Turns out that creativity doesn't automatically translate to an ability to follow verbal directions, pay attention to detail, and work efficiently without supervision.
No, it doesn't. Attention to detail and efficient work seems like it would somewhat depend on, for example, how school went (grades? what exactly was the music major? what'd he do in computer science, any projects of note?) or how much he has been able to self-teach himself (in my case, I made it clear that formal programming coursework was basically none). Following verbal directions... I don't know where that'd come out of an interview, hehe. I guess that comes together with honesty, to some extent, which one can somewhat tell in an interview. The difference between an honest, straight-up person and a somewhat manipulative, overly shining personality/character comes out in conversation. At least in my experience, which admittedly, is fairly small:)
Totally agree. I found it ironic that people are so OUTRAGED that *gasp* AIG paid ~$165 million in bonuses to AIG execs (I'm not saying it was good or morally right or whatever, of course), and yet the billions and billions being spent on this, that, and the other thing, including bailouts (what is it now, somewhere around $1.7 billion? at least?) doesn't cause much outrage. It's "necessary spending." "Good for the economy." "Get us back on track." People are outraged that they lost $165 million to AIG execs, but not that they lost $1.7 billion to Federal spending projects. Which included AIG... *sigh*
I'm confused about what you find puzzling. I know the variations between different UNIX systems is huge.. I work with AIX, HPUX, and Solaris (still learning them). They're more different than Linux distros... IMO, far more different, more confusing, more absolute huge (try "man installp" on AIX. Eek)... I completely agree with that. What I meant, though, was that there were multiple UNIX versions used, so I combined them by saying "UNIX"... be it solaris, aix, hpux, whatever.
I have no disillusion that if you know AIX you know Solaris or something. I am (unfortunately) very familiar with the difficulties in going between the two (even a command like "tail" is different! tail -X, tail -n X... *sigh*)
An extremely moderate Republican. Sacramento is primarily democrat, and California hasn't been "republican" for a while. The only reason Governor S. became governor of California is former Gov. Gray Davis's impeachment and a disillusionment with the democratic party because of it. CA Congress has 24 democrats and 15 republicans and a moderate to liberal "republican" governor that almost no republican is happy with. I'm more interested in positions, beliefs, stances, agendas, etc, than what party affiliation they wear on their name tag.
They certainly don't teach troubleshooting skills in school.
Nor, typically, how to teach yourself. I was actually homeschooled and more or less "taught myself" for most of my schooling, so I had a bit of an advantage there, hehe.
I would disagree. My hiring manager has commented several times on my honesty, as well. I knew I was new and didn't know everything. My response, if asked if I knew something, was "No, but I can learn it." Maybe that sounds tongue in cheek but it's true; I was being considered for a position that I was going to have to learn a lot for, may as well be willing to do so. Furthermore, the people interviewing me actually asked for some examples (e.g., one guy asked about the advantages/disadvantages of Perl, one asked me to write a simple code snippet that would print out an array of somethings, etc).
Depending on who you end up working for/with, honesty can make you a great person to work with. Everybody hates it when someone doesn't answer a question. I have found that answering honestly (but positively) works very well. Lying in an interview would be even worse than lying on a resume. Which, by the way, I've had several interviewing people mention to me - most people lie on their resume. I didn't, but they still wanted to talk to me if they were interested, resume isn't enough.
A ZDNet's blogger notes that the bill, introduced by a Democrat in a state whose politics is dominated by Republicans, faces chances that "...fall somewhere east of slim and west of none."
Whatever the issue (democrat introducing bill or open standards themselves), the ZDNet blogger (and the summary writer) thought it important to blame it on republicans. No, he didn't say "republican's fault." But the implication is clearly there. As for my political issues, legislation of open standards is the least of my political issues:)
Hm. I'm not a hiring manager, but was recently hired by a hiring manager (and interviewed by several people from the team I now work with). I was hired for a testing role of a product that involved UNIX (e.g., AIX) as well as Linux. I was freshly out of college with two Bachelor degrees - computer science and music. A few commented on the music thing and asked about it. One thought it was fairly related (e.g., creative thinking and programming SHOULD go together, but often don't). I had NO experience AT ALL with UNIX. I had self-taught experience with most computer stuff, including Linux and all programming (my computer science coursework was mostly review for me).
