Thanks for digging up that information about the price. I was pretty excited about the phone till I saw the price tag.
I'm on a bit of a quest right now for the perfect cell phone. The Razr was a candidate too until I saw the steep price tag. Guess I'll stick with my old school Nokia "brick" until this stuff comes down in price.
I think there's a more important lesson to be learned here: People will react when you go against the terms of their license. I must admit that I am on BitKeeper's side. Linus and company was using the product under a certain set of terms, and they went against these terms.
It's a shameful that Linus & co. expect people to play by the rules of their license when they don't respect the license of the very products they're using. Had they simply walked away from the product and had some other team develop a replacement product we'd never be having this conversation.
And what would you propose IS "the masses"? There are several million Mac users that make up 4% of the overall market (Last time I checked). I'd definitely say that constitutes a significant mass of people. Thus, it is safe to say this is technology being brought to the masses.
Furthermore, my post, although specifically mentioning spotlight, was more general in it's intent to refer to the technology both MS and Apple are bringing to the table. Now we're talking about *at least* 96% of the overall market (Assuming Linux and other *NIXs are ~4%). THAT is definitely bringing it to the masses.
re: Search --> We're not talking about searching for file names with some matching string, or partially matching string. This is metadata search, AND filename search. I'm probably missing something here, but there's a particular/. user getting a lot of press lately whose comments you might want to read.
re: Scripting --> It's not that the OS will have scripting, it's that there'll be a user interface to make it easy for the masses.
Some of the things you do have a point about, but you need to consider that a lot of these features are being touted as they're either just being brought to the masses, or being brought in an easier to use way.
Well, I'm going to pretend you weren't rude and give you a legitimate answers. Take a look at this page. You see that wheel looking thing between the left and right mouse button? That's called a scroll wheel. I, and my others, have found that with FF 1.0, and it's subsequent releases, that that wheel does not work for the OS X version of said software. Now, if we look in Bugzilla for this bug we find it's there! I'm not pulling things out of my ass! Here, and here.
Lesson of the day Mr. Coward: Next time before you're rude because you think someone doesn't know what they're talking about, why don't you ask them to clarify themselves first?
Firefox for OS X has an annoying scrolling bug for wheel mice. It's fixed in the nightlies and has been for quite some time now. Does anyone know if this security update happened to include this fix as well?
Whilst I agree with you, when I read that portion of his review I thought to myself that he might in fact be correct. It seems to me that most of the features being included in Tiger are beyond the user's immediate ability to see as they're all behind the scenes.
I don't know about you, but I think I'm more excited about the tools and features being brought to developers through Tiger than anything else. My favorite OS X app, Quick Silver, is requiring Tiger for it's next release. I'm looking forward to playing with these new features and seeing what developers do with them.
How on earth does that make sense? You propose that our (Yes, I'm Canadian) government spend tax dollars that don't exist to pay artists while their material is shared freely across the globe via P2P?
Do you realize that most local Canadian bands already have free MP3s being shared on their websites or through websites like New Music Canada? The artists you listed that would benefit belong to the music cartel. These are also the only people losing right now.
There's an indie music boom in Canada because of the current laws. The only thing the government should do is leave everything as it is alone and let the market take shape BEFORE sticking their fingers into things.
I haven't yet accessed the full text article, but the poster mentioned that the scientists in question are selectively killing only cancerous cells via down regulation of telomerase. Can anyone verify this? If so, how are they doing it?
Then there's the third choice: Develop your own competing software and come out on top. They're a developing country, they're not stupid. I'm sure they don't need F/OSS to develop "...[their] own technoligy later..." (Speaking of which, you might want to use spell checking technology).
It doesn't do you much good to be a partner in a developing country when you aren't getting a return on your investment. They need capitol, not gratitude. I'm not trying to say these countries shouldn't use F/OSS, I'm just saying that the GPL may not be ideal when you're trying to make money.
I believe it's sort of inevitable that these countries will adopt IP laws similar to our own to protect the investment their companies will put into their products. No one likes freeloaders.
Like you said, IP isn't a requirement in the upward motion, but I think it's a requirement to keep afloat.
I suppose that would depend on how one defined intelligence. I think that you could fairly accurately say that this computer has an equivalent or better ability to compute than the human brain. Even then, one has to wonder if computers have had a greater ability to compute things than the human brain for quite some time.
Someone probably beat me to this, but I'm pretty sure Jobs or someone at Apple mentioned that they'll be releasing major OS updates (e.g. 10.4) on a much slower schedule. Perhaps from one a year, to one every two years. I can't find a link at the moment to verify this, but I'm sure someone else will.
This case should have been thrown out of court. Any moron who couldn't figure out that some strings must be attached should just be shot and pissed on. When something sounds too good to be true, chances are it is and a little investigation may be in need.
The reason we want DOC open is so we can use our data from it in new ways, or to move to other software more easily.
