Apples to Oranges as even a circa 2001 P3 will run rings around the CPU in the Pi and I can state for a fact the average 512Mb system still in use is a P4 between 2.4Ghz-3.4GHz, which will totally curbstomp the Pi in any task you can think of.
RAM size alone does not a system make and the Pi has a pretty shitty Broadcom chip which does cut its performance by a great amount. Of course with several of the Pi developers being Broadcom employees this isn't surprising, they were probably given orders to clear out the warehouse of those lame duck chips. Is there anybody but the Pi even using that particular Broadcom chip? It reminds me of how Intel made MSFT hobble the Vista launch with the "Vista capable" bullshit just so they could unload those crippled 9xx chipsets before folks realized how truly weak and behind the curve they really were, because just like in that case you have the corp hobbling performance for sake of the bottom line.
Bite me! The choices in my state were 1.- Fourth generation old money politician that sucks the corporate cock or 2.- A first generation corporate cocksucker whose entire platform was "I hate Obama". Personally I would have voted for Satan before voting for either of those two clowns but since my choice was A or B? I chose not to waste an hour's worth of my precious time on either as they were BOTH against the interests of the people!
Its dumbasses like you that think "As long as you are voting for the lesser of two evils you are making a difference" but ya know what? The lesser of two evils? STILL EVIL. What you are doing is as stupid as the guy who throws 10k on a game of three card monty thinking "If I play long enough I'll find the lady" no you won't because ITS RIGGED DUMBASS! You can't win a crooked game and the corps have rigged this system so badly its simply unsalvageable. All you can do now is grab as much as you can and wait for the now inevitable collapse which will happen when the financial bubble blown by the government bursts. Notice the chart? See the MASSIVE hockeystick? When the 29 crash happened we had 129% of GDP in the market, today? 430% and rising rapidly. The time of deflating the bubble safely is long past, it would throw the US into a 20 year depression and no politician is gonna do that so they'll kick the can until it pops.
So go right ahead and waste your time, all you are doing is deciding which pigs get to feed at the trough before the mash goes sour THAT IS ALL.
Sadly this is one of the give aways of the so called "social justice warrior", blatant hypocrisy. Using money to buy elections is bad....unless its a left winger doing it then it is good. Racism is bad, treating people as anything less than equals or judging by the color of their skin instead of the content of their character is bad....unless its affirmative action then its good.
If you wanna know why the left lost so bad it was talking down to the voters and pretending their blatant hypocrisy wouldn't stink like a portapotty in August. Say what you want about the right but they don't pretend to be anything other than what they are,whereas the real left wingers have a VERY nasty habit of taking that "big mommy" tone and acting like the voters are too stupid to notice when they are being obvious hypocrites.
Sheeeit, even the guys that build X86 chips can't design software that makes using just a handful of X86 cores as easy to use as writing for just one core, and he expects them to magically come up with libraries and compilers that will seamlessly switch between dozens of specialized cores, probably hundreds of times per second depending on the task?
Sorry I got Apollo and US Gold confused, but to be fair we ARE talking about 32 years ago! The local Magic Mart had a bunch of their games along with plenty by the other fly by night companies but fuck it we bought 'em all, it was just a dime a game after all! It wasn't hard to get a dime's worth of lulz out of even the shit carts! We ended up with so many we were using shit carts to shim tables, hell one of my buds melted a hole in the middle of some and mounted little ashtrays in em, why not? We had mountains of the things.
Except if we get this particular question "wrong" it will hand billions of dollars to banksters like Goldman Sachs for some magic beans...err... carbon default swaps, and at the end of the day it will have as much affect on the actual climate as snake oil has on your health. It'll let a handful in power pull yet another reverse robin hood while going "tighten your belt peasant,we need this wealth to save teh eaarf!"
I find it telling that the biggest pusher of this crap and trade shit is Rev Al Gore, a man of farts around in a single person Lear jet, has a fleet of SUVs he travels in, and goes home to a McMansion that uses more power in a week than a dozen single family homes uses in a year...but its okay, see? he pays himself indulgences from his own company so that don't count! LOL its as insane as moving money from your left to right pocket, calling it a "donation" and getting a fucking tax break for doing so LOL!
So in other words the massive egos are butthurt that in a FOSS environment the USERS get a say in things?
Frankly its asses like this that will end up making a Debian fork successful, because its classic "We know what is good for you, you filthy peasant" top down management bullshit that treats the users as ignorant children. As one poster on a previous thread put it "Linux is becoming the shit I left Windows to get away from". Its attitudes like his that simply prove that poster correct.
Ironically the power seems to have shifted to Windows users this round, as by exercising the power of the wallet and refusing to take Windows 8 MSFT quietly showed Steve "we'll ignore the users to make bad apple clones at higher prices with less features" Balmer the door and with Windows 10 is giving the users what they asked for with Win 8, a Windows 7 with more speed and support for the latest tech. Compare this to the Linux side where Red Hat is basically pulling a coup and taking over the whole show, with many on the Debian board being ex RH and Ubuntu employees, posters are being banned, threads erased, and Poettering is trying to compare opposition to systemd with trolling and answering legitimate fears with insults and attacks.
Considering that Red Hat gets the majority of its money from the US gov I'd say the fact that those in charge are trying to derail conversations by using emotional trigger words like "toxic" and calling names of those that dissent, as well as all the burying and erasing of conversations should throw up a HUGE red flag and makes me wonder if having systemd tied into more and more as a huge single point of failure isn't by design. If RH truly thinks their way is better let it sink or swim on the merits, not because all dissent was crushed.
