Google can continue to live in a dream world and pay the price of ignoring patents
What are you talking about, man? Google already licenses a ton of patents and that's not what this is even about anyway. This is about an anti-trust complaint that happens to involve patents.
Or you can do what Barnes & Noble did and fight back hard ending up with a sweet deal and payout. I don't know why more manufacturers don't do that as B&N won big. I'm not saying I agree with what they ended up doing but they did make out like bandits by standing up to the bully.
Thank you for this very informative explanation. Sadly, it will be lost on most people as the "Google is teh Evil" meme is so strong on the internet right now. Just a suggestion (you may have done this I haven't checked), but would it be possible to summarize this and put it as a little disclaimer next to the phone number prompt so that people know what's going on and the trolls can't use it as anti-Google fodder?
HTC is not a patent troll. MOSAID is, e.g., non-practicing entity. The distinction is huge. HTC is a very large licensee of Android who was attacked by Apple for the express purpose of an outright shutdown. Not only was that an attack on HTC but it was an attack on Android itself. Of course Google is not going to stand there with their dicks in their hands. Contrast this with what MS and Nokia are doing. They bought a bunch of patents for the express purpose of transferring them to a text book patent troll to attack Android. Google is not attacking Windows phone and they are not attacking Nokia. The patents they transferred to HTC were for defense purposes against Apple. You can try to draw ridiculous parallels until the cows come home but ultimately as we saw with Oracle vs Google it's up to the court to sort it out. Armchair Google haters and paranoid tin hat wearers everywhere notwithstanding.
Do you have anything other than a tired disingenuous analogy you just pulled out of your ass? Because last I checked this specific anti-trust complaint is about Nokia and Microsoft backing patent trolls. Google has never done this. Furthermore, if there are legitimate complaints to be leveled toward Google then by all means do so. But to just make a blanket statement that Google shouldn't defend their interests (especially against something so underhanded as patent trolling) because "they did bad too HUr dur" is not a rational perspective.
Is there any end-to-end security between my handset and - for example - paypal.com or my bank? Opera Mini uses a transcoder server to translate HTML/CSS/JavaScript into a more compact format. It will also shrink any images to fit the screen of your handset. This translation step makes Opera Mini fast, small, and also very cheap to use. To be able to do this translation, the Opera Mini server needs to have access to the unencrypted version of the webpage. Therefore no end-to-end encryption between the client and the remote web server is possible.
If you need full end-to-end encryption, you should use a full web browser such as Opera Mobile.
So according to Opera, end to end encryption is "impossible" with Opera Mini and if you want it, use something else.
- I like being able to have two apps open. You can easily copy and paste between the two instead of having to launch and close each app multiple times.
On my Galaxy Nexus, there is a button on the bottom right that acts as essentially an alt-tab switcher. The apps do not open and close, and I can switch back and forth cutting and pasting as much as I want.
I like being able to flick apps I no longer need off of the screen. It is both simple and mentally satisfying. Hitting the back button multiple times in Android just to close an app is clunky, at best.
Again, on my Galaxy Nexus, I click the app switcher button at the bottom and any app I want to close I just drag out of the list.
Do you have citable evidence for this claim? Last I checked, IE was steadily losing market share despite being the default browser on 90+ percent of computers sold so obviously people do care about alternative as I highly doubt 50 percent of the market (people not using IE) can all be described as techies.
They do care about their phone not getting hacked.
Strawman. Also, many iPhone jailbreaks have been done through browser exploits and since there isn't any real alternative on iOS, the situation of only having Safari and Safari skinned browsers is actually worse for security.
What issue are you having? Audio has always worked flawlessly on my Lenovo G560 running Debian 6, Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04. The last legitimate issue I recall having was a conflict between pulse audio and Skype a couple of years ago on an Acer laptop but Skype was the only application that exhibited any issue so I assume the app itself was the guilty party. I can't remember the last time I've had any problems since then with either flash, windows games running through wine, mplayer or anything else.
Agree completely. The high school math here in the states, I.e., algebra, trig, geometry and calculus is in no way "advanced" math and could be embarked upon years earlier. Advanced maths starts when you get into proofs IMO.
