The PS3/XBox 360 don't have to worry about this as much because (IIRC) the HD standards 720p/1080i/1080p are universal
Not quite. The resolutions are fixed, yes, but there is still the issue of refresh rate. Badly ported games originally written for 60Hz field-rate compensate by reducing the clock rate, resulting in an overall slower game. But yes, it is good to finally be rid of the black bars at the top and bottom of the screen.
And another thing: Any device which supports HDMI output must also, by way of the HDCP implementation licence (paid to Intel), restrict the quality on all digital outputs. That means, if there is a DVI output which doesn't have HDCP, it must be downscaled to 480p. The S/PDIF output must be downsampled to 16bit @ 48kHz (not that you'll hear any difference).
So if you have an expensive TV, you don't get High Definition unless you pay Intel to use their Digital Compatibility Prevention.
Except that the HD ready standard also requires HDCP over DVI. A standard which disallowed Digital Compatibility Prevention would be good, but unfortunately, Sony are unlikely to go for it.
The problem is neither Sony, nor Westinghouse. It's Intel.
The problem is due to the Digital Compatibility Prevention (HDCP). The protocol is designed to prevent devices working together unless each manufacturer pays royalties to Digital Content Protection LLC, a subsiduary of Intel. The connection used is HDMI, whose specification mandates the use of Digital Compatibility Prevention, which is a shame, because otherwise it would be a nice connector.
Until there is a digital connection standard which does not require that end-users be treated like criminals for having expensive displays, I will not be buying an HDTV, nor a PS3, and I urge others to do the same.
I'm betting on delivering video over gigabit ethernet winning, because it's cheap, cat 6 cables are dirt cheap, and it doesn't require royalties. I would suggest HD-SDI (co-ax is even cheaper than UTP), but the licence agreement prevents it being used in "consumer" applications.
Have you had your sarcasm detector serviced lately? It seems to be acting up.
The point implied was that since everyone in fact does use Word, the it is not cool. You see the play on words there? You see what he did? He said the opposite of what he meant. That is called sarcasm. But I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that.
Which is exactly why I coined the more accurate acronym expansion "Digital Compatibility Prevention".
I can't wait for the fun when a major manufacturer - say Sony or LG - gets hacked and has their HDCP key spread over the net and hence revoked. And everyone's TV stops doing what was paid for because of stupid restrictions. That is the danger of HDCP, and its further-reaching brother DRM (Draconian Restrictions on Media) - that a company you have never heard of can, remotely, disable your equipment. Through no fault of your own, you get labelled a thief, and you're left with a pile of junk that doesn't work.
if your point is that you wont buy any device that has the ability to use HDCP, that's a different story
That is exactly my point. HDCP should be boycotted, and I will not buy any equipment which subscribes to such draconian measures. That means no players, no consoles, no screens, no scalers, no tuners, and no mixers which have the ability to either encode or decode HDCP.
Whether it uses DVI or HDMI or HD-SDI is irrelevant. HDMI is actually quite a good cabling specification (although given that HD-SDI (with embedded six-channel AES audio) goes over coax, rather expensive); HDCP however, which can be present on any digital link, is what I am boycotting.
Yes, but that's not the point. I want a TV capable of native 1080p, with digital inputs (even if they're not used on the 360), and without any Draconian Restrictions on Media.
I guess one could see it that way, but I ditched Microsoft more than a year ago. Nobody is forcing you to upgrade to Windows Vista, either.
Nobody is forcing you yet. Until Vista-logo PC's ship with TCPA chips which do actively prevent you from running Linux; when it's impossible to buy a PC without being required to use Microsoft DRM pre-infected and unremovable - then it will be too late.
You can vote with your dollars all you want; just remember that if you do, Microsoft will have several billion votes more that you.
I call it Draconian Restrictions on Media. And it's not a trojan, but it is a virus. The requirement to use approved software to read media which you have paid for is ridiculous.
When said software executes (which you can't prevent if you're running Windows), it does actually infect your media files. It prevents you from reading files you created with any other software. And that is an infection.
But the objection to DRM is much, much worse than merely wanting to play music in your car.
The whole RIAA/DMCA crap is just a cover for one Microsoft-sponsored ploy - to enforce using particular software for any particular reason. It's what Palladium is about. And once They are able to arbitrary change the restrictions on what you, the computer user, can do, you have lost any freedom you may have once had. Mandatory software can do anything it wants; including spying on you, logging keys and phoning home.
Imagine your computer had a built-in camera which you were unable to turn off due to the DMCA - you might, say, be recording what's on screen with a video camera and selling the resulting discs on eBay, and we wouldn't want that. Imagine everything you do is then recorded and analysed by the NSA, just in case you might be a thoughtcriminal. The word of the day is terrorist, but you can just as easily substitute paedophile (the Lovejoy argument) or whoever is today's Emmanuel Goldstein.
Big Brother is here, in the form of Palladium. And that is why DRM is evil.
Boycott HDCP. Demand a television without High Definition Digital Compatibility Prevention. Use DVI instead. Or do what the studios do and use HD-SDI.
