I think unfortunately you're already seeing it...moderators have more "staus" with the management than non-moderators so there begins to be that smug I'm-better-than-you attitude...it's a shame. Even geeks are status hungry.
I feel for the issue you have, Rob. So far in NewsTrolls we only had one flagrant abuser of anonymous (we call it anymouse) and even he was only joking around...so hopefully we won't have to put in the restraints like you have.
It's just so damn goofy! Can you imagine walking into Systems of a Fortune 400 with Hacker on your bag? In NewsTrolls I said I was frustrated and came close to buying the cyberpunk bag b/c it was a flat backpack that could hold a laptop...AND opera scores...however, this weekend I found a great laptop/scores bag with dual zippers at the mens' Banana Republic....well that's pretty yuppie too, but at least it doesn't have any goofy names on it...just simple black nylon and exceptionally good padding for the shoulders. 'Course I put a NewsTrolls sticker on it...
Berst just wanted the/. effect... Here's the latest ZD Usurption: ZDTV's LinuxSuperguide... Remember Paul Allen recently plopped down a $54,000,000 investment in ZDTV via his Vulcan Ventures which makes him a one-third investor...ZDTV is expected to reach 9 million homes by the end of the year and what better way to cash in on Open Source and Linux then to coax the/. effect to the TV... Hmmm....
OK, if you know NewsTrolls you know I've been covering every aspect of Y2K info and news since we began and before that in HotWired Threads...
YES, there's a LOT of BS...especially when it's put out by a consulting company that really just wants to farm out their consultants to you.
BUT...no one, AND I MEAN NO ONE knows to what extent embedded chips and software programs may fail. Remediation and certification consists of patching, changing the date, taking a screen shot of the result and faxing it to whomever in the company as proof of compliance. Do you think every ramification of a program has been thought about and tested? And then we have programs which are "updated" by the users which then go back into testing... Combine that with people testing who only know how to test, not how the software/database/mainframe they're testing works, and I can say with assurance there are going to be problems overlooked.
But panic? No.
Look at it this way. What would be the type of daily-life preparation you'd have to do if at the same time you were preparing for a blizzard, a hurricane, and a 2 month trip into deepest Africa?
Whatever you'd do for that scenario, do for Y2K.
Where will I be? NYC with all the rest of the Wall Street geeks. As a matter of fact, I'm looking forward to it as all the major firms are shipping in their best techies from all around the country to be here in NYC for the date change to keep the economic infrastructure going. If nothing happens it's going to be the biggest geek-fest New Years party ever...
Try NewsTrolls: Sometimes the regulars can be hard on newbies (especially if the newbies can't defend their opinions), but the topics are killer...it's where the old HotWired threads crowd went after HotWired dumbed down to inanity...and, of course, we're regular/. readers, too... Here's a direct link to the Threads at NewsTrolls --diva (of course I'm prejudiced, I 'm...)
Attrition.org has already dissected ABC article
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Hacker Generation Gap
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I learned Basic and Extended Basic on a TRS 80 4A like many others here...in my opinion the only help there is a similar logic to current languages. The best thing basic taught me was to constantly re-check my work, but I agree with other posters that the games you can create are pretty dull by today's standards.
Here's what's going on in my extended family...
First create a web page (yes, I know many people don't consider HTML manipulating to be coding)together, then look at the html and explain the logic patterns in it. Using Notepad, then encourage your kid to create her own. When you upload it, you'll be able to point out and analyze the mistakes together. (That's why I suggest Notepad rather than an HTML editor that points out your mistakes as you make them.)
When she feels comfortable with HTML, start helping her add JavaScript and then Perl to her pages. The Dummies books are definitely written at a level that most kids 8+ can understand.
I would recommend this approach for parents with kids starting anywhere from 8 to 11, depending on their development. Before 8, just keep them around while you code...it's amazing how much they pick up from watching.
Slashdot Mirror
I think unfortunately you're already seeing it...moderators have more "staus" with the management than non-moderators so there begins to be that smug I'm-better-than-you attitude...it's a shame. Even geeks are status hungry.
