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I'm saying that, all other things being equal, how do you have more money if you don't get spammed. How does the presence of 'spam' in your inbox cost you money.
... temporary third-level DNS entries (user@7a235f6e.example.com)
Excellent idea! This is a superior method over using temporary just to the left of the @ symbol.
Mail sent to 'user-TRASH@domain' is still received by your server, and then disposed of automatically. The server/network resources necessary for the receipt of that spam is still used, so you are no better off, but it doesn't end up in YOUR inbox.
By instead using 'user@TRASH.domain', the MX for that domain cannot be found, and thus it never leaves the hands of the spammer. The server/network resources are thus conserved for another day.:-) Much better.
That's one reason why I've been using a different domain to send spam reports from - I can eventually dispose of that domain if I no longer have need for it...
It is *normal* for commodity PC hardware to randomly blow up and do weird things, and being able to handle it without training people to press special key combinations is *good*.
I'd hide the messages unless the person watching can do something about it.
If Alan is unable to understand what via-rhine.o is, then being able to press a magic key that prints 'via-rhine.o' to the screen will do him no good.
However Bob understands what via-rhine.o means, and he knows the key to print it onto the screen.
Take for example 'F8' on old MSDOS bootups. I never knew about pressing that key until I understood enough to know what I was being asked. If I knew the key before understanding the questions MSDOS was asking me, I would have been lost.
If you can do something with the message, then you'll know how to find the message.
Sorry, I seem to have created some confusion. My mistake.
There are so many other factors which go into performance than clock speed.
Yes, I agree. The numbers (see the parent of my first post in this thread) were from someone's test which I understands just does a bit of maths through the processor.
Saying that 'my processor did N operations therefore my architecture is better' is, as you say, inaccurate. That's what the last paragraph was attempting to say.:-)
I'm not trying to disagree with your post, just to clarify mine. I agree with what you say.
Agreed. I haven't spent a cent on MS software in years.
However I am concerned for people around me that haven't made that decision because 'nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft'.
Microsoft has an amazing marketing campaign, lots of people believe it, lots of people buy the products.
I can't believe they'd put up with the crap MS software throws at you. Just last night someone emailled me to say that their install of Windows 2000 Server which they had been slaving over for hours didn't work and they were going to spend hours slaving over it reinstalling. They have to be masochists to put up with it.
I don't want my friends abused like that. They are worth more than having to restart their computer or put up with _vti_inf.html attacks.
With a calculator. It was a ratio 1800MHz:876 for the Sparc against 1700MHz:573 for the P4.
Architecture is a big deal here. I believe the benchmark those figures came from only benchmarks the CPU speed, and doesn't take into account other parts. Sparc is more than a CPU, which was all the benchmark is a commentary on.
If the test took into account overall systems performance, how much could be pumped through the bus, yay my north bridge runs at 100MHz, I can transfer twice as many bits per cycle, nyah nyah, my EISA card supports buffer writeback, bla bla bla, (eh?), rather than just seeing how many times it could divide 16 by 5, then it would be a more useful commentary on the state of the Sparc.
Oh boodely boo. Different architectures. You're comparing snails and slugs.
And your numbers are all up the wazoo too.
An UltraSparc III @ 900MHz that you cite above has a little over half the MHz of a P4 1.7GHz. So get UltraSparc's score, double it, and you get... 876, which is more than the shoddy 573 the P4 gets.
DSL rocks if you're near a central office - and with speeds in development approaching 4MBps and higher - sweet!
DSL allows around 8Mbit/sec transfers, dependant on line conditions.
If you split that asynchronously (ADSL) you can have 7.9 down and.8 up. (I live about 2KM from the exchange and that's what I get.) If on the other hand you split that synchronously (SDSL) you get 4 down and 4 up.
The technology is there, just that the money (or the will) isn't.
Most people understand money. They want something, they are ready to shell out for it. We've been giving it away for free and people have been willing to pay, so why not have them pay?
You should charge what the market will bear. If the market will bear a per-seat license, then per-seat license it is.
Also charging stops having to explain about giving stuff away for free. Saves time, and time is money, so charging them saves you money, and makes you money too!