Buy a high quality digital mixer/scaler for all your inputs. If you happen to have already bought a player which will not work with your very expensive non-HDCP-encumbered scaler, demand your money back.
You know, this is the best troll I've heard in a while. And it's scored "+5 informative". Wow.
1) DLLs are shared across processes. If one process loads a DLL, it resides in physical memory, at a specific virtual address. If another process loads the same DLL, it reuses the same copy in physical memory, but in a different virtual address space. It may even be loaded at a different virtual address in the second process. The pages are read-only so any attempt by either process to modify them will result in an access violation.
2) Windows explorer is a process which exists as an application called explorer.exe. It is started when you log on to Windows, and explorer.exe links to mshtml.dll and shdocvw.dll. These are the IE core DLLs (the Microsoft HTML parser and the Shell Document View, respectively). It also happens to link to gdiplus.dll, gdi.dll, user.exe, ntdll.dll and a bunch of others.
3) Internet explorer is a very small application (a few hundred KB compiled) which links into shdocvw.dll and mshtml.dll. It also happens to link to a bunch of other DLLs like ntdll.dll.
4) Firefox is another application. It links to such Windows DLLs as ntdll.dll and user.exe. It also happens to link to gecko.dll, which no other Windows application will load. Therefore when Firefox starts up, it is going to be the first to load gecko.dll.
5) Going back to point 1; every time any application loads a specific DLL, the loader will check to see if it is already present in physical memory, and will create a new virtual mapping for it. The physical memory used is shared across each process. When Windows starts, it loads the IE core DLLs. Most of IE is in memory by the time you can view the desktop. Firefox however, has a much smaller percentage of the application in memory before you click on it.
Hence: Most of IE is loaded before you click on the IE icon. Most of Firefox is not loaded until you click on the IE icon.
Plusnet rock. Up to 8 meg downstream with no limits for £14.99 a month. And you get wide open ports and a static IP address. Great for bittorrent, hosting your own web server, gaming... And apparently they now throw in VOIP, just for the hell of it.
And the referrals program means you may end up not even having to pay for any of it. Tell them negativezero sent you.
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Instead of posting offtopic crud to get around the lameness filter, have you considered the possibility that it was actually working correctly?
How about "I'm a bit mad"?
Not quite. The resolutions are fixed, yes, but there is still the issue of refresh rate. Badly ported games originally written for 60Hz field-rate compensate by reducing the clock rate, resulting in an overall slower game. But yes, it is good to finally be rid of the black bars at the top and bottom of the screen.
I hope I'm not the only one who read the title and thought it said Grey 17 is missing.
And another thing: Any device which supports HDMI output must also, by way of the HDCP implementation licence (paid to Intel), restrict the quality on all digital outputs. That means, if there is a DVI output which doesn't have HDCP, it must be downscaled to 480p. The S/PDIF output must be downsampled to 16bit @ 48kHz (not that you'll hear any difference).
So if you have an expensive TV, you don't get High Definition unless you pay Intel to use their Digital Compatibility Prevention.
Except that the HD ready standard also requires HDCP over DVI. A standard which disallowed Digital Compatibility Prevention would be good, but unfortunately, Sony are unlikely to go for it.
The problem is neither Sony, nor Westinghouse. It's Intel.
The problem is due to the Digital Compatibility Prevention (HDCP). The protocol is designed to prevent devices working together unless each manufacturer pays royalties to Digital Content Protection LLC, a subsiduary of Intel. The connection used is HDMI, whose specification mandates the use of Digital Compatibility Prevention, which is a shame, because otherwise it would be a nice connector.
Until there is a digital connection standard which does not require that end-users be treated like criminals for having expensive displays, I will not be buying an HDTV, nor a PS3, and I urge others to do the same.
I'm betting on delivering video over gigabit ethernet winning, because it's cheap, cat 6 cables are dirt cheap, and it doesn't require royalties. I would suggest HD-SDI (co-ax is even cheaper than UTP), but the licence agreement prevents it being used in "consumer" applications.
And when you're done with that, find a difference of squares that equals RSA-2048, and I'll split the $200k with you.
Yeah, because blurry-disc is a great name for a high definition format.
Have you had your sarcasm detector serviced lately? It seems to be acting up.
The point implied was that since everyone in fact does use Word, the it is not cool. You see the play on words there? You see what he did? He said the opposite of what he meant. That is called sarcasm. But I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that.
Fuck, I'm patenting the binary search tree. What do mean prior art? Who do you think you are, Donald Knuth?
Ackbar: "It's a trap!"
Emperor grins.
- George Lucas
"Will somebody think of the children?!"
- Helen Lovejoy
People might finally get the pronounciation right.
"Hello, my name is Liinus Toorvalds, and I pronounce Liinux as Liinux."
Which is exactly why I coined the more accurate acronym expansion "Digital Compatibility Prevention".
