Apparently there's more than one thing which causes this. This is another reason why open source is better than proprietary software. If something like this were to occur on Linux I'd be able to diagnose the problem by now. On Windows it is significantly more cumbersome to identify which programs are supposed to put icons in the tooltray and why they're being blocked.
Sometimes. Why would I want an OS which sometimes breaks? Either it breaks or it doesn't. What's with this sometimes? Windows still sucks.
So this explains why on my employer's laptop running WinXP SP2 I have the following problem:
Their login sequence includes loading the AV software and a few network IT notices. Sometimes this works, sometimes it doesn't.
Sometimes the volume icon appears in the tool tray. Sometimes it doesn't. I must then go to the control panels, Sound and Audio Options, disable the tooltray icon, apply, and then re-enable it.
Sometimes the Power Meter icon (userful for battery monitoring on a laptop) appears in the tool tray. Sometimes it doesn't. I must then go to the control panels, Power Monitor, disable the tooltray icon, apply, and then re-enable it.
Sometimes the icon for the automated network backup system appears in the tool tray. Sometimes it doesn't. I don't know how to cycle it if it doesn't appear.
Sometimes the icon for "Add/remove hardware" (aka hotplug) appears in the tool tray. Sometimes it doesn't. I don't know how to cycle it if it doesn't appear.
This is why Linux is both cheaper and better. Some things work and some things don't. But I have never had this "sometimes" bullshit on Linux.
We're not even a Republic anymore. A republic is defined by a charter document. The Federal Government has been outright ignoring that document (specifically, the 9th and 10th Amendments) since the very first Congress.
The USA is today what we used to call a "banana republic". Same regime, different faces, same bullshit, with a piece of paper (which nobody follows anyway) to show the media and the UN.
You can say the USA is capitalist but, in your definition, any society which has a monetary system is capitalist. A more meaningful definition of capitalist makes it exclusive from Communist or Socialist. The USA definitely expresses powers and authorities typical of Communist and Socialist regimes.
I don't really have much argument with your point. I just wish people would quit with the capitalism bashing bandwagon. It's really no better than name-calling because there's no basis for it. All of the evils which people lump on capitalism are really evils caused by government graft and corruption. Widespread graft and corruption are symptoms of a dysfunctional communist or socialist system.
A true Republic according to the United States' Constitution would still have some graft and corruption (every system will by default) but the Federal Government would be so small that it wouldn't make much difference to everyday taxpayers.
most don't even have a CD-ROM attached to the machine. The networks are closed (no direct internet access)
That's only true of the systems which actually hold secret/top secret information. A system's breach of their office computers could potentially be every bit as bad.
the machines with CD-ROMs/RWs have their lasers aligned differently so as to not be able to be read on a standard drive
Can you provide a link to back this up? This sounds like vaporware. Is that a 1/2 turn for secret CD drives and 1/3 turn for top secret? Or are the individual CDs marked with a cryptic code that tells the user which alignment to use? Is there a How To Properly Align You Top Secret CDROM SOP in the room with white noise?
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Because we live in a democratically elected plutocracy.
By associating it with democracy, though, that makes it all better. We're all supposed to be happy that corporate profits supersede individual rights and property.
These are a few people who are true "alpha" males and are very successful in their respective fields
Hardly.
George Bush: He's a beta male propped up by a wealthy family and lots of political connections. Donald Trump: Even Donald Trump, when dealing with investors, know when to keep his mouth shut. Bill Gates: An alpha male? What are you shooting for, Funny? Steve Jobs: Steve Jobs has figured out how to stare everyone else down. He doesn't need to jump in conflict, as the arguing party seems to think is required for conflict.
Being an alpha male requires playing the card game. It does not require trash talk on every hand.
You have no examples as to "how it works in the business world"
You have no idea.
I have cited a couple of high profile alpha males who are highly successful in the business world because they walk their talk
Michael Jordan's wife has him by the nuts. TO just got his ass spanked. Dennis Rodman does what? Manage street corners these days? Would you care to cite any examples of alpha males who were allowed to keep shooting their mouths off past the point when their immediate usefulness ended?
There's a big difference between the behavior of an alpha male in the wilderness (where inflicting death is an acceptable form of asserting dominance) and the behavior of an alpha male in human society governed by etiquette.
Linus has learned this difference. Apparently you haven't.
A true alpha male would assert dominance in every way and absorb the impact
That's not the way it works in the business world. Every alpha male that has acted the way you suggest in the business world eventually ends up with their balls stuffed in their mouth. Either you learn when to hold your tongue, learn when to act civil, and learn when and where it's acceptable to overtly assert dominance, or you learn what your nuts taste like.