I got hired not because of relevant experience, but because I apparently could show that I was hard working and diligent, fairly intelligent, creative [music], familiar with a lot of programming languages (but only "good" with one or two, since I primarily did scripting stuff in the past few years), and able to teach myself (that was a big resume item for me).
Relevant experience is good, but maybe not for an entry level position? If anything, my manager was more interested in my attitude, willingness to learn, willingness to work hard, etc.
Hm. It's the fault of the republicans I guess. Evil conservative types, wanting lock-ins. Definitely a republican problem. If we had more democrats in Texas, we would have more open standards! Just look at California, New York, Washington... look at all those open standards being used by those states! And democrat-liking Hollywood! Hollywood is a huge "open source," open document, non-DRM fan. What we need to do is legislate open formats, that way private companies can't be standards incompliant! That will fix the free market, private enterprise will flourish, etc.
Without defending or criticizing Bush (can't we focus on the current administration's faults or whatever instead of constantly comparing it to Bush? Makes no sense, but even the Obama administration is doing it), I think there is an important distinction to make between the two presumed "crisis." This does not have bearing on how either administration handles it, but simply a distinction between the two "reasons" for actions.
Having what amounts to an attack (with real and more or less immediate deaths by people who want to destroy) is a bit of a different "crisis" than the stock market quickly deflating. Note that in the Great Depression, the stock market crashed almost instantly and people committed suicide that night. That's not happening. It's gradual. It's definitely NOT the same as the actual GP crisis, no matter how much someone's PR team tries to say it is. Point: this, if nothing else, was not as time-critical of a "crisis" as 9/11. Unless you can direct me to people 4000 odd people jumping out of buildings on account of the stock market. And even that: suicide is significantly different from being blown up or burned to death because some radical group hates you because you live in America.
Except it makes no sense. Talking on a phone with it on your ear is far better, as far as SEEING the road, than texting with your phone down (and thus you looking and reading it). It went in opposite order than it should have, if your phase idea were correct, didn't it? To me, it seems more of a "Look, we're doing something about it! Cool, huh?" reaction from Sacramento, I suppose because of some group that wanted it passed. I don't know who that group would be, though, to be honest.:)
Nope, just following along with the conversation by the parent about what he would do if he were president. Common sense and the modern politician do not appear to coexist very often. yes, I think Obama is "just another politician." I didn't specifically mention him though, or even particularly mean to refer to him in any other way than I would refer to any other politician. On the other hand, your defensive reaction appears to imply that you think he is not a normal politician. I disagree there, without going into the socialist islamist never-was-born stuff. Corrupt Chicago Machine part, that seems a bit more plausible, but I don't have to resort to that to talk about his politician-ness. ontheissues.org is good enough.:)
The time they had? I think they had more time than they wanted you to think. When a politician says "we need to pass this bill now! we need to spend money now!" and when the bill is so long that most of the people that voted on it didn't even read it...
I really don't see how waiting 48 hours (two days) would have killed the economy. Oh my goodness, we had to wait 48 more hours before waiting several more months before getting stimulus money.
If it wasn't bad enough that it's just spending more money than we actually have to somehow fix the problem of spending more money than we should be, on top of that it's been railroaded through Congress on the basis of a presumed crisis. I'm not saying there aren't people struggling or that the economy didn't "crash" but this is not the worst thing since the Great Depression (at least not yet, but the people saying that aren't forecasting with doubt, they're saying it IS...) - of course, it was superficially inflated to begin with. What I am saying is that top democrats/leading democrats appear to have taken this "crisis" as an opportunity to push their agenda and "sell" it to the public using fear (including ridiculous numbers by Pelosi, who twice referred to "500 million jobs" being lost every month, etc).
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Turns out that creativity doesn't automatically translate to an ability to follow verbal directions, pay attention to detail, and work efficiently without supervision.
