"Courier" was an idea that made it as far as a CGI drawing. That's as far as it can verifiably be proven to ever exist. Calling that "innovation" is like calling warp drive innovation.
You're not stating facts by calling people zealots. You are being insulting and spreading FUD. And binary compatibility is what matters so, yes, you have the red hat source. And since their tools run on red hat they also run on centos and scientific Linux which are both free. Some lock in. As far as disagreeing being a hate crime you obviously know something about that.
Wow. You Linux haters reach more everyday. So an operating system that you can download for free (and, yes, you can download the source to red hat) is lock in now? Straight out of the proprietard F U D book. You've done well. Bonus points for the 'Linux zealot' phrase.
The LHC experienced a two year delay from 2005 to 2007 due to budget issues
Yeah, and those budgetary issues had a lot more zeroes behind them than some Windows licenses would have. The price of proprietary OSs on every computer at CERN would be a rounding error compared to the overall cost of the project.
The LHC is probably the most important scientific installation on the face of the earth right now with international backing. Do you really think that they would blink at the price tag of Windows anything else if they wanted to use it? They use Linux because for their purposes it is better. Does anybody on this site engage brain before keyboard anymore?
Most of Nexus Q's non-silicon parts were made in the USA, including the die-cast zinc base. You're kidding yourself if you think that falls in the realm of "assembled in the USA" vs. "Made in the USA".
This is obviously an issue near and dear to your heart so I cordially took the time to read your entire rant waiting for the part where you would explain what Apple had actually invented rather than a list of simple iterations on the hard work put forth by others previous to them.
Ha ha. So, while you're busy trolling, have you even used it? Oh, you haven't? You're just a typical dime-a-dozen Android hater? Thought so. Now run along before people start snickering and throwing rocks at your crazy self.
The issue with Verizon would have easily been averted by just withholding the GSM and CDMA updates entirely until they were both ready no one being the wiser. What they did instead was release the GSM code when it was ready and waited until the CDMA stuff was Aldo ready before releasing that. But it gives you something to troll about so I guess it wasn't a complete loss.
Constructive criticism of the platform and its perceived issues are not attempts to "troll" or "spread meaningless FUD".
Then criticize the platform if that's what you want to do. All you've done so far is criticize the behavior of the various OEM's. You've been told over and over that if you want an Android device that gets guaranteed updates you get a Nexus. Since this article is about Jelly Bean, do you have any specific criticisms of it? Otherwise you are just continuing an off-topic rant.
I couldn't tell you but I do know this: I have a Galaxy Nexus with the pre-release version of Jelly Bean and my friend has one with ICS on it and mine with JB never stutters on scrolling after the initial view loads whereas my friend's does quite a bit. That's the most appreciated difference for me as stuttery scrolling drives me up the wall. Google nailed it with Jelly Bean. They really did.
How many iPhones are there? How many Windows Phone devices on the market right now will be upgradable to Windows Phone 8?
Yes, it is hard. Not every carrier offers a Nexus device.
Actually, you can get the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, Sprint and the GSM version works on At&t and T-Mobile with full data speeds. The iPhone works on less carriers than that.
Also, there still is no Nexus tablet. It hasn't shipped yet.
True but it is shipping in 2 weeks. The Xoom before it was the Google Experience tablet device and they have already confirmed Jelly Bean will be released for it.
Everyone is so happy and glad you have a Galaxy Nexus, but you're trying to defend against one of the most valid and popular complaints about the current Android ecosystem. Try again this time next year once Google has more Nexus phones and tablets on the store and some people have had time for their contracts to expire. Maybe then you can blame the more tech-savvy that they should've bought Google devices, because there may actually be some by then.
I'm just pointing out the fact that if people are so up in arms over Android updates, there is a simple solution. Just get a real Android device. They make it real easy for you, just ask for "Nexus" by name.