For example, imagine if the output from all your command line tools was in some proprietary format. Things like piping and awk would be impossible.
My apologies, the article does in fact say that the change was on the genetic level, albeit in a very guttural way:
Various rare events can make this happen, but none involve altering the actual sequence of DNA units in the gene. Yet when the researchers analyzed the mutated gene, known as hothead, they found it had changed, with the mutated DNA units being changed back to normal form.
Does anyone else by their hypothesis of an RNA backup to the genome? If this existed, where could it be stored, or how could it be stored in a manner that prevented the rapid degradation that plagues RNA?
The thing I didn't understand from the article was if this was a phenotypic reversal or genetical reversal (i.e. the gene of interest mutated back to the exact sequence as the wild type sequence). If it's just a phenotypic reversal couldn't that just be attributed to a mutation in and of itself that mirrors the wild type phenotype?
That aside, does anyone have a reference so I can read the actual Nature article?
But wouldn't this just encourage migration to a more free and stable platform ("Stable" as in your application is likely to run across several new versions of the platform)?
Consider the whole VB6 situation MS is in. A large sum of developers who want access to an old feature set that they're dependent on are being forced to move to a new feature set (Albeit from what I've read a much better one). These people are bitching and moaning and likely to move on to a new, more stable (same context as before) platform to develop, e.g. Real Basic, or perhaps a Real Language;)
Is that what it really is? If SUN opened up Java everyone could have native LAFs for their Java apps, much in the way that Apple puts a good deal of time into making sure the LAF of a Java app is close to that of a native Cocoa or Carbon app. And in this manner integrity can be assured. Mind you some sort of international body would need to be established to ensure that Java is maintained as a consistent standard. (In that regard I think I'd prefer a dictatorship over the Java language -- Dictatorships can get things done faster. SUN also appears to be a benevolent dictator much like Linus).
The only question I have for Gosling is why these same alleged customers didn't have the same concerns when Solaris was opened. And if they did, how did SUN manage to quell these fears?
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Thanks for digging up that information about the price. I was pretty excited about the phone till I saw the price tag.
I'm on a bit of a quest right now for the perfect cell phone. The Razr was a candidate too until I saw the steep price tag. Guess I'll stick with my old school Nokia "brick" until this stuff comes down in price.
I think there's a more important lesson to be learned here: People will react when you go against the terms of their license. I must admit that I am on BitKeeper's side. Linus and company was using the product under a certain set of terms, and they went against these terms.
It's a shameful that Linus & co. expect people to play by the rules of their license when they don't respect the license of the very products they're using. Had they simply walked away from the product and had some other team develop a replacement product we'd never be having this conversation.
And what would you propose IS "the masses"? There are several million Mac users that make up 4% of the overall market (Last time I checked). I'd definitely say that constitutes a significant mass of people. Thus, it is safe to say this is technology being brought to the masses.
Furthermore, my post, although specifically mentioning spotlight, was more general in it's intent to refer to the technology both MS and Apple are bringing to the table. Now we're talking about *at least* 96% of the overall market (Assuming Linux and other *NIXs are ~4%). THAT is definitely bringing it to the masses.
Yes, you're missing some things.
re: Search --> We're not talking about searching for file names with some matching string, or partially matching string. This is metadata search, AND filename search. I'm probably missing something here, but there's a particular /. user getting a lot of press lately whose comments you might want to read.
re: Scripting --> It's not that the OS will have scripting, it's that there'll be a user interface to make it easy for the masses.
Some of the things you do have a point about, but you need to consider that a lot of these features are being touted as they're either just being brought to the masses, or being brought in an easier to use way.
Well, I'm going to pretend you weren't rude and give you a legitimate answers. Take a look at this page. You see that wheel looking thing between the left and right mouse button? That's called a scroll wheel. I, and my others, have found that with FF 1.0, and it's subsequent releases, that that wheel does not work for the OS X version of said software. Now, if we look in Bugzilla for this bug we find it's there! I'm not pulling things out of my ass! Here, and here.
Lesson of the day Mr. Coward: Next time before you're rude because you think someone doesn't know what they're talking about, why don't you ask them to clarify themselves first?
Firefox for OS X has an annoying scrolling bug for wheel mice. It's fixed in the nightlies and has been for quite some time now. Does anyone know if this security update happened to include this fix as well?
Eclipse 3.1 works fine, and I don't get the "java -version" crash another user reported.
Whilst I agree with you, when I read that portion of his review I thought to myself that he might in fact be correct. It seems to me that most of the features being included in Tiger are beyond the user's immediate ability to see as they're all behind the scenes.
I don't know about you, but I think I'm more excited about the tools and features being brought to developers through Tiger than anything else. My favorite OS X app, Quick Silver, is requiring Tiger for it's next release. I'm looking forward to playing with these new features and seeing what developers do with them.