They are using the "sell at a loss and make it up on volume" model and call me crazy but in the long run? That's just not a healthy model to have. Sure as long as Wall Street is willing to gamble that maybe somebody you'll figure out how to turn all those people into cash you can keep it rollin but eventually the investors are gonna want a ROI.
He is probably remembering the fact that we had an AC scumbag a few years back post links to CP pics as his idea of a Rickroll, those that didn't have link readability on their browsers got to see CP involving an 8 year old so I really can't say I blame the guy for not wanting to take the chance.
The problem is, at least from what I've seen at the shop but posters here indicate is faaaar from out of the norm, is that like OCZ Zalman is one of those companies you buy from ONCE and then vow to never buy from again!
Look at the posts above and below you and you'll quickly see a pattern, they weren't having to "prop up other divisions" as you put it because their cooling was junk with shitty fans, unground heatpipes, they cut every corner when it came to quality to maximize the bottom line and have made the name into another Deathstar or again, OCZ.
So while I could see one of the competitors buying some of the designs to use under their own branding I really don't see Zalman as a cooling company staying on the market, I know I wouldn't buy another one of their products if you paid me, its just not worth the work you have to sink into grinding the bottoms and replacing the fans when you can get better quality for cheaper from the competition. I have a feeling when the actual sales figures get released its gonna be warehouses filled with unsold products, they really have just burnt too many bridges with shoddy quality in the past.
I guess that is what they get for trying to go "Gangnam Style"....sorry couldn't resist, bad old hairy;-)
But yeah that is why I avoided their shit at the shop, I picked up a couple of their heatsinks on sale and found 'em to be nothing but unfinished crap, pipes not ground correctly that wouldn't set flush with the CPU, fans louder and shittier than on a Worst Buy Special, these were the ones originally in the $50-$70 range but when you looked at the things? Frankly I've seen $15 units by other companies with better quality, they were real junk.
This is why I recommend the Coolermaster units, they have a heatsink at just about every price point and even their $15 units are well built and work better than stock when paired with a little arctic silver. I especially like the N520 which I use on my personal PC and those of my family as it fits nearly any case and is pretty quiet for a dual fan cooler,and for the budget builds the Hyper TX3 is quite nice and works well.
But if anybody is planning on buying Zalman if they get dumped cheap? just be ready to do some sanding, you'll probably want to change out the fans for less noisy ones if possible as well. I should have known that if they were cutting corners on their mid priced units and allowing work that shoddy to leave the factory something hinky must have been up, but seeing them go tits up really don't surprise me, they were the OCZ of heatsinks.
Besides as somebody who was in retail at the I can tell ya that not that many of them ere returned by stores, many of the middle men distributors started going tits up around that time and caused a mass panic which in turn caused the bubble to burst and caused the big crash of 84. I was grabbing up Atari carts at 10 for a buck and Coleco at 4 for a buck at the time, not to mention formerly $80+ handhelds at $3-$5 a pop so i was using the pay from my part time job to haul out bags full of the stuff!
For those that wonder why the crash happened it was a bubble, no different from DotBomb or any other bubble and just like those it was based on bad business practices, in this case "stock and swap". For those that have never heard of it here is how S&S worked....because retailers were SERIOUSLY leery of stocking a "toy" with such a high cost of entry AND high cost of consumables the distributors came up with a new business model...you stock our stuff and if it don't sell by the end of the quarter we give you new stuff. This way the retailer didn't worry about not knowing the difference between the A-Team and Zaxxon, because if they picked some losers this round no worries they will get NEW titles at the end of the quarter until the stock is all sold, why we can't lose!
And THAT is what bit them right on the ass, that "we can't lose" attitude brought on by S&S. From 77-82 they kept making bigger and bigger piles of money so by the end of 82 the local Magic Mart I helped out part time (anybody remember Magic Mart?) even though we were in a town of less than 15k they were stocking 5 consoles and over 300 titles, not including handhelds, we are talking close to 100k if not over at a time when you could get a 5 year old car for less than a thousand, so we are talking serious money involved here. Well all that money brought in your fly by night companies (just like DotBomb) like US Gold, companies that had no business in gaming like Quaker Oats jumped in with their own dev house, it was nuts. Well it wasn't long after that S&S fell down, some of the middle men distributors started failing about that time because they took the old stock to companies like US Gold for new carts only to find empty buildings, and when the retailers found they couldn't trade their old stock for new and that half of their inventory was "Skeet Shooting" style dreck they went full blown panic and started dumping everything at fire sale prices hoping to recover a little green before everybody took a bath.
Well its no wonder so many game companies went tits up then, you think I was paying $30 for a new cart when I was getting 100 Atari for $10, every Coleco they had for $2.50 and 4 handhelds for $10? Not a chance in hell, I was buying games by the shopping cart buddy! A few of my friends was smart enough to listen to me and snatch the Coleco with the Atari add-on (normally $150, fire sale $15) and we loaded the hell up! But it was NOT the shitty E.T. game that caused the crash, it was bad business practices combined with a "can't lose!" attitude, the same thing that caused the DotBomb and the financial bubble and the real estate bubble and probably every other bubble in history.
And people wonder why I say we are going backwards and nobody should use phones and tablets as their main devices...well here ya go! You can't even get the shitting thing updated because nothing is standardized, everything is locked, and the true owners of the devices, the carriers, have not a single fuck to give.
