One reason that Time Warner cable (and various other cable companies) loved to work with Earthlink even though ELNK did nothing but slap their names on the bill (yes... an Earthlink cable install is a Timewarner/Comcast rep coming out to the install and repairs), is that they provide the email accounts and advertising. Earthlink's email network is one hellava setup and takes the stress and upkeep issues that are normally supplied by the network provider.
Trust me. Email servers are lords of pain when working with any network. That and you call Earthlink for support first and then they transfer them over if it is an connectivity issue (or not if the question was about email related issues or "how do I browse the internet..." questions)
Yeah... I worked in an office at the HQ and quit pretty much before they laid off everyone. It was mentioned during training to us about the site as I remember.
But I'm just guessing that you do because they had one too that matched the mainpage and that was setup by and disgruntled employee.
And that he was sent letters by the lawyers... And posted a complaint about it.
And Earthlink is an ISP.
Unless all hatepages are setup by disgruntled employees that mimic their former place of work that get cease and desist letters which happen to be ISP.
A skilled con man can own you, but in the end he will be the one in jail and you will just suffer a few hours of inconvenience proving which transactions are yours and which aren't. I am sure Kevin regrets his stupidity.
I take it that you have never been the victim of identity theft.
Not that it has happened to me, but from the 2nd hand horror stories I can conclude often the criminal is never caught and the victim will find themselves forever fighting the powers that be to prove they didn't do the things that were done in their name.
IE: Buying a house and forclosing on it. Credit cards in their name etc etc...
Sure you can get one company at a time by showing them legal documents after you prove that it wasn't you that did these things.
But maybe I am a pessimist or I tend to hear failure stories of law enforcement rather than the success stories.
After all... No one complains when things go the way they are supposed to.
My web developer for my record label's website is primarily a flash programmer, but one of my questions to him when we first started working together was "What happens when they don't have flash installed?"
His answer: "I've wrote a script to check to see if flash is installed and then just display a flat jpg image instead if it is not."
That and he keeps his flash word really small so I'm happy with it. Music related content sites tend to have lots of multimedia as it is consirding that is what we are selling.
The one question that is isn't too clear is that what happens if the companies are either:
A.) Government regulated. (See Airlines)
B.) Goverment sponsored. (See power companies and farmers)
C.) Government allowed monopolies (see telcos)
Can those companies promote specific religions? Can they censor critics of the government? Can they make suggestions on who to vote for?
These are questions that should be asked.
If a telco was receiving money from the government or by some government mandate they were allowed to exist then they should be somehow accountable to the same rules as government.
Otherwise you might up up with oppression through proxy in which the govenrment sets up a large corporation to restrict the rights of it's people indirectly.
Although, I don't think this is really the case... Just something to consider.
I wouldn't be able to block spammers and hackers from hitting my machine because Vonage can't sell their VoIP service?
Umm... Are you a common carrier?
Perhaps you provide internet connection to consumers?
I dunno... Letting your neighbors war ride your wireless router doesn't really count as being an ISP. Even if you are an admin at a large company, unless you specifically sell internet access over wires you own (or rent) then I don't think this applies to you.
Earthlink's got a deal now in the U.S. where you can get DSL for 19.95 for the first half-year
Would you like that deal with lube or without? Because Earthlink deals tend to be painful if issues arrise. Not that I worked for them 2 years or not explaining early termination fees to DSL customers...
You'll most likely have to sign a year or more contract and have a $150 early termination fee as well etc etc or something in a clause to get that price. God help you if the service actually doesn't work. When the TRON rep asks... You have checked the NID! With the 60 foot extention cord.
"On the flip side, the EU is a horrible, huge, barely functional, partly non-democratic beurocratic nightmare which makes the US government look like a small anarchist collective."
I take it that you have never had to call the Internal Revenue Service or visted a US Post Office.
You'd think in 3-4 years time they'd fix this bandwidth problem. You'd think 6 billion humans can only generate only so much given information and consume only a portion of that information. Right?
So my email stating "Click start and then run and then type CMD and then click OK and then in the nifty black box type 'del C:\Program Files\AntiSpyware\*.*' and then hit Y on your keyboard and then forward this to 10 of your friends so Bill Gates will send you $100" is getting around a bit.
Well that's because Hitler lost and Stalin didn't have an occupying army digging through his territories...
Well there was the 70,000 Polish Officers the Germans dug up during the later part of the war.
That and starvation was a method of execution mind you... Out of the I think only a fraction of the 600,000 German POW's ever came back (wasn't it out of the 90,000 that were captured at Stalingrad only 7,000 survived the Gulags).
Stalin also used starvation against the Kulaks (the farmer groups) and put them on Collectives and took away a great deal of their food.
That and Russians never really had efficient methods for doing things so no one will really know how many had died.