If someone visits my homepages, grabs one sentence and applies SmartQuotes to it, that is fair use. If they do it to every sentence, they are stealing my intellectual property.
Now, my website is distributed under the OpenContent license. If they do not comply with clause 2a they are violating the license under which I allow them to download from my website. They are violating my license. It's MY website. It is still MY file no matter where it is.
(Clause 2a: a) You must cause the modified content to carry prominent notices stating that you changed it, the exact nature and content of the changes, and the date of any change.)
A lot of my friends use MSN Messenger and Hotmail. My friends that used to use only ICQ are now either MSN and ICQ users, or use MSN exclusively now.
Why I mention this is that MSN Messenger and ICQ has different views of where to store data. MSN is all on the server, while ICQ is all on the user's machine. Different perspectives on computing.
They have their merit, and Messenger seems to be the favourite. On ICQ I would continually hear... I'm about to format my computer. Send me a message in an hour if you want to be on my new list. Aw, but I deleted my old list, send me a message so I can add you again.
Messenger doesn't have this trouble because MSN looks after your list. I go to a cybercafe 12 hours drive away and PACHOW my list downloads and its just like being at home, or just like using my mate's computer, or just like using my Dad's computer.
Although I like ICQ because I can hack the client and add people to my list without their authorisation, there are strong reasons why server-side is good for some applications.
No no no I will not store my MP3s or private documents on a third parties computer. Driveway.com and iDrive both bit me when they terminated their file sharing.
But you can have my MSN Messenger list. I don't mind.
How come you get to be "Insightful" and the parent of your message is a "Troll". Sheesh, get it around the right way folks.
Speeding is a VICTIMLESS crime, which should NOT be illegal.
So you mean all those ambulances carting stretchers from road accidents don't actually have people in them? And all those coffins of crash victims are empty?
Maybe it's just a big conspiracy. Maybe speeding really is victimless. I didn't realise.
And after I wasted a whole day going to my mate's funeral. Damn.
Due to the close positioning between the words security flaws and the major turning point regarding running it in kernel space, I think Tux is revolutionary in that it will let us completely destroy the server, rather than just DOS the http daemon.
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You are a bonehead. LOOK dammit.
Link number 1: https://jetstream-usage.telecom.co.nz/
This is a link to my service providers website that states how much data has been transferred to/from my computer.
Link number 2:
This is a link that explains the pricing structure. Look at it! additional MB charges over monthly plan limit
Spam costs money. Spam costs me money! Then my server has to bounce mail back, and that costs more money!
Get a clue! Bandwidth costs money. Money. You hear that? MONEY! And it's MY money. Not the spammer's money.
I have to pay to read their crap. Can you not understand this?
Appending? You mean like Office K, similiar to the breakfast cereal Special K?
"Prepending" is the word you want.
You'll notice that Taco filed this in the 'what-round-is-this' department, meaning, what time around has this been posted as news.
Also, the "follow-ups" category does exist. It is called 'Slashback'.
I believe Mandrake 8.0 has just that.
Hmmm, sort of changes the meaning of 'boot image' doesn't it? :-)
Excellent idea! This is a superior method over using temporary just to the left of the @ symbol.
Mail sent to 'user-TRASH@domain' is still received by your server, and then disposed of automatically. The server/network resources necessary for the receipt of that spam is still used, so you are no better off, but it doesn't end up in YOUR inbox.
By instead using 'user@TRASH.domain', the MX for that domain cannot be found, and thus it never leaves the hands of the spammer. The server/network resources are thus conserved for another day. :-) Much better.
That's one reason why I've been using a different domain to send spam reports from - I can eventually dispose of that domain if I no longer have need for it ...
What better way to try out Google's new image searching facility than looking for pictures of the loch ness monster?
Only one 'SmartTag' link is visible, but how much is actually shown in that screenshot? Not much of a document.
(And using a GIF to store that as? Those people need their heads read ...)
It is *normal* for commodity PC hardware to randomly blow up and do weird things, and being able to handle it without training people to press special key combinations is *good*.
I'd hide the messages unless the person watching can do something about it.
If Alan is unable to understand what via-rhine.o is, then being able to press a magic key that prints 'via-rhine.o' to the screen will do him no good.
However Bob understands what via-rhine.o means, and he knows