played for ad revenue. It's pissing me off and I can't do anything about it except point out.
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Cue the counter-narrative that the troll bombs were an inside job, furthering two parallel agendas:
* to drive insta-guerrilla publicity for the movie
* to discredit word-of-mouth review
In the almost-as-large-as-life MCU, this wouldn't even count as a least mustard-seed of a standard-issue dastardly plot.
I voted I did not wanted to see. Rotten tomatoes changed 47K do not want to see votes to "liked it". So much for credibility.
I had no skin in this one and wouldn't waste my time on "review bombing," probably done by the marketing department to convince the people paying for the marketing department to increase their wages since it would take so much effort to overcome the "trolling." Obvious psy-op is obvious.
If you look at the showtime lists for any theater nationwide, it's obvious that the execs have paid to dominate the showtimes with only Captain Marvel, pushing out other films entirely. They're only trying to spin it to look like a social movement to cover up this practice and to incite people to see it, pushing away the fact that it's simply a below-average A-list movie.
Reviews sway the opinions of those who are weak-minded, may not reflect the true quality of the [thing] may actually be paid for.
Examples: The Final Countdown. Dreadful reviews. Love the film. Down Periscope: Dreadful reviews. Love the film.
FZ50 panasonic camera: worst camera ever if you believe the reviews. Love mine.
If someone needs reviews to decide they like something, they're susceptible to Jedi Mind Tricks and are easy plunder.
The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
Clearly, these so-called incels occupy a large part of your existence.
How much of this success owes to inflation, (are these gross figures adjusted for inflation?) to the fact that the movie-going population draws from a progressively larger and larger pool, (the 350 million or whatever people we have in America alone, for example,) or the fact that the majority of the country (in America at least,) has skyrocketing incentive to want to escape reality as governments crumble under the onslaught of criminals in high offices, deliberate placement of completely incompetent submorons, (Rick Perry as Secretary of ENERGY, for fucks sake? Ben Carson (who busted the myth that a brain surgeon is necessarily smart,) as Secretary of HUD? Jesus H MF Christ! That is just to name TWO.
Is whether a movie is any good. I don’t care about the trolls, who never venture far from the rocks they cower under anyway. And I don’t care about the flag-wavers like this review writer - feel free to listen to your Helen Reddy album on continuous loop, just don’t insist I sing along.
I don’t care what an actor’s or actress’ opinion is, I only care whether they can act. When performers think they’re bigger than they are, we get Clint Eastwood rambling to an empty chair or Morgan Fairchild explaining why the common folk need to be told what to think about the issues of the day.
I’m almost certainly not going to see this movie in the theater anyway. By the time it’s available to watch in my home, the dust will have settled - I can ask my friends whether they’ve see it and if it’s any good. But good grief... it’s just a movie.
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Investing into small team of review-bombers is a brilliant marketing move.
Trolls like you are part of the problem. You're making the world a shittier, more hateful place. Now go apologize to your parents for letting them down.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Actually the headline should be "Brie Larson makes insanely racist and sexist comments and ignorant moviegoers see it anyway."
Your revolution is over, Mr. Redpill, Condolences. The bums lost. My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir.
Cheering on a Disney movie (and an inarguably subpar one at that) because GRRL POWA.
Where's the socialists now? GRRL POWA!
Where's the copyright arguments? GRRL POWA!
Rotten Tomatoes completely destroyed and subverted their own reporting system (can you ever trust their tomato scores again?) GRRL POWA.
You guys are being suckered for pure crass-commericalism - you spent your money to see a movie from an org you hate, perpetuating capitalism and then pat yourself on the back because you support the GRRL POWA because the advertising told you to believe that's what this movie was about.
Then, then you have the audacity to post an inflammatory summary to show your oh so righteous indignation about how you support crass commercialized movies as if you've somehow "won"?
Well enjoy your pyrrhic victory...
