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Forbes Lists Top Corporate Hate Web Sites
windowpain writes "You've seen them. Maybe you've made one, like Walmart-blows.com or Paypalsucks.com. Now Forbes.com has a 'Special Report' devoted to what it considers the best of them. 'The following nine sites--there were ten, but one went unexpectedly dark during the editing of this story--are the crème de la crème of online rage. Note that we substantially cleaned up some of the posts, editing out odd capitulation schemes, iffy grammar and plain incoherence. Apparently blinding anger does not go hand in hand with dotting your i's and crossing your t's.' Maybe this will become an annual thing like the Forbes 400 and the Fortune 500." (I wonder what a capitulation scheme is.)
I wonder what a capitulation scheme is.
They probably meant "odd capitalization scheme." YoU THiNk, hUh?
Actually, at first I read it as "odd copulation schemes," which makes a lot more sense, doesn't it? * fp
A programmer is a machine for converting coffee into code.
That's what that last site that went dark did..
It's really a multi purpose hate site, hating so many things/companies. This list was more directed to sites that hated a single thing/company.
My company isn't listed yet......wait I mean (cough couch big brother) WHEW, my company isn't listed yet.
how come there's not a 'forbes-sucks.com'?
I didn't notice an SBCsucks or an SBCblows. That's weird, because SBC really really sucks. Well, at least they did until one of their technicians accidently cut power to my high school. I love you, SBC! *Goes to register ilovesbc.com*
Take off every sig. For great justice.
To honor these quixotic champions, we spent hours trawling the Web looking for the very best corporate hate sites.
I'm surprised Best Buy Sux didn't make the list
A number of years ago I wrote an opinion in Epinions regarding a brand new Dodge truck I had purchased (the new ones in 1994 just after the redesign). The opinion was written after about four years of ownership. One week after writing the opinion I had a lawyer (presumably from Chrysler) call me and threaten libel. I replied all I wrote down were the facts. Nothing more and that I had all documentation to back up my claims. If he would like, I could create a website with all of the documentation. I never heard back, but it was that kind of treatment that unfortunately convinced me to never purchase another product from them again. it's too bad, because they do have some of the most exciting products out there, but they simply cannot build them reliably and their customer service (even at the supposed 5 star dealerships was atrocious).
Visit Jonesblog and say hello.
There's this great anti-Microsoft website that I visit, now and then.
Am I part of the core demographic for Swedish Fish?
Unless you're bred to surrender, you wouldn't understand.
Because I reeeeeeeeeeeealy hate Southwest.
I like the way this was PR handled from UPS for the website UnitedPackageSmashers.com:
Company Says:
"We do know of the site. Because we live in a free society, people have the right to their opinion, and we recognize that people will use the Internet to voice their opinion. We believe that customers can get much more valuable and accurate information from our site."
Thats much better than a legal notice claiming a violation of some act, and gives them a leg up in my book. On a side note I wonder how forbes has/would handle something like forbessucks.com.
Whether to go with 'sucks' or 'blows.' Are there corporate entities so bad they simultaneously suck and blow? Perhaps we need a new ascii value for not hearting something.
http://www.geocities.com/tarahertz/slashdotsucks/
Setting up a web site wth ones factual experiences with the appropriate keywords often does the trick.
Adam's RIP.
ATT sinking fast.
Moe's at Ansley struggling.
But the biggest suckass of them all is Dunn and Bradstreet and their legalized 'extortion'.
"you can't do business without Dunn and Bradstreet" says the little bitch who shows up without an appointment as she is sent on her way to harass their next 'victim'
Anti-slash.org!
The site is outrageous. Apparenly a bunch of -1 posters got together and set it up. I think it's meant to be funny more than an attempt at serious criticism.
When Forbes confronted Microsoft about this, their reply was
I'm surprised an anti-Dell site is not on the list.
The experiences I have had lately from Dell in getting hardware repairs made under service contract are some of the worst experiences I have ever had dealing with any company. And I've talked to a number of folks who have had similar experiences.
Ten years ago, Dell was one of my favorite companies.
That's where they come up with bizarre revenge plots that wouldn't make it into a B-movie because it's too far-fetched. You know, like setting up porno screensavers at Suck-Mart, changing the passwords, then announcing a special on computers over the PA.
Generally, it's what they'd love to do but don't have the guts (nor inclination to spend years in jail / debt) to actually follow through.
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ECHELON is a government program to find words like bomb, jihad, plutonium, assassinate, and anarchy.
that would be FrenchArmySucks.com.