It's not cowardice. It's the alpha male syndrome. Alpha males, in our society, tend to get beat on by authorities for frightening the people around them. This is mostly because bleeding heart liberals think that everyone is special. Even the idiots who challenge an alpha male's authority without having the strength to back it up are, after the subsequent beat-down, given a lollipop and coddled while the alpha male gets disciplined for being such a meany-monster. Some alpha males learn how to be timid and soft-spoken in person so that no one can say they felt physically intimidated.
On e-mail lists there's no possibility of a physical attack so alpha males are free to express themselves fully.
I'm not against that, it would just make setup 50 times easier if they had an entry "3Com this'n'that'" instead of just "Tulip"
Six years ago I would have agreed with you. Then, as I've already pointed out, I discovered the magic of Googling for "linux $make $model" to find what you need in about 10 minutes. I figured this out 6 years ago and now I agree with the practice of referring to cards by their hardware chipset since that's the point of view that the kernel devs have. I'm passing this knowledge on to you. It's GPL, you may choose to share it, but should you modify it you must provide all down-the-road recipients with the source and a reference back to me as your teacher.
1 bad printer... against the other 4000 that do work.
1 bad DVD-RW... against the other 4000 that do work.
1 bad scanner... okay, in the scanner field, that's a 1/5 chance.
1 bad digital camera... okay, since most digital cameras are tied to the USB legacy, that's probably a 1/5 chance.
Maybe you should just consider better purchasing decisions? It's not impossible to find a large number of those devices which do work with Linux. I hope you buy the right size underwear.
Maybe because your post is not in touch with reality?
Good one.
You cannot "give them 10 out of 10 with fewer bugs" today
Okay. You're right. 9 out of 10 with fewer bugs... and that's still better than the proprietary sector. Considering open source has a skeleton budget with no explicit support from the hardware manufacturers, realistically, you'd expect 3/10 with 50% bugs. It says quite a bit that we can achieve an equal, if not greater, level of functionality without formal funding or support at all. The only way proprietary software stays ahead is by constantly starving the alternatives for funding.
When I can do better on $1 than you can on $100 maybe it's time you accept that there's something wrong with you.
there's no way in hell I'd recommend Linux to my parents
Perhaps it's time to reconsider whether your parents, or 90% of the population, need a computer at all.
That's not the same as saying all hardware will work on all distros, as your original post said
Forgive me for the 5% of hardware where the manufacturers are specifically excluding open protocols and access. There's always going to be something which doesn't work. Who's out of touch with reality?
You don't consider someone who has an MSc in CS
Letters after your name don't impress me.
works full time porting Xen to 64 bit processors, and uses Gentoo for his work system "clued up"?!
Apparently not if you're still whining about not being able to find the Tulip driver.
I found a driver on 3Com's pages which was so broken that I had to rename the files
What are you talking about? Do you know how long the Tulip driver has been in the kernel?
For Pete's sake... get your head out of your butt and quit whining. As if claiming to work on a Gentoo system at work exempts you from sounding like an MS apologist or, worse, an MS fanboy.
'specially considering the several weeks I've used in total on different distros to make my hardware work
If it works on even one distro it can work on any distro.
Often, long time Linux users have given up after trying for hours
This is a statistical effect. It will change as a larger percentage of users clue up.
than using days to dig forth the simple fact that the Tulip driver is what I need for my 3Com NC
I've found that if you Google for "linux $make $model" of just about any piece of hardware you'll find a reference to the proper kernel driver within 10 minutes. Don't blame Linux if you lack Google-fu.
the simple fact remains that users are not willing to spend neither hours nor days to get their newest USB thingie working
This is only a problem because MS and their affiliate companies are actively trying to get in the way of progress in the name of securing their intellectual property. It's not even about the product anymore. The entire computing industry could have standardized on an updated SCSI implementation for a high speed gadget bus 15 years ago but the MS/Intel cartel, with their affiliated mobo manufacturers, couldn't stand the prospect of not holding a mobo monopoly. The money-grubbing "mine! all mine!" behind the intellectual property business model was so silly obvious when USB was rolled out that I've spent the last 10 years in shocked disbelief that the industry swallowed it without so much as a peep. More recently everyone thinks they're all uber-leet because they have an SATA RAID drive. Looks to me like SATA is an IDE layer embedded within SCSI. "Hey, look at me! I'm all uber-leet because I've got an 1/8"-to-coax-to-USB-to-1/4"-to-banana-plug-to-1/8" stereo adapter!" The key feature here being that with the proprietary USB in the middle MS can demand their tithe for every sale. Likely they've also hedged out a simple 1/8"-to-1/8" combination using some unholy patent position.
How come this isn't obvious to anyone else? It's plain as day to me. Why do you people even bother arguing with me anymore?