Now the focus is on the apps - to not look like amateurish pieces of crap. Other than maybe a handful of Android apps (e.g., Dolphin Browser), most Android apps look horrible, and outside of that handful, the ones that look good are that way because they came from iOS.
I've got lots of great looking apps on my Galaxy Nexus including AIDE, Aldiko, Amazon Kindle, Analytics, APV PDF Reader, Bank of America, Chrome, ConnectBot, Currents, Drive, Droid DJ, Dropbox, Earth, Elixir, Engadget, Evernote, FBReader, Final Fantasy, Firefox Beta, FPSe, Ghost Commander, gReader, Mass Effect, MoboPlayer, Opera Mini, PicSay, Play Books/Movies/Store, Pulse, ShadowGun, SpeedVIew, TED, Vi Improved Touch, VLC, Voice, and Youtube amongst several more and they all look just great. For reference, I also have an iPad with many apps and as a rule, the iPad apps don't look better. What are you running that looks so bad?
I just pulled up the latest score for the Yankees and Tampa bay game on Google now on my jelly bean galaxy nexus and it is much darker and clearer than your screen shot. I'd suggest using the real thing to base your judgments on.
How about just enjoy what you have without trolling? I have an HD7 windows phone as well as Android phones and I just like the Android phones better. Especially now that my Galaxy Nexus is running jelly bean and consequently super smooth thereby obliterating the last advantage windows phone has for me.
What I'm really glad with my GNex is that I can expect full updates in the future while my HTC windows phone will never see windows phone 8.
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"Courier" was an idea that made it as far as a CGI drawing. That's as far as it can verifiably be proven to ever exist. Calling that "innovation" is like calling warp drive innovation.
Just for the record, spell checking on a computer dates back to 1957. Seriously.
Not that it matters around here obviously (+4 Insightful?) but attacking the man rather than the argument usually tends to lose you credibility.
You're not stating facts by calling people zealots. You are being insulting and spreading FUD. And binary compatibility is what matters so, yes, you have the red hat source. And since their tools run on red hat they also run on centos and scientific Linux which are both free. Some lock in. As far as disagreeing being a hate crime you obviously know something about that.
Wow. You Linux haters reach more everyday. So an operating system that you can download for free (and, yes, you can download the source to red hat) is lock in now? Straight out of the proprietard F U D book. You've done well. Bonus points for the 'Linux zealot' phrase.
touché
The LHC experienced a two year delay from 2005 to 2007 due to budget issues
Yeah, and those budgetary issues had a lot more zeroes behind them than some Windows licenses would have. The price of proprietary OSs on every computer at CERN would be a rounding error compared to the overall cost of the project.
and not Windows licenses
The OS is a tool just like anything else. If Windows would have been more suited to the job they would have used it. They didn't.
specially when used in specialized applications that often translate to a heavily customized kernel and 1 userland binary.
The point is that it can be customized that way. Thanks for pointing out one of the reasons for CERN's choice.
and have no licensing fees attached probably have more to do with the choice
BS. This is CERN we're talking about. They can afford whatever they want and they chose Linux.
The LHC is probably the most important scientific installation on the face of the earth right now with international backing. Do you really think that they would blink at the price tag of Windows anything else if they wanted to use it? They use Linux because for their purposes it is better. Does anybody on this site engage brain before keyboard anymore?
Just cut to the chase. No true Scotsman.
So if I sculpt a bust from marble that was sourced from Italy, that means the bust was "Made in Italy"? Are you really arguing that?
Most of Nexus Q's non-silicon parts were made in the USA, including the die-cast zinc base. You're kidding yourself if you think that falls in the realm of "assembled in the USA" vs. "Made in the USA".
This is obviously an issue near and dear to your heart so I cordially took the time to read your entire rant waiting for the part where you would explain what Apple had actually invented rather than a list of simple iterations on the hard work put forth by others previous to them.
Thanks for nothing, man.
Ha ha. So, while you're busy trolling, have you even used it? Oh, you haven't? You're just a typical dime-a-dozen Android hater? Thought so. Now run along before people start snickering and throwing rocks at your crazy self.