Would this be before or after the French helped your sorry asses defeat the British so you could actually become your own country?
I guess this is the point where jokes about France start, or *cough* viet nam *cough*.
Treat me like a marketing stat, and I'll treat your movie like a series of ones and zeros
When I was writing this I was going to comment that the writer probably meant "capitalization scheme," meaning the way some people capitalize Random Words in their Posts.
But then I figured maybe he was referring to what the site makers want in return for tearing down their sites (i.e., how they expect the enemy corporation to capitulate).
Insert witty sig here.
Although, to be fair, a bunch of these companies have recurring issues.
Paypal, with its "we can suspend your account and you can't do fuckal about it, hooray, we get to keep your money". Allstate, with it's "musical chair claims adjusters".
Don't even get me started about UAL.
It isn't like people don't know about the shady shit these companies do, it happens pretty often, and if the company is a bunch of shits, contacting the BBB won't get you anywhere. State attorney generals haven't stepped in either in the cases of most of these companies.
I interviewed at UPS and we did a tour, a monitor fell off a conveyor belt. Everyone heard the tube pop, and the crash of glass, but one of the employees just tossed it back as if nothing had happened. As we were walking away, we heard another one drop and the sound of smashing glass.
Un-fucking-believable.
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This should have been on there, even if the subject matter is narrow:
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http://www.jroller.com/page/fate
A sample: http://www.jroller.com/page/fate/20040818#alphawo
"IBM's interest in java is predominantly due to Websphere. That delightful tool that IBM KNOWS is nothing more than a very big wankstain on the no longer so virginal application server market. IBM might be full of dimwits and dullards, but they certainly know that to sell websphere, they must avoid all technical people and ensure they only sell to sales/upper management/marketoids, because they're the group that's too detached from the crapulence to know any better."
Beautiful.
2 words: Marshall Plan
"I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey
I'm kind of disappointed that they didn't list Radio Shack Sucks. RSS was instrumental in organizing a class action against RadioShack, and in response RadioShack tried to lawyer them to death.
Perhaps one day Slashdot will steal some of those editors and do that with submissions - well, it's a dream anyway
Get paid to search..It's geniune and
And it's actually company policy that anyone accessing it from work is to be terminated.
But it's over 5 years going strong on the (mycompany)sucks.com site...
"why don't you just slip into something more comfortable...like a coma!"
We've got 1000's of Dell PCs. AFAIK when a drive crashes or a MB fails one is overnighted without much grief. I believe Dell is highly regarded for their excellent Tech Support. We don't use their servers, so I can't comment on that side of things.
If Windows(TM) sucked at least it would be good for something.
I always found it funny that people were actually willing to give some website their bank account information and let them handle their money. I think suckers are the word I would use to describe them.
But the writing on walmartblows just makes my head hurt. These are adults, some say with children, and the writing is at about a 6th grade level. I know for a fact that most teachers don't write this bad. I know for a fact that most teachers try to guide students to better writing. Reading the site i was hard pressed to find a single coherent thought. And these are Americans.
I hate to say it, but thank god for walmart because I do not know where else these people could work. No wonder they make nothing. They probably wasted the free education that America provides and then had delusions that someone would give them a high paying job while allowing them to continue to do nothing.
I generally don't shop at walmart, and generally make myself annoying when I do. I wish it would go away. But reading these writing samples just make me wonder if it the simple inability of Americans to aspire to be something more than workers that makes the domination of walmart inevitable.
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
In Canada, Canadian Tire actually bought out a corporate hate site that was really gathering steam - www.crappytire.com.
It was a real dilemma for them; buy it out and implicitly acknowledge that the site was pissing them off, or try to ignore the dreadful press that this guy was generating. They went with the former, though it must have hurt to have to register a nasty play on your corporation's name.
BTW, Canadian Tire is just awful - ask any Canadian.
Americansblow.com??? Stop trying to take over the world!!!
This website went live in late November, 2003. As of today, this website has had over 42,000 unique visitors from over 58 different countries!
They're going to have to significantly update those figures...
I created a website that attacked my school district. They tried to discipline me, sabotage my computer access, intimdate me with lawyers, and harass me with school police. All for creating a website at home!
Anything that is a perceived threat to someone's power will not be taken lightly, as I discovered.