Once more, the nerds are defeated, the Beautiful People triumph. Now cry, nerdinhos. Does it hurt? Does it hurt much? How does it feel to be beaten and humiliated over and over and over again? Tears now streak your acne-ridden faces, you butthurt incel losers. Your precious internet is shit. Your computers are shit. YOU are shit. Kill yourselves so you won't have to feel the pain of living a life of eternal defeat. You will never, ever, ever have your "revenge". A lifetime of social exclusion awaits you. There is a way out, it can be painless.
Her origin story is that she suffered the hardship of some man telling her baseball isn't a sport for girls.
Batman's origin story is that criminals murdered his parents for something trivial.
As the Melania body double famously said, "I really don’t care, do u?"
Is anyone surprised that nobody listened to a bunch of man babies who were upset that their superhero didn't have a penis? The good news is that none of them will be procreating, so the 40 year-old overweight man baby who hangs around the comic book store and jacks off to drawings of Thor genetic profile will soon disappear and the rest of us can go on with our lives.
However, it may drastically reduce the Anonymous Coward population, so comme ci, comme ça, which is Gaelic for "fuck them sad sacks".
You are welcome on my lawn.
"They're referring to another Rotten Tomateos review-counting glitch Friday morning, as covered by the Hollywood Reporter:"
How do you know this because rotten tomatoes told you?
Ive been pretty interested in this debate and theres been a ton of bad actors on both sides of it. The biggest takeaway from it is you cant trust rotten tomatoes anymore since there happy to fake claim the narrative for there own ends. RT was never review bombed when they took down the want to see button for ppl saying nah no thanks. Then they remove 50k reviews because of a glitch (lol) while countless copy pasta positive reviews stay up, I say the big mouse has to much power.
I don't care about the film (I don't like any movie super heroes AT ALL, only deadpool and mostly only for the 4th wall humour - without the 4th wall humour I would not bother watching). But one thing I remark is that the first openning is not that important for any film. What is important is 1) is this sustainable after word of mouth (e.g. 155M 1st week end and 3M next is bad) and 2) how does it compare with the long tail (e.g. some film do much better on the dvd market than in cinema). I am just saying that they should wait a bit before jubilating with their chicken counting. As for the controversy.... I am not even sure there was that much. One was about rotten tomatoe "i want to watch i don't want to watch" prediction, another thing was by the blonde actress can't remember her name, but compared to say ghostbuster 2016 ? It was tame.
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I should point out that the current movie era, dominated by cartoon tent-poles, is based on network effects. Remember those? We used to discuss them on Slashdot back in the day.
As movies gained international markets, there was a marked effect on the quality of your typical movie, which I've dubbed Dialogue for Dummies. The strong, silent protagonist of the 1950s made a splashing comeback, simply because it was easier to dub into a dozen major international markets. Witty repartee does not translate. Subtleties are inevitably Lost in Translation.
The second effect is that this particular style of movie-making was garnering ever and ever larger budgets. The increase in the special effects budget helped to retain the traditional English-language markets (America, the Commonwealth, and its lingering enclaves—mainly English-speaking regions of Eastern India) due to far inferior dialogue and story line.
I watched Incredibles 2 the other night, and I managed to enjoy it, because I've learned how to best tune out the plot, and there's so much going on visually, you can actually pick out where all the intelligence formerly devoted to the script went to ground.
This is why almost all tent-pole humour is now visual there's nothing to lose in translation, and people who care about the lame plot will barely even notice it's also in there (so they don't end up feeling left out). Plus it's hard for reviewers to write about the visual humour, because it's usually aggressively sub-verbal (quirky nods to artistic conventions from decades past) so it can't even be pointed out to the dunderheads with any great force that they're definitely missing the best part.
Long ago, I didn't suspect the word "globalization" spelled the end for intelligent dialogue in film, to be replaced by a bag of seventeen colour-coded hammers, each endowed with a distinctive visual style and unique superpower, to be "shown not told" to a tedious extreme not even replicated by 1980s television which presumed you had been off watching two other channels during every commercial break, and thus recapped every recap twice over.
