Actually, as much as I think Michael Bay is possibly the most inept and visually retarded filmmaker of all time, I'd probably watch it if Vince Offer was a major character.
I have no problem with him trying, though I think it's a scam. But LEO ain't cheap, and then there's all the energy to get decent acceleration, and then there's building a craft that can sustain people for a considerable length of time. Half a million bucks is pure bullshit. Can't be done. I wouldn't believe it for half a billion, but that's certainly more believable than half a million. If that's the case, my net worth, if I cashed it all in, would be almost enough to get me to Mars, and I can tell you this, I wouldn't be sitting here right now:)
Yes. He's the one that ordered development of missile defense... except... wait... he wasn't. This all began under Reagan (I'll wager it's certainly been considered earlier). So WTF with Obama? I don't understand this blaming of the current president for technology that's been under development for the last three or four of them.
It's an obscenely idiotic claim. We're talking about something that would, no matter which way you cut it, cost billions. It's not even a vaguely believable line of bullcrap, but doubtless he'll scam some moron.
Just to clarify here. From my old days on evolution newsgroups, OECs generally were considered to be people who believed in an old Earth, but believed humans were only a few thousand years old.
Because it isn't for laymen. I go out to the library and get a book on geology and planet formation for laymen, it isn't going to use obviously incorrect language to describe an event. It is going to say "the atmosphere was hazy and the sun was not visible until such-and-such-a-time". You know that I know that.
The Bible's terms, if I take your interpretation, are bad word choices. The sun existed before the planet, and green plants could not have lived in a hazy reducing atmosphere that blocked out a good chunk of the spectra, humans bred domesticated animals (and thus they came AFTER humans), and even a liberal interpretation that includes the wild progenitors of cattle, pigs and the like, well, guess what, they evolved in the Pleistocene just like humans did.
Look, if it somehow helps your faith to believe that Genesis is some sort of a Evolution For Bronze Age Dummies, but I doubt you're going to get much traction not only with miserable non-believers like myself, but even with many theologians, who would find the whole exercise misses the point of Genesis, and only creates an ever increasing number of problems as one goes forward in trying to force the Bible to become a science text.
Except your forgetting that the sun was created after the vegetation in Genesis, and one has to do some artful footwork to make any of it actually coincide to science. This idea that it's just dumbed down cosmology, geology and biology doesn't really work, because the creative order is incorrect and why couldn't even a Bronze Age individual understand, when things were put in layman's terms, the gist of Big Bang cosmology and evolution?
To my mind, the Genesis story more owes its heritage to Sumero-Akkadian sources than to any Divine Creation for Dummies.
My step-mother was a complete lunatic and religious fanatic who used to tell everyone that dinosaur bones were put in the ground by Satan to encourage disbelief and heretical interpretations of the Bible. Fun lady.
Other than invoking a strange variant of the Adam and Eve story, you sound more like a Theistic Evolutionist to me. Can't really swallow the whole "Adam and Eve were separate creations" bit, but then again, I can't buy the "Jesus rose from the grave after being dead for three days" bit either, so I see no point to get too uptight about it.
I'll wager not too many YECs, I've seen a few that are probably legit (largely because they were clearly cribbing quotes from ICR and AIG literature). Definitely a few OECs and IDers have posted here.
You know, if your dad catches you using his computer to type this kind of racist trash, he's probably going to kick you out and then you'll finally have to get a job. I know, you're almost at 40 and figured if you could just keep cruising you could go straight from your parents' basement into a retirement home.
Ah well, there's always the underpass, and that strange homeless guy that keeps calling you "Shirley" and going at it to something in his pocket whenever you come back from the 7-11 with a Slurpee. It may seem strange now, but he's as close to security as you're ever going to get again.
Oh noos! The gubberment paid tax dollars for knowledge. I'm gonna go burn an effigy of our fake Nigerian Nigra president and jack off to pichurs of Ron Paul.
It would be enough to vacate the riding, not enough to unseat the Tories. And if the party paid for it, it will be fined, whoever was responsible could face jail time. You can be sure the senior leadership would not have been told, plausible deniability and all that. The Tories are there until 2015, I'm afraid.
To find 31 ridings void would mean you would have to find substantial evidence of vote suppression. We're talking about hundreds if not thousands per riding. As of yet there is no evidence that that many people were prevented from voting.
I'm not defending the Tories here, I'm just saying that we have no evidence that the effect was that huge. I'll wager we won't see more than a handful of ridings where Elections Canada will find sufficient evidence to vacate ridings.
I'm not disputing that there were some close ridings, and that may mean results have to be vacated. I just don't see how it's going to be enough to kill the Tory majority.
They're doing exactly the same thing that our own ancestors did in the 18th century when the Industrial Revolution kicked into high gear. They went and worked in deplorable conditions (far worse than anything at Foxconn) in the hopes of creating a better life for their children. It took a while, and ultimately governments were forced to get involved and put limits on hours per day, child labor and so forth, but in the end, by the middle of the 19th century you began to see the middle class forming, and it was the middle class that ultimately began imposing its will on the political classes.
