Exactly right. I have both Linux and OS X for a reason. I let Linux do the serving and when I want to play with a fast no BS operating system I use Linux. When I want to get work done or put desktops on non geek folks desks I use OS X. The OSs live together quite nicely.
I built mine from the 1976 popular electronics. It looekd pretty much like http://www.incolor.com/bill_r/elf/html/elf-1-33.ht mlBecause it was full static I debugged it with a volt meter and a switch where the xtal should have gone.
First program... 0x7B 0x7A 0x30 0x00 (turn on the q bit led, turn it off, jump to 0..)
Why oh why do I still remember this stuff and can't remember 5 items on my wife's grocery list.
Here too. The Beyond Micro enclosure with the NEC chipset (Aluminum) seems to no longer be seen, but the older 911 chipset shiny grey plastic enclosure still works.
No data loss when I pulled the driver and moved it.
The difference is that since OS X is UNIX based it is much harder to infect the computer. A virus might be able to blow away the user but it's going to have a much harder time setting itself up as an executable that will attack the rest of the network.
OS X comes with the root account disabled and a normal user cannot even sudo a program owned by someone else, so an a virus that want to escalate itself to root is not going to work. That leaves the virus without anywhere important to go. UNIX was designed with the idea that users are idiots when it comes to security, and not to be trusted.
Only a fool would think that it's impossible to write a virus for Mac, but on a difficulty scale I'd rate Windows as trivial and OS X as very hard. It's not about popularity, it's that BSD UNIX (underneath OS X) has had somethng like 30 years of folks hammering on it and was designed to be multi-user and secure from the start. Same goes for Linux.. Windows was designed to be easy for a user to use, but not designed to live on a hostile network, and it shows.
As for the multitude of hardware, that's a fair point but what does work with OS X "just works" so you never find yourself in some sort of dll hell. In fact, unless it's a security or os update, you almost never even reboot the darn computer.
Did I mention that the computer quite literally never crashes?
Yep. Same here. My wife is the Tech for a Geology Dept. at Ohio U. Whe she started there was her and one other Mac person. Now half the department has G5 Macs.
She spends 98% of her tech support time with the windoze folks.
Every time another virus runs amok, she adds another Mac person.. Last time, she got all of the professors in one room and had the ones with the virus raise their hands. Then all of the Mac people raise theirs.. Her Quote. "You are smart people. There is a lesson to be learned here."
For me, the only only time I boot windows is in VirtPC to play poker. Otherwise, I don't even give it a thought
Like she says.. Mac OS X has none of the stability and security that you associate with Windows...
256 bytes of code/ram toggled in from slide switches.. Since the 1802 is full cmos I debugged the wiring by putting a toggle switch where the xtal goes and stepped it one machine state at a time..
First program.. (Q was a one bit output tied to a LED)
set q #turn on an led reset q #turn it off. jmp 0
I remember wondering why the LED seemed to stay on, until I measured 2 volts at the LED and realized that the computer was blinking it too fast for me to see.
I dawned on me how "fast" computers were, and I was hooked.
I always thought the idea was to secure the transmission of data. If I hunt down foo.com on the web, I'm not really worried that their IP has been spoofed, I just don't want my transaction to be sniffed.
Shouldn't the browsers accept any cert for an SSl connection and that the "norm" be that everyone self signs?
People killed at home by family members are highly atypical. The great majority of these victims have had to call the police to their homes before, because of domestic violence, and just over half have had the cops out several times. These are not just ordinary people who happened to lose their temper when a gun was at hand.
Neither are most "children" who are killed by guns just toddlers who happened to find a loaded weapon lying around. More of those "children" are members of teenage criminal gangs who kill each other deliberately.
Some small children do in fact get accidentally killed by guns in the home -- but fewer than drown in bathtubs. Is anyone for banning bathtubs?
I guess the real problem is that science demands theories that can be tested for falsehood..
Consider that I can substitue ANY imagined creature for God and end up in the same place.