For the most part, I agree with you. Paying a low up-front cost but a little more in the end is a good option, and not just for low income folks. (Emphasis on option.) There's a opportunity cost related to whether or not you tie up that extra ~$200 in the console now, or keep it on hand for other uses for the time being. Just because you can afford to pay cash outright for a car, for example, does not mean that it makes sense to do so.
In my opinion comparing this to the purchase of a car which
is a practical necessity for most people is a bit disingenuous. And if your budget can be broken over 200 dollars, again in my opinion, you should be worrying about more important things than buying the latest video game console.
Java was the second language I learned after Python and Javascript was my third. I found Java to be much closer to Python than Javascript was and oddly found that I picked the idioms up much quicker so I'd have to agree that Python is more like Java than Javascript once you get past the superficialities like the curly braces and semi-colons.
Slashdot is done. It's little more than copy-pasta'd talking points between the shills and the fanboys at this point. The signal to noise ratio has dropped through the floor. It's pretty sad. The only way for anything to change for the better would be for geek.net to step in and start actively deleting comments and they don't seem to be interested in doing that. I'd suggest dropping the AC posting ability too. Also, new accounts should have a cooling off period. Say 3 days maybe. Who knows what it would take but Slashdot/Engadget/ZDNet/Disqus etc. are all overrun by the various shill factions.
You may have heard of it but if not, it's a little thin on summaries but other than that, while not perfect, I'll bet it's a lot like what Slashdot was back in the day.
Maybe Slashdot could be held to a higher standard and not copy that kind of crap verbatim. There is at least one other site where I get my tech news that seems to be able to pull this off and they make less money and post more stories to boot.
Google can continue to live in a dream world and pay the price of ignoring patents
What are you talking about, man? Google already licenses a ton of patents and that's not what this is even about anyway. This is about an anti-trust complaint that happens to involve patents.
Or you can do what Barnes & Noble did and fight back hard ending up with a sweet deal and payout. I don't know why more manufacturers don't do that as B&N won big. I'm not saying I agree with what they ended up doing but they did make out like bandits by standing up to the bully.
Thank you for this very informative explanation. Sadly, it will be lost on most people as the "Google is teh Evil" meme is so strong on the internet right now. Just a suggestion (you may have done this I haven't checked), but would it be possible to summarize this and put it as a little disclaimer next to the phone number prompt so that people know what's going on and the trolls can't use it as anti-Google fodder?
HTC is not a patent troll. MOSAID is, e.g., non-practicing entity. The distinction is huge. HTC is a very large licensee of Android who was attacked by Apple for the express purpose of an outright shutdown. Not only was that an attack on HTC but it was an attack on Android itself. Of course Google is not going to stand there with their dicks in their hands. Contrast this with what MS and Nokia are doing. They bought a bunch of patents for the express purpose of transferring them to a text book patent troll to attack Android. Google is not attacking Windows phone and they are not attacking Nokia. The patents they transferred to HTC were for defense purposes against Apple. You can try to draw ridiculous parallels until the cows come home but ultimately as we saw with Oracle vs Google it's up to the court to sort it out. Armchair Google haters and paranoid tin hat wearers everywhere notwithstanding.
Web browsers and smart phones are very different things.
Do you have anything other than a tired disingenuous analogy you just pulled out of your ass? Because last I checked this specific anti-trust complaint is about Nokia and Microsoft backing patent trolls. Google has never done this. Furthermore, if there are legitimate complaints to be leveled toward Google then by all means do so. But to just make a blanket statement that Google shouldn't defend their interests (especially against something so underhanded as patent trolling) because "they did bad too HUr dur" is not a rational perspective.
Burn.
Is there any end-to-end security between my handset and - for example - paypal.com or my bank? Opera Mini uses a transcoder server to translate HTML/CSS/JavaScript into a more compact format. It will also shrink any images to fit the screen of your handset. This translation step makes Opera Mini fast, small, and also very cheap to use. To be able to do this translation, the Opera Mini server needs to have access to the unencrypted version of the webpage. Therefore no end-to-end encryption between the client and the remote web server is possible.