I don't think there's a way around this. I don't think there's a way to go from agrarian society straight into industrial society. The Soviets and the Chinese tried it, and by and large it failed (think Great Leap Forward here, probably responsible for more deaths than any other single policy in human history). The way it's happening in China is, to one extent or another, exactly how it happened elsewhere. At some point, doubtless, the scales will tip and the middle class in China will want the political power that is commensurate to their economic power.
Yes the Governor General could, but he won't, not unless he were to be presented with a sufficiently compelling case that the calls in fact caused a completely invalid result. To invoke the Reserve Powers prematurely would only serve to bring his office and his personal judgment into question. The power to dissolve Parliament without the advice of the Prime Minister or without a vote of no confidence is there for the most extreme of circumstances, and as bad as this is, it's nowhere near that point yet, and frankly, I have my doubts it is severe enough for that to happen. Beyond that, if it is that severe, Elections Canada has the power to vacate the results in those ridings, the Tory MPs in those ridings would lose their seats, the Tories would lose their majority and I think it pretty likely that Parliament itself would solve the problem by bringing down the Government at the earliest opportunity.
Yup. I think if it goes much further, it will likely go over the top of the Sponsorship Scandal that ultimately destroyed the Liberals.
Stupid fucking Conservatives, they were actually gaining some momentum. They probably would still have had a majority in the last election (if somewhat slimmer), but now they're getting buried in this, and that nasty piece of work Del Mastro is making it worse every times he opens his mouth.
Exactly. Political parties have built a blank cheque into the privacy legislation both at the Federal level and in pretty much every Province as well. There's been no big shit-storms from the Opposition parties either, because they benefit from it. This is all the politicians, regardless of affiliation or ideology, getting together and deciding to allowing themselves to compile databases with probably the most sensitive and important information one can gather on a voter; who their preference is. Frankly, what is the point of a private voting cubicle, if every party out there is completely free to determine who you're likely to vote for (or at least against). It violates at the most fundamental level the right to a person to vote with confidence that his choice is completely private, and yet the only issue anyone seems to have is that apparently the wrong people got a hold of the list, and not the fact that a political party is even allowed to compile such a list.
The extent of the calls suggests otherwise, that CIMS was used. It's beyond belief to imagine that independently several Tory campaigns compiled lists of voters sufficiently accurate to be able to make misleading calls directed at non-Tory voters, all being done at the same time.
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Actually, as much as I think Michael Bay is possibly the most inept and visually retarded filmmaker of all time, I'd probably watch it if Vince Offer was a major character.
I have no problem with him trying, though I think it's a scam. But LEO ain't cheap, and then there's all the energy to get decent acceleration, and then there's building a craft that can sustain people for a considerable length of time. Half a million bucks is pure bullshit. Can't be done. I wouldn't believe it for half a billion, but that's certainly more believable than half a million. If that's the case, my net worth, if I cashed it all in, would be almost enough to get me to Mars, and I can tell you this, I wouldn't be sitting here right now :)
Yes. He's the one that ordered development of missile defense... except... wait... he wasn't. This all began under Reagan (I'll wager it's certainly been considered earlier). So WTF with Obama? I don't understand this blaming of the current president for technology that's been under development for the last three or four of them.
It's an obscenely idiotic claim. We're talking about something that would, no matter which way you cut it, cost billions. It's not even a vaguely believable line of bullcrap, but doubtless he'll scam some moron.
Just to clarify here. From my old days on evolution newsgroups, OECs generally were considered to be people who believed in an old Earth, but believed humans were only a few thousand years old.
Because it isn't for laymen. I go out to the library and get a book on geology and planet formation for laymen, it isn't going to use obviously incorrect language to describe an event. It is going to say "the atmosphere was hazy and the sun was not visible until such-and-such-a-time". You know that I know that.
The Bible's terms, if I take your interpretation, are bad word choices. The sun existed before the planet, and green plants could not have lived in a hazy reducing atmosphere that blocked out a good chunk of the spectra, humans bred domesticated animals (and thus they came AFTER humans), and even a liberal interpretation that includes the wild progenitors of cattle, pigs and the like, well, guess what, they evolved in the Pleistocene just like humans did.
Look, if it somehow helps your faith to believe that Genesis is some sort of a Evolution For Bronze Age Dummies, but I doubt you're going to get much traction not only with miserable non-believers like myself, but even with many theologians, who would find the whole exercise misses the point of Genesis, and only creates an ever increasing number of problems as one goes forward in trying to force the Bible to become a science text.
Except your forgetting that the sun was created after the vegetation in Genesis, and one has to do some artful footwork to make any of it actually coincide to science. This idea that it's just dumbed down cosmology, geology and biology doesn't really work, because the creative order is incorrect and why couldn't even a Bronze Age individual understand, when things were put in layman's terms, the gist of Big Bang cosmology and evolution?
To my mind, the Genesis story more owes its heritage to Sumero-Akkadian sources than to any Divine Creation for Dummies.
My step-mother was a complete lunatic and religious fanatic who used to tell everyone that dinosaur bones were put in the ground by Satan to encourage disbelief and heretical interpretations of the Bible. Fun lady.