I once worked in the shipping/logistics business and while that may have shocked and disappointed you, it's standard practice. Even a broken CRT must first be delivered before a claim can be filed on it. Sounds bizzare? Why should it? Distribution hubs aren't the portion of a large organization like UPS to handle damage, they just move the stuff, unless as happened at one of our hubs, the cartons themselves are damaged. (Someone lowered a fork on top of a pallet of Sun servers, rookies, sheesh.)
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
"What's really pathetic is not Verizon but this sort of lame Web site..."
This is as almost as good as T-Mobile saying last week that "The silver lining of this Paris Hilton thing is it is an opportunity for customers to take further steps to protect their data."
Why does it always seem to be large cities that people are making these complaints from?
Half the time when I find/read a site complaining about some company it's customer complaints about the service in blah blah megatropolis...
Do all these people really not put it together in their heads that it's the local store they go to that sucks, not the whole company?
~~ Please keep your arms, legs, and outright stupidity inside the ride at all times. Thank You ~~
Wow. With a policy like that I can see why there's a sucks.com site for it. Not a bad thing to check out if there's a sucks site for a prospective employer before starting employment.
AccountKiller
Someone had that name a few years ago, looks like it's down now. They're still bastards.
Terminated, not just dismissed... Ulp! Glad I don't work for THAT company! (* Pictures management doing Terminator 2 impressions *)
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
There's nothing lamer than glib assessments of the French.
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An "odd capitulation scheme" might go:
1: Set up corporate hate website
2: Demand payoff to comply with corporate "Cease and Desist" order
3: PROFIT!
4: Go unexpectedly dark during editing of Forbes article about you
This is not to be confused with an "odd capitalization scheme", except by your shady accountant.
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I used to work for an ISP. (Won't name it for reasons that will be obvious.) We had a hate-site set up by a former employee with a grudge. When we learned about it, it got lots of hits because we all had to take a look at it. I never heard anybody at work agree with the site, but nobody thought we should do anything about it. Then, the owner changed the site to look almost exactly like our own home page. In short order, he'd gotten a letter from our lawyers, telling him to change his site's appearance to one that didn't mimic ours so exactly. He did, and posted a big complaint about it. From then on, he kept his site looking at least a little differnt from ours and we ignored him. It's been years since I've visited it, but I'll bet it's still there, and my former employers still don't care.
Good, inexpensive web hosting
The tenth site was about the french military!
hawk
Cripes, it explains so much. Hey, you expense-account leeches, welcome to 1997!
would be for people to put together websites talking in the abstract about what to avoid in various transactions such as:
For car dealerships: Be careful that the final contract ACTUALLY specifies the number figures and rates you spent half an hour negotiating. Usually they blanket it in so many reams of paper and restate it (APR, per year rather than per month etc) so that most of the time you don't catch it.
Moving companies: They're ALL thieves. They use too much packing material, give you a lowball "estimate" that's "guaranteed" right up to the moment you put your stuff on their truck at which point they jack it up, and hold yer stuff hostage (and this isn't flybynigotovitch, this is one of the most well known / respected companies in the biz)
rather than crap on a particular company in a specific instance.
Oh, and while on the subject, A company whose name sounds suspiciously like "Sally Total Hipness" who's been PIMPSLAPPED by the SEC for multiple violations of law (bait and switch etc) have this neat trick in which they portray a "membership" as a contract but in actual fact it's a loan, and as such you're on the hook to repay it completely and can never get out of it.
Never even enter their foul smelling, poorly maintained dens of bait and switch and hucksterism. Their business model is "sign em up and kick em out - but they're still forced to keep paying us."
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I suggest you go to walmart someday... as an educational field trip.
I know of one nearby in a posh neighbourhood. It's still manages to attract folk that wouldn't be out of place on a Jerry Springer episode.
Seriously... it's quite an experience.
> And it's actually company policy that anyone accessing it from work is to be terminated.
Hmmm... I can think of some interesting things to do on a stroll through suitville at lunchtime (wearing gloves).Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
Administrative Contact:
Filipe Carreira
(NIC-14324246)
Forbes, Inc.
How do we know that Filipe isn't a disgruntled employee waiting to take the company down from the inside?
All those sites are way too negative, and I don't enjoy reading websites about people who express their hate like the Wal-Mart sucks site or PapPalSucks. All the hate really destroys their credibility in my opinion.
Slashdot.org
This is the perfect compliment to go with the new article on The Best Page in the Universe.
"When the atomic bomb goes off there's devastation...but when the atomic bong goes off there's celebraaaaation!"
