Couldn't they just re-release the exact same beta OS but fix the expiration date? They must know about this by now, and it doesn't seem like it'd even take that long. Maybe they are having a day off or something.
I know this will be the theme for the whole slashdot story, but I have to say that if MS did this, I think there'd be public burnings, see-I-told-you-so's, etc.
This is only "evidence," of course, and evidence can be brought on both sides of any case.
On the other hand (perhaps I should read the article, correct me if I'm wrong), it does not appear to mention the huge step between having amino acid chains laying around and having them actually form a living cell organism. There's a huge difference between a pile of blocks and an actual functioning structure. Which is why, in old times, if your city got conquered, they "leveled" it. They knocked everything over. A pile of amino acids is like a pile of rocks...
Isn't the screen itself rather large? Last time I checked, quality LCD screens above 22" are quite expensive. Sure, not $5k to $10k, but still. How much even is a good sized plasma screen these days? People seem quite willing to pay upwards of $2500 for it; perhaps it is a little expensive, but not incredibly.
But isn't the advertising to some extent what keeps some websites afloat? Even some services?
As for billboards being less intrusive, that depends on the billboard and where it is, and how often you happen to visit wherever it is...
And as for the postal systems, that is a federal system and it is illegal to open someone else's mail. I'm not sure the same applies to online transactions, depending on how it is sent. If you shout across the room, don't sue me for listening if I'm in the room...
I'm not sure exactly... what privacy we are supposed to expect online. We're essentially driving on open roads while surfing the net, right... sending packets over open wires or open air. As long as it isn't malicious and isn't gathering actual personal information, I'm not sure this is unexpected or even a problem; no different than checking to see what kind of people shop at certain stores or malls to see what to put on the billboard...
... because, obviously, all European governments have smooth elections with no corruption whatsoever. Actually, the US is really the only corrupt government in the world...
Can't we admit that, for whatever reason, the Air/Safari was easier hacked than Vista/IE7? I know this is an unpopular bandwagon to be on, especially on Slashdot, but it seems there's no two ways about it. I refuse to believe that it was a conspiracy and that every hacker was actually just trying to hack the Air and make Ubuntu and Vista pass, that's stupid. If I were a hacker, I'd totally hack the EASIEST one simply to get the $10k and the laptop. And if there were known or open vulnerabilities, it should have fallen in what, 30 seconds?
Seriously, it's not a huge deal. If we, like good open source cronies, admit that there was a problem with *gasp* part of the Apple software/laptop combo (whether it was Safari or the OS or whatever), then maybe it will be fixed. Isn't that the main idea here? I thought the point of these things were to discover vulnerabilities so that they could be fixed, not to place bets on Microsoft falling and go up in arms if it doesn't.
Unless, of course, we really aren't interested in open source software or good software at all, but are more about claiming a company name as our own.
I know the thread is dead already, but I wanted to mention that this will not be an entirely accurate benchmark. In order to accurately benchmark Vista's ability to copy files, you're going to have to make sure the drive is, say, new, and thus has exactly the same fragmentation. In other words, if once you copy one file, your hard drive makeup is now different from when you just copied that file; for all you know, the next file you copy is going to have to seek to a bunch of random places on the disk, and now you're mixing in the average seek/write time of the hard drive... it'd be really hard, basically, to get a really good benchmark.
Benchmark? I'd imagine it's a fairly long ordeal to really and accurately benchmark file copying, unless you want "It took about 3 seconds to..." Plus, you'd have to have a non-SP1 computer that has exactly the same hard drive fragmentation and everything... it's not like you're benchmarking a game with GameSpot and have x amount of computers to spare for exactly that purpose...
I won't argue that America's legal system is messed up and corrupted, but it will always be. We can make it better, quite possibly, yes, but by and large, I'd have to say that the American legal system is pretty good in comparison to most countries, is it not?
The "Yay America" comment was simply a blanket criticism, nothing constructive, and simply.. well, for lack of a better term, flaming America. Apparently, the government should be entirely uncorrupted and make sure that no courts are corrupted either. But we know that's not going to happen, hm.
You're right. In a really and truly free country, the government should forcefully tell you where you can and can't sue someone.
Sarcasm aside, why is it that when we have freedom and its abused, it's America's fault? You can't have your cake and eat it, too; either you have freedom and people abuse it, or you don't have freedom and people get upset. Utopia really isn't an option with what human nature is....
