It WAS brought up when Bush made his executive order
Forget the political perspective. Why did the scientists use cultures which would introduce Neu5Gc if it was going to render their entire stem cell inventory useless? They wouldn't. Someone's making a crater out of a divet for political purposes.
And now that they are contaminated, they are useless
If I read correctly, they've _always_ been contaminated. The logical question is,"Didn't anyone think about this ahead of time?" Why is it suddenly so important to be so meticulous now and do everything from the ground up?
It's sound like political bellyaching to me. If the inclusion of the Neu5Gc had potential problems, wouldn't the scientists have anticipated it ahead of time? These are supposedly world class researchers. For everyone to come up, 5-10 years later, and say,"Oooops. We just realized..."
Would you mind explaining how you can compare the GPL, a license to distribute information, with democracy, a system by which representatives are elected who will ultimately have the power to legally speak for their constitutents?
Sure it is, once you turn the code into a solid state device and build it into a router. I've heard that 80% of network traffic gets routed through Virginia at one point or another. This is not technically impossible.
Rightly so. If someone's keeping a secret from me, they're probably using it against me. Quite possibly they're using the secret to embezzle funds, like insider trading.
If people made less money by buying Monsanto's seeds, those people would fail and would stop buying Monsanto's seed.
That's arguable. Considering the market share that Monsanto has they can afford to subsidize the success of their member farmers and still be profitable.
Making money by not paying Monstanto and receiving the benefits of their technology is called "stealing".
Morally I'm with you but there isn't a single company on the planet which has demonstrated moral character in my eyes. Companies don't get my moral consideration.
I guess lawyers are entitled to a job just like anyone else. Litigating against customers still doesn't sit right with me. Unless the farmer was into a prostitution ring (or whatever) on the side then he's still a productive member of society and, in my opinion, the company should suck it up as expected risks of being in business. No, I don't think that should be a tax writeoff. I don't want to pay for someone else's bad business model.
Good points but I've progressed past them. In reality, things are just the other way around.
Objecting to law enforcement operating without proper controls is futile. Proper controls are always argued on a case by case basis anyways, as well they should be.
Objecting to the cost of law enforcement is the only real consideration. This is the way it works. If we don't object to the cost there will always be a need for more money. Not putting a cap on the cost is inviting corruption.
Instead, the bureau turned to unnamed commercially-available products to conduct Internet surveillance thirteen times in criminal investigations in that period.
How much does it cost? I'm really sick of paying for this crap.
1) You sign a license when you buy the seeds and you agree not to replant. Simple.
I'm going to take the same stance that I take with the media companies:
What the &$@% did you expect a farmer to do? What do farmers do? They plant seeds. If you don't like it, quit selling to that farmer. Lawsuits against customers are unacceptable.
GM tomatoes are $1.25 a pound here in the US, Organic non GM tomatoes are 3.95 a pound
After the hurricanes in Florida, the tomatoes around here have gone up to $2.75 per pound, on average. It's silly. How come Ragu or Prego or Hunt's tomato sauce hasn't gone up if there's such a big tomato shortage? Just because I want to make some decent tomato sauce suddenly there's a shortage of tomatoes.
We have hydroponics, beefsteak, and some real nice red ones that come in still on the vine. Those make the best sauce. I don't think the store up the road has any organic tomatoes.
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It WAS brought up when Bush made his executive order
Forget the political perspective. Why did the scientists use cultures which would introduce Neu5Gc if it was going to render their entire stem cell inventory useless? They wouldn't. Someone's making a crater out of a divet for political purposes.
You demonstrate a few dozen cells have human consiousness
How about here?
And now that they are contaminated, they are useless
If I read correctly, they've _always_ been contaminated. The logical question is,"Didn't anyone think about this ahead of time?" Why is it suddenly so important to be so meticulous now and do everything from the ground up?
It's sound like political bellyaching to me. If the inclusion of the Neu5Gc had potential problems, wouldn't the scientists have anticipated it ahead of time? These are supposedly world class researchers. For everyone to come up, 5-10 years later, and say,"Oooops. We just realized..."
No. I'm not buying it.
The world's best research sees its first incarnation on bar napkins across the globe.
Dumbass. Don't you know that weather is a considerable factor in military operations?