My most fascinating movie experience recently was watching Isle of Dogs (2018) more or less back-to-back with Up (2009). Both movies feature talking dogs. One of these films was widely misunderstood by idiots to be a grievous grievance-studies pillory of Japanese cultural tropes, never mind that the Japan represented in this movie was painstakingly constructed out of the whole cloth of how American culture actually encodes Japan (surely the Japanese have the same naive cultural encoding of America, which this movie invites you to contemplate, if you're not already lathering about the primacy of the thing, rather than the primacy of the perception of the thing). Because of the current tent-pole phenomena, the younger generation seems to be well on the way to forgetting that the primary subject matter of creative fiction is reality as refracted through perception.
I think Wes Anderson explores the world of meta-attention, which is why he's not a great story teller on his own terms. But none of these tent-pole movies have a great story, either. Incredibles 2: bitter orphan v. smarmy orphan, a kind of orphan Rashomon story (neither of whom has forgotten their original name, but I guess you can't have everything). No, it hasn't really been done before—except the "orphan" part, which has been done to death.
Wes does a great job of engaging the hypertrophic alternate attention I've had to cultivate merely to make it through your average five-star tent-pole movie (I won't even touch a four-star effort).
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Maybe you should take a lesson from Captain Marvel and not let things people say on the Internet hurt your feelings :-D
Are you seriously that fucking stupid not to notice what a hateful profane jackass you are yourself? NPCs are so goddamn brain dead that they always fail with this.
See subject: Your premise in review of REVIEWS fails too - don't you SEE it? On reviews: I'll put ones from /.ers of MY work out there & why?? FUCK, lol - hardest fucks to GET A GOOD REVIEW OUT OF (& I literally have DOZENS to my good credit) ARE from /.ers...
* Roughest critics I've EVER seen online since 1994 (when I began putting out wares for "public consumption" which NEVER would've happened unless friends of mine liked my work & said "put it out there man...")
LASTLY, of course: DO-NOTHING dildos HIDING behind FAKE NAMES online (like you)? WOULD bitch @ those like ME doing well in the eyes of others - now wouldn't you? FACT: YOU ARE NOW, lol!
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Yeah, what about the Nazis always being the bad guys in movies. They also always white and male. That's totally racist and sexist!
it's now officially impossible to have an opinion or discussion about this film, because it's become nothing more than a political litmus test. It's funny-- I don't think there has ever been a movie in the history of film where the conversation around the film has so thoroughly degenerated into a politically-motivated pissing contest. Even films with an overt and hard-edged political or social message, like "Do The Right Thing", were still viewed as works of art, which you could discuss as *films* first and as political statements second.
I think that trolls on both sides of the political spectrum share precisely equal amounts of blame for this situation.
Of course, the steadily (in some instances, rapidly) increasing ticket prices over the years had no effect upon that accolade.
Who hired the bots?
I reserve the write to mangle english.
Found the sock puppet network
", the largest ever global opening for a March release", For march O'Rly ?
The movie had a U.S. take of 153 million prior to review bruhaha it was targeted at 180 million so it had an underperform of roughly 20%
Stirring up the controversy may have been able to buy them a good opening for the movie. (I have no idea if it's good or bad Hell who pays 20 bucks to see a movie when there's bit torrent and 60 inch monitors)
Run by weak men.
Thanks to new ownership and a wide understanding that comments are forever Slashdot is no longer an effective medium for discourse on many topics. This is but one of them. It may not be a #metoo echo chamber but once upon a time controversial discussions were had here without posting as AC over a VPN connection
You are a certified troll, with a sock puppet modding you up, and we're all laughing. It's so damned obvious, stop trying so hard dude.