Stop playing their bullshit games folks, get you a phone in the $100-$300 range out of pocket and go with the prepaids, at least then YOU control the device and can do whatever the hell you want, and more and more of the prepaids have rooted phones OOTB ready for you to run the ROM of your choice!
You make a funny but getting upset at the POTUS is like getting mad at Ronald McDonald when you get a bad cheeseburger, the real power has been in the hands of the lobbyists drafting the laws since the end of WWII if not earlier. Even when the president focuses on a specific issue like Obama with healthcare by the time the lobbyists get done its so watered down and so filled with backroom bribes it becomes a shadow of its former self.
You are most welcome. I've found CCS to be the most "chrome like" when it comes to the UI while Dragon sticks with their more conservative UI so its really just a matter of personal taste, both are really solid browsers without all the phoning home of Google so I usually give CCS to those that have used Chrome in the past and Dragon to those that prefer more of a menu driven UI and supplement both with PaleMoon X64 to give the customer a choice of Chromium or Gecko engine. I've found this covers the most users while giving less BS and headaches than Chrome and Firefox.
So glad you found it useful and if you have any problems? Be sure to register and use the excellent Comodo forums, they give you a direct line to the developers and they are quick to respond. You'd be surprised how quickly an issue can get resolved when you get PMs from one of the guys actually working on the thing, really cuts through the BS and gets problems solved.
So let me see if I understand you correctly...you are honestly arguing that reading the power off the wall using killawatt, a widely respected and recognized tool, that they are for some reason giving false data that gives AMD a break? Because the only other way to interpret what you wrote is to somehow accept that AMD is able to magically pull power from somewhere other than the mains.
As for Intel "beating" they also did a test using an (at the time) two versions behind Phenom II X6 versus the latest i5 doing video transcodes, the difference? Less than 2 minutes or about 7%. I DO hope you aren't actually buying the benchmarks which are as rigged as quack.exe...are you? Cinebench was just caught running "if AMD increase the loop" rigging their benchmark....wanna guess who the #1 partner of Cinebench is? Similar benchmarks like SiSandra have in recent years also been caught rigging and Intel is currently under investigation in the EU for precisely this very thing, paying benchmark companies to rig test scores in favor of their chips, and this isn't even mentioning the "Intel Cripple Compiler" which to this very day puts out crippled code if the CPUID doesn't return Genuine Intel. How crippled you ask? By simply changing the CPUID on a Via Nano from Centaur Hauls to Genuine Intel one researcher had his score in 3 popular benchmarks magically "improve" by nearly 30%!.
Now if you aren't a foolish person, which I assume you are not, the question you should be asking yourself is this...If Intel has such a huge lead why do they feel they need to rig scores? Why risk billions in fines and investigations when they are soooo far ahead? Why would they spend over 30 million in "partnership" money on Cinebench alone if they were delivering such a huge curbstomp to their competition? It doesn't make any sense does it?
But it DOES make sense if what Techreview and other reviewers have found using real world testing to be true, which I've seen bore out in the shop, which is that the real difference between Intel and AMD is only 7%-12% and VERY workload specific! If the workload is almost all single core, like in older video games? Then Intel is about 15% faster, but this is only if you compare i7 to FX 8, a more realistic test at price for price, which would be FX8 versus i5 (or more accurately i3 as the new FX8 chips are selling for less than $140 USD) then you are looking at around 6% on single threaded workloads. This of course evaporates once you start running multithreaded loads where the Vishera cores shine.
So don't buy the bullshit, look up some real world tests and figures. the only way you are gonna get 3 years is if you were to pick the absolute bottom of the line Intel Pentium or even Celeron chips and compared them to the 125w FX8, a comparison that makes absolutely no sense as that would be like comparing a netbook to a gamer rig! The real world tests show what many of us have been saying for years, that the under $200 CPU segment is pretty much all AMD, the bang for the buck just can't be touched. Hell right now you can have the FX6300 at just $109 (that is MSRP, I've seen it as low as $95 on sale) and the new FX8300 is going for less than $150, that puts the FX6 against the Pentium dual and the FX8 against the i3 and I'm sorry but no comparison, you'd have to overclock the shit out of the Intel to get better performance in those price ranges (with one site even cranking the Pentium to nearly 4GHz to beat the FX6 with turbo on) which would blow your "savings" to shit.
And again this is ignoring the real world, where to get a board with the same features as the AMD would blow any savings you might have gained from going with the i3 or Pentium! the last gamer rig I put together at the shop had 4 RAM slots that would hold 32GB of RAM, triple crossfire, 8 pin power for the CPU with heatpipes for the VRM, and 10 USB slots with 2 USB 3, the cost? $82. I'm sorry but to get anything even close on the Intel side would cost over $250, and again there goes your savings!
To steal a line from the Spoony one...BUUUUULLLLLSSSSSSSSHHHHHIIIIITTTTTT!"
TechReview did a test of the AMD octocore versus the middle of the line i5 and for the power bill to make the i5 a better buy would mean you would have to keep the i5 in service FOR EIGHTEEN YEARS!! Using Kilawatt they found the yearly power bill difference? less than the cost of a deep dish at Little Caesar's pizza. And again this was using the 125w octocore against the middle of the road i5, with the more common quads and hexacores you aren't even saving the cost of a 2 liter Diet Coke a year.