Careful -- they might mean "breasts".
Finally, open source breasts! Geeks everywhere can compile their own breasts and cop a feel for the first time :)
How on earth does that make sense? You propose that our (Yes, I'm Canadian) government spend tax dollars that don't exist to pay artists while their material is shared freely across the globe via P2P?
Do you realize that most local Canadian bands already have free MP3s being shared on their websites or through websites like New Music Canada? The artists you listed that would benefit belong to the music cartel. These are also the only people losing right now.
There's an indie music boom in Canada because of the current laws. The only thing the government should do is leave everything as it is alone and let the market take shape BEFORE sticking their fingers into things.
Not entirely true as, "Telomerase is present in most fetal tissues, normal adult male germ cells, inflammatory cells, in proliferative cells of renewal tissues, and in most tumor cells.". This begs the question how you destroy cancerous cells without destroying normal cells that require the telomerase enzyme.
I haven't yet accessed the full text article, but the poster mentioned that the scientists in question are selectively killing only cancerous cells via down regulation of telomerase. Can anyone verify this? If so, how are they doing it?
I don't quite see why your overwhelming interest is in providing them with a govenment building?
Well played ;)
Then there's the third choice: Develop your own competing software and come out on top. They're a developing country, they're not stupid. I'm sure they don't need F/OSS to develop "...[their] own technoligy later..." (Speaking of which, you might want to use spell checking technology).
It doesn't do you much good to be a partner in a developing country when you aren't getting a return on your investment. They need capitol, not gratitude. I'm not trying to say these countries shouldn't use F/OSS, I'm just saying that the GPL may not be ideal when you're trying to make money.
I believe it's sort of inevitable that these countries will adopt IP laws similar to our own to protect the investment their companies will put into their products. No one likes freeloaders.
Like you said, IP isn't a requirement in the upward motion, but I think it's a requirement to keep afloat.
"but I still wouldn't want to be near a collapsing star.." Man, tell me about it. I hate to be anywhere near Lindsay Lohan in a few months...
It all depends on who's willing to pay the politicians more money to bugger off ;)
*puts on tinfoil hat, and begins to dig a bomb shelter*
I suppose that would depend on how one defined intelligence. I think that you could fairly accurately say that this computer has an equivalent or better ability to compute than the human brain. Even then, one has to wonder if computers have had a greater ability to compute things than the human brain for quite some time.
Someone probably beat me to this, but I'm pretty sure Jobs or someone at Apple mentioned that they'll be releasing major OS updates (e.g. 10.4) on a much slower schedule. Perhaps from one a year, to one every two years. I can't find a link at the moment to verify this, but I'm sure someone else will.
This case should have been thrown out of court. Any moron who couldn't figure out that some strings must be attached should just be shot and pissed on. When something sounds too good to be true, chances are it is and a little investigation may be in need.
The reason we want DOC open is so we can use our data from it in new ways, or to move to other software more easily. For example, imagine if the output from all your command line tools was in some proprietary format. Things like piping and awk would be impossible.
My apologies, the article does in fact say that the change was on the genetic level, albeit in a very guttural way:
Does anyone else by their hypothesis of an RNA backup to the genome? If this existed, where could it be stored, or how could it be stored in a manner that prevented the rapid degradation that plagues RNA?
The thing I didn't understand from the article was if this was a phenotypic reversal or genetical reversal (i.e. the gene of interest mutated back to the exact sequence as the wild type sequence). If it's just a phenotypic reversal couldn't that just be attributed to a mutation in and of itself that mirrors the wild type phenotype?
That aside, does anyone have a reference so I can read the actual Nature article?
But wouldn't this just encourage migration to a more free and stable platform ("Stable" as in your application is likely to run across several new versions of the platform)?
;)
Consider the whole VB6 situation MS is in. A large sum of developers who want access to an old feature set that they're dependent on are being forced to move to a new feature set (Albeit from what I've read a much better one). These people are bitching and moaning and likely to move on to a new, more stable (same context as before) platform to develop, e.g. Real Basic, or perhaps a Real Language
Oh gawd, I know what you're talking about! Making a playlist and clicking "Burn", and then ripping back to my hard drive as MP3s is such a drag!
Is that what it really is? If SUN opened up Java everyone could have native LAFs for their Java apps, much in the way that Apple puts a good deal of time into making sure the LAF of a Java app is close to that of a native Cocoa or Carbon app. And in this manner integrity can be assured. Mind you some sort of international body would need to be established to ensure that Java is maintained as a consistent standard. (In that regard I think I'd prefer a dictatorship over the Java language -- Dictatorships can get things done faster. SUN also appears to be a benevolent dictator much like Linus).
The only question I have for Gosling is why these same alleged customers didn't have the same concerns when Solaris was opened. And if they did, how did SUN manage to quell these fears?