The issue with Verizon would have easily been averted by just withholding the GSM and CDMA updates entirely until they were both ready no one being the wiser. What they did instead was release the GSM code when it was ready and waited until the CDMA stuff was Aldo ready before releasing that. But it gives you something to troll about so I guess it wasn't a complete loss.
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Yep...I was wondering when the troll^H^H^H^H leopard would show his spots.
Constructive criticism of the platform and its perceived issues are not attempts to "troll" or "spread meaningless FUD".
Then criticize the platform if that's what you want to do. All you've done so far is criticize the behavior of the various OEM's. You've been told over and over that if you want an Android device that gets guaranteed updates you get a Nexus. Since this article is about Jelly Bean, do you have any specific criticisms of it? Otherwise you are just continuing an off-topic rant.
I couldn't tell you but I do know this: I have a Galaxy Nexus with the pre-release version of Jelly Bean and my friend has one with ICS on it and mine with JB never stutters on scrolling after the initial view loads whereas my friend's does quite a bit. That's the most appreciated difference for me as stuttery scrolling drives me up the wall. Google nailed it with Jelly Bean. They really did.
All those Nexus products. All one of them.
How many iPhones are there? How many Windows Phone devices on the market right now will be upgradable to Windows Phone 8?
Yes, it is hard. Not every carrier offers a Nexus device.
Actually, you can get the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, Sprint and the GSM version works on At&t and T-Mobile with full data speeds. The iPhone works on less carriers than that.
Also, there still is no Nexus tablet. It hasn't shipped yet.
True but it is shipping in 2 weeks. The Xoom before it was the Google Experience tablet device and they have already confirmed Jelly Bean will be released for it.
Everyone is so happy and glad you have a Galaxy Nexus, but you're trying to defend against one of the most valid and popular complaints about the current Android ecosystem. Try again this time next year once Google has more Nexus phones and tablets on the store and some people have had time for their contracts to expire. Maybe then you can blame the more tech-savvy that they should've bought Google devices, because there may actually be some by then.
I'm just pointing out the fact that if people are so up in arms over Android updates, there is a simple solution. Just get a real Android device. They make it real easy for you, just ask for "Nexus" by name.
Now the focus is on the apps - to not look like amateurish pieces of crap. Other than maybe a handful of Android apps (e.g., Dolphin Browser), most Android apps look horrible, and outside of that handful, the ones that look good are that way because they came from iOS.
I've got lots of great looking apps on my Galaxy Nexus including AIDE, Aldiko, Amazon Kindle, Analytics, APV PDF Reader, Bank of America, Chrome, ConnectBot, Currents, Drive, Droid DJ, Dropbox, Earth, Elixir, Engadget, Evernote, FBReader, Final Fantasy, Firefox Beta, FPSe, Ghost Commander, gReader, Mass Effect, MoboPlayer, Opera Mini, PicSay, Play Books/Movies/Store, Pulse, ShadowGun, SpeedVIew, TED, Vi Improved Touch, VLC, Voice, and Youtube amongst several more and they all look just great. For reference, I also have an iPad with many apps and as a rule, the iPad apps don't look better. What are you running that looks so bad?
The main difference is when Chrome updates, my extensions still work. Firefox, sadly, not so much.
It gives trolls a convenient talking point too ;-)
I just pulled up the latest score for the Yankees and Tampa bay game on Google now on my jelly bean galaxy nexus and it is much darker and clearer than your screen shot. I'd suggest using the real thing to base your judgments on.
How about just enjoy what you have without trolling? I have an HD7 windows phone as well as Android phones and I just like the Android phones better. Especially now that my Galaxy Nexus is running jelly bean and consequently super smooth thereby obliterating the last advantage windows phone has for me.
What I'm really glad with my GNex is that I can expect full updates in the future while my HTC windows phone will never see windows phone 8.