The point is that Stalin was just as bad as Hitler. The problem that most people should see is that he was our ally (and he did have anti-Jew campaigns in the later era of his life) and were ignorant of the fact that we let him get away with some of the worse atrocities under our noses. (ie the summary execution of Cossacks pows that US and British forces handed back to Stalin after the war).
Still... He is dead and Kruschev denouced him and they dug him up and put him elsewhere, but you can say one was worse than the other. They were both extremely evil men.
You don't nuke your own country as a defensive measure against invading forces.
So you've never heard of low yield tactical nukes? Very interesting concept considering both the US and Russia did tests to see if it was feasible to set of nukes in close range of their own troops. (Ever see those old films of the US Troopers in the trenches watching the bomb go off?)
Secondly, Russia did actually do work on a "doomsday" weapons much to the chagrins of Dr. Strangelove fans. The 100-megaton bomb was at least said to have been created by Khrushchev himself, but they never really figured out a good way to deploy it since it would require an extremely large aircraft that didn't exist at the time. That and it was never tested because of the extreme reaction to the global environment. It was estimated that it would have created a 7 or 8km fireball in itself (much less the blast).
Now if you were a smart Rogue nation that was in range of the North Pole I wonder what would happen if you detonated a high yield nuke on the polar Ice cap.
I wonder if anybody has successfully sued a hotel because they got mugged in the hotel by someone who wasn't connected with the hotel?
If you slipped and fell in the hotel's shower you could sue them so I think this falls into the category of "safe environment" laws. Hell people have won money for spilling hot coffee into their laps so I see why not.
Although by the term "mugged" would include physical or mental trauma or at least someone sticking a gun or a knife in your face. Most businesses have insurance for that kind of thing anyways... So they wouldn't really fight it.
But your anology should be more on the lines of "I left my keys out in the hall way and when I came back to my hotel room my money was gone."
That would be covered in the hotel's "we are not responsible for missing items and we provided you with the option of leaving it with us at the desk or putting it in the safe in the room" clause.
The funny thing is that I have found that Lotus Word Pro is easier to use and more logical than word even though I have not had any formal training on Lotus Word Pro except have it installed on my machine in case someone were to call in about it. (and they do)
While I have major formal training in Word and I still find the whole concept of Section Breaks, Table of Contents, and Headers quite buggy and akward to use even with Word 2003.
But as we all not WordPro did not win the Document wars... So I think we can infer that it wasn't ease of use that was that cause.
Hrm... And all along I thought the money I paid for Social Security went to military projects as it was.
Actually, I'd like to point out that money that people receive from social security isn't that much when you look at taxes in a global scale. IE: How much did the government spend on social security checks last year? How much did it spend on other things?
The money spent on welfare is a drop mostly compared to other projects. I did a bit of math and if it is true that we have spent 400 billion dolars on say just Iraq alone (I'm not an anti-Iraq war person mind you, but it's the first thing I can think of) and we consider there might be around 300 million Americans (legal and illegal) and then divide the two then each person in the states has paid about $1,333 in taxes for that war.
But I would also like the point out that saying Social Security is going to go bankrupt is a lie. Our govnerment consumes more money that we pay it in taxes so it mearly produces more in debt to get by. Then we pass the debt of to loans to thrid world nations and raise interest rates every now and then and trade it off with China somehow.
It's really a big scheme and it seems to work and has since the 1940's.
However, I had have no intetion of collecting on my social security since my plans involve me moving to Europe when I am old or it will be a moot point in the Apocalypse of 2012. At least I think Bush thinks we are too...
So what you're saying is passwords are a crappy form of security, but other forms of security suck just as much or worse?
The problem is that passwords for most end users tend to be a difficult process. They tend to forget and/or wrtie the down on little sticky notes on their monitors.
Secondly, (I don't know the url, but it was on Novell's site) there an estimated few million dollars lost by companies for the fact of time wasted by locked out systems and people calling IT help (when IT peeps could be doing something better).
Personally, passwords work great for me. I don't get spyware on my PC either because of good practices... But unfortunatley there isn't a few million of me to be employed by a work force or at least I'm not the majority "user".
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One reason that Time Warner cable (and various other cable companies) loved to work with Earthlink even though ELNK did nothing but slap their names on the bill (yes... an Earthlink cable install is a Timewarner/Comcast rep coming out to the install and repairs), is that they provide the email accounts and advertising. Earthlink's email network is one hellava setup and takes the stress and upkeep issues that are normally supplied by the network provider.
Trust me. Email servers are lords of pain when working with any network. That and you call Earthlink for support first and then they transfer them over if it is an connectivity issue (or not if the question was about email related issues or "how do I browse the internet..." questions)
Yeah... I worked in an office at the HQ and quit pretty much before they laid off everyone. It was mentioned during training to us about the site as I remember.