When you express such cosmic insight as in this statement:
Before Einstein, NOBODY EVER NEVER EVER thought that time was a variable. NOBODY EVER NEVER EVER thought that space-time can be warped. NOBODY EVER NEVER EVER thought that mass and the energy were the same. NOBODY!!!
Then just what do you expect? Of course I'm going to wisecrack because your blatant display of utter ignorance is so monumentally baffling.
The wheel was forgotten the first time it was invented. It was forgotten the second time, and the third time, and the fourth time. It was forgotten the 100th time. It wasn't about somewhere around the 5000th time that the wheel was invented that it was invented in the right situation where the idea propagated.
The ideas which result in Nobel Prizes are the same way.
You could say I'm just that far ahead of you. Noob.
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That's not an issue here. Sorry.
Apparently there's more than one thing which causes this. This is another reason why open source is better than proprietary software. If something like this were to occur on Linux I'd be able to diagnose the problem by now. On Windows it is significantly more cumbersome to identify which programs are supposed to put icons in the tooltray and why they're being blocked.
Sometimes. Why would I want an OS which sometimes breaks? Either it breaks or it doesn't. What's with this sometimes? Windows still sucks.
So this explains why on my employer's laptop running WinXP SP2 I have the following problem:
Their login sequence includes loading the AV software and a few network IT notices. Sometimes this works, sometimes it doesn't.
Sometimes the volume icon appears in the tool tray. Sometimes it doesn't. I must then go to the control panels, Sound and Audio Options, disable the tooltray icon, apply, and then re-enable it.
Sometimes the Power Meter icon (userful for battery monitoring on a laptop) appears in the tool tray. Sometimes it doesn't. I must then go to the control panels, Power Monitor, disable the tooltray icon, apply, and then re-enable it.
Sometimes the icon for the automated network backup system appears in the tool tray. Sometimes it doesn't. I don't know how to cycle it if it doesn't appear.
Sometimes the icon for "Add/remove hardware" (aka hotplug) appears in the tool tray. Sometimes it doesn't. I don't know how to cycle it if it doesn't appear.
This is why Linux is both cheaper and better. Some things work and some things don't. But I have never had this "sometimes" bullshit on Linux.
We're not even a Republic anymore. A republic is defined by a charter document. The Federal Government has been outright ignoring that document (specifically, the 9th and 10th Amendments) since the very first Congress.
The USA is today what we used to call a "banana republic". Same regime, different faces, same bullshit, with a piece of paper (which nobody follows anyway) to show the media and the UN.
You can say the USA is capitalist but, in your definition, any society which has a monetary system is capitalist. A more meaningful definition of capitalist makes it exclusive from Communist or Socialist. The USA definitely expresses powers and authorities typical of Communist and Socialist regimes.
I don't really have much argument with your point. I just wish people would quit with the capitalism bashing bandwagon. It's really no better than name-calling because there's no basis for it. All of the evils which people lump on capitalism are really evils caused by government graft and corruption. Widespread graft and corruption are symptoms of a dysfunctional communist or socialist system.
A true Republic according to the United States' Constitution would still have some graft and corruption (every system will by default) but the Federal Government would be so small that it wouldn't make much difference to everyday taxpayers.
Can you provide a link to back this up? This sounds like vaporware. Is that a 1/2 turn for secret CD drives and 1/3 turn for top secret? Or are the individual CDs marked with a cryptic code that tells the user which alignment to use? Is there a How To Properly Align You Top Secret CDROM SOP in the room with white noise?
It's: Save big money at Menard's
Because we live in a democratically elected plutocracy.
By associating it with democracy, though, that makes it all better. We're all supposed to be happy that corporate profits supersede individual rights and property.
You rootkit Sony!
The world is so mixed up these days.
Real gamers are like real cinema fans--they recognize that the popular western market hasn't put out anything new in 10 years.
It took me a moment to figure out that GC was used as "game console" and not as "gas chromatograph".
George Bush: He's a beta male propped up by a wealthy family and lots of political connections.
Donald Trump: Even Donald Trump, when dealing with investors, know when to keep his mouth shut.
Bill Gates: An alpha male? What are you shooting for, Funny?
Steve Jobs: Steve Jobs has figured out how to stare everyone else down. He doesn't need to jump in conflict, as the arguing party seems to think is required for conflict.
Being an alpha male requires playing the card game. It does not require trash talk on every hand.
Michael Jordan's wife has him by the nuts. TO just got his ass spanked. Dennis Rodman does what? Manage street corners these days? Would you care to cite any examples of alpha males who were allowed to keep shooting their mouths off past the point when their immediate usefulness ended?
No.