It should almost be expected. If people are willing to pay more money for it, I honestly have to say that I have no problem with the company charging more for it. If you work in a computer support company, and your client is willing and able to pay you $60 an hour, are you going to offer him $30 out of pure spite towards your wallet?
I read it between that evening and the next day after I got it (and I pre-ordered it, as well). I've read The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, and many other books as well. I found The Children of Hurin to be more of an expanded version of what it was in The Silmarillion/Unfinished Tales, and I loved it. No, it's nothing particularly new - what do you expect, it's not like Christopher is actually rewriting the story. His dad already wrote it; Christopher can't add to the story. I'd much rather read something compiled or edited by Christopher, not co-written by Christopher.
All application that follow with? Um... you mean, you can't freely download some of those programs? Did you actually BUY a new copy of Windows in order to upgrade to Internet Explorer 6 or 7? You can't download Windows Notepad, or Calculator, or whatever?
I dunno. This is kinda like saying that if you buy openSuSE, you are actually paying for all the "free software" that they include. It's all a hoax, it's not really free (even if you CAN download it for free).
Would you say that, if you bought a new GeForce video card and it came with some game that you could also freely download... you would say you paid for the game?
Certainly not going to vouch for everything every government agency does, or argue that the US government (or ANY government) is perfect or free from corruption... but seriously, open source software is cool and all that, but open source government probably won't work very well.
I somewhat agree, except for the last part... what are you suggesting? That the FBI should not be allowed access to information that is otherwise private? Yeah, he misused it, obviously. And I hope he got in trouble for it, I didn't read enough to find that out (looks like he did, since he was indicted). But that doesn't mean the FBI shouldn't have access.
Corruption is going to be there, but it seems having the FBI and some of its corruption is a lot better than having no FBI and having everyone else's corruption run free (or, worse, have some sort of anarchical revenge system).
Of course, in the case of a really neat phishing where the address is really close, this may not work all the time. Do you actually check every link you follow to make sure it's correct? maybe, say, if it was e-mailed from a personal friend or something?
I'm sure a lot of doctors would say that if people just washed their hands more, you wouldn't get as sick... but if you DO get sick, they don't just tell you "Pft, too bad, you should have washed your hands. Next."
Besides... if it's possible for a browser to be *gasp* more secure than it is now, at no "freedom" loss, shouldn't we be all for it? May as well start arguing that Linux is worse than Windows because Linux is TOO secure and encourages carelessness in users' activity. You really should have to check all your ports, they should all default to open so you can get into the habit of checking what ports are open... or something.:)
I didn't say their belief doesn't matter; I basically said that I wasn't going to slam all of the Islamic religion and all Muslims because of the actions of the fanatical ones.
The only one I can think of is some sort of glory or fame, but what's the use of glory and fame if you're dead. Unless, of course, you're simply doing it for your country and whatnot, but we seem to like to give the countries the benefit of the doubt and insist that people like Hussein and countries like Iran really don't support fanatical Islamic terrorists (and even if they do, it's the West's fault). [/sarcasm]
I meant terrorists that claim the Islamic religion. Whether or not they are true Muslims or whatever is up to the Islamic community to decide, I suppose, but they at least claim to believe it, hence my little term.
Do they have no other earthly motivations? I think they probably have some. Yes, I was referring to fanatics, and I am referring to the sort of religions fanatic that would do a suicide bombing. It takes a lot more than a simple "I don't like western civilization in my country" to do a suicide bombing in another country. I am not sure what "earthly motivation" there is for killing yourself and bringing as many Westerners with you... you aren't even around afterwards to enjoy whatever earthly reward there is.
And yes, they certainly do hate western civilization, they view it as immoral and evil and destructive, etc. Muslims here in the states seem to be significantly different than Muslims that live in Islamic countries.
To chalk it up to other countries simply being in their land or meddling with their affairs seems to lacking.
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Couldn't they just re-release the exact same beta OS but fix the expiration date? They must know about this by now, and it doesn't seem like it'd even take that long. Maybe they are having a day off or something.
I know this will be the theme for the whole slashdot story, but I have to say that if MS did this, I think there'd be public burnings, see-I-told-you-so's, etc.
This is only "evidence," of course, and evidence can be brought on both sides of any case.