Just as it didn't with Star Wars. Whatever atrocity they make after Endgame will be 'the first Marvel movie to lose money'. I guarantee it. A great many people saw this in anticipation of the final Avengers film. Make no mistake - the movie is a steaming pile of Disney propaganda.
and so do movies with forced female leads
When I went to see it the theater was almost empty, while the cinema as a whole had as large a crowd as I've ever seen on a Saturday. I wonder if these numbers are correct?
I do not belong to the church of the lowercase 'i'
Why does bad reviews instantly mean trolling? Just because a movie was hyped up to try to get as much people to go and watch it doesn't mean the movie was excellent. You got people tricked into paying to see your crap movie, sort of like how EA hypes up games to get people to buy it only to find out it's crap. If it keeps up, you'll end up like the video gaming scene where no one buys into hype anymore and game sales drop off dramatically because of it. You can fool people up to a point, but eventually it's going to take another generation to pull off again since people remember this for a life time.
This can be seen by how you only see what is in your head, not what is outside it. Your reconstruction of reality to fit what you want to see and then use it to complain that a woman has had a superhero role, and has also, gasp, not pandered to your gender in the past, shows that there is no good in you for the movies to show.
My multiplex has 3 screens, for 3 days Captain Marvell was the only movie shown. They closed down 2 screens.
There was no choice. Did Disney pay for this? don't know.
I'm in NZ, The same happened in various cinemas in Australia and US
Quick, make a movie with an all white male cast that these spendthrifts will line up to see.
That should be today's mantra!
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All the Marvel movies I've seen in the past couple years have been generic and boring AF. Based upon what I've been reading from reviews from nonpartisan reviewers about this movie, it itself doesn't really have much of any politics but its also fairly generic. I just think the whole MCU and superhero genre is now tired and played out at this point with a gabillion samey movies for over a decade now. I guess its not to much of a stretch that initial ticket sales could be high since the general population is largely ignorant of any of the politicking on either side and will gobble anything up to a certain extent if its hyped enough. I mean this is the same crowd that turned out for phantom menace. But its not really any more indication of quality or a 'victory' any more than the reviewbombing.
it was just bad. Apparently they tried to ad-lib most of it instead of having a script and that worked out about as well as you'd expect.
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in the nerd community. It's almost as if do that was profitable...
Seriously, you'd be better off ignoring them when this crap comes up. You're getting played.
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Those wanting to drench our nations in immigrants are also a tiny loud minority?
I think if people are honest, they have to admit Hollywood has a recent history of trying really hard to "preach" a certain agenda. When the star in Capt. Marvel was quoted making comments about the movie not being for white males and so on, it definitely turned me off to having interest in buying a ticket for it.
I've heard nothing but praise for some of the throwback 90's nostalgia in it though, which I think is positive. (The throwback to 70's - 80's nostalgia found all over "Stranger Things" is part of what made that series such a success too.)
I might check this one out, after all.
This is an MCU movie with no competition marketed to pander to woke people so extensively that it was even released on International Women's Day. No one with a brain thought it was going to have a bad opening weekend. You won't get a good idea of how the movie has been received until next weekend. It's like The Last Jedi--that movie had a massive opening only to drop 67.5% in the second week, ending up making 33% less than The Force Awakens and having knock-on effects on the rest of the franchise. Captain Marvel probably won't turn into that sort of disaster for various reasons (primarily that it's not considered a core movie), but there's no reason to be celebrating some sort of political or moral victory just yet.
BTW, despite Rotten Tomatoes going to every effort to purge the reviews of bad actors, the audience score for Captain Marvel is still only 57%.
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anyone who looks at the MCU about Captain Marvel, history shows us that it has been played by both men and women. what's next, do I dare ask? I believe the power struggle on who should wear the title is a matter of opinion and not principle. look at Into The Spiderverse where the message is anyone can be SpiderMan, as a symbol of good. With great power comes great responsibility. Captain Marvel is a character as scripted by the movie as one born from the energy exposure of the infinity stones; The Space Stone (Tesseract). its a good movie. onto phase 4.
