These are tags in the uniforms of CHILDREN. It is as orwellian as putting RFID in my dogs.
I think the fine point here is, it's as Orwellian as who putting RFID in your dogs?
The police? Animal Control? A neighbor? The Chinese restaurant down the street?
They're your dogs, and legally children (in the U.S., anyway) are considered the property of parents until the age of majority. But these are mandated uniforms. Other parents may not want their children tagged, and their choice doesn't seem to matter quite so much. I would think this would be opt-in so that it would. Either way, the child's choice doesn't enter into it which is par for the course. It'll all come out in therapy twenty years down the line, and that's only if the kids don't start clipping the RFIDs off their uniforms anyway.
I just had a similar discussion with Slashdot's "Tunneling Under London" story, in terms of what fortification was possible and whether it was enough. Perhaps if they can fortify tunnels that well, they could fortify mountain dwellings.
In the U.S. at least, I'd say turnabout is fair play.
But India? That's awesome! Perhaps it won't be long before we'll have an influx of Indian attorneys on the freelancer sites, plying their trade for reasonable amounts. When I consider the long-term trends of lawyers or attorneys who are available online and whose services are affordable to the average person, I get a little more optimistic that the citizenry will become more able to take on corporate and government corruption effectively. Societally, that's a very good thing.
Of course, it would be a lot better for them if the education wasn't cost-intensive because it had to come from an overpriced university. There's not a lot of justification (that I'm aware of) for why those curricula couldn't come from affordable online learning courses. Perhaps we're beginning to see the market notice a need for that.
And it makes you wonder why businesses trend towards it, if the workplace results are so obvious.
We've encountered the trends: Less staff. More workload per employee. It's literally detrimental to the business, yet they do it anyway. So, let's suppose there's another motivating factor at work here. What are some of the other results of this approach?
Raging unemployment. For every job posted, businesses have their pick of the litter of potential applicants. Salaries can decrease, because job applicants are desperate to get some job, any job, pleasethankyouthankyou. And once they're in, they can be overloaded with the tasks of more than one employee ("duties as assigned", it says in the contract) without the employees feeling like they can do anything about it without risking their rent-paying job. The hidden suburban phobia has always been to become homeless, and this has been successfully used to goad them en masse as desired. We may be encountering a new iteration of that here.
I'm probably wrong about this. It's probably all just one huge, systematic coincidence which - via pure dumb luck - has left employers at the top of the heap and employees doing more and more for less and less. But I write online, and my article describing how to assertively tell your employer to stop burdening you with an inordinate workload keeps getting more feedback than all but one of the other ninety or so articles I've written. It's always the same, horror stories about one employee in a company that's been downsized one or more times, and is now given the workload of two or three. It seems to be the standard pattern, and without assertive employees who know their rights being the norm, it will presumably continue if not increase.
The rather sensationalist headline aside, I think this writeup managed to get the concept totally backwards.
The point of government is to uphold the rights of the People with a system of laws and order. It's supposed to represent the People, and the People are supposed to select their representatives. Something doesn't magically become valid when the government adopts it any more than it magically becomes reprehensible just because a government condemns it (victimless drug crimes, I'm looking right at you here).
More and more of the People have accepted BitCoin. If digital currency becomes mainstream, then it's only the government that looks rather odd in refusing to adopt it themselves. Regardless, we don't need a government to smile on something in order for it to be legitimate. I live in the U.S. where, unique among all the countries in the world, sovereignty is supposed to dwell in the People rather than the government they made. And at this point, I still trust BitCoin encryption a heck of a lot more than I trust this government.
You conceded your point - and discredited yourself - when you defaulted on proving any of your offensive and irresponsible accusations. As you now lack the standing to speak with any validity, the conversation is over.
A little of both, actually. In case you were sincere:
I'm a political protester living off the grid and on the street. It can be very distracting trying to post from raucous shelters, being jostled and interrupted by rude people every few minutes. It happens wherever I get online from, but shelters are usually worse. I'm malnourished, which impairs cognition quality. And I have systemic candida albicans overproliferation, exacerbated from eating lots of cheap, starchy and near-expired shelter food. Candida overgrowth overloads the body with toxins and gives you the constant equivalent of a hangover, giving a person "brain fog" (they become mentally spacey). All of this, as the alternative to paying one red cent to the federal government and becoming an accomplice to their crimes against humanity, at home or abroad. (If everyone refused to subsidize the government until it shaped up, then it necessarily would. They don't, and so I end up taking a lot of flak for refusing to be a party to it - while society just carries on around me, falling to bits as it goes.)
Now this I love. You're working the whole Khazar thing in. How much time do you spend on Storm Front? Own any Nazi paraphenalia? Burn crosses often? I'm glad your Jew-hatred has come out for all to see.