No, it doesn't. Attention to detail and efficient work seems like it would somewhat depend on, for example, how school went (grades? what exactly was the music major? what'd he do in computer science, any projects of note?) or how much he has been able to self-teach himself (in my case, I made it clear that formal programming coursework was basically none). Following verbal directions... I don't know where that'd come out of an interview, hehe. I guess that comes together with honesty, to some extent, which one can somewhat tell in an interview. The difference between an honest, straight-up person and a somewhat manipulative, overly shining personality/character comes out in conversation. At least in my experience, which admittedly, is fairly small :)
Totally agree. I found it ironic that people are so OUTRAGED that *gasp* AIG paid ~$165 million in bonuses to AIG execs (I'm not saying it was good or morally right or whatever, of course), and yet the billions and billions being spent on this, that, and the other thing, including bailouts (what is it now, somewhere around $1.7 billion? at least?) doesn't cause much outrage. It's "necessary spending." "Good for the economy." "Get us back on track." People are outraged that they lost $165 million to AIG execs, but not that they lost $1.7 billion to Federal spending projects. Which included AIG... *sigh*
I'm confused about what you find puzzling. I know the variations between different UNIX systems is huge.. I work with AIX, HPUX, and Solaris (still learning them). They're more different than Linux distros... IMO, far more different, more confusing, more absolute huge (try "man installp" on AIX. Eek) ... I completely agree with that. What I meant, though, was that there were multiple UNIX versions used, so I combined them by saying "UNIX" ... be it solaris, aix, hpux, whatever.
I have no disillusion that if you know AIX you know Solaris or something. I am (unfortunately) very familiar with the difficulties in going between the two (even a command like "tail" is different! tail -X, tail -n X ... *sigh*)
I agree the price is ridiculous... but I would like to say: bikes work pretty well, too. :)
An extremely moderate Republican. Sacramento is primarily democrat, and California hasn't been "republican" for a while. The only reason Governor S. became governor of California is former Gov. Gray Davis's impeachment and a disillusionment with the democratic party because of it. CA Congress has 24 democrats and 15 republicans and a moderate to liberal "republican" governor that almost no republican is happy with. I'm more interested in positions, beliefs, stances, agendas, etc, than what party affiliation they wear on their name tag.
I was a double music major in college: a BA in Music Ed K-12, and a BA in Music Perf. Percussion.
Yay for double majors and music majors! (BS in CS and BM in Composition, for me)
They certainly don't teach troubleshooting skills in school.
Nor, typically, how to teach yourself. I was actually homeschooled and more or less "taught myself" for most of my schooling, so I had a bit of an advantage there, hehe.
I would disagree. My hiring manager has commented several times on my honesty, as well. I knew I was new and didn't know everything. My response, if asked if I knew something, was "No, but I can learn it." Maybe that sounds tongue in cheek but it's true; I was being considered for a position that I was going to have to learn a lot for, may as well be willing to do so. Furthermore, the people interviewing me actually asked for some examples (e.g., one guy asked about the advantages/disadvantages of Perl, one asked me to write a simple code snippet that would print out an array of somethings, etc).
Depending on who you end up working for/with, honesty can make you a great person to work with. Everybody hates it when someone doesn't answer a question. I have found that answering honestly (but positively) works very well. Lying in an interview would be even worse than lying on a resume. Which, by the way, I've had several interviewing people mention to me - most people lie on their resume. I didn't, but they still wanted to talk to me if they were interested, resume isn't enough.
A ZDNet's blogger notes that the bill, introduced by a Democrat in a state whose politics is dominated by Republicans, faces chances that "...fall somewhere east of slim and west of none."
Whatever the issue (democrat introducing bill or open standards themselves), the ZDNet blogger (and the summary writer) thought it important to blame it on republicans. No, he didn't say "republican's fault." But the implication is clearly there. As for my political issues, legislation of open standards is the least of my political issues :)
Hm. I'm not a hiring manager, but was recently hired by a hiring manager (and interviewed by several people from the team I now work with). I was hired for a testing role of a product that involved UNIX (e.g., AIX) as well as Linux. I was freshly out of college with two Bachelor degrees - computer science and music. A few commented on the music thing and asked about it. One thought it was fairly related (e.g., creative thinking and programming SHOULD go together, but often don't). I had NO experience AT ALL with UNIX. I had self-taught experience with most computer stuff, including Linux and all programming (my computer science coursework was mostly review for me).