I first heard of the site from reading this paper in www2004, which used epinions data as the basis for a reputation system. (I don't know if epinions uses that same system internally, but they at least do something similar.) The cool part is that you can rate individual reviewers as "trusted" or "untrusted". By examining the graph of trust and distrust relationships between users, they can come up with a reasonable guess for how much any user should trust any other user, and sort reviews accordingly.
I don't know what the motives are of the people who run the site. Perhaps they're just trying to grease the wheels of capitalism by giving people good information to make informed decisions about what products to buy (or, more formally, to avoid information asymmetry). Perhaps they're secretly tweaking the ratings to support companies that send them money. Perhaps they're just trying to generate ad banner revenue. Who knows.
In many states, you can easily get a concealed carry permit. Here in Arizona you can carry a weapon openly (defined as any part of the weapon or holster being clearly visible) with no permit, or concealed with a permit. You take a class that covers CCW law, firearm safety, and a shooting test, then submit an application. Provided you pass a backgroud check, you get your permit. There are a lot of people that have them, and a lot of people that carry all the time.
I'm surprised they haven't registered it themselves and tried to pin it on someone else.
Most likely something like this.
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
...we were expected to be suprised, but it's not suprising.
Just an example from the Paypal part of the report:
Company Says: "We believe that people have a right to express their opinion. PayPal welcomes constructive criticism from members to help us continue to improve our service through our community discussion boards, chat rooms and Voices program. The problem with complaint sites is that the issues reported are sometimes out-of-date and have long since been resolved. Other times, customers may write complaints on the sites without trying to get their issues resolved through our customer service channels first. As a result, we can't confirm the accuracy of the information on these third-party sites. And we've found that they are not interested in providing a balanced view." (emphasis added)
Why can't they confirm the accuracy of the information?
Sure, they might not know if Customer Service Person A really hung up on a customer, but certainly they can look into some of these issues. Unless they're the one company in the world that doesn't monitor customer service calls. They have access to this information.
Why do they expect the site to be fair and balanced? When I complain to a company, I'm not being fair and balanced. I'm advocating for myself against the company. Yes, I want to reach an equitable solution, but these sites have a lot of people who weren't able to reach that equitable solution.
That's a problem for any company and you'd think they'd actually listen. (Yeah, I know.)
I realize there's a lot of bull on those websites. But at the same time, there are also patterns of problems. No company is perfect, and here is a chance for those problems to get past the customer service filter (who are the problem a certain percentage of the time).
What I don't get is why in the world any company wouldn't say something like "Yes, we're aware of those websites and in fact take their concerns into consideration", even if they don't really mean it. They just write those people off as "Never gonna be customers so skrew it: those people are stupid", but apparently don't realize that those people used to be customers, and other current customers will eventually leave them as well.
They bag on the sites for using poor grammar and yet, first paragraph in, we get this little gem:
"But while your average disgruntled consumer simply vents their bile by bellowing at a bewildered service rep, a few go farther. Much farther."
Farther? Much farther? In my native language, we'd use further. Oh, and I speak English. You do have to appreciate the writer's use of syncopation though, bile bellowing and bewildered are nearly poetic in that sequence.
I'm driving by tomorrow right after the UPS truck does...
The hospital I work for has a very disgruntled former patient. Her website regarding percieved medical mistakes is interesting. While I sympathize with her situation, the fact that nobody here secured that domain name is kind of embarresing.
Isn't it standard practice these days to buy up and sit on all of the potential *sucks, *blows, *can-eat-me domains when you start a business? Not to mention the regular name variation ones?
No battles to the death are recalled. Mumpsman can hit to attack and cause brainsmashing.
At the Seattle store, they have this insanely gorgeous babe at the door. Tall chick with glasses and impressive frontal features. I have thought about volunteering for a private receipt audit more than once.
Best Buy... yeah, they can go jack in a box for all I care. But Fry's... that's somethin' else altogether.
Really, what sort of problems?
Ten years ago, Dell was one of my favorite companies.
Well, the Amercian Dell Dream is dead. More than half their staff is outside the U.S., despite most their sales are in the U.S.. Thanks Michael, you're a true patriot... just like the rest of the corporate scum.
Crossing your f's?
This idiot lost his 2003 BMW with keys to the house, and sat on his butt waiting for insurance to pay for a set of locks, until his other car got stolen too. If he can afford a bimmer in the first place, he can certainly afford a $200 set of locks at Home Depot. That moron deserves to have his other car stolen.