Faires created species.. is as valid as God.. or..Zeus.. No I can't show you a fairy.. Nor you show me God.. It's an impasse.
What you end up with is what is sometimes called 'God in the cracks' That is, anything that we can't explain yet, is assumed to be the part that God did.
As soon as we fill in that crack with science.. God must move to the next problem.
Also, near Giradelli (sp?) square is a gallery for the guy that does some of the star trek backgrounds. Uses high voltage to achieve some really cool effects. Good ol' Google..
His name is David Archer
Well my 1956 Chevy had a tube radio (and every other car of the era), so I don't think it's a big deal to have tubes in cars.
It's just new to the kids among us:-)
Now that was a computer. 6502, keyboard, 4K ram
video modulator..Kansas City standard cassette.
You haven't lived until understand the difference between indexed indirect and indirect indexed.
Or perhaps you haven't lived if you do.;-)
My brother still has one running a mirror ball on a dance floor. (Poor kid)
71 Disable
30 90 BRANCH PC+90
F8 08 Load Immediate 08 Put Low R3
A3 Set P = Reg 3 (I think)
Never heard of it;-)
I wire wrapped my first 1802 from the Popular Electronic's article in (1976-7??). Debugged it by replacing the xtal with a switch and stepped it one machine state at a time..
I bought an OSI "Super Board" (no case of course) for $279.00 from a local vendor and made a channel 3 modulator from a 7504 a coil and a variable cap.. Screwed up every tv the entire apt. complex..
I wanted a comadore PET at the time but the darn price was too high.
I did port microchess from the KIM-2 listings and used the OSI character set to create a "visual" chess (that was fun)
My first real computer job was doing 8008 assembler using a asr 33 teletype to papertape and burning the code into 1702 EEPROM's (256 bytes ea.) but was able to leverage my 1802 knowledge to change jobs and work on an real "blue and white" COSMAC. I still have the COSMAC with dual 8" drives in the attic somewhere..
Some kids have no idea about the joy of figuring out the difference between indexed-indirect and indirect-indexed on a 6502.
I was using the web a long time before the commercial interests came along and was sharing ideas and information quite nicely thank you. A good 90+% of the web is such crap that you couldn't pay me to read it and the added cost to the infrastructure is, in essense, paying for the support of all that crap. I say let it die.
If SlashDot went away tomarrow, someone's site would become the next/.
If not, then it wasn't going to make it anyway.
If ABC news stopped having a web site.. then NBC would declare that a weakness of ABC and use it to gain market share. IF all of the "big" compaies decided to drop web support, I don't think that many folks would care. It would be "oh well
I guess I'l have to watch the nightly news."
I agree 100%. Just look at the treatment of David Horowitz. He wanted a rational discourse about the slave reparations movement, but the assholes didn't have the intellectual capability to handle a debate. I can only assume that they were aware of the weakness of their arguments and chose to hide behind yelling and shouting.
True randomness does exist. Radioactive decay is the prime example, and there are random number generators that use radioactive decay as their seed. I think it was DEC (could be wrong) that used to have an online random number generator based on the position of the "bubbles" in a Lava Lamp. There is noting deterministic about their location. Pseudorandomness is a result of lazy programming not an immutable property of a computational universe.
'We can build a better product than Linux,'' he said. ''
Then why don't they?
Let's see.. Having the freedom to dispose of your creations as you see fit. To freely exchange source code with those of like mind.. That's "Freedom and the American Way."
The MS way is called Slavery.
What a pile of B.S.
OSX on X86.. It was called NeXTSTEP/OpenStep
on
OS X on x86?
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· Score: 3
And it was a thing of beauty, far more advanced than Linux and it was that years ago.. OSX is just a minor look and feel change, so if they don't do it, it's just for business reasons.
It's Steve's little red wagon and you never know when he's going to make a turn...
To drift off topic..
I was a NeXT developer from the beginning, at one point you could compile a NeXTSTEP app for X86, Sparc, HP's PA-RISC, and their 68040 based slab and have the executable's exist in ONE package as the result of ONE compile.