So quite buying bullshit and try looking up some actual numbers and you'll find that Intel TDP numbers are based on "theoretical loads" while AMD tends to set their numbers higher than what you'd get IRL to allow for OCing. I've found this to be true as the system I'm typing this on has an excellent set of OCing tools and according to the board the Phenom II X6 is only puling between 6.8w and 14w on average with basic web surfing and YouTube watching, the highest I've managed to get this supposedly "95w" chip is 68w and that was slamming all 6 cores for more than 4 hours doing X264 transcodes. I'm sure i could get to 95w if I wanted to crank the clocks but why bother?
You make a funny but frankly there realy is no reason for AMD to follow Intel down the rabbit hole of ever lower nm sizes (which if rumors are true is ending up with worse yields and lower clocks do to leakage with each rev) because what Intel doesn't want to admit that AMD seems to have accepted is that CPUs have gone waaay past "good enough" and into insanely overpowered for all but the handful that are doing jobs that stress a CPU to its limit and those folks would be better off with a dual socket workstation anyway.
What jobs do Joe and Jane Average have that won't be well served by a C2Q or Phenom X4 from 7 years ago? None, not a damned thing, in fact many can get by just fine on a C2D or Athlon X2 and never notice any difference because they just aren't stressing the chips. Hell its even true of the gamers who traditionally were the first adopters, with the first gen i5s and Phenom II X4s and X6s able to play pretty much any game out there when paired with a $150 GPU. When the MHz war was in full swing I was getting rid of my PC for a new one every other year with a major upgrade at the halfway point, but now why bother? I got 8GB of RAM, a 6 core CPU, a board that will take up to 4 GPUs in crossfire and 3TB of storage for my games so why waste money when it'll already play everything and do everything I want?
This is why I'm not worried about what Intel does even though I'm an AMD exclusive shop, because a dual or quad APU laptop or an APU or CPU based desktop does everything my customers want it to do and will last them for many years. this is why I've branched into home networking and HTPC setups as the days of the 3 year upgrade cycle are well and truly over. Intel can fill their bins with bad chips chasing 0nm all they want, the simple fact of the matter is computers have become like washers and dryers, no need to replace 'em until the previous one dies. I predict ARM will be in the same boat in 2 years or less as like X86 they are ramming into the thermal/power wall and soon won't have anywhere else to go, hence why we are seeing 8 core phones and tablets and the local Walmart is selling dual core tablets for $48. ARM devices are already becoming overpowered compared to the jobs ordinary folks have so all they can do is throw more cores or lower the prices. But that will only take you so far before you are in the same boat as X86, more cores than most need and prices so cheap everybody has more than they can use.
Informative? Really mods? When we are talking about DRM ENCRYPTED EBOOKS and NOT standard PDF files? Will Chrome open encrypted eBooks? Nope, not a chance so the fact that Chrome has a reader is about as "informative" as having somebody say "I have a kite!" when you are talking about the high prices of airplane flight.
If you don't like Chrome's "evil" as you put it you might want to try Comodo Chromium Secure which is just Chromium with a few security enhancements like the ability to scan a page with Comodo Web Inspector and the option of using Comodo DNS in the browser to block malware.
Between this and Comodo Dragon I'd say CCS is more "Chrome like" while Dragon is more conservative with the UI, but both work quite well and unlike Chrome everything is entirely optional. Oh and so far every Chrome extension and theme has worked without a hitch. So if you think Chrome is "evil" you DO have options.
Bullshit.NET is a LOT more obtuse than VB6, just go to Wikipedia and compare the Hello World programs of the two languages. VB.NET is just another clusterfuck from Balmer, another hamfisted way of trying to force a language nobody wanted onto the world by grafting it onto something people DID want and just like Metro its bloated, badly laid out, and is worse in every way than what came before it.
Sorry but there is a reason why years after VB.NET that VB6 was still the #3 business language and VB.NET wasn't even in the top 5, its because.NET sucks.
Hell I was never a "car guy" and had ZERO interest in cars yet whenever i would find their show on i just had to listen, because they were just so fun and had such a great back and forth you couldn't help but like 'em.
To me that is what makes a great entertainer, when you can make even those that don't care about the subject listen in, RIP.
I'll get hate by the "programmers" but I'd argue that what we need is more along the lines of another VB 6 which is what TFA seems to be advocating. The "programmers" can scream all they want but VB with Access did one job and did it VERY well which was allowing anybody to build single function programs quickly and easily. VB code was very human readable, with an "if this then that" kind of structure that most can grasp without effort and with an Access DB being so butt simple to hook up it was insanely easy to develop programs that could input, store, and manipulate data which I've found those that actually need to make tools as opposed to COTS is job #1.
With VB 6 plus Access one can whip off a program in a few hours to do anything from store and retrieve a customer's order history to a CD/DVD catalog program to a program I banged out in a weekend several years ago for a junkyard which allows them to keep up with what cars are on their property and what condition they are in. Last I heard they are still using that and I really can't blame 'em, I still use a VB 6 plus Access program for DVD cataloging as its insanely fast (much faster than a similar program using XML), runs on pretty much anything, and is low on resources, all of which I'd argue you really need in a programming language for laypeople who have no idea about code optimization.
But have you tested it to see if it REALLY gives you 3G speeds? Because I have customers in my area that have tried those kinds of plans and honestly it feels no better than dialup once they hit the cap. We're talking video that does nothing but buffer, audio skips, its like throwing on the brakes and makes it worthless for anything more than checking email.