Linus has learned this difference. Apparently you haven't.
That's not the way it works in the business world. Every alpha male that has acted the way you suggest in the business world eventually ends up with their balls stuffed in their mouth. Either you learn when to hold your tongue, learn when to act civil, and learn when and where it's acceptable to overtly assert dominance, or you learn what your nuts taste like.
It's not cowardice. It's the alpha male syndrome. Alpha males, in our society, tend to get beat on by authorities for frightening the people around them. This is mostly because bleeding heart liberals think that everyone is special. Even the idiots who challenge an alpha male's authority without having the strength to back it up are, after the subsequent beat-down, given a lollipop and coddled while the alpha male gets disciplined for being such a meany-monster. Some alpha males learn how to be timid and soft-spoken in person so that no one can say they felt physically intimidated.
On e-mail lists there's no possibility of a physical attack so alpha males are free to express themselves fully.
1 bad printer... against the other 4000 that do work.
1 bad DVD-RW... against the other 4000 that do work.
1 bad scanner... okay, in the scanner field, that's a 1/5 chance.
1 bad digital camera... okay, since most digital cameras are tied to the USB legacy, that's probably a 1/5 chance.
Maybe you should just consider better purchasing decisions? It's not impossible to find a large number of those devices which do work with Linux. I hope you buy the right size underwear.
Okay. You're right. 9 out of 10 with fewer bugs... and that's still better than the proprietary sector. Considering open source has a skeleton budget with no explicit support from the hardware manufacturers, realistically, you'd expect 3/10 with 50% bugs. It says quite a bit that we can achieve an equal, if not greater, level of functionality without formal funding or support at all. The only way proprietary software stays ahead is by constantly starving the alternatives for funding.
When I can do better on $1 than you can on $100 maybe it's time you accept that there's something wrong with you.
Perhaps it's time to reconsider whether your parents, or 90% of the population, need a computer at all.
Forgive me for the 5% of hardware where the manufacturers are specifically excluding open protocols and access. There's always going to be something which doesn't work. Who's out of touch with reality?
Letters after your name don't impress me.
Apparently not if you're still whining about not being able to find the Tulip driver.
What are you talking about? Do you know how long the Tulip driver has been in the kernel?
For Pete's sake... get your head out of your butt and quit whining. As if claiming to work on a Gentoo system at work exempts you from sounding like an MS apologist or, worse, an MS fanboy.
This is a statistical effect. It will change as a larger percentage of users clue up.
I've found that if you Google for "linux $make $model" of just about any piece of hardware you'll find a reference to the proper kernel driver within 10 minutes. Don't blame Linux if you lack Google-fu.
This is only a problem because MS and their affiliate companies are actively trying to get in the way of progress in the name of securing their intellectual property. It's not even about the product anymore. The entire computing industry could have standardized on an updated SCSI implementation for a high speed gadget bus 15 years ago but the MS/Intel cartel, with their affiliated mobo manufacturers, couldn't stand the prospect of not holding a mobo monopoly. The money-grubbing "mine! all mine!" behind the intellectual property business model was so silly obvious when USB was rolled out that I've spent the last 10 years in shocked disbelief that the industry swallowed it without so much as a peep. More recently everyone thinks they're all uber-leet because they have an SATA RAID drive. Looks to me like SATA is an IDE layer embedded within SCSI. "Hey, look at me! I'm all uber-leet because I've got an 1/8"-to-coax-to-USB-to-1/4"-to-banana-plug-to-1/8
How come this isn't obvious to anyone else? It's plain as day to me. Why do you people even bother arguing with me anymore?
Then just what do you expect? Of course I'm going to wisecrack because your blatant display of utter ignorance is so monumentally baffling.
Sweet. You're on to ranting.
Keep going. You might be on to something.
Over the last 6 hours I've watched that post go from 1-5-4-5-4. The silly part is that it's completely truthful and the mods still kick it.
:) From the ref's perspective, you'd mod it down.
What would you do if the ref were easily trollable?
Mods are easily trolled.
Similarly Einstein was building off of earlier ideas.
Derivative work? Do you understand what that means? What are you, 8 years old?
The truth isn't complex.
You speak of MS, Apple, IBM...
and then you have...
Hobbyist FOSS devs!
Vague my ass. You're just looking for the stock market clue.
The wheel was forgotten the first time it was invented. It was forgotten the second time, and the third time, and the fourth time. It was forgotten the 100th time. It wasn't about somewhere around the 5000th time that the wheel was invented that it was invented in the right situation where the idea propagated.
The ideas which result in Nobel Prizes are the same way.
You could say I'm just that far ahead of you. Noob.
You try arguing with the trolls though. Imagine how much it takes to knock them down at every angle.