Slashdot readers note: This is, as I've already mentioned, typical Khazar behavior. Anyone who does not accept them is immediately said to be any number of things. This is not only characteristic, it's highly irresponsible behavior.
Now that you've repeated against me the same tactics you tried with Savantissimo - and which I've already pointed out are typical Khazarian blame-shifting tactics to put others on the defensive - I'd like to see you back up your accusation. Any of them, actually. Pick one and show proof, or be publicly branded a troll.
Face it: [propaganda deleted] I'm sure if you got the chance, there would be plenty of "Khazar" blood on your hands.
Don't be silly; it's been on their own hands every time it's happened. I work in metaphysics, and have frequently enforced upon people the very backlash from their own kharma. Nothing more, and certainly nothing less. But Khazars are treasonous to the countries they infiltrate, and that being a capital offense should be tried in a court of law were our society not so eroded by your peoples' efforts.
My Jewish friends follow the Torah, and have not only known what I was talking about but agreed with me when I've asked them about your fraud of a former kingdom with them. I suspect other readers of Slashdot will encounter the same thing, if they ask around with their Jewish friends.
Meanwhile, your people are having more urgent concerns as the governments of the world - willingly or otherwise - purge themselves of corruption. Evidently, one only rips off the Asian societies for trillions once before they resolve matters with finality. When things become dire for you, I've heard that your people are going to be able to seek refuge in North Korea once the purge reaches street level. Take that news from me as an effort towards pity, and consider packing now.
From the brief: "It wouldn't be in the 'public interest' to release the information. Strange how the public seems to have a high degree of interest in finding out what's being talked about."
We get a lot of that disagreement between the citizens and the government here in the States as well. And when tax time comes along, I apply the same reasoning to whether or not paying them would be "in the government interest". Or the public's.
If everyone did that, governments would shape up PDQ out of sheer necessity. Even if the politicians and the courts don't work, the People still have recourse. Which reminds, tax time is almost here in the U.S.. Pay them any non-negative amount you think they're worth.
Ah, I see you're a true Christian, or perhaps a Muslim. You are wishing suffering upon me, a Jew.
Sure about that? Because you sound exactly like a Khazar posing as a Jew, much to the chagrin of the actual Jewish community.
Guilt trips and slick PR spin whenever someone challenges the countless Israeli atrocities. You're no Jew. Their Torah expressly forbids even having a Jewish state, let alone planting it smack dab on top of Palestinian territory and opting for gun turrets rather than fences, so the Palestinians have to guess where the boundary line is and back off even more.
Do you honestly think it's all just bits of soft sandy soil under the ground?
No, and I hadn't been trying to give that impression.
Neither do I think that quantities of houses and automobiles are made of foam rubber. If you excavate large swaths of the foundation, island or not, there's going to be trouble.
My parents were homeowners, and the city decided it would pump the freshwater under the neighborhood and sell it. That alone caused significant property damage as the land settled due to the lowered water table. And that was just water; I wouldn't like to think what would happen removing massive amounts of the earth.
"Meanwhile, in Asia, signs of harmony and unity are multiplying. Discussions last week in Korea between a White Dragon Society representatives and South Korean representatives reached agreement in principle on many issues. First of all, the South Koreans agreed on unification between North and South Korea based on the principle of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un a ceremonial post (perhaps “symbol of unity”) and a palace. After North South unification, talks could begin on greater East Asian economic and political integration.
"The South Koreans also agreed to the plan to set up a new international economic planning agency in Japan so long as it was also possible to set up a major new private sector financial center near Pusan, South Korea."
At least two posters corrected it. I thanked one nicely, acknowledged my error, and explained why - partially in order to share a bit of insider info that I thought would interest people.
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These are tags in the uniforms of CHILDREN. It is as orwellian as putting RFID in my dogs.
I think the fine point here is, it's as Orwellian as who putting RFID in your dogs?
The police? Animal Control? A neighbor? The Chinese restaurant down the street?
They're your dogs, and legally children (in the U.S., anyway) are considered the property of parents until the age of majority. But these are mandated uniforms. Other parents may not want their children tagged, and their choice doesn't seem to matter quite so much. I would think this would be opt-in so that it would. Either way, the child's choice doesn't enter into it which is par for the course. It'll all come out in therapy twenty years down the line, and that's only if the kids don't start clipping the RFIDs off their uniforms anyway.
I just had a similar discussion with Slashdot's "Tunneling Under London" story, in terms of what fortification was possible and whether it was enough. Perhaps if they can fortify tunnels that well, they could fortify mountain dwellings.