Mostly them selling defective/blem products as new, incompetent customer service (when they'll even talk to you)
Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley
The other side of the story (which isn't to say companies don't suck):
http://www.customerssuck.com/
But I'm just guessing that you do because they had one too that matched the mainpage and that was setup by and disgruntled employee.
And that he was sent letters by the lawyers... And posted a complaint about it.
And Earthlink is an ISP.
Unless all hatepages are setup by disgruntled employees that mimic their former place of work that get cease and desist letters which happen to be ISP.
"I am the king of the Romans, and am superior to rules of grammar!"
-Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
I've always had my doubts about UPS. Whenever i order anything online (frequently) i try to opt for FedEx. Whenever something gets shipped by UPS it either is laying in my yard! sitting on the sidwalk in the rain! (yes just the box, no protection or anything!) or just plain late (i mean weeks late not just a couple days). FedEx always either knocks or places the packages behind the door if im not home, and in plastic if its raining (yeah i know not as safe but at least its concealed behind the door). After seeing all the pictures of damaged packages on that UPS site im going to stop using them for sure.
-Kacy
Now we just shoot to kill.
Actually my AG (Ohio) has moved on a few people, even going after what I've always called "Bust Buy".
Personally, I like their selection and lay out but I'm glad to see Best Buy go down. They have the worst "practices" in the industry and just push other retailers to do the same stupid things (like not taking back unopened items, etc).
Get your Unix fortune now!
I think the word you're looking for is nationalist, not racist.
I agree, nationalism is for tards.
What's really pathetic in this day and age is that any bunch of idiots can claim that they run a phone company - in this case a particularly lame one.
Avoid Missing Ball for High Score
There used to be a site maintained by former DEC employees called digitalemployees.org, which bashed Robert Palmer (CEO when the company was sold to Compaq) and others. It's gone now.
Yes, I did until they closed the office I worked at. I was trying to be discrete about it, and now you're the second person to give it away. Please note that, contrary to his complaints, Earthlink had no problem with him having the site, just with his mimicing theirs too closely.
Good, inexpensive web hosting
My favourite hate site: KMFMS.com.
Author of a very good article "What's so bad about Microsoft", that is referenced in the Microsuck site.
So, frustrated (and tired after switching everything over to our other DSL line), I posted a blog entry with the title "I hate CenturyTel" and a big explanation as to what went wrong. Monday morning, our DSL line was fixed. The engineers on the other end were VERY apologetic, but I just assumed that they were trying to make amends - when the next day we got a call in the office from an executive at CenturyTel who had Googled for "I hate CenturyTel", found my blog, and yelled at some people to get things fixed. He then called us to personally apologize, gave us a bunch of freebies to make amends, and chatted with my boss for over half an hour about how to avoid this problem ever recurring. I came in from a client, my boss said "we just got a call about your blog" - and I assumed I'd libelled someone, was in trouble, etc. He then said "make sure you politely insult everyone who screws us over, it did wonders this time!"
Lead developer, http://wisptools.net
What gets me most is the near-universal bland, meaningless and Bulverising replies in the "Company Says" section. "Oh, you can't trust these web sites to be impartial". Um, we can't trust you to be impartial either, guys. As long as your responses are typical of company policies that prioritize PR over actually doing things right, I'm going to give serious attention to the complaints on such web sites.
By and large, you deserve these sites. As long as you prioritize PR over actually doing things right, the only way people will have to resolve their problems with you is going to be to give you bad PR. Don't complain about the bad PR if your priorities make that the only way people can get satisfaction from you.
fuh2.
It's not mysteriously dark, so that couldn't have been the other site.
I like music
And might I say their trolls make the typical /. troll look quite kind. It's scary over there. =)
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity but they've always worked for me" - HST
I own uawsucks.org, but I've not made it famous yet. I'm an unwilling UAW consignee. I was there before the union.
Here you go. So I'm thinking a pig, some grease, four pulleys, 5 plates of 1/8" steel, 20 feet of nylon rope, a gate, a couple of AA batteries, a blasting cap, and a 40-lb bag of quick setting concrete.
Should be enough to make the "masturbation box" from the jerky boys album.
You might think the pig is superfluous to the copulation scheme, but if you think about it, I think you'll see it's an integral part.
Yeah... I worked in an office at the HQ and quit pretty much before they laid off everyone. It was mentioned during training to us about the site as I remember.
"I am the king of the Romans, and am superior to rules of grammar!"
-Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
Here in Arizona you can carry a weapon openly
"Hi, I'm Steve-O, and in Arizona, this is _totally_legal_"
[extends jumbo spring-loaded 4' swiss army knife]
"Dude, it's like a sword!"
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
How could they have missed http://www.failingenterprise.com/? Enterprise Rent-A-Car has a serious problem on their hands with this site...
I own the domain and am point it to verizoneatspoop.com, i think i'll forward it to verizonpathetic.com good site.
uhh..actually the government divided up the country to the different companies because back in the old days all the companies would have to have been using different sets of lines. It was absurd to allow every company that comes along to rewire the city, so they just divided it up - every place had one company - one set of lines.
Now, of course, that has all changed, and phone companies are competing locally with eachother. The poster admits that "at the time..." there were no other choices, but I bet now he has at least 3.
or else!
Everyone hates everything else in here - all Corporations included.
A capitulation theme is pretty much what you see here at Slashdot. Perhaps this post is also. Oh, the irony.
I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
Of course the subject matter of Maddox's page is not for the weak of heart or mind. So if you are easily offended, please do not read his web pages. He is, like me, a fellow pirate.
Maddox a man with an opinion on everything.
Read how he says that Orbitz blows.
Read how he trashes Websense.
Read his suggestions for CompUSA.
Read his review on a Fox News Network show.
His review of a McDonald's ad campaign.
Read how he is more popular than Pepsi!
His advice on dealing with pesky credit card companies.
Read his review of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy movies.
Remember, Slashdot does not have a -1 disagree moderation, and no, troll, flamebait, and overrated are not substitutes.
Corporations do this alot, to try and avoid good hate site names. Had a Verizon employee in one class, he said they had registered as many as they could think of. But of course they can't get them all. Verizonpathetic.com is in the article. Verizoneatspoop.com is another.
I'm glad Paypalsucks.com is right up there. Paypal is run by a bunch of clowns. I've known a whole bunch of people who have been scammed and Paypal did SQUAT to fix the problems.
For instance, a crook steals a "verified" account and uses it to buy something. When the real owner finds out and files a complaint Paypal immediately puts the funds back. The seller gets totally screwed and there's nothing Paypal will do about it.
So, either Paypal is acting as an escrow, or they're not. If they are, then it's THEIR responsibility to pay for the seller's loss too.
If their position is that they're not an escrow service, then they have no right to put the funds back to the real owner. If an owner is stupid enough to get their account stolen, then too bad.
I suspect Paypal does this to cover their asses. Their system allowed someone to break in, so it'd be quite easy to prove in a court of law that Paypal is responsible for stolen accounts. Therefore to protect their a$$es they give the money back asap.
Also, notice how they keep forcing you to link your bank account instead of using your credit card. This way, if there ever is a dispute, it's totally up to Paypal whether they want to credit you back or not. You have absolutely no chargeback recourse.
Paypal really does SUCK. I hope they get sued out of existence.
eTrade SUCKS
Any big company that's so perfect nobody hates them?
Domain names to register...c ks.comm
fuckforbes-sucks.com
forbes-suckssu
fuckforbes-sucks.com
forbessuckssucks.co
fuckforbesrealysucks.com
fuckforbessucks.com
This is all a matter of advertizing german lollypops I call "forbes"; some of them are being used as hammers (hence all the fuching).
A friend of mine started a site to let people vent about jobs they love or hate. I thought people might be interested: Jobvent.com .
Just let me mention my corporate hate/ tribute site to my employer Safeway.
http://www.Slaveway.com
Now, if we can do anything more for-- What? You say we can? And all it will cost is our social security system?
Hmm, it can't be the Happy Fun Cult. They own scientologysucks.com and scientology-sucks.com. (Probably a number of other variations too.)
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
A lot of it has to do with tone. If you take a somewhat original but firm stance which sounds intelligent enough to get somebody agreeing with you, you will be modded up. Look at the page a few days ago on the Harvard acceptance letter scandal. Lots of people took the very un-Slashdot opinion that the students who followed an unpublished URL deserved to get canned. They were modded up, because they spoke calmly and sounded intelligent.
They also masked a moral argument as an intellectual one, which seems to help these days.
Also, respond to the first thread. If you're not near the top of the page you're less likely to be read by a moderator who shares your opinion. Don't respond to the middle of a thread... only to the first or last comment in a string. People don't read the alternate middle comments.
