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To Boldly Paint What No Man Has Painted Before

David Mazzotta writes "It's not just Sci-Fi authors who have had influence on space technologies. Artist Chesley Bonestell produced beautiful space-art that inspiried people from Sagan to Heinlein."

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  1. Inspirations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's amazing to see how artists can portray our universe. While writers and directors often get the most exposure to the public, the vast universe has inspired equally impressive works from visual artists and musicians.

  2. Nice Art by Alec+Varezz · · Score: 1, Funny

    I must say..

  3. Can you buy these from somewhere? by jukal · · Score: 3

    ...or paper copies atleast, I mean seriously, those are amazing!

    1. Re:Can you buy these from somewhere? by pretzel_logic · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here is a a link to his book. It also has a pdf look inside feature.

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  4. some more links by pretzel_logic · · Score: 3, Informative
    • Here is a link to Chesley Bonestells web site where you can find more art.
    • His Bio,
    • And some more art is here.
    • But this one has a bunch of scans.
    • Other space artist links.
    this stuff is so cool...
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    1. Re:some more links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks! You have saved hundereds of people from putting his name into google and getting the same links at the top of the search!

    2. Re:some more links by webmaven · · Score: 2

      You can also buy limited editions of some of his work.

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  5. Re:Maybe something for open source programmers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1: Write free software
    2: ???
    3: Paint sci-fi pictures.
    4: Profit!

  6. Is He The Guy Who... by tealover · · Score: 3, Funny

    did the fake backdrops for the staged Moon Landings?

    If so, this guy is good! Bravo, take a bow !!

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    1. Re:Is He The Guy Who... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't worry. I thought it was funny and not flamebait.

    2. Re:Is He The Guy Who... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *LOL*

      Moderators simply have no humor.

  7. Britisher? by GLevangelist · · Score: 1

    That magazine was also publishing astronomical illustrations painted by a Britisher named Scriven Bolton...

    Oh dear me.

    1. Re:Britisher? by spinlocked · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, I think it's a word used in Nazi standard battlefield English. A dialect often found in hollywood war films, as in:

      "Hande Hoch! For you Britisher, ze vor is over."

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    2. Re:Britisher? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, no Nazi involvement here at all. A brief history of the term Britisher:

      http://www.xrefer.com/entry/441290

      Britisher

      [1820s: perhaps originating during or just after the American War of Independence (1776 - 83), to name a willing subject of the British king]. A person born in Britain. The term is both widely used and widely disowned. It was the first of the inclusive terms for people from Britain who may or may not be English: compare Brit, Briton. Typical of the unease surrounding such terms is a comment by Jawaharlal Nehru: 'Individual Englishmen, educationists, orientalists, journalists, missionaries, and others played an important part in bringing western culture to India, and in their attempts to do so often came into conflict with their own Government.... When I say Englishmen, I include, of course, people from the whole of Great Britain and Ireland, though I know this is improper and incorrect. But I dislike the word Britisher, and even that probably does not include the Irish. My apologies to the Irish, the Scots, and the Welsh' (The Discovery of India, 1946).

  8. Niiiiice by Chexsum · · Score: 0

    ...Im talking about Saturn as seen by Titan - not any of the others btw. =)

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  9. Re:Great new business-model? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of:

    1: Write free software.
    2: ?
    3: Wait tables.
    4: Profit!

  10. This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by SeverianDragon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have seen this artist before, I've run across him numerous times on the covers of sci-fi novels and in sci-fi and sci-fa magazines. I think his work is just beautiful. His inspiration? Space and progress, best as I can understand it.

    Unfortunately, this sort of art wouldn't fly in the "serious" art world. Not only is it tied to "main-stream" books and publications on space, but also to the sub-culture of Science Fiction genre writing. Ironically enough, the college that I attend looks down upon any person who does Genre Fiction. But I digress too much.

    Favorite Rant: The Art World today, is confused. It is full of artists, critics, curators and gallery managers who scrabble after the false god of "Art Has A Message". Sure it does. But is the artist required to draw a sodding road map?!? I know my professors will want me to do so for my senior show.

    Like I said before. Love the work! It's beautiful, expansive (both physically and temporally), and (dare I say?!? [dare! dare!]) pure(?). Would that artists of his calibre were more accepted in both the main-stream as forward thinking and artists-for-everyone. And in the art world as the master-artists they are, if only the art world could drop the pretentious BS that they have swallowed with their chocolate-covered strawberries and red wine at every art opening.

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    1. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Actually SF based art can succeed in the mainstream art world - even when it is a blatent rip off:

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/1044375 .s tm

    2. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by Angry+Toad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think it reflects badly on the academic art world, not art in general, that this man's work cannot be taken seriously. His work was appreciated by millions and influenced the vision of the universe of entire generations.