But I'm just guessing that you do because they had one too that matched the mainpage and that was setup by and disgruntled employee.
And that he was sent letters by the lawyers... And posted a complaint about it.
And Earthlink is an ISP.
Unless all hatepages are setup by disgruntled employees that mimic their former place of work that get cease and desist letters which happen to be ISP.
A skilled con man can own you, but in the end he will be the one in jail and you will just suffer a few hours of inconvenience proving which transactions are yours and which aren't. I am sure Kevin regrets his stupidity.
I take it that you have never been the victim of identity theft.
Not that it has happened to me, but from the 2nd hand horror stories I can conclude often the criminal is never caught and the victim will find themselves forever fighting the powers that be to prove they didn't do the things that were done in their name.
IE: Buying a house and forclosing on it. Credit cards in their name etc etc...
Sure you can get one company at a time by showing them legal documents after you prove that it wasn't you that did these things.
But maybe I am a pessimist or I tend to hear failure stories of law enforcement rather than the success stories.
After all... No one complains when things go the way they are supposed to.
My web developer for my record label's website is primarily a flash programmer, but one of my questions to him when we first started working together was "What happens when they don't have flash installed?" His answer: "I've wrote a script to check to see if flash is installed and then just display a flat jpg image instead if it is not." That and he keeps his flash word really small so I'm happy with it. Music related content sites tend to have lots of multimedia as it is consirding that is what we are selling.
The one question that is isn't too clear is that what happens if the companies are either:
A.) Government regulated. (See Airlines)
B.) Goverment sponsored. (See power companies and farmers)
C.) Government allowed monopolies (see telcos)
Can those companies promote specific religions? Can they censor critics of the government? Can they make suggestions on who to vote for?
These are questions that should be asked.
If a telco was receiving money from the government or by some government mandate they were allowed to exist then they should be somehow accountable to the same rules as government.
Otherwise you might up up with oppression through proxy in which the govenrment sets up a large corporation to restrict the rights of it's people indirectly.
Although, I don't think this is really the case... Just something to consider.
I wouldn't be able to block spammers and hackers from hitting my machine because Vonage can't sell their VoIP service?
Umm... Are you a common carrier?
Perhaps you provide internet connection to consumers?
I dunno... Letting your neighbors war ride your wireless router doesn't really count as being an ISP. Even if you are an admin at a large company, unless you specifically sell internet access over wires you own (or rent) then I don't think this applies to you.
Fascists should be responsible for passing freedom crushing laws!
Oh wait...
not THE anti-christ, but a forerunner, kind of a prototype.
I would hope so. We Satanists were kind of dismayed that we got a complete retard to lead the armies of darkness during the last days of man.
Just consider it a very large memory card.
Earthlink's got a deal now in the U.S. where you can get DSL for 19.95 for the first half-year
Would you like that deal with lube or without? Because Earthlink deals tend to be painful if issues arrise. Not that I worked for them 2 years or not explaining early termination fees to DSL customers...
You'll most likely have to sign a year or more contract and have a $150 early termination fee as well etc etc or something in a clause to get that price. God help you if the service actually doesn't work. When the TRON rep asks... You have checked the NID! With the 60 foot extention cord.
If your firewall blocks ZIP files and RAR files, then how are you supposed to exchange groups of files with your friends efficiently?
*.sit files?
But then you'll need a Mac! But then they'll write a sit virus for OS X... Oh wait... Nevermind.
"On the flip side, the EU is a horrible, huge, barely functional, partly non-democratic beurocratic nightmare which makes the US government look like a small anarchist collective."
I take it that you have never had to call the Internal Revenue Service or visted a US Post Office.
Or a combination of both... *coughs*
You'd think in 3-4 years time they'd fix this bandwidth problem. You'd think 6 billion humans can only generate only so much given information and consume only a portion of that information. Right?
I misread the article to say "help track their collection of bodies or parts".
A little of too much the wannabe Dr. Frankenstein types on college campus maybe?
So my email stating "Click start and then run and then type CMD and then click OK and then in the nifty black box type 'del C:\Program Files\AntiSpyware\*.*' and then hit Y on your keyboard and then forward this to 10 of your friends so Bill Gates will send you $100" is getting around a bit.
Well that's because Hitler lost and Stalin didn't have an occupying army digging through his territories...
Well there was the 70,000 Polish Officers the Germans dug up during the later part of the war.
That and starvation was a method of execution mind you... Out of the I think only a fraction of the 600,000 German POW's ever came back (wasn't it out of the 90,000 that were captured at Stalingrad only 7,000 survived the Gulags).
Stalin also used starvation against the Kulaks (the farmer groups) and put them on Collectives and took away a great deal of their food.
That and Russians never really had efficient methods for doing things so no one will really know how many had died.