Or just use the tunneling machine to build fortified tunnels that would make great, cheap, near-limitless low-income housing. If a thousand people are willing to live in the flooding sewers underneath Las Vegas, this would make for a much better alternative.
Young lawyers, on the other hand, are screwed.
In the U.S. at least, I'd say turnabout is fair play.
But India? That's awesome! Perhaps it won't be long before we'll have an influx of Indian attorneys on the freelancer sites, plying their trade for reasonable amounts. When I consider the long-term trends of lawyers or attorneys who are available online and whose services are affordable to the average person, I get a little more optimistic that the citizenry will become more able to take on corporate and government corruption effectively. Societally, that's a very good thing.
Of course, it would be a lot better for them if the education wasn't cost-intensive because it had to come from an overpriced university. There's not a lot of justification (that I'm aware of) for why those curricula couldn't come from affordable online learning courses. Perhaps we're beginning to see the market notice a need for that.
And it makes you wonder why businesses trend towards it, if the workplace results are so obvious.
We've encountered the trends: Less staff. More workload per employee. It's literally detrimental to the business, yet they do it anyway. So, let's suppose there's another motivating factor at work here. What are some of the other results of this approach?
Raging unemployment. For every job posted, businesses have their pick of the litter of potential applicants. Salaries can decrease, because job applicants are desperate to get some job, any job, pleasethankyouthankyou. And once they're in, they can be overloaded with the tasks of more than one employee ("duties as assigned", it says in the contract) without the employees feeling like they can do anything about it without risking their rent-paying job. The hidden suburban phobia has always been to become homeless, and this has been successfully used to goad them en masse as desired. We may be encountering a new iteration of that here.
I'm probably wrong about this. It's probably all just one huge, systematic coincidence which - via pure dumb luck - has left employers at the top of the heap and employees doing more and more for less and less. But I write online, and my article describing how to assertively tell your employer to stop burdening you with an inordinate workload keeps getting more feedback than all but one of the other ninety or so articles I've written. It's always the same, horror stories about one employee in a company that's been downsized one or more times, and is now given the workload of two or three. It seems to be the standard pattern, and without assertive employees who know their rights being the norm, it will presumably continue if not increase.
The rather sensationalist headline aside, I think this writeup managed to get the concept totally backwards.
The point of government is to uphold the rights of the People with a system of laws and order. It's supposed to represent the People, and the People are supposed to select their representatives. Something doesn't magically become valid when the government adopts it any more than it magically becomes reprehensible just because a government condemns it (victimless drug crimes, I'm looking right at you here).
More and more of the People have accepted BitCoin. If digital currency becomes mainstream, then it's only the government that looks rather odd in refusing to adopt it themselves. Regardless, we don't need a government to smile on something in order for it to be legitimate. I live in the U.S. where, unique among all the countries in the world, sovereignty is supposed to dwell in the People rather than the government they made. And at this point, I still trust BitCoin encryption a heck of a lot more than I trust this government.
I don't click links from trolls, I report them.
You conceded your point - and discredited yourself - when you defaulted on proving any of your offensive and irresponsible accusations. As you now lack the standing to speak with any validity, the conversation is over.
I appreciate your concession, troll.
A little of both, actually. In case you were sincere:
I'm a political protester living off the grid and on the street. It can be very distracting trying to post from raucous shelters, being jostled and interrupted by rude people every few minutes. It happens wherever I get online from, but shelters are usually worse. I'm malnourished, which impairs cognition quality. And I have systemic candida albicans overproliferation, exacerbated from eating lots of cheap, starchy and near-expired shelter food. Candida overgrowth overloads the body with toxins and gives you the constant equivalent of a hangover, giving a person "brain fog" (they become mentally spacey). All of this, as the alternative to paying one red cent to the federal government and becoming an accomplice to their crimes against humanity, at home or abroad. (If everyone refused to subsidize the government until it shaped up, then it necessarily would. They don't, and so I end up taking a lot of flak for refusing to be a party to it - while society just carries on around me, falling to bits as it goes.)
A margin of patience is appreciated.
Possibly. They are the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, and were started offshore because since they're a private corporation, they wouldn't be lawful within the U.S..
Now this I love. You're working the whole Khazar thing in. How much time do you spend on Storm Front? Own any Nazi paraphenalia? Burn crosses often? I'm glad your Jew-hatred has come out for all to see.
Slashdot readers note: This is, as I've already mentioned, typical Khazar behavior. Anyone who does not accept them is immediately said to be any number of things. This is not only characteristic, it's highly irresponsible behavior.
Now that you've repeated against me the same tactics you tried with Savantissimo - and which I've already pointed out are typical Khazarian blame-shifting tactics to put others on the defensive - I'd like to see you back up your accusation. Any of them, actually. Pick one and show proof, or be publicly branded a troll.