      Isn't that pretty much the definition of great art?

      There's a distinct snobbery at work here, but in the end who really cares - his work did what it set out to do.

    3. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by money_shot · · Score: 1

      I'm a fine artist who became a software engineer so I wouldn't have to deal with all the art BS that accompanies a career in art. It's not a bad place to be... I make good money and I paint what I want... which happens to be sci-fi inspired. My heroes are illustrators and level designers. The art world will take about 200 years to catch, so much of what we love may eventually land in an art history book.

      www.theartkolective.com/theartistjames

    4. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by money_shot · · Score: 1

      oops... made a mistake in my own link, it should be:
      www.artkolective.com/theartistjames

    5. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by webmaven · · Score: 3, Informative

      Thankfully, there is the Association of Science-fiction and Fantasy Artists which gives an annual award (The Chesley Award).

      The Chesley awards are presented each year at the World Science Fiction Convention, which this year (later this month, in fact) is in San Jose.

      The convention has an extensive art show, with many artists exhibiting their work.

      There is even a 'real-world' gallery devoted to space art.

      So, although the 'serious' art world looks down on this type of art, there are venues, and a market, for this work.

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    6. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by wedg · · Score: 2

      It's the simple distinction made between someone technically proficient and someone with inspiration or whatever you want to call it.

      I don't exactly agree with it, however. I feel the purest form is art for the love of art - not art with an agenda. And clearly, this artist paints because he loves to see his ideas come to life.

      I've always thought that the greatest work is not the one worth the most money, or that receives the best criticism - but the one that is viewed by others, and inspires them to want to create. I have notebooks full of sketches of space ships and airplanes and wot inspired by paintings like these.

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    7. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by PD · · Score: 2

      Good comeback to the critic: "I didn't make it for you."

      Worked for Dr. Frankenfurter...

    8. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by minh7749 · · Score: 1

      Art is weird anyways. I hardly call Picasso's paintings beautiful. They are absolutely ugly. Art critics look at crap and they can call it genius.

    9. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by Type-IIa · · Score: 0

      Christ what rubbish. Many of Picasso's paintings and drawings are absolutely beautiful and completely without peer. Maybe his Cubism confuses you, but it's still a landmark in human understanding of perception. Your comment is akin to: Shakespeare never wrote anything good. moron.

    10. Re:This guy's art and why I hate being an artist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      depending on your point of view, this man's art DOES have an agenda - the agenda is:
      Dream - stop destroying your little world and get your lazy butt off of it and into space.

      Unfortunately, the dominant agenda of today's zeitgeist is:
      Work - consume, make me richer still, so I can die a very stinkin filthy rich old man.
      (and this is the mindset that dominates today's art world too - make no mistake).

  11. Re:Who needs art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow that program is really great! Thanks for pointing it out!

    May you find peace and happiness my moderator friends.

  12. dead astronaut by fantomas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    this one [demon.co.uk] has a bunch of scans (pretzel_logic)


    Wow, interesting, the image of astronauts burying their dead comrade on Mars. Pretty contoversial stuff, it must have caused a real storm when that picture got published. Anybody know anything about that picture? Give the man his due for realism. Can anybody imagine NASA producing a series of artistic impressions these days including a burial scene?


    I suppose it follows in the great romantic tradition of the 'fallen hero' but respect to the man for telling the possible negative side of the story as well as the positive.



  13. Cool. All I can say is ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Klaatu barada nikto !

    1. Re:Cool. All I can say is ... by giel · · Score: 0

      Sorry, fins is niet mijn sterkste kant...

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  14. related news ;-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "To Boldly Paint What No Man Has Painted Before"

    When reading that, the second thing I thought of was
    this article.

  15. Red Dwarf by SWroclawski · · Score: 2, Funny

    Am I the only one, when reading the topic of the story, thought of the intro scene of Red Dwarf with the astronaught (Lister?) painting the outside of the ship?

    1. Re:Red Dwarf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

    2. Re:Red Dwarf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The neologism 'astronaught' used to describe Lister is so perfectly appropriate it makes one weep to think that it could only arise by accident!

      Marvellous!