If you need full end-to-end encryption, you should use a full web browser such as Opera Mobile.
So according to Opera, end to end encryption is "impossible" with Opera Mini and if you want it, use something else.
- I like being able to have two apps open. You can easily copy and paste between the two instead of having to launch and close each app multiple times.
On my Galaxy Nexus, there is a button on the bottom right that acts as essentially an alt-tab switcher. The apps do not open and close, and I can switch back and forth cutting and pasting as much as I want.
I like being able to flick apps I no longer need off of the screen. It is both simple and mentally satisfying. Hitting the back button multiple times in Android just to close an app is clunky, at best.
Again, on my Galaxy Nexus, I click the app switcher button at the bottom and any app I want to close I just drag out of the list.
Have you ever used Android?
Exactly what I was thinking. One needs to really "follow the money" on this one.
The cert is revoked and Chrome now says "This extension is blacklisted." when you try to install it.
Non-techies don't care about "browser choice".
Do you have citable evidence for this claim? Last I checked, IE was steadily losing market share despite being the default browser on 90+ percent of computers sold so obviously people do care about alternative as I highly doubt 50 percent of the market (people not using IE) can all be described as techies.
They do care about their phone not getting hacked.
Strawman. Also, many iPhone jailbreaks have been done through browser exploits and since there isn't any real alternative on iOS, the situation of only having Safari and Safari skinned browsers is actually worse for security.
One really nice thing about ext4 vs. previous versions is the dreaded 20 minute fsck every 40th or so boot only takes about 10-20 seconds now.
What issue are you having? Audio has always worked flawlessly on my Lenovo G560 running Debian 6, Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04. The last legitimate issue I recall having was a conflict between pulse audio and Skype a couple of years ago on an Acer laptop but Skype was the only application that exhibited any issue so I assume the app itself was the guilty party. I can't remember the last time I've had any problems since then with either flash, windows games running through wine, mplayer or anything else.
Agree completely. The high school math here in the states, I.e., algebra, trig, geometry and calculus is in no way "advanced" math and could be embarked upon years earlier. Advanced maths starts when you get into proofs IMO.
For the most part, I agree with you. Paying a low up-front cost but a little more in the end is a good option, and not just for low income folks. (Emphasis on option.) There's a opportunity cost related to whether or not you tie up that extra ~$200 in the console now, or keep it on hand for other uses for the time being. Just because you can afford to pay cash outright for a car, for example, does not mean that it makes sense to do so.
In my opinion comparing this to the purchase of a car which is a practical necessity for most people is a bit disingenuous. And if your budget can be broken over 200 dollars, again in my opinion, you should be worrying about more important things than buying the latest video game console.
Java was the second language I learned after Python and Javascript was my third. I found Java to be much closer to Python than Javascript was and oddly found that I picked the idioms up much quicker so I'd have to agree that Python is more like Java than Javascript once you get past the superficialities like the curly braces and semi-colons.
I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile when the first Android G1 came out.
False alarm, they've been sent home at the hopes that a complete decision can be made after one more day of deliberation, e.g., Monday.
A partial verdict may have been reached!
...is still an insult.
It's partisan hate-mongers like you that will forever doom any real reform in this country. Thanks.
Slashdot is done. It's little more than copy-pasta'd talking points between the shills and the fanboys at this point. The signal to noise ratio has dropped through the floor. It's pretty sad. The only way for anything to change for the better would be for geek.net to step in and start actively deleting comments and they don't seem to be interested in doing that. I'd suggest dropping the AC posting ability too. Also, new accounts should have a cooling off period. Say 3 days maybe. Who knows what it would take but Slashdot/Engadget/ZDNet/Disqus etc. are all overrun by the various shill factions.
Microsoft not arrogant? Have you ever even heard of this company before?
You may have heard of it but if not, it's a little thin on summaries but other than that, while not perfect, I'll bet it's a lot like what Slashdot was back in the day.
Maybe Slashdot could be held to a higher standard and not copy that kind of crap verbatim. There is at least one other site where I get my tech news that seems to be able to pull this off and they make less money and post more stories to boot.