And I may get modded down for saying this, but saying you may get modded down for saying something just doesn't draw the mod points like it used to.
Your post won't be moderated as "Offtopic" if you add "-OT" to your subject line. Feel free to try this with "Flamebait."
These days, Simpsons quotes need to be longer than 6 lines to really draw the freebies.
CmdrTaco and friends are a lot less likely to use the beatdown stick for talking about Slashdot. For some reason, talking about Slashdot draws mod points too. But don't draw too many, or you'll be Offtopic.
The first rule of Slashdot is that you don't quote Fight Club.
The second rule of Slashdot is that you don't quote Fight Club.
Goatse and In Soviet Russia are so old that some people haven't even heard of them. Take advantage of this fact.
Recycle previous posts that have been moderated up.
Make humorous light of other poster's spellings, or use witty misspellings in your posts. I don't know why, but for the past few months the moderators seem to have B.S.'s in English.
Punctuate your remark with one unashamedly unmasked swearword. But use only one, otherwise it's just too much of this shit.
And, of course, if you can say something because you have actual information or insight to share, that's good too. But let's be real, this is Slashdot.
Did I mention that Slashdot bashing works too?
The ______ Agenda
What keeps the other person involved in the register fraud from just blowing by the security guy too?
I can't tell you the number of times I've walked by the door man at Frys, or just flashed my recipt as I walked by, usually through impatience while they're with someone else. But if they're alone, hey, why hassle some guy with a lousy job?
But the people most likely to know that you can do that are the employees. What keeps them from telling their "man on the outside" to just keep walking?
The ______ Agenda
Well, sorta my own.
I'm currently battling with computer3g and have been documenting their mis-steps, one after another.
I bought a hard drive from Computer3g aka ViewMicro and had one DOA. They refused to honor their 7-day DOA warrantee, and I found out that the drives weren't even supported by the manufacturer!
It's (to me) a case of fraud, and it goes on from there, if you're interested.
I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
Ok, I've got it. Get ICANN, or whoever replaces them, to add a .sucks top-level domain. It'll make a fortune. Firstly, from all the people registering on it, and secondly from all the companies wanting to know who did the registering...
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
In the Netherlands there's such a site about hookers. One local politician from Amsterdam had to leave politics when it became publicly known that het frequented that site (and the hookers).
Radio Shack has found a way for the media to tell the world they suck.
(A parent complained about his son possibly being kicked out because he's native american. That's bad, right? It gets worse: The store manager and another employee proceded to beat teh crap out him, dislocating his shoulder, among other things). I kid you not.
On the bright side, the kids won't have to worry about college. Dad'll probably get a new boat out of it too.
The microsoft hate site is given 3/5 on hostility. THREE, people, THREE. Come on. KB homes got 5/5. I've never even HEARD of KB homes. We can do better than that.
I've heard enough anti M$ ranting on slashdot for ten highly rated websites. Come on, you wimps, get on that website and start ranting. Corporate America? BAH! Proprietary software? Don't make me laugh! We are the mujahidin of OSS and we will make our presence felt through incoherent, rambling hostile posts!
www.hellkom.co.za
Freedom of speech doesn't come with bandwidth.
Think about it.
Say you write some nasty stuff about my company's customer service or product. I then reply on this anti-me site that after carefully researching it I find most if not all your claims are exaggerated or false.
What do you think is going to happen? You feel you have a valid complaint, I cannot find one. Hence I have wasted even more time trying to fix a problem that is past the point of fixing.
One thing I know about customer complaint sites is this, there is little difference between what goes on there and what some fool at a bar claims he is going tell his boss the next time said boss comes up with a boneheaded idea.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
The only person giving anyone away is you, because you quite clearly have an earthlink.net URL right there, in the header, above every single post you're making. Even the densest of Slashdot poster figured out who you worked for within two seconds of reading that sentence.
FuckApple.com has been taking by Apple Proprietory Gestapo Zealots.
(Like noone is allowed to criticize right? even if constructively)
FuckLinux.com has been taken by Linux Zealots too - but with a funnier message:
"We love Linux so much we decided to take the relationship to the next level"
http://www.microsuck.com/
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...on my cruiseamericasucks.com site before the next list comes out. They rented us an RV that shook so badly that parts were literally falling off. Then they stranded us for 4 days while it was in the shop, and not only didn't credit us for the days we didn't have it, they charged us extra mileage for taking it to repair facilities. My favorite part is how they make you think you're getting a nice late model RV by taking their crapped out shells and sticking them on a new chassis. That and the fact I had to replace the passenger side mirror myself when their suggestion was to "stay in the right lane" for 1500 miles.