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Apples to Oranges as even a circa 2001 P3 will run rings around the CPU in the Pi and I can state for a fact the average 512Mb system still in use is a P4 between 2.4Ghz-3.4GHz, which will totally curbstomp the Pi in any task you can think of.
RAM size alone does not a system make and the Pi has a pretty shitty Broadcom chip which does cut its performance by a great amount. Of course with several of the Pi developers being Broadcom employees this isn't surprising, they were probably given orders to clear out the warehouse of those lame duck chips. Is there anybody but the Pi even using that particular Broadcom chip? It reminds me of how Intel made MSFT hobble the Vista launch with the "Vista capable" bullshit just so they could unload those crippled 9xx chipsets before folks realized how truly weak and behind the curve they really were, because just like in that case you have the corp hobbling performance for sake of the bottom line.
Bite me! The choices in my state were 1.- Fourth generation old money politician that sucks the corporate cock or 2.- A first generation corporate cocksucker whose entire platform was "I hate Obama". Personally I would have voted for Satan before voting for either of those two clowns but since my choice was A or B? I chose not to waste an hour's worth of my precious time on either as they were BOTH against the interests of the people!
Its dumbasses like you that think "As long as you are voting for the lesser of two evils you are making a difference" but ya know what? The lesser of two evils? STILL EVIL. What you are doing is as stupid as the guy who throws 10k on a game of three card monty thinking "If I play long enough I'll find the lady" no you won't because ITS RIGGED DUMBASS! You can't win a crooked game and the corps have rigged this system so badly its simply unsalvageable. All you can do now is grab as much as you can and wait for the now inevitable collapse which will happen when the financial bubble blown by the government bursts. Notice the chart? See the MASSIVE hockeystick? When the 29 crash happened we had 129% of GDP in the market, today? 430% and rising rapidly. The time of deflating the bubble safely is long past, it would throw the US into a 20 year depression and no politician is gonna do that so they'll kick the can until it pops.
So go right ahead and waste your time, all you are doing is deciding which pigs get to feed at the trough before the mash goes sour THAT IS ALL.
Sadly this is one of the give aways of the so called "social justice warrior", blatant hypocrisy. Using money to buy elections is bad....unless its a left winger doing it then it is good. Racism is bad, treating people as anything less than equals or judging by the color of their skin instead of the content of their character is bad....unless its affirmative action then its good.
If you wanna know why the left lost so bad it was talking down to the voters and pretending their blatant hypocrisy wouldn't stink like a portapotty in August. Say what you want about the right but they don't pretend to be anything other than what they are,whereas the real left wingers have a VERY nasty habit of taking that "big mommy" tone and acting like the voters are too stupid to notice when they are being obvious hypocrites.
Sheeeit, even the guys that build X86 chips can't design software that makes using just a handful of X86 cores as easy to use as writing for just one core, and he expects them to magically come up with libraries and compilers that will seamlessly switch between dozens of specialized cores, probably hundreds of times per second depending on the task?
Sorry I got Apollo and US Gold confused, but to be fair we ARE talking about 32 years ago! The local Magic Mart had a bunch of their games along with plenty by the other fly by night companies but fuck it we bought 'em all, it was just a dime a game after all! It wasn't hard to get a dime's worth of lulz out of even the shit carts! We ended up with so many we were using shit carts to shim tables, hell one of my buds melted a hole in the middle of some and mounted little ashtrays in em, why not? We had mountains of the things.
Except if we get this particular question "wrong" it will hand billions of dollars to banksters like Goldman Sachs for some magic beans...err... carbon default swaps, and at the end of the day it will have as much affect on the actual climate as snake oil has on your health. It'll let a handful in power pull yet another reverse robin hood while going "tighten your belt peasant,we need this wealth to save teh eaarf!"
I find it telling that the biggest pusher of this crap and trade shit is Rev Al Gore, a man of farts around in a single person Lear jet, has a fleet of SUVs he travels in, and goes home to a McMansion that uses more power in a week than a dozen single family homes uses in a year...but its okay, see? he pays himself indulgences from his own company so that don't count! LOL its as insane as moving money from your left to right pocket, calling it a "donation" and getting a fucking tax break for doing so LOL!
So in other words the massive egos are butthurt that in a FOSS environment the USERS get a say in things?
Frankly its asses like this that will end up making a Debian fork successful, because its classic "We know what is good for you, you filthy peasant" top down management bullshit that treats the users as ignorant children. As one poster on a previous thread put it "Linux is becoming the shit I left Windows to get away from". Its attitudes like his that simply prove that poster correct.
Ironically the power seems to have shifted to Windows users this round, as by exercising the power of the wallet and refusing to take Windows 8 MSFT quietly showed Steve "we'll ignore the users to make bad apple clones at higher prices with less features" Balmer the door and with Windows 10 is giving the users what they asked for with Win 8, a Windows 7 with more speed and support for the latest tech. Compare this to the Linux side where Red Hat is basically pulling a coup and taking over the whole show, with many on the Debian board being ex RH and Ubuntu employees, posters are being banned, threads erased, and Poettering is trying to compare opposition to systemd with trolling and answering legitimate fears with insults and attacks.
Considering that Red Hat gets the majority of its money from the US gov I'd say the fact that those in charge are trying to derail conversations by using emotional trigger words like "toxic" and calling names of those that dissent, as well as all the burying and erasing of conversations should throw up a HUGE red flag and makes me wonder if having systemd tied into more and more as a huge single point of failure isn't by design. If RH truly thinks their way is better let it sink or swim on the merits, not because all dissent was crushed.