On the other hand (perhaps I should read the article, correct me if I'm wrong), it does not appear to mention the huge step between having amino acid chains laying around and having them actually form a living cell organism. There's a huge difference between a pile of blocks and an actual functioning structure. Which is why, in old times, if your city got conquered, they "leveled" it. They knocked everything over. A pile of amino acids is like a pile of rocks...
Isn't the screen itself rather large? Last time I checked, quality LCD screens above 22" are quite expensive. Sure, not $5k to $10k, but still. How much even is a good sized plasma screen these days? People seem quite willing to pay upwards of $2500 for it; perhaps it is a little expensive, but not incredibly.
Slashdot? Partly funded by advertising. Computer sites? Funded by advertising. Open source software? Sometimes funded with website advertising.
Spyware, spam, and splogs aren't driven by advertising, they are driven by money.
But isn't the advertising to some extent what keeps some websites afloat? Even some services?
As for billboards being less intrusive, that depends on the billboard and where it is, and how often you happen to visit wherever it is...
And as for the postal systems, that is a federal system and it is illegal to open someone else's mail. I'm not sure the same applies to online transactions, depending on how it is sent. If you shout across the room, don't sue me for listening if I'm in the room...
I'm not sure exactly ... what privacy we are supposed to expect online. We're essentially driving on open roads while surfing the net, right... sending packets over open wires or open air. As long as it isn't malicious and isn't gathering actual personal information, I'm not sure this is unexpected or even a problem; no different than checking to see what kind of people shop at certain stores or malls to see what to put on the billboard...
I doubt $146 is really going to make Creative any richer. I think it's more of an insult than a profit.
And yes, if the constitution is wrong, I am fully and proudly in support of fixing it. There's a reason it has a process for amendment
I completely agree. Holding a new election without "fixing" the constitution would not be following that process, would it?
No, but you suggested that the vote should be thrown out if people disputed it, Constitution be hanged. Rule by the populace. Direct democracy?
... because, obviously, all European governments have smooth elections with no corruption whatsoever. Actually, the US is really the only corrupt government in the world...
Can't we admit that, for whatever reason, the Air/Safari was easier hacked than Vista/IE7? I know this is an unpopular bandwagon to be on, especially on Slashdot, but it seems there's no two ways about it. I refuse to believe that it was a conspiracy and that every hacker was actually just trying to hack the Air and make Ubuntu and Vista pass, that's stupid. If I were a hacker, I'd totally hack the EASIEST one simply to get the $10k and the laptop. And if there were known or open vulnerabilities, it should have fallen in what, 30 seconds?
Seriously, it's not a huge deal. If we, like good open source cronies, admit that there was a problem with *gasp* part of the Apple software/laptop combo (whether it was Safari or the OS or whatever), then maybe it will be fixed. Isn't that the main idea here? I thought the point of these things were to discover vulnerabilities so that they could be fixed, not to place bets on Microsoft falling and go up in arms if it doesn't.
Unless, of course, we really aren't interested in open source software or good software at all, but are more about claiming a company name as our own.
I know the thread is dead already, but I wanted to mention that this will not be an entirely accurate benchmark. In order to accurately benchmark Vista's ability to copy files, you're going to have to make sure the drive is, say, new, and thus has exactly the same fragmentation. In other words, if once you copy one file, your hard drive makeup is now different from when you just copied that file; for all you know, the next file you copy is going to have to seek to a bunch of random places on the disk, and now you're mixing in the average seek/write time of the hard drive... it'd be really hard, basically, to get a really good benchmark.
Benchmark? I'd imagine it's a fairly long ordeal to really and accurately benchmark file copying, unless you want "It took about 3 seconds to..." Plus, you'd have to have a non-SP1 computer that has exactly the same hard drive fragmentation and everything... it's not like you're benchmarking a game with GameSpot and have x amount of computers to spare for exactly that purpose...
Wish I had mod points. :)
rational and functioning legal system,
I won't argue that America's legal system is messed up and corrupted, but it will always be. We can make it better, quite possibly, yes, but by and large, I'd have to say that the American legal system is pretty good in comparison to most countries, is it not?
The "Yay America" comment was simply a blanket criticism, nothing constructive, and simply .. well, for lack of a better term, flaming America. Apparently, the government should be entirely uncorrupted and make sure that no courts are corrupted either. But we know that's not going to happen, hm.