It was a pile of trash.
The movie is passable as an origin story. As far as I can tell, mostly the only people that are finding egregious SJW agenda driven pandering in it are people who either a) haven't seen it yet, b) decided they were going to hate it and looked for every little flaw to back their preconceived notion (confirmation bias), or c) are doubling down so they don't have to admit they might have been wrong. Sure, some people just don't like the movie. And that's fine. I thought it was okay. And that's fine too. Yet others absolutely love it. And that is also fine.
Is Captain Marvel the best movie of all time? No. It has issues. Some of those issues are precisely because it *is* an origin story. Keep in mind that it has to lay the character groundwork for *people who know nothing about the comics*. If you already know much of what is going to happen ahead of time, of course it's going to seem slow or boring. But you'll find that *most* of the cinema-goers *gasp* don't read the comics. Some of the issues are maybe due to direction or scripts. I rather suspect a nontrivial number of them are due to editing decisions. But overall, the movie was entertaining and I don't feel like my admission price was wasted.
I think the biggest problem with Captain Marvel is simply that the marketing was badly flawed and agenda driven. And even then, it didn't really blow up until Larson opened her yap and said something less than brilliant at which point agenda driven shills, etc., ran with it.
If it works in theory, try something else in practice.
At least he is not a stupid ugly n1gger like you. Go back to your shitty n1ggerstan, dumb bitch.
You just proved his point.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Even a baM marvel movie can make money, and what I hear from real people, is that the movie is bad.
Second wake take will be more interesting to see.
Personally I wasn't going to see it in a theater anyway, as I have watched pretty much every Marvel movie at home (and plan to keep up the trend even with the new Spider Man and Infinity War conclusion). I'll wait to hear from others if I even decide to rent it...
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Success wrong.. Chances are the overseas numbers are a lie also. Theater I was in had less folks in this movie on opening weekend than Alita which was 1 month old. The paid actor they had in the front dressed like captain marvel we watched for 30 minutes waiting, 5 kids went to see, the rest walked around.
The only good thing the character has ever done was almost die to Rogue giving her the ability to fly and basic super strength permanently. Danvers is the reason War Machine dies in the comics, she lets him die.
I'm not seeing any films until Danny DeVito stars as Wonder Woman.
For a specific month? Fuck that noise, wake me up when they do it for a fucking half-decade in a single month. That's a real record. This "story" is just marketing fucking fluff made up by idiots.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
If it was a white male saying similar to what the movie's star did. Double standards are no standards.
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Why is it that the people who ostensibly hate toxic masculinity consistently insult men by conservative masculine norms? Cowardice, lack of virility, unattractive, tiny dick...
Whatever happened to muh gender is a social construct? I guess not when it comes down to it eh.
Because the same reason everyone that disagrees with me is my enemy and I must win by any means necessary.
I mean, there is literally an Antifa group called BAM, (By Any Means), and the first step to fighting an enemy with this mindset is to dehumanize them.
The correct answer to this is "You, obviously, or you would not have replied."
If ignorant pre-reviewers aren't relevant, why do journalists keep writing stories about them?
None of that changes the fact that it has the 6th best opening weekend of all time.
Trolls like you are part of the problem. You're making the world a shittier, more hateful place. Now go apologize to your parents for letting them down.
His parents should apologize to us for not doing a better job.
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I can't seem to avoid mixing up Bries Larson and Olson. As a result, my expectations for the movie are all over the place.
Are you trying to prove his point with this post?
Yes, quoting an asshole's own words back at him is total hypocrisy on the part of the ... quoter.
How much simpering self-pity does it take to come up with that logic?
3.3 was the User Score for Metacritic and RT deleted 55,000 Audience Scores. Take any side you want. Disney probably spent 500 million promoting the movie and making sure it played every 10 minutes all weekend in theaters.