The point is that Stalin was just as bad as Hitler. The problem that most people should see is that he was our ally (and he did have anti-Jew campaigns in the later era of his life) and were ignorant of the fact that we let him get away with some of the worse atrocities under our noses. (ie the summary execution of Cossacks pows that US and British forces handed back to Stalin after the war).
Still... He is dead and Kruschev denouced him and they dug him up and put him elsewhere, but you can say one was worse than the other. They were both extremely evil men.
You don't nuke your own country as a defensive measure against invading forces.
So you've never heard of low yield tactical nukes? Very interesting concept considering both the US and Russia did tests to see if it was feasible to set of nukes in close range of their own troops. (Ever see those old films of the US Troopers in the trenches watching the bomb go off?)
Secondly, Russia did actually do work on a "doomsday" weapons much to the chagrins of Dr. Strangelove fans. The 100-megaton bomb was at least said to have been created by Khrushchev himself, but they never really figured out a good way to deploy it since it would require an extremely large aircraft that didn't exist at the time. That and it was never tested because of the extreme reaction to the global environment. It was estimated that it would have created a 7 or 8km fireball in itself (much less the blast).
Now if you were a smart Rogue nation that was in range of the North Pole I wonder what would happen if you detonated a high yield nuke on the polar Ice cap.
I have often felt the irony of the fact that a great deal of money, time, and resources are spent proving one is saving "the company" money.
In reality, it's about finding way to make redundant tasks more efficient and unnecessary tasks done away with.
That and consolidate your servers... That's about it.
Glad this wasn't around when I was like 12 and buying Doom.
Buying Doom? *pshaaw!* You rich little brat!
Being the poor teenager of that time with hardly any money for gas much less a $50 game, I had to resort to the old "diskcopy A:" discount.
I wonder if anybody has successfully sued a hotel because they got mugged in the hotel by someone who wasn't connected with the hotel?
If you slipped and fell in the hotel's shower you could sue them so I think this falls into the category of "safe environment" laws. Hell people have won money for spilling hot coffee into their laps so I see why not.
Although by the term "mugged" would include physical or mental trauma or at least someone sticking a gun or a knife in your face. Most businesses have insurance for that kind of thing anyways... So they wouldn't really fight it.
But your anology should be more on the lines of "I left my keys out in the hall way and when I came back to my hotel room my money was gone."
That would be covered in the hotel's "we are not responsible for missing items and we provided you with the option of leaving it with us at the desk or putting it in the safe in the room" clause.
The funny thing is that I have found that Lotus Word Pro is easier to use and more logical than word even though I have not had any formal training on Lotus Word Pro except have it installed on my machine in case someone were to call in about it. (and they do)
While I have major formal training in Word and I still find the whole concept of Section Breaks, Table of Contents, and Headers quite buggy and akward to use even with Word 2003.
But as we all not WordPro did not win the Document wars... So I think we can infer that it wasn't ease of use that was that cause.
Remember... Social Security is a pyramid scheme
Hrm... And all along I thought the money I paid for Social Security went to military projects as it was.
Actually, I'd like to point out that money that people receive from social security isn't that much when you look at taxes in a global scale. IE: How much did the government spend on social security checks last year? How much did it spend on other things?
The money spent on welfare is a drop mostly compared to other projects. I did a bit of math and if it is true that we have spent 400 billion dolars on say just Iraq alone (I'm not an anti-Iraq war person mind you, but it's the first thing I can think of) and we consider there might be around 300 million Americans (legal and illegal) and then divide the two then each person in the states has paid about $1,333 in taxes for that war.
But I would also like the point out that saying Social Security is going to go bankrupt is a lie. Our govnerment consumes more money that we pay it in taxes so it mearly produces more in debt to get by. Then we pass the debt of to loans to thrid world nations and raise interest rates every now and then and trade it off with China somehow.
It's really a big scheme and it seems to work and has since the 1940's.
However, I had have no intetion of collecting on my social security since my plans involve me moving to Europe when I am old or it will be a moot point in the Apocalypse of 2012. At least I think Bush thinks we are too...
I say bring it on.
So what you're saying is passwords are a crappy form of security, but other forms of security suck just as much or worse?
The problem is that passwords for most end users tend to be a difficult process. They tend to forget and/or wrtie the down on little sticky notes on their monitors.
Secondly, (I don't know the url, but it was on Novell's site) there an estimated few million dollars lost by companies for the fact of time wasted by locked out systems and people calling IT help (when IT peeps could be doing something better).
Personally, passwords work great for me. I don't get spyware on my PC either because of good practices... But unfortunatley there isn't a few million of me to be employed by a work force or at least I'm not the majority "user".
Once your print has been *breached*, you simply *can't get another one*. You're screwed.
No. It means you have 9 more to go.
19 if you don't mind taking your shoes off at the checkout.
Though seriously... Aren't thumb prints on both hands different. You could just switch which one is attached the credit card.