The source was compiled into what we would call a Quad-FAT application and the underlying MACH OS would figure out at runtime which processor's code it needed to load. (Linux could take a lesson here)
I could hand a user a disk and not know or care what processor they were using.
They didn't allow the development of shared libraries at the time, so you never had to worry about problems like which version of GTK was installed, or fall into RPM hell trying to resolve what version of which library is orisn't loaded.
The real beauty was the development system, there is nothing that even comes close to comparing to the ease of InterfaceBuilder and ProjectBuilder in the Linux world.. If you never used it you really wouldn't believe how advanced it was(is),
This was pushing 10 years ago and there is still nothing close in ANY OS (Not Windoze or Linux)
Their libraries were so well thought out that after you were programming in the system for awhile you could think "gee" there should be a routine name "xx" and sure enough it was there.
CORBA..Yetch.. Because of the run time binding of Objective-C We could "publish" an Object with literally TWO lines of code and connect to it with another application with ONE line of code... No STUB compilers or any of that crap..
It was playing to ALL of the NeXTSTEP strengths, but we used to developer "Mac Write" as the 5 minute demo for programmers. (including font changes, fax capability, printing, color RTF text with embedded images and the ability to access services like "Webster" for spell checking.
Man do I miss that system..
Perhaps in another 10 years Linux will be close, but I doubt it.
A great number of states don't count absentee ballots at all unless the they could change the winner. I heard an estimate that 2 million ballots wouldn't be counted for this reason. If the pattern of 70% going for Bush held then he would be the popular vote winner as well.
They are ALMOST where NeXT was 12 years ago. Except their GUI stills sucks, no bundled voice mail, not multi user, more security holes than Los Alamos and their MAMA was CPM;-)
Can't wait to see how the PC rags just RAVE about this.
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Exactly right. I have both Linux and OS X for a reason. I let Linux do the serving and when I want to play with a fast no BS operating system I use Linux. When I want to get work done or put desktops on non geek folks desks I use OS X. The OSs live together quite nicely.
Just choose the right tool for the job.
=c=
First program... 0x7B 0x7A 0x30 0x00 (turn on the q bit led, turn it off, jump to 0..)
Why oh why do I still remember this stuff and can't remember 5 items on my wife's grocery list.
Here too. The Beyond Micro enclosure with the NEC chipset (Aluminum) seems to no longer be seen, but the older 911 chipset shiny grey plastic enclosure still works.
No data loss when I pulled the driver and moved it.
chuck
Security is where you want to look.
There are smart card PC/SC links on that page that mention the kind of cards that should work.
Chuck
OS X comes with the root account disabled and a normal user cannot even sudo a program owned by someone else, so an a virus that want to escalate itself to root is not going to work. That leaves the virus without anywhere important to go. UNIX was designed with the idea that users are idiots when it comes to security, and not to be trusted.
Only a fool would think that it's impossible to write a virus for Mac, but on a difficulty scale I'd rate Windows as trivial and OS X as very hard. It's not about popularity, it's that BSD UNIX (underneath OS X) has had somethng like 30 years of folks hammering on it and was designed to be multi-user and secure from the start. Same goes for Linux.. Windows was designed to be easy for a user to use, but not designed to live on a hostile network, and it shows.
As for the multitude of hardware, that's a fair point but what does work with OS X "just works" so you never find yourself in some sort of dll hell. In fact, unless it's a security or os update, you almost never even reboot the darn computer.
Did I mention that the computer quite literally never crashes?
She spends 98% of her tech support time with the windoze folks.
Every time another virus runs amok, she adds another Mac person.. Last time, she got all of the professors in one room and had the ones with the virus raise their hands. Then all of the Mac people raise theirs.. Her Quote. "You are smart people. There is a lesson to be learned here."
For me, the only only time I boot windows is in VirtPC to play poker. Otherwise, I don't even give it a thought
Like she says.. Mac OS X has none of the stability and security that you associate with Windows...
256 bytes of code/ram toggled in from slide switches..