They are using the "sell at a loss and make it up on volume" model and call me crazy but in the long run? That's just not a healthy model to have. Sure as long as Wall Street is willing to gamble that maybe somebody you'll figure out how to turn all those people into cash you can keep it rollin but eventually the investors are gonna want a ROI.
He is probably remembering the fact that we had an AC scumbag a few years back post links to CP pics as his idea of a Rickroll, those that didn't have link readability on their browsers got to see CP involving an 8 year old so I really can't say I blame the guy for not wanting to take the chance.
The problem is, at least from what I've seen at the shop but posters here indicate is faaaar from out of the norm, is that like OCZ Zalman is one of those companies you buy from ONCE and then vow to never buy from again!
Look at the posts above and below you and you'll quickly see a pattern, they weren't having to "prop up other divisions" as you put it because their cooling was junk with shitty fans, unground heatpipes, they cut every corner when it came to quality to maximize the bottom line and have made the name into another Deathstar or again, OCZ.
So while I could see one of the competitors buying some of the designs to use under their own branding I really don't see Zalman as a cooling company staying on the market, I know I wouldn't buy another one of their products if you paid me, its just not worth the work you have to sink into grinding the bottoms and replacing the fans when you can get better quality for cheaper from the competition. I have a feeling when the actual sales figures get released its gonna be warehouses filled with unsold products, they really have just burnt too many bridges with shoddy quality in the past.
I guess that is what they get for trying to go "Gangnam Style"....sorry couldn't resist, bad old hairy ;-)
But yeah that is why I avoided their shit at the shop, I picked up a couple of their heatsinks on sale and found 'em to be nothing but unfinished crap, pipes not ground correctly that wouldn't set flush with the CPU, fans louder and shittier than on a Worst Buy Special, these were the ones originally in the $50-$70 range but when you looked at the things? Frankly I've seen $15 units by other companies with better quality, they were real junk.
This is why I recommend the Coolermaster units, they have a heatsink at just about every price point and even their $15 units are well built and work better than stock when paired with a little arctic silver. I especially like the N520 which I use on my personal PC and those of my family as it fits nearly any case and is pretty quiet for a dual fan cooler,and for the budget builds the Hyper TX3 is quite nice and works well.
But if anybody is planning on buying Zalman if they get dumped cheap? just be ready to do some sanding, you'll probably want to change out the fans for less noisy ones if possible as well. I should have known that if they were cutting corners on their mid priced units and allowing work that shoddy to leave the factory something hinky must have been up, but seeing them go tits up really don't surprise me, they were the OCZ of heatsinks.
Besides as somebody who was in retail at the I can tell ya that not that many of them ere returned by stores, many of the middle men distributors started going tits up around that time and caused a mass panic which in turn caused the bubble to burst and caused the big crash of 84. I was grabbing up Atari carts at 10 for a buck and Coleco at 4 for a buck at the time, not to mention formerly $80+ handhelds at $3-$5 a pop so i was using the pay from my part time job to haul out bags full of the stuff!
For those that wonder why the crash happened it was a bubble, no different from DotBomb or any other bubble and just like those it was based on bad business practices, in this case "stock and swap". For those that have never heard of it here is how S&S worked....because retailers were SERIOUSLY leery of stocking a "toy" with such a high cost of entry AND high cost of consumables the distributors came up with a new business model...you stock our stuff and if it don't sell by the end of the quarter we give you new stuff. This way the retailer didn't worry about not knowing the difference between the A-Team and Zaxxon, because if they picked some losers this round no worries they will get NEW titles at the end of the quarter until the stock is all sold, why we can't lose!
And THAT is what bit them right on the ass, that "we can't lose" attitude brought on by S&S. From 77-82 they kept making bigger and bigger piles of money so by the end of 82 the local Magic Mart I helped out part time (anybody remember Magic Mart?) even though we were in a town of less than 15k they were stocking 5 consoles and over 300 titles, not including handhelds, we are talking close to 100k if not over at a time when you could get a 5 year old car for less than a thousand, so we are talking serious money involved here. Well all that money brought in your fly by night companies (just like DotBomb) like US Gold, companies that had no business in gaming like Quaker Oats jumped in with their own dev house, it was nuts. Well it wasn't long after that S&S fell down, some of the middle men distributors started failing about that time because they took the old stock to companies like US Gold for new carts only to find empty buildings, and when the retailers found they couldn't trade their old stock for new and that half of their inventory was "Skeet Shooting" style dreck they went full blown panic and started dumping everything at fire sale prices hoping to recover a little green before everybody took a bath.
Well its no wonder so many game companies went tits up then, you think I was paying $30 for a new cart when I was getting 100 Atari for $10, every Coleco they had for $2.50 and 4 handhelds for $10? Not a chance in hell, I was buying games by the shopping cart buddy! A few of my friends was smart enough to listen to me and snatch the Coleco with the Atari add-on (normally $150, fire sale $15) and we loaded the hell up! But it was NOT the shitty E.T. game that caused the crash, it was bad business practices combined with a "can't lose!" attitude, the same thing that caused the DotBomb and the financial bubble and the real estate bubble and probably every other bubble in history.
And people wonder why I say we are going backwards and nobody should use phones and tablets as their main devices...well here ya go! You can't even get the shitting thing updated because nothing is standardized, everything is locked, and the true owners of the devices, the carriers, have not a single fuck to give.