I can't wait for the fun when a major manufacturer - say Sony or LG - gets hacked and has their HDCP key spread over the net and hence revoked. And everyone's TV stops doing what was paid for because of stupid restrictions. That is the danger of HDCP, and its further-reaching brother DRM (Draconian Restrictions on Media) - that a company you have never heard of can, remotely, disable your equipment. Through no fault of your own, you get labelled a thief, and you're left with a pile of junk that doesn't work.
That is exactly my point. HDCP should be boycotted, and I will not buy any equipment which subscribes to such draconian measures. That means no players, no consoles, no screens, no scalers, no tuners, and no mixers which have the ability to either encode or decode HDCP.
Whether it uses DVI or HDMI or HD-SDI is irrelevant. HDMI is actually quite a good cabling specification (although given that HD-SDI (with embedded six-channel AES audio) goes over coax, rather expensive); HDCP however, which can be present on any digital link, is what I am boycotting.
Yes, but that's not the point. I want a TV capable of native 1080p, with digital inputs (even if they're not used on the 360), and without any Draconian Restrictions on Media.
Me. Just as soon as I can find one without Digital Compatibility Prevention.
Nobody is forcing you yet. Until Vista-logo PC's ship with TCPA chips which do actively prevent you from running Linux; when it's impossible to buy a PC without being required to use Microsoft DRM pre-infected and unremovable - then it will be too late.
You can vote with your dollars all you want; just remember that if you do, Microsoft will have several billion votes more that you.
I call it Draconian Restrictions on Media. And it's not a trojan, but it is a virus. The requirement to use approved software to read media which you have paid for is ridiculous.
When said software executes (which you can't prevent if you're running Windows), it does actually infect your media files. It prevents you from reading files you created with any other software. And that is an infection.
But the objection to DRM is much, much worse than merely wanting to play music in your car.
The whole RIAA/DMCA crap is just a cover for one Microsoft-sponsored ploy - to enforce using particular software for any particular reason. It's what Palladium is about. And once They are able to arbitrary change the restrictions on what you, the computer user, can do, you have lost any freedom you may have once had. Mandatory software can do anything it wants; including spying on you, logging keys and phoning home.
Imagine your computer had a built-in camera which you were unable to turn off due to the DMCA - you might, say, be recording what's on screen with a video camera and selling the resulting discs on eBay, and we wouldn't want that. Imagine everything you do is then recorded and analysed by the NSA, just in case you might be a thoughtcriminal. The word of the day is terrorist, but you can just as easily substitute paedophile (the Lovejoy argument) or whoever is today's Emmanuel Goldstein.
Big Brother is here, in the form of Palladium. And that is why DRM is evil.
Boycott HDCP. Demand a television without High Definition Digital Compatibility Prevention. Use DVI instead. Or do what the studios do and use HD-SDI.
Buy a high quality digital mixer/scaler for all your inputs. If you happen to have already bought a player which will not work with your very expensive non-HDCP-encumbered scaler, demand your money back.
http://www.nineplanets.org/intro.html
That should be www. eight planets.org
What is this "niological" field of which you speak? I would like to know more.
I fear that this entire article will be subject to Hartman's Law of Prescriptivist Retaliation.
You know, this is the best troll I've heard in a while. And it's scored "+5 informative". Wow.
1) DLLs are shared across processes. If one process loads a DLL, it resides in physical memory, at a specific virtual address. If another process loads the same DLL, it reuses the same copy in physical memory, but in a different virtual address space. It may even be loaded at a different virtual address in the second process. The pages are read-only so any attempt by either process to modify them will result in an access violation.
2) Windows explorer is a process which exists as an application called explorer.exe. It is started when you log on to Windows, and explorer.exe links to mshtml.dll and shdocvw.dll. These are the IE core DLLs (the Microsoft HTML parser and the Shell Document View, respectively). It also happens to link to gdiplus.dll, gdi.dll, user.exe, ntdll.dll and a bunch of others.
3) Internet explorer is a very small application (a few hundred KB compiled) which links into shdocvw.dll and mshtml.dll. It also happens to link to a bunch of other DLLs like ntdll.dll.
4) Firefox is another application. It links to such Windows DLLs as ntdll.dll and user.exe. It also happens to link to gecko.dll, which no other Windows application will load. Therefore when Firefox starts up, it is going to be the first to load gecko.dll.
5) Going back to point 1; every time any application loads a specific DLL, the loader will check to see if it is already present in physical memory, and will create a new virtual mapping for it. The physical memory used is shared across each process. When Windows starts, it loads the IE core DLLs. Most of IE is in memory by the time you can view the desktop. Firefox however, has a much smaller percentage of the application in memory before you click on it.
Hence: Most of IE is loaded before you click on the IE icon. Most of Firefox is not loaded until you click on the IE icon.
Plusnet rock. Up to 8 meg downstream with no limits for £14.99 a month. And you get wide open ports and a static IP address. Great for bittorrent, hosting your own web server, gaming... And apparently they now throw in VOIP, just for the hell of it.
And the referrals program means you may end up not even having to pay for any of it. Tell them negativezero sent you.