Since the 1802 is full cmos I debugged the wiring by putting a toggle switch where the xtal goes and stepped it one machine state at a time..
First program.. (Q was a one bit output tied to a LED)
set q #turn on an led
reset q #turn it off.
jmp 0
I remember wondering why the LED seemed to stay on, until I measured 2 volts at the LED and realized that the computer was blinking it too fast for me to see.
I dawned on me how "fast" computers were, and I was hooked.
chuck
I always thought the idea was to secure the transmission of data. If I hunt down foo.com on the web, I'm not really worried that their IP has been spoofed, I just don't want my transaction to be sniffed.
Shouldn't the browsers accept any cert for an SSl connection and that the "norm" be that everyone self signs?
What am I missing?
chuck
To quote Dr. Thomas Sowell.
People killed at home by family members are highly atypical. The great majority of these victims have had to call the police to their homes before, because of domestic violence, and just over half have had the cops out several times. These are not just ordinary people who happened to lose their temper when a gun was at hand.
Neither are most "children" who are killed by guns just toddlers who happened to find a loaded weapon lying around. More of those "children" are members of teenage criminal gangs who kill each other deliberately.
Some small children do in fact get accidentally killed by guns in the home -- but fewer than drown in bathtubs. Is anyone for banning bathtubs?
Gun Control Myths II
Do a little research before buying into the gun control propaganda.
I guess the real problem is that science demands theories that can be tested for falsehood..
Consider that I can substitue ANY imagined creature for God and end up in the same place.
Faires created species.. is as valid as God.. or..Zeus.. No I can't show you a fairy.. Nor you show me God.. It's an impasse.
What you end up with is what is sometimes called 'God in the cracks' That is, anything that we can't explain yet, is assumed to be the part that God did.
As soon as we fill in that crack with science.. God must move to the next problem.
Chuck
Also, near Giradelli (sp?) square is a gallery for the guy that does some of the star trek backgrounds. Uses high voltage to achieve some really cool effects. Good ol' Google.. His name is David Archer
Well my 1956 Chevy had a tube radio (and every other car of the era), so I don't think it's a big deal to have tubes in cars. :-)
It's just new to the kids among us
Yep. At $40/barrel even the oil shale becomes worth taking.
Last estimate was that it would produce a 450 year supply.
Also Washington Times reports that some of the existing fields seem to be re-filling!
Potential oil supply refill
chuck
Now that was a computer. 6502, keyboard, 4K ram
;-)
video modulator..Kansas City standard cassette.
You haven't lived until understand the difference between indexed indirect and indirect indexed.
Or perhaps you haven't lived if you do.
My brother still has one running a mirror ball on a dance floor. (Poor kid)
From Memory..
;-)
71 Disable
30 90 BRANCH PC+90
F8 08 Load Immediate 08 Put Low R3
A3 Set P = Reg 3 (I think)
Never heard of it
I wire wrapped my first 1802 from the Popular Electronic's article in (1976-7??). Debugged it by replacing the xtal with a switch and stepped it one machine state at a time..
I bought an OSI "Super Board" (no case of course) for $279.00 from a local vendor and made a channel 3 modulator from a 7504 a coil and a variable cap.. Screwed up every tv the entire apt. complex..
I wanted a comadore PET at the time but the darn price was too high.
I did port microchess from the KIM-2 listings and used the OSI character set to create a "visual" chess (that was fun)
My first real computer job was doing 8008 assembler using a asr 33 teletype to papertape and burning the code into 1702 EEPROM's (256 bytes ea.) but was able to leverage my 1802 knowledge to change jobs and work on an real "blue and white" COSMAC. I still have the COSMAC with dual 8" drives in the attic somewhere..
Some kids have no idea about the joy of figuring out the difference between indexed-indirect and indirect-indexed on a 6502.
chuck
I was using the web a long time before the commercial interests came along and was sharing ideas and information quite nicely thank you. A good 90+% of the web is such crap that you couldn't pay me to read it and the added cost to the infrastructure is, in essense, paying for the support of all that crap. I say let it die.