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A great way to avoid identity politics in movies is to do what I do and stay off Twitter, Reddit, and any other platform that gives a voice to the masses. I don't notice most of the "horrible indiscretions" on my own (probably because they aren't worth noticing) and without the outrage police screaming in my ear from either the right or the left I get to just watch and like or dislike a movie or show without a bunch of lame drama just like I used to years ago.
I would think this would work for anybody who doesn't care about the outrage machine and identity politics. Without some one constantly telling you to be outraged, it's much easier to let things that really just dont matter slide by.
Sadly though, this would never do a thing for those that want to be outraged. They'll keep finding reasons to be outraged because deep down that's what they want.
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Disney has been a bad actor in multiple venues for decades: Bribing congress to extend copyright terms, brainwashing children into their plastic, homogenized version of reality, ruining vast swaths of the Everglades for their phony plastic castles, and now dominating pop culture through Star Wars and Marvel.
Yes, posting as AC. If anonymity was good enough for Benjamin Franklin, it's good enough for me.
"There's plenty of legitimate arguments against what people were actually upset about, reducing it to the strawman "omg they're sexists mad because it's a female lead!" is inaccurate and demonstrates you're every bit as intellectually dishonest as the people you're criticizing."
Captain Marvel seems to have generated a certain amount of outrage as illustrated by the online trolling it received both now and before the movie came out. The reason a lot of people blame sexism over the female lead for this is because they're searching for an explanation for the outrage and it seems to fit what is going on. If Captain Marvel was just a bad movie the outrage wouldn't have been there prior to the movie's release and it wouldn't have been there after the movie came out as bad movies happen. i don't remember outrage when John Travolta's Gotti came out and I don't remember mass internet trolling happening over how terrible that film was. Gotti certainly never had more reviews than Infinity War ever got pop up on Rotten Tomatoes on its opening day, tanking the movie's rating.
So then is the movie, Captain Marvel itself sexist and that's the problem people are getting outraged over? Again, there certainly wouldn't have been the outrage prior to the movie coming out. After that, I think most people just don't see that as there are plenty of positive male roles in the movie and Captain Marvel herself just doesn't practice much "male bashing".
So given all that, if sexism over the female lead isn't the driving force behind all of the outrage this movie is getting, what is it?
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Spoiler - I'm female so if you want to let that influence your responses to my post then so be it.
I saw the movie this weekend. I have zero exposure to the Marvel comic universes and went in without seeing trailer, reading articles, etc. I went in cold expecting to be told a story. I knew it was an origin movie and adjusted my expectations accordingly.
As an origin movie it works. The new characters are developed enough to fit into future movies, existing characters are true to what is already in the series, and there were a few "Ohhhhh....." moments for me where things clicked from previous movies.
Do you NEED to see it before seeing the next Avengers movie? Probably not. Some simple searches on the internet will get you enough information about Captain Marvel in the MCU to get you up to speed.
It's not in my top X list of movies but it's not something that is too much out of line with the others. Thor: Ragnarok had more things that bothered me than this one, to be honest.
I will admit the opening scene with the Marvel logo had me tearing up and I wasn't the only one.
So basically Captain Marvel was a sexist movie because Brie Larson said 2 things you didn't like?
One of them not even about the Captain Marvel movie no less...
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Controversy is a common sales tactics for violent video games. GTA success was built on that. They generated artificial controversy for how immoral and violent and bad that game was, yet, they were careful enough not to get an "adult only" rating so that every kid can buy it. It has proven successful. Note that while recent installments are huge and stand by their own merits, the first ones were not particularly remarkable.
Here, the controversy played in their favor too. From people who have seen it, it seems to have enough buttkicking to be enjoyable but that's about it. But thanks the the controversy, people talk about it, are curious, etc... so they go watch that particular generic superhero movie. Too bad it eclipsed Alita, which is also a superhero-ish movie with a strong female lead, a much better one IMHO.