What do you suggest? :)
Yay America!
You're right. In a really and truly free country, the government should forcefully tell you where you can and can't sue someone.
Sarcasm aside, why is it that when we have freedom and its abused, it's America's fault? You can't have your cake and eat it, too; either you have freedom and people abuse it, or you don't have freedom and people get upset. Utopia really isn't an option with what human nature is....
It should almost be expected. If people are willing to pay more money for it, I honestly have to say that I have no problem with the company charging more for it. If you work in a computer support company, and your client is willing and able to pay you $60 an hour, are you going to offer him $30 out of pure spite towards your wallet?
I read it between that evening and the next day after I got it (and I pre-ordered it, as well). I've read The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, and many other books as well. I found The Children of Hurin to be more of an expanded version of what it was in The Silmarillion/Unfinished Tales, and I loved it. No, it's nothing particularly new - what do you expect, it's not like Christopher is actually rewriting the story. His dad already wrote it; Christopher can't add to the story. I'd much rather read something compiled or edited by Christopher, not co-written by Christopher.
Furthermore, it should be "9 to 11" or "nine to eleven" not "nine to 11." Apparently, news for nerds needn't be in decent English.
All application that follow with? Um... you mean, you can't freely download some of those programs? Did you actually BUY a new copy of Windows in order to upgrade to Internet Explorer 6 or 7? You can't download Windows Notepad, or Calculator, or whatever?
I dunno. This is kinda like saying that if you buy openSuSE, you are actually paying for all the "free software" that they include. It's all a hoax, it's not really free (even if you CAN download it for free).
Would you say that, if you bought a new GeForce video card and it came with some game that you could also freely download... you would say you paid for the game?
Certainly not going to vouch for everything every government agency does, or argue that the US government (or ANY government) is perfect or free from corruption... but seriously, open source software is cool and all that, but open source government probably won't work very well.
I somewhat agree, except for the last part... what are you suggesting? That the FBI should not be allowed access to information that is otherwise private? Yeah, he misused it, obviously. And I hope he got in trouble for it, I didn't read enough to find that out (looks like he did, since he was indicted). But that doesn't mean the FBI shouldn't have access.
Corruption is going to be there, but it seems having the FBI and some of its corruption is a lot better than having no FBI and having everyone else's corruption run free (or, worse, have some sort of anarchical revenge system).
Of course, in the case of a really neat phishing where the address is really close, this may not work all the time. Do you actually check every link you follow to make sure it's correct? maybe, say, if it was e-mailed from a personal friend or something?
I'm sure a lot of doctors would say that if people just washed their hands more, you wouldn't get as sick... but if you DO get sick, they don't just tell you "Pft, too bad, you should have washed your hands. Next."
Besides... if it's possible for a browser to be *gasp* more secure than it is now, at no "freedom" loss, shouldn't we be all for it? May as well start arguing that Linux is worse than Windows because Linux is TOO secure and encourages carelessness in users' activity. You really should have to check all your ports, they should all default to open so you can get into the habit of checking what ports are open... or something. :)
I didn't say their belief doesn't matter; I basically said that I wasn't going to slam all of the Islamic religion and all Muslims because of the actions of the fanatical ones.
The only one I can think of is some sort of glory or fame, but what's the use of glory and fame if you're dead. Unless, of course, you're simply doing it for your country and whatnot, but we seem to like to give the countries the benefit of the doubt and insist that people like Hussein and countries like Iran really don't support fanatical Islamic terrorists (and even if they do, it's the West's fault). [/sarcasm]
I meant terrorists that claim the Islamic religion. Whether or not they are true Muslims or whatever is up to the Islamic community to decide, I suppose, but they at least claim to believe it, hence my little term.
Do they have no other earthly motivations? I think they probably have some. Yes, I was referring to fanatics, and I am referring to the sort of religions fanatic that would do a suicide bombing. It takes a lot more than a simple "I don't like western civilization in my country" to do a suicide bombing in another country. I am not sure what "earthly motivation" there is for killing yourself and bringing as many Westerners with you... you aren't even around afterwards to enjoy whatever earthly reward there is.
And yes, they certainly do hate western civilization, they view it as immoral and evil and destructive, etc. Muslims here in the states seem to be significantly different than Muslims that live in Islamic countries.
To chalk it up to other countries simply being in their land or meddling with their affairs seems to lacking.