Other than invoking a strange variant of the Adam and Eve story, you sound more like a Theistic Evolutionist to me. Can't really swallow the whole "Adam and Eve were separate creations" bit, but then again, I can't buy the "Jesus rose from the grave after being dead for three days" bit either, so I see no point to get too uptight about it.
How about assraped by Big Blue. Much more frightening concept. "I'm helium cooled, biatch!"
I'll wager not too many YECs, I've seen a few that are probably legit (largely because they were clearly cribbing quotes from ICR and AIG literature). Definitely a few OECs and IDers have posted here.
You know, if your dad catches you using his computer to type this kind of racist trash, he's probably going to kick you out and then you'll finally have to get a job. I know, you're almost at 40 and figured if you could just keep cruising you could go straight from your parents' basement into a retirement home.
Ah well, there's always the underpass, and that strange homeless guy that keeps calling you "Shirley" and going at it to something in his pocket whenever you come back from the 7-11 with a Slurpee. It may seem strange now, but he's as close to security as you're ever going to get again.
If you're hosting it, Wil, that's already one goal shot straight to hell.
Oh noos! The gubberment paid tax dollars for knowledge. I'm gonna go burn an effigy of our fake Nigerian Nigra president and jack off to pichurs of Ron Paul.
It would be enough to vacate the riding, not enough to unseat the Tories. And if the party paid for it, it will be fined, whoever was responsible could face jail time. You can be sure the senior leadership would not have been told, plausible deniability and all that. The Tories are there until 2015, I'm afraid.
Except you're new user agreement will strip away the right to sue in favor of arbitration... thanks a lot SCOTUS.
To find 31 ridings void would mean you would have to find substantial evidence of vote suppression. We're talking about hundreds if not thousands per riding. As of yet there is no evidence that that many people were prevented from voting.
I'm not defending the Tories here, I'm just saying that we have no evidence that the effect was that huge. I'll wager we won't see more than a handful of ridings where Elections Canada will find sufficient evidence to vacate ridings.
I'm not disputing that there were some close ridings, and that may mean results have to be vacated. I just don't see how it's going to be enough to kill the Tory majority.
They're doing exactly the same thing that our own ancestors did in the 18th century when the Industrial Revolution kicked into high gear. They went and worked in deplorable conditions (far worse than anything at Foxconn) in the hopes of creating a better life for their children. It took a while, and ultimately governments were forced to get involved and put limits on hours per day, child labor and so forth, but in the end, by the middle of the 19th century you began to see the middle class forming, and it was the middle class that ultimately began imposing its will on the political classes.
I don't think there's a way around this. I don't think there's a way to go from agrarian society straight into industrial society. The Soviets and the Chinese tried it, and by and large it failed (think Great Leap Forward here, probably responsible for more deaths than any other single policy in human history). The way it's happening in China is, to one extent or another, exactly how it happened elsewhere. At some point, doubtless, the scales will tip and the middle class in China will want the political power that is commensurate to their economic power.
Seven hundred is not nearly enough. In one riding yes, across 31 ridings, no.
That's what your mom said in the delivery room.
Yes the Governor General could, but he won't, not unless he were to be presented with a sufficiently compelling case that the calls in fact caused a completely invalid result. To invoke the Reserve Powers prematurely would only serve to bring his office and his personal judgment into question. The power to dissolve Parliament without the advice of the Prime Minister or without a vote of no confidence is there for the most extreme of circumstances, and as bad as this is, it's nowhere near that point yet, and frankly, I have my doubts it is severe enough for that to happen. Beyond that, if it is that severe, Elections Canada has the power to vacate the results in those ridings, the Tory MPs in those ridings would lose their seats, the Tories would lose their majority and I think it pretty likely that Parliament itself would solve the problem by bringing down the Government at the earliest opportunity.
Yup. I think if it goes much further, it will likely go over the top of the Sponsorship Scandal that ultimately destroyed the Liberals.
Stupid fucking Conservatives, they were actually gaining some momentum. They probably would still have had a majority in the last election (if somewhat slimmer), but now they're getting buried in this, and that nasty piece of work Del Mastro is making it worse every times he opens his mouth.
Exactly. Political parties have built a blank cheque into the privacy legislation both at the Federal level and in pretty much every Province as well. There's been no big shit-storms from the Opposition parties either, because they benefit from it. This is all the politicians, regardless of affiliation or ideology, getting together and deciding to allowing themselves to compile databases with probably the most sensitive and important information one can gather on a voter; who their preference is. Frankly, what is the point of a private voting cubicle, if every party out there is completely free to determine who you're likely to vote for (or at least against). It violates at the most fundamental level the right to a person to vote with confidence that his choice is completely private, and yet the only issue anyone seems to have is that apparently the wrong people got a hold of the list, and not the fact that a political party is even allowed to compile such a list.
The extent of the calls suggests otherwise, that CIMS was used. It's beyond belief to imagine that independently several Tory campaigns compiled lists of voters sufficiently accurate to be able to make misleading calls directed at non-Tory voters, all being done at the same time.