666-607: 6th floor apartment of the beast
radioshacksucks.com used to be a good site too. Then the courts ordered them to take it down. It's back up, but the new sight isn't as good as the one it replaced.
Coder's Stone: The programming language quick ref for iPad
Michael Moore has made documentaries on the company that bought us out, but it didn't appear in this article. Sigh.
paypalsucks.com is sponsored by Paypal's competition.
The "webmaster" deletes POSITIVE statements about Paypal or anyone who defends them.
The site presents all sorts of problems like:
"Paypal doesn't have a visible phone number"
Well, then genius critic - why DON'T YOU POST PROMINENTLY ON YOUR SITE.
I hate people who pose a problem without any action to find a solution.
It's equivalent to not voting (or advocating if you can't) and complaining about our president!
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
I may get modded down for this but...
... "one fight at a time".
:)
As much as I respect your right to have an opinion, this has got to stop. It's one thing to provide details to a problem, and it's another to give step-by-step instructions on how to exploit the problem.
Such advice actively assists in the diluting of Slashdot. There are other problems here but you know the saying
Unfortunately, I know the way comment moderation works around here - comments that don't toe the party line are moderated down until they get filtered right off the page.
Make humorous light of other poster's spellings, or use witty misspellings in your posts. I don't know why, but for the past few months the moderators seem to have B.S.'s in English.
That B.S. degree in English works great with the B.A. in Engineering.
Really, someone that's THAT meticulous, should fucking know better.
Now that you've read this far, how'd I do? Karma heaven, here I come! (Posting AC for the absurdity of it)
And for good measure, a personal favorite scene:
Owner: Take this object, but beware it carries a terrible curse!
Homer: [worried] Ooooh, that's bad.
Owner: But it comes with a free Frogurt!
Homer: [relieved] That's good.
Owner: The Frogurt is also cursed.
Homer: [worried] That's bad.
Owner: But you get your choice of topping!
Homer: [relieved] That's good.
Owner: The toppings contains Potassium Benzoate.
Homer: [stares]
Owner: That's bad.
We thought of that possibility, and contacted the French military for comment.
The spokesman capitalized.
hawk
I think that first website they mention is just awful! The usability is terrible, the colour scheme - ugh!
In fact, it's so bad, I think I'll set up a website where we can all share our awful experiences with it. Now what will I call it?
Xenu loves you!
The poster I originally replied to implied that RSS had all but won the suit bought against them by RS. It is quite clear that they did no such thing. They caved, and now they operate a site that is at least severely curtailed in terms of their original purpose,...
..and at most virtually pro-RS. The RS lawyers got what they wanted. They won. Are you really debating that?
Sorry to butt in here, but the original purpose of the site was, I believe, for the site operator to post a complaint and vent his spleen about Radio Shack. He continues to have his views protected by US courts.
Am I debating what? That the layers won? No, but perhaps you could show me just what was given to the site operators other than the injunction language. What is missing are the side agreements and proof of liability exposure that Radio Shack felt they hand on him. Have you access to that documentation?
This is the crux of it. RSS are no longer "fighting the good fight".
So what you really want is a crusade. Well, that is not always protected by the First Amendment. What is protected is the right for you to post publicly-available information related to your "target" and offer your opinion on that information. You do not have a First Amendment right to use your website as a clearing house for speculation, poorly documented complaints that might not stand in a court of law, and (in some cases) indisputably libelous information. If you owned a company and saw information about your company that you knew to be blatenly false, are you trying to tell me that you would do nothing about it?
Now isn't that what you are really debating? If not, then why shouldn't Radio Shack have any say about the information posted on RSS?
I am not arguing whether Radio Shack is a crappy company or not, nor am I arguing that RSS continues to operate the way they did before the injunction. Just consider the fact that we are not privy to all the information that the courts had when this operator accepted the injuction in lieu of being shut down permanently.
Ask yourself this question: "Would I willingly give up my right to free speech without a fight?" If the answer is "no", then I think we can both agree that Radio Shack would have to have an atomic bomb over our heads before we would sign away our rights.
Maybe Radio Shack had an atomic bomb with RSS' name on it.
"Rocky Rococo, at your cervix!"
You forgot to mention complaining about dupes, too
I don't moderate anymore. Karma penalty for 90% fair mods? Can I mod that unfair?