/.
If SlashDot went away tomarrow, someone's site would become the next
If not, then it wasn't going to make it anyway.
If ABC news stopped having a web site.. then NBC would declare that a weakness of ABC and use it to gain market share. IF all of the "big" compaies decided to drop web support, I don't think that many folks would care. It would be "oh well
I guess I'l have to watch the nightly news."
This will be at least as effictive as our
Drug Tzar and cost a lot less in lives and money.
I have a hard time imagining this headline
"Missionary family blocked from net access. News at 11." Causing that much uproar.
Another $250 Million down the frelling toliet.
I agree 100%. Just look at the treatment of David Horowitz. He wanted a rational discourse about the slave reparations movement, but the assholes didn't have the intellectual capability to handle a debate. I can only assume that they were aware of the weakness of their arguments and chose to hide behind yelling and shouting.
True randomness does exist. Radioactive decay is the prime example, and there are random number generators that use radioactive decay as their seed. I think it was DEC (could be wrong) that used to have an online random number generator based on the position of the "bubbles" in a Lava Lamp. There is noting deterministic about their location. Pseudorandomness is a result of lazy programming not an immutable property of a computational universe.
'We can build a better product than Linux,'' he said. ''
Then why don't they?
Let's see.. Having the freedom to dispose of your creations as you see fit. To freely exchange source code with those of like mind.. That's "Freedom and the American Way."
The MS way is called Slavery.
What a pile of B.S.
And it was a thing of beauty, far more advanced than Linux and it was that years ago.. OSX is just a minor look and feel change, so if they don't do it, it's just for business reasons.
It's Steve's little red wagon and you never know when he's going to make a turn...
To drift off topic..
I was a NeXT developer from the beginning, at one point you could compile a NeXTSTEP app for X86, Sparc, HP's PA-RISC, and their 68040 based slab and have the executable's exist in ONE package as the result of ONE compile.
The source was compiled into what we would call a Quad-FAT application and the underlying MACH OS would figure out at runtime which processor's code it needed to load. (Linux could take a lesson here)
I could hand a user a disk and not know or care what processor they were using.
They didn't allow the development of shared libraries at the time, so you never had to worry about problems like which version of GTK was installed, or fall into RPM hell trying to resolve what version of which library is orisn't loaded.
The real beauty was the development system, there is nothing that even comes close to comparing to the ease of InterfaceBuilder and ProjectBuilder in the Linux world.. If you never used it you really wouldn't believe how advanced it was(is),
This was pushing 10 years ago and there is still nothing close in ANY OS (Not Windoze or Linux)
Their libraries were so well thought out that after you were programming in the system for awhile you could think "gee" there should be a routine name "xx" and sure enough it was there.
CORBA..Yetch.. Because of the run time binding of Objective-C We could "publish" an Object with literally TWO lines of code and connect to it with another application with ONE line of code... No STUB compilers or any of that crap..
It was playing to ALL of the NeXTSTEP strengths, but we used to developer "Mac Write" as the 5 minute demo for programmers. (including font changes, fax capability, printing, color RTF text with embedded images and the ability to access services like "Webster" for spell checking.
Man do I miss that system..
Perhaps in another 10 years Linux will be close, but I doubt it.
Time for a beer..
chuck
An Ex NeXT friend of mine has a T that says.. "The Gurney is the reward" Indeed it was..
A great number of states don't count absentee ballots at all unless the they could change the winner. I heard an estimate that 2 million ballots wouldn't be counted for this reason. If the pattern of 70% going for Bush held then he would be the popular vote winner as well.
When Ghandi was asked what he thought of Western Civilization he replied "I think that it would be a good idea."
Ditto for "Journalistic Integrity"
They are ALMOST where NeXT was 12 years ago. Except their GUI stills sucks, no bundled voice mail, not multi user, more security holes than Los Alamos and their MAMA was CPM ;-)
Can't wait to see how the PC rags just RAVE about this.