I feel for the issue you have, Rob. So far in NewsTrolls we only had one flagrant abuser of anonymous (we call it anymouse) and even he was only joking around...so hopefully we won't have to put in the restraints like you have.
Good luck on trying this out!
--diva
The
Spam bag...
It's just so damn goofy! Can you imagine walking into Systems of a Fortune 400 with Hacker on your bag? In NewsTrolls I said I was frustrated and came close to buying the cyberpunk bag b/c it was a flat backpack that could hold a laptop...AND opera scores...however, this weekend I found a great laptop/scores bag with dual zippers at the mens' Banana Republic....well that's pretty yuppie too, but at least it doesn't have any goofy names on it...just simple black nylon and exceptionally good padding for the shoulders. 'Course I put a NewsTrolls sticker on it...
Business @the Speed of Drool
Berst just wanted the /. effect... /. effect to the TV...
Here's the latest ZD Usurption: ZDTV's LinuxSuperguide...
Remember Paul Allen recently plopped down a $54,000,000 investment in ZDTV via his Vulcan Ventures which makes him a one-third investor...ZDTV is expected to reach 9 million homes by the end of the year and what better way to cash in on Open Source and Linux then to coax the
Hmmm....
Another Portal Potty...this one trendily built around a microcommunity...
And why not? Anyone whose site gets as many hits as Slashdot's should morph into a
Smart move.
OK, if you know
NewsTrolls
you know I've been covering every aspect of Y2K info and news since we began and before that in HotWired Threads...
YES, there's a LOT of BS...especially when it's put out by a consulting company that really just wants to farm out their consultants to you.
BUT...no one, AND I MEAN NO ONE knows to what extent embedded chips and software programs may fail. Remediation and certification consists of patching, changing the date, taking a screen shot of the result and faxing it to whomever in the company as proof of compliance. Do you think every ramification of a program has been thought about and tested? And then we have programs which are "updated" by the users which then go back into testing... Combine that with people testing who only know how to test, not how the software/database/mainframe they're testing works, and I can say with assurance there are going to be problems overlooked.
But panic? No.
Look at it this way. What would be the type of daily-life preparation you'd have to do if at the same time you were preparing for a blizzard, a hurricane, and a 2 month trip into deepest Africa?
Whatever you'd do for that scenario, do for Y2K.
Where will I be? NYC with all the rest of the Wall Street geeks. As a matter of fact, I'm looking forward to it as all the major firms are shipping in their best techies from all around the country to be here in NYC for the date change to keep the economic infrastructure going. If nothing happens it's going to be the biggest geek-fest New Years party ever...
--diva
Try NewsTrolls: /. readers, too...
Sometimes the regulars can be hard on newbies (especially if the newbies can't defend their opinions), but the topics are killer...it's where the old HotWired threads crowd went after HotWired dumbed down to inanity...and, of course, we're regular
Here's a direct link to the Threads at NewsTrolls
--diva (of course I'm prejudiced, I 'm...)
The comments to the article are in red.
Attrition.org's dissection of mistakes in ABC News article on hackers...
I learned Basic and Extended Basic on a TRS 80 4A like many others here...in my opinion the only help there is a similar logic to current languages. The best thing basic taught me was to constantly re-check my work, but I agree with other posters that the games you can create are pretty dull by today's standards.
Here's what's going on in my extended family...
First create a web page (yes, I know many people don't consider HTML manipulating to be coding)together, then look at the html and explain the logic patterns in it. Using Notepad, then encourage your kid to create her own. When you upload it, you'll be able to point out and analyze the mistakes together. (That's why I suggest Notepad rather than an HTML editor that points out your mistakes as you make them.)
When she feels comfortable with HTML, start helping her add JavaScript and then Perl to her pages. The Dummies books are definitely written at a level that most kids 8+ can understand.
I would recommend this approach for parents with kids starting anywhere from 8 to 11, depending on their development. Before 8, just keep them around while you code...it's amazing how much they pick up from watching.
Ridiculous! Everyone is commenting on the explosion of patents, but no one has followed the trend to its logical conclusion...a quagmire of lawsuits.
Cool on the Adfu, guys!
That will be a great service to web sites everywhere.
--diva