Stop playing their bullshit games folks, get you a phone in the $100-$300 range out of pocket and go with the prepaids, at least then YOU control the device and can do whatever the hell you want, and more and more of the prepaids have rooted phones OOTB ready for you to run the ROM of your choice!
You make a funny but getting upset at the POTUS is like getting mad at Ronald McDonald when you get a bad cheeseburger, the real power has been in the hands of the lobbyists drafting the laws since the end of WWII if not earlier. Even when the president focuses on a specific issue like Obama with healthcare by the time the lobbyists get done its so watered down and so filled with backroom bribes it becomes a shadow of its former self.
You are most welcome. I've found CCS to be the most "chrome like" when it comes to the UI while Dragon sticks with their more conservative UI so its really just a matter of personal taste, both are really solid browsers without all the phoning home of Google so I usually give CCS to those that have used Chrome in the past and Dragon to those that prefer more of a menu driven UI and supplement both with PaleMoon X64 to give the customer a choice of Chromium or Gecko engine. I've found this covers the most users while giving less BS and headaches than Chrome and Firefox.
So glad you found it useful and if you have any problems? Be sure to register and use the excellent Comodo forums, they give you a direct line to the developers and they are quick to respond. You'd be surprised how quickly an issue can get resolved when you get PMs from one of the guys actually working on the thing, really cuts through the BS and gets problems solved.
So let me see if I understand you correctly...you are honestly arguing that reading the power off the wall using killawatt, a widely respected and recognized tool, that they are for some reason giving false data that gives AMD a break? Because the only other way to interpret what you wrote is to somehow accept that AMD is able to magically pull power from somewhere other than the mains.
As for Intel "beating" they also did a test using an (at the time) two versions behind Phenom II X6 versus the latest i5 doing video transcodes, the difference? Less than 2 minutes or about 7%. I DO hope you aren't actually buying the benchmarks which are as rigged as quack.exe...are you? Cinebench was just caught running "if AMD increase the loop" rigging their benchmark....wanna guess who the #1 partner of Cinebench is? Similar benchmarks like SiSandra have in recent years also been caught rigging and Intel is currently under investigation in the EU for precisely this very thing, paying benchmark companies to rig test scores in favor of their chips, and this isn't even mentioning the "Intel Cripple Compiler" which to this very day puts out crippled code if the CPUID doesn't return Genuine Intel. How crippled you ask? By simply changing the CPUID on a Via Nano from Centaur Hauls to Genuine Intel one researcher had his score in 3 popular benchmarks magically "improve" by nearly 30%!.
Now if you aren't a foolish person, which I assume you are not, the question you should be asking yourself is this...If Intel has such a huge lead why do they feel they need to rig scores? Why risk billions in fines and investigations when they are soooo far ahead? Why would they spend over 30 million in "partnership" money on Cinebench alone if they were delivering such a huge curbstomp to their competition? It doesn't make any sense does it?
But it DOES make sense if what Techreview and other reviewers have found using real world testing to be true, which I've seen bore out in the shop, which is that the real difference between Intel and AMD is only 7%-12% and VERY workload specific! If the workload is almost all single core, like in older video games? Then Intel is about 15% faster, but this is only if you compare i7 to FX 8, a more realistic test at price for price, which would be FX8 versus i5 (or more accurately i3 as the new FX8 chips are selling for less than $140 USD) then you are looking at around 6% on single threaded workloads. This of course evaporates once you start running multithreaded loads where the Vishera cores shine.
So don't buy the bullshit, look up some real world tests and figures. the only way you are gonna get 3 years is if you were to pick the absolute bottom of the line Intel Pentium or even Celeron chips and compared them to the 125w FX8, a comparison that makes absolutely no sense as that would be like comparing a netbook to a gamer rig! The real world tests show what many of us have been saying for years, that the under $200 CPU segment is pretty much all AMD, the bang for the buck just can't be touched. Hell right now you can have the FX6300 at just $109 (that is MSRP, I've seen it as low as $95 on sale) and the new FX8300 is going for less than $150, that puts the FX6 against the Pentium dual and the FX8 against the i3 and I'm sorry but no comparison, you'd have to overclock the shit out of the Intel to get better performance in those price ranges (with one site even cranking the Pentium to nearly 4GHz to beat the FX6 with turbo on) which would blow your "savings" to shit.
And again this is ignoring the real world, where to get a board with the same features as the AMD would blow any savings you might have gained from going with the i3 or Pentium! the last gamer rig I put together at the shop had 4 RAM slots that would hold 32GB of RAM, triple crossfire, 8 pin power for the CPU with heatpipes for the VRM, and 10 USB slots with 2 USB 3, the cost? $82. I'm sorry but to get anything even close on the Intel side would cost over $250, and again there goes your savings!
To steal a line from the Spoony one...BUUUUULLLLLSSSSSSSSHHHHHIIIIITTTTTT!"
TechReview did a test of the AMD octocore versus the middle of the line i5 and for the power bill to make the i5 a better buy would mean you would have to keep the i5 in service FOR EIGHTEEN YEARS!! Using Kilawatt they found the yearly power bill difference? less than the cost of a deep dish at Little Caesar's pizza. And again this was using the 125w octocore against the middle of the road i5, with the more common quads and hexacores you aren't even saving the cost of a 2 liter Diet Coke a year.