I got hired not because of relevant experience, but because I apparently could show that I was hard working and diligent, fairly intelligent, creative [music], familiar with a lot of programming languages (but only "good" with one or two, since I primarily did scripting stuff in the past few years), and able to teach myself (that was a big resume item for me).
Relevant experience is good, but maybe not for an entry level position? If anything, my manager was more interested in my attitude, willingness to learn, willingness to work hard, etc.
Hm. It's the fault of the republicans I guess. Evil conservative types, wanting lock-ins. Definitely a republican problem. If we had more democrats in Texas, we would have more open standards! Just look at California, New York, Washington... look at all those open standards being used by those states! And democrat-liking Hollywood! Hollywood is a huge "open source," open document, non-DRM fan. What we need to do is legislate open formats, that way private companies can't be standards incompliant! That will fix the free market, private enterprise will flourish, etc.
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$200,000 * 300 = $60,000,000
That's a lot of money for a hopeful eventual space flight at some point in the future.
And people wonder why people starve.
Oops. Evil HTML coding. They passed a second no-texting law after the first no-talking law
Yes, it is now. They passed a after the first law dealing with talking.
Without defending or criticizing Bush (can't we focus on the current administration's faults or whatever instead of constantly comparing it to Bush? Makes no sense, but even the Obama administration is doing it), I think there is an important distinction to make between the two presumed "crisis." This does not have bearing on how either administration handles it, but simply a distinction between the two "reasons" for actions.
Having what amounts to an attack (with real and more or less immediate deaths by people who want to destroy) is a bit of a different "crisis" than the stock market quickly deflating. Note that in the Great Depression, the stock market crashed almost instantly and people committed suicide that night. That's not happening. It's gradual. It's definitely NOT the same as the actual GP crisis, no matter how much someone's PR team tries to say it is. Point: this, if nothing else, was not as time-critical of a "crisis" as 9/11. Unless you can direct me to people 4000 odd people jumping out of buildings on account of the stock market. And even that: suicide is significantly different from being blown up or burned to death because some radical group hates you because you live in America.
Post above was mine. Wrong button. Rar.
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Or both.
Except it makes no sense. Talking on a phone with it on your ear is far better, as far as SEEING the road, than texting with your phone down (and thus you looking and reading it). It went in opposite order than it should have, if your phase idea were correct, didn't it? To me, it seems more of a "Look, we're doing something about it! Cool, huh?" reaction from Sacramento, I suppose because of some group that wanted it passed. I don't know who that group would be, though, to be honest. :)
Nope, just following along with the conversation by the parent about what he would do if he were president. Common sense and the modern politician do not appear to coexist very often. yes, I think Obama is "just another politician." I didn't specifically mention him though, or even particularly mean to refer to him in any other way than I would refer to any other politician. On the other hand, your defensive reaction appears to imply that you think he is not a normal politician. I disagree there, without going into the socialist islamist never-was-born stuff. Corrupt Chicago Machine part, that seems a bit more plausible, but I don't have to resort to that to talk about his politician-ness. ontheissues.org is good enough. :)
But how could they hide things in the bills then? That would ruin any hope of fulfilling political agendas without most people noticing!
The time they had? I think they had more time than they wanted you to think. When a politician says "we need to pass this bill now! we need to spend money now!" and when the bill is so long that most of the people that voted on it didn't even read it ...
I really don't see how waiting 48 hours (two days) would have killed the economy. Oh my goodness, we had to wait 48 more hours before waiting several more months before getting stimulus money.
If it wasn't bad enough that it's just spending more money than we actually have to somehow fix the problem of spending more money than we should be, on top of that it's been railroaded through Congress on the basis of a presumed crisis. I'm not saying there aren't people struggling or that the economy didn't "crash" but this is not the worst thing since the Great Depression (at least not yet, but the people saying that aren't forecasting with doubt, they're saying it IS ...) - of course, it was superficially inflated to begin with. What I am saying is that top democrats/leading democrats appear to have taken this "crisis" as an opportunity to push their agenda and "sell" it to the public using fear (including ridiculous numbers by Pelosi, who twice referred to "500 million jobs" being lost every month, etc).
+1 Aladdin Reference :)