"Suggesting that a sad, extremely vocal minority of idiots on the internet don't actually matter in the slightest."
We know, but we still hate it.
Stupid movie gets bad review but also makes tons of money. OUTRAGE. If you see this movie you are supporting all that is wrong with our culture. OUTRAGE. If you hate this movie you are a sexist bigot. OUTRAGE. I am soon outraged that someone made a movie I had no intention of seeing. On top of that a bunch of meanies rated poorly! To too it all of it made lots of money showing those basement dwellers who's who. I'm so OUTRAGED. This shouldn't be allowed to happen. Twitter will hear of this.
The Last Jedi did decent as well but long term it really hurt the brand. My son and I have yet to see Solo because of how bad the last jedi was....I can see the same happening because of Captain Marvel...and why is it when someone on the left hears something they dont like its always trolls....
I'd rather watch paint dry than another dolled up rip of of the same movie for the 100'th time. I don't care about the gender aspect or anything else, I would just like it if the adult audience would grow up and stop going to these pointless children's movies.
WW wasn't the lead, Cpt Kirk was. THAT'S why it's ok to say that it's a "good" female lead movie. She was a co-star at best.
Oh fuck off! You might be a 6 digit, but you ain't THAT LOW of a 6 digit to remember those days. GTFO, poser!
And The Last Jedi had the seventh-biggest opening weekend of all time (and third-biggest domestically, while CM barely made the top 20).
Incidentally, Avatar is still the highest-grossing movie of all time by a long way, yet it ended up almost completely disappearing from the public consciousness within a year after release.
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..on a copy from the internet, a decent one also, and the movie sucked.
Hollywood industry is laundering money with these "blockbusters" and the reason that no one discovered this before the recent years, is because most earlier blockbuster was good. But with these bad "blockbusters" beaing mad, they cant hide it anymore.
If you want to see review bombing, just google "captain marvel" "i'll make it very simple and clear".
... and yes, she was neither hot enough nor smiling enough. All in all, totally mediocre.
is it better than Blade?
This movie is AWFUL...the money it is making has nothing to do with Brie Larson...they could have made SO MUCH more if they had actually found someone likable. This is one of Marvel's worst.
https://youtu.be/9pQNYeOEFJc
Even RLM takes offence from Brie Larsen.....
You should be beaten, raped, and thrown in the gutter. There's your male privilege for you. Now, fucking killl yourself you worthless piece of garbage. May all that is unholy fall upon you and grind you into the worthless shit that you are! Fuck off!
— the pathetic living punchline that is impersonating gerald butler
Fat fuck's best skill is projection.
I'm sorry that your retarded uncle molested you while you were watching Children's Television Workshop and Mister Rogers. That must've been traumatic. But, please, don't take it out on other children. Get help now.
— the pathetic living punchline that calls itself gerald butler
Haha. Now you are just wishing. You wish you could suck your own dick. But being a fat fuck means you cant even see your own dick, much less suck it.
As I am not a fat fuck like yourself I could suck my own dick if I wanted to. But as I am not a fat fuck like yourself I've got a beautiful woman who takes care of that on the reg. A tubolard like you just plain old sucks all by himself.
What's your fucking point? You don't like the words I use? So fucking what. I could give a rats ass what you think. All the CHILD MOLESTERS USING STOLEN IDENTITIES who can't be bothered to put their names to their words can fuck themselves. Also, you fucking pieces of shit who want to dictate what language people can use can fuck yourselves too. You are my mortal enemy. The time has come for violence. You and yours are on one side me and those who value freedom of expression are on the other. You seek to undermine democracy and freedom by restricting speech. I will oppose you. Violently if necessary. Simple as that. This is a war. You will lose.
— the pathetic living punchline that is impersonating gerald butler
weak
Yawn. Please stop eating your own shit! It's nasty. Stop molesting children! You can't hide behind anonymity you worthless coward.
— the pathetic living punchline that is impersonating gerald butler
weak.