So quite buying bullshit and try looking up some actual numbers and you'll find that Intel TDP numbers are based on "theoretical loads" while AMD tends to set their numbers higher than what you'd get IRL to allow for OCing. I've found this to be true as the system I'm typing this on has an excellent set of OCing tools and according to the board the Phenom II X6 is only puling between 6.8w and 14w on average with basic web surfing and YouTube watching, the highest I've managed to get this supposedly "95w" chip is 68w and that was slamming all 6 cores for more than 4 hours doing X264 transcodes. I'm sure i could get to 95w if I wanted to crank the clocks but why bother?
You make a funny but frankly there realy is no reason for AMD to follow Intel down the rabbit hole of ever lower nm sizes (which if rumors are true is ending up with worse yields and lower clocks do to leakage with each rev) because what Intel doesn't want to admit that AMD seems to have accepted is that CPUs have gone waaay past "good enough" and into insanely overpowered for all but the handful that are doing jobs that stress a CPU to its limit and those folks would be better off with a dual socket workstation anyway.
What jobs do Joe and Jane Average have that won't be well served by a C2Q or Phenom X4 from 7 years ago? None, not a damned thing, in fact many can get by just fine on a C2D or Athlon X2 and never notice any difference because they just aren't stressing the chips. Hell its even true of the gamers who traditionally were the first adopters, with the first gen i5s and Phenom II X4s and X6s able to play pretty much any game out there when paired with a $150 GPU. When the MHz war was in full swing I was getting rid of my PC for a new one every other year with a major upgrade at the halfway point, but now why bother? I got 8GB of RAM, a 6 core CPU, a board that will take up to 4 GPUs in crossfire and 3TB of storage for my games so why waste money when it'll already play everything and do everything I want?
This is why I'm not worried about what Intel does even though I'm an AMD exclusive shop, because a dual or quad APU laptop or an APU or CPU based desktop does everything my customers want it to do and will last them for many years. this is why I've branched into home networking and HTPC setups as the days of the 3 year upgrade cycle are well and truly over. Intel can fill their bins with bad chips chasing 0nm all they want, the simple fact of the matter is computers have become like washers and dryers, no need to replace 'em until the previous one dies. I predict ARM will be in the same boat in 2 years or less as like X86 they are ramming into the thermal/power wall and soon won't have anywhere else to go, hence why we are seeing 8 core phones and tablets and the local Walmart is selling dual core tablets for $48. ARM devices are already becoming overpowered compared to the jobs ordinary folks have so all they can do is throw more cores or lower the prices. But that will only take you so far before you are in the same boat as X86, more cores than most need and prices so cheap everybody has more than they can use.
Informative? Really mods? When we are talking about DRM ENCRYPTED EBOOKS and NOT standard PDF files? Will Chrome open encrypted eBooks? Nope, not a chance so the fact that Chrome has a reader is about as "informative" as having somebody say "I have a kite!" when you are talking about the high prices of airplane flight.
If you don't like Chrome's "evil" as you put it you might want to try Comodo Chromium Secure which is just Chromium with a few security enhancements like the ability to scan a page with Comodo Web Inspector and the option of using Comodo DNS in the browser to block malware.
Between this and Comodo Dragon I'd say CCS is more "Chrome like" while Dragon is more conservative with the UI, but both work quite well and unlike Chrome everything is entirely optional. Oh and so far every Chrome extension and theme has worked without a hitch. So if you think Chrome is "evil" you DO have options.
Bullshit .NET is a LOT more obtuse than VB6, just go to Wikipedia and compare the Hello World programs of the two languages. VB.NET is just another clusterfuck from Balmer, another hamfisted way of trying to force a language nobody wanted onto the world by grafting it onto something people DID want and just like Metro its bloated, badly laid out, and is worse in every way than what came before it.
Sorry but there is a reason why years after VB.NET that VB6 was still the #3 business language and VB.NET wasn't even in the top 5, its because .NET sucks.
Hell I was never a "car guy" and had ZERO interest in cars yet whenever i would find their show on i just had to listen, because they were just so fun and had such a great back and forth you couldn't help but like 'em.
To me that is what makes a great entertainer, when you can make even those that don't care about the subject listen in, RIP.
I'll get hate by the "programmers" but I'd argue that what we need is more along the lines of another VB 6 which is what TFA seems to be advocating. The "programmers" can scream all they want but VB with Access did one job and did it VERY well which was allowing anybody to build single function programs quickly and easily. VB code was very human readable, with an "if this then that" kind of structure that most can grasp without effort and with an Access DB being so butt simple to hook up it was insanely easy to develop programs that could input, store, and manipulate data which I've found those that actually need to make tools as opposed to COTS is job #1.
With VB 6 plus Access one can whip off a program in a few hours to do anything from store and retrieve a customer's order history to a CD/DVD catalog program to a program I banged out in a weekend several years ago for a junkyard which allows them to keep up with what cars are on their property and what condition they are in. Last I heard they are still using that and I really can't blame 'em, I still use a VB 6 plus Access program for DVD cataloging as its insanely fast (much faster than a similar program using XML), runs on pretty much anything, and is low on resources, all of which I'd argue you really need in a programming language for laypeople who have no idea about code optimization.
But have you tested it to see if it REALLY gives you 3G speeds? Because I have customers in my area that have tried those kinds of plans and honestly it feels no better than dialup once they hit the cap. We're talking video that does nothing but buffer, audio skips, its like throwing on the brakes and makes it worthless for anything more than checking email.
After 1GB they drop you down to dialup, so you'd be better off just getting dialup and call it a day.