  16. The Art by tommyleebyron · · Score: 1

    Art is a process where one combines mind and body, and internal and external experiences and then relates them into chosen formalities of art: line, shape, color, form, size, texture, content, etc. It is a non-verbal form of communication and expression, and both the art process and the art product contribute to the conversation which may transpire both within the creator himself as well as with others. An issue, feeling, or thought may be relayed more easily or with more truthfulness through the means of creating 2-D and 3-D art rather than through the art of conversation alone. Freud expressed the potential difficulties in verbal communication in terms of translating dream imagery into words: "I could draw it," a dreamer often says, "but I don't know how to say it"

  17. The man and his work were awesome... by Genda · · Score: 1

    I grew up on a steady diet of this man's art, and it was one of the seminal influences shaping my passion for astronomy, and space travel. How do you acknowledge somebody for shaping your dreams about what is possible in being human. The word awesome is sadly used to death, but it fully serves here. Anybody who dreams of visiting other worlds, seeing the vast reaches of the universe, and is over 40, got their first inspirations from this man.

  18. most refreshing! by tanveer1979 · · Score: 1

    wow. these were good. After stories of slowdown and RIAA and the bot and what not, comes chicken soup for the soul.
    I esp like the attention to detail. Most of the space art tends to be macro oriented, so you have classy supernovas and stuff like that, but it takes vision an ingenuity to plan reflections on solar panels!
    Esp commendable is saturn from TITAN, the lighting is great and the attention to shadows is real igneous. Hopefully our sci-fi movie ppl also take a vue adn start giving more attention to small details rather than grandoise.

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  19. Ideas spawned by the Collier's article... by smackdotcom · · Score: 1

    Click here to visit a neat site that explores a "what if?" scenario. In other words, what would it have been like if some of the ideas in that article in Collier's that included Bonestell's art had actually been carried out? It's an interesting project, and follow the gallery link to view the trailer (in mpeg format). Kind of neat to see it brought to life this way.

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  20. And leave us not forget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...that the producers of Star Trek: TNG named a ship after the guy, the Oberth-class science vessel USS Bonestell.

    Clearly, the best of all possible tributes. ;)

  21. Great work by software_non_olet · · Score: 2, Informative

    You may want to have a look at his own site too.

  22. Check out V. DiFate's book by awfar · · Score: 1

    Called Infinite Worlds; a very large "coffee table" book filled with scfi art. Cannot recommend highly enough.

  23. Models of this stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the '50's I built plastic model kits that were based on this guy's art in the Collier's magazine. There was a lot of background material written by Von Braun included in the kits about how the ship would operate. Seeing the pictures brought me back to those models.

  24. sagan and heinlein knew art! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    huh... and so why weren't sagan and heinlein appointed as directors of major art museums. The Man is trying to keep us down. what do declan and bruce have to say, lobby more? or paint more? all their base must have our art.

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  26. Re:Great new business-model? by rapidweather · · Score: 1

    Cars will be given away free if the buyer will pony up for the Insurance, where they make the real money. Kinda like HP giving away printers so you'll buy ink cartridges, where they make the real money.

  27. Artist in downtown SFO by metlin · · Score: 2

    Well, on most weekends, you can find this _amazing_ guy in downtown San Francisco, who paints sci-fi sceneries.

    He uses a few innovative techniques to create awesome astronomical scenes using spray paint, in under just about 3-5 minutes. It's really great to watch, but the paintings are a little costly, about $25-$35.

    The thing is, you can watch him paint it for you, and go on and buy it. If anybody's from in and around SFO, you can find him at Fisherman's Wharf, usually on Fri and Sat evenings. Neat stuff!

    1. Re:Artist in downtown SFO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of cheapskate are you? I don't know who or what you're writing about, but how much do you think he should make? Maybe you should make the same amount. I can't believe this ongoing crap that artists shouldn't make enough to live on.

    2. Re:Artist in downtown SFO by spamtrap · · Score: 1

      Also, near Giradelli (sp?) square is a gallery for the guy that does some of the star trek backgrounds. Uses high voltage to achieve some really cool effects. Good ol' Google.. His name is David Archer

    3. Re:Artist in downtown SFO by metlin · · Score: 1

      I think you're mistaken about what I said, I meant that I felt that the rates are costly for me, and not that it's high price for an artist.

      As a student, yes, $25 is significantly high for me, and I really do feel that he could be charging much higher for his talent.

      And yes, I do concur with you that artists are being underpaid, but unfortunately a large chunk of the ones who are paid so much do not deserve, esp. not in areas like fashion (la FTV stuff), while there are others in other segments like painting and sculpting who are underpaid. Please note that not once did I mention anything that artists must not make anything, or anything along those lines.

  28. Looking at the originals at the Planetarium in Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    cago... Made me actually consider theft. I *Really* wanted an original on the wall.

    My dad used to have a couple of copies of Colliers or Saturday evening Post or something that had the trip to the moon story (By VonBraun?). I read it over and over and over again. Sniff..

    If you are looking for a good book about this stuff, (i.e. visions of the future from the past) check out. Yesterday's Tomorrows.