Nothing better for profit than paying twice.
Hmmm.. let's take energy transmitted on one wavelength and use an oscillator to convert it to energy of another wavelength.
It starts with photosynthesis...
it does break down in a few areas
Only in the important ones. Say, control over funding?
Who cuts your paycheck?
Democracy _can_ be perverted, as the GPL can
Would you mind explaining how you can compare the GPL, a license to distribute information, with democracy, a system by which representatives are elected who will ultimately have the power to legally speak for their constitutents?
I'd love to hear it.
As democracy protects us (in principle)
Yes, it's that "in principle" part which tells you to just stfu 'cuz nothing you say after that means a gosh darn thing.
this is by far the most stupid thing I've ever seen
Of course. Would it be any other way?
Fsckin' troll.
IRC as a chat medium was rendered irrelevant
Anyone who prefers IM to IRC is a wannabe or an outright knob.
with the advent to the vast majority of internet users
The vast majority of internet users are wannabes or outright knobs.
A very few people use IRC for chat
Have you ever even used IRC?
open source developers are among the last legitimate users
Remove "last" and you have a legitimate statement. Most people are on IRC just to screw around.
Have you read bash.org recently?
Tcpdump is not even a ballpark comparison
Sure it is, once you turn the code into a solid state device and build it into a router. I've heard that 80% of network traffic gets routed through Virginia at one point or another. This is not technically impossible.
Secrets must be kept in order to remain safe
Keeping secrets fosters suspicion, not safety.
Rightly so. If someone's keeping a secret from me, they're probably using it against me. Quite possibly they're using the secret to embezzle funds, like insider trading.
If people made less money by buying Monsanto's seeds, those people would fail and would stop buying Monsanto's seed.
That's arguable. Considering the market share that Monsanto has they can afford to subsidize the success of their member farmers and still be profitable.
Making money by not paying Monstanto and receiving the benefits of their technology is called "stealing".
Morally I'm with you but there isn't a single company on the planet which has demonstrated moral character in my eyes. Companies don't get my moral consideration.
I guess lawyers are entitled to a job just like anyone else. Litigating against customers still doesn't sit right with me. Unless the farmer was into a prostitution ring (or whatever) on the side then he's still a productive member of society and, in my opinion, the company should suck it up as expected risks of being in business. No, I don't think that should be a tax writeoff. I don't want to pay for someone else's bad business model.
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All involved parties just lost all credibility.
Michael has irritated a lot of people over the years
You're not doing anything worthwhile unless someone gets PO'd.
Quote from somewhere. I like it.
It's called Goodwill.
Does that still exist? Everything is about the law these days.
Good points but I've progressed past them. In reality, things are just the other way around.
Objecting to law enforcement operating without proper controls is futile. Proper controls are always argued on a case by case basis anyways, as well they should be.
Objecting to the cost of law enforcement is the only real consideration. This is the way it works. If we don't object to the cost there will always be a need for more money. Not putting a cap on the cost is inviting corruption.
RTFA? It wasn't even three paragraphs in...
That's such a crappy article, no wonder they pulled it. I'm surprised Google even bothers to cache it.
Instead, the bureau turned to unnamed commercially-available products to conduct Internet surveillance thirteen times in criminal investigations in that period.
How much does it cost? I'm really sick of paying for this crap.
You should say if you don't like it, go get some other job
You just demonstrated about Level 25 Troll. Holy cow.
1) You sign a license when you buy the seeds and you agree not to replant. Simple.
I'm going to take the same stance that I take with the media companies:
What the &$@% did you expect a farmer to do? What do farmers do? They plant seeds. If you don't like it, quit selling to that farmer. Lawsuits against customers are unacceptable.
This legal hogwash has got to go.
GM tomatoes are $1.25 a pound here in the US, Organic non GM tomatoes are 3.95 a pound
After the hurricanes in Florida, the tomatoes around here have gone up to $2.75 per pound, on average. It's silly. How come Ragu or Prego or Hunt's tomato sauce hasn't gone up if there's such a big tomato shortage? Just because I want to make some decent tomato sauce suddenly there's a shortage of tomatoes.
We have hydroponics, beefsteak, and some real nice red ones that come in still on the vine. Those make the best sauce. I don't think the store up the road has any organic tomatoes.