Face it: [propaganda deleted] I'm sure if you got the chance, there would be plenty of "Khazar" blood on your hands.
Don't be silly; it's been on their own hands every time it's happened. I work in metaphysics, and have frequently enforced upon people the very backlash from their own kharma. Nothing more, and certainly nothing less. But Khazars are treasonous to the countries they infiltrate, and that being a capital offense should be tried in a court of law were our society not so eroded by your peoples' efforts.
My Jewish friends follow the Torah, and have not only known what I was talking about but agreed with me when I've asked them about your fraud of a former kingdom with them. I suspect other readers of Slashdot will encounter the same thing, if they ask around with their Jewish friends.
Meanwhile, your people are having more urgent concerns as the governments of the world - willingly or otherwise - purge themselves of corruption. Evidently, one only rips off the Asian societies for trillions once before they resolve matters with finality. When things become dire for you, I've heard that your people are going to be able to seek refuge in North Korea once the purge reaches street level. Take that news from me as an effort towards pity, and consider packing now.
From the brief: "It wouldn't be in the 'public interest' to release the information. Strange how the public seems to have a high degree of interest in finding out what's being talked about."
We get a lot of that disagreement between the citizens and the government here in the States as well. And when tax time comes along, I apply the same reasoning to whether or not paying them would be "in the government interest". Or the public's.
If everyone did that, governments would shape up PDQ out of sheer necessity. Even if the politicians and the courts don't work, the People still have recourse. Which reminds, tax time is almost here in the U.S.. Pay them any non-negative amount you think they're worth.
Ah, I see you're a true Christian, or perhaps a Muslim. You are wishing suffering upon me, a Jew.
Sure about that? Because you sound exactly like a Khazar posing as a Jew, much to the chagrin of the actual Jewish community.
Guilt trips and slick PR spin whenever someone challenges the countless Israeli atrocities. You're no Jew. Their Torah expressly forbids even having a Jewish state, let alone planting it smack dab on top of Palestinian territory and opting for gun turrets rather than fences, so the Palestinians have to guess where the boundary line is and back off even more.
Well they did have to import the names from overseas; there was probably a shortage.
Sort of reassuring to know that Australia still had plenty of lag, even in the 1800's.
That's sincerely reassuring then, and I thank you. I hadn't thought they could successfully reinforce tunnels a tenth of a kilometer wide.
Um, what?
My mistake. The article brief sizes the equipment at 150 metres, corrected in the comments to 140 metres.
What I'd missed was that they were 140 metres long, not wide. Naturally I freaked.
Thanks for the correction.
That's sincerely reassuring then, and I thank you. I hadn't thought they could successfully reinforce tunnels a tenth of a kilometer wide.
Good to know, thank you. We're actually both right. And thanks.
Do you honestly think it's all just bits of soft sandy soil under the ground?
No, and I hadn't been trying to give that impression.
Neither do I think that quantities of houses and automobiles are made of foam rubber. If you excavate large swaths of the foundation, island or not, there's going to be trouble.
My parents were homeowners, and the city decided it would pump the freshwater under the neighborhood and sell it. That alone caused significant property damage as the land settled due to the lowered water table. And that was just water; I wouldn't like to think what would happen removing massive amounts of the earth.
Never mind, Penrith is Australian. Still funny though.
People being unnecessarily offensive on the internet or off, alas, does not disturb my present world view.
Appreciated, thank you. It all looks smaller on Google Maps, but a 1:1 scale would probably be unfeasible.
London's system appears to be conveniently bi-directional.
We may as well get all of the Dune references out of the way here in this one thread.
London. On an island, right?
Brilliant idea. Someone hasn't played Jenga, apparently.
Don't make up some bizarre story that you and other people in the know already consider them to be one country.
As of February 27th, 2012:
"Meanwhile, in Asia, signs of harmony and unity are multiplying. Discussions last week in Korea between a White Dragon Society representatives and South Korean representatives reached agreement in principle on many issues. First of all, the South Koreans agreed on unification between North and South Korea based on the principle of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un a ceremonial post (perhaps “symbol of unity”) and a palace. After North South unification, talks could begin on greater East Asian economic and political integration.
"The South Koreans also agreed to the plan to set up a new international economic planning agency in Japan so long as it was also possible to set up a major new private sector financial center near Pusan, South Korea."
I wrote too quickly and made a mistake.
At least two posters corrected it. I thanked one nicely, acknowledged my error, and explained why - partially in order to share a bit of insider info that I thought would interest people.
Perhaps you were waiting for a blood atonement?