    -- ac at home

  29. Man Conquers Space by Tom+Rothamel · · Score: 1

    For those who are interested, a CG movie is being made based on Bonestell's space art. It's called Man Conquers Space, and it's due out eventually... but you can find the home page and trailers on the web at http://users.bigpond.net.au/surfacesrendered/MCSHo mepage.html.

  30. Heinlein fans... by Ethanol · · Score: 1

    ...may recall the scene at the end of Stranger in a Strange Land in which Jubal Harshaw is writing a screenplay for a film of Michael's life. It begins, "Zoom in on Mars, using stock or bonestelled shots..."

    I wondered for years what "bonestelled" meant, until I found out about Chesley Bonestell.

  31. Paint THIS by lildogie · · Score: 1, Troll

    I'd like to see him paint a split infinitive!

  32. Check the usual sources for ... by nucal · · Score: 2

    If you can find it, get a copy of The Conquest of Space, pictures by Bonestell and text by Willy Ley - published in 1950 by Viking press. Has data on the solar system and describes the planets as they were known about 50 years ago. The art is amazing - in addition to the planets (which are mindblowing), there are some paintings of the Earth (e.g. NY, the Great Lakes, Europe) as they would be observed from 25-500 miles above the surface during suborbital "rocket" transportation in the future.

  33. abebooks by nucal · · Score: 2

    BTW, one good place for used books is abebooks.

  34. Anyone know the name? by ajs · · Score: 2

    There's an artist who did the same for dinosaurs. He painted in the early-to-mid part of last century, and did a lot of museum murals and such. Everyone from fantasy movie effects people (Harryhausen) to modern museum curators to paleantologists have been influenced by his take on dinosaurs, "cave men", and other topics that he worked on.

    The amazing thing is that he was nearly blind, and yet his paintings were more accurate than anyone had a right to be (we now know that some of his ideas were off, but suprisingly few, and much of his work remains in the territory of good guess, but we don't know).

    1. Re:Anyone know the name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Charles R. Knight
      From
      http://www.williamstout.com/generic/news/News.ht ml

      Charles R. Knight was the artist who defined dinosaurs for the rest of the world. Nearly every dinosaur book published between 1900 and 1960 contained examples of Knight's work. Knight painted the murals for the American Museum of Natural History (NY), the Field Museum of Natural History (Chicago) and the La Brea Tar Pit mural for the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County.

  35. Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i'd call them trolls who disfigure english grammar in their headlines.

  36. Multiple techniques by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    As an amature/hobbyist space artist myself, I quite well remember my dad's copy of Conquest of Space. I would study it for hours.

    One thing that used to puzzle me about Bonestell's works was that some parts appeared hand-painted, and other parts looked like photographs of actual rocks and mountains. IOW, there seemed to be an inconsistency from portion to portion of a given work.

    I later found out that Bonestell used a combination of techniques. He used to build clay and wood models using his motion picture experience and materials, and photograph them to study and experiment with. These photographs often made it into parts of his space art.

    I remember trying to duplicate the realism of some of his works as a teenager, never satisfied with the results. It seems I was trying to do the impossible: compete with photographs of clay models.

    There is one Bonestell painting of the Great Wall (IIRC) on the moon. There is one cliff face there that is almost certainly a photograph in retrospect, and I would bust my butt trying to reproduce that same photo-realistic look in color pencils, pastels, and acrylics; but could not. When I found out about the photos, I screamed in my head "No F*cken Wonder!" (it was late and I didn't want to wake anybody).

    BTW, some of my space art can be previewed at:

    http://geocities.com/astroviews/

    1. Re:Multiple techniques by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      This is some really nice art. Good work.

  37. Ron Miller is up for a Hugo by Patrick_Seaman · · Score: 1

    This is a wonderful book. I only wish my company had been the one to publish it! FYI, on the subject of this book, Ron Miller has been nominated for a Hugo at this year's WorldCon. Good luck Ron!!!

    Plug: Earlier this year he was awarded a Book of the Year award for his fantasy novel (which my company does publish) BRONWYN: PALACES & PRISONS.

    - Patrick Seaman
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  38. Looks a bit like Bryce work by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

    When I saw his snow-on-the-rocks in _Saturn as Seen From Titan_ in the story, I immediately throught "Bryce rendering". :-)

  39. Tomorrowlan by calidoscope · · Score: 1
    After seeing the I&T article, I was suddenly struck as to where Disney got the inspriation for the original Tomorrowland. The Eisner version just doesn't cur it for me (plus they can't even get the new rides right - i.e. the "Rocket Rods").

    There have been a couple of references about the recently deceased Ward Kimball (had the pleasure of meeting him 10 years ago) helping with the Collier's series on space travel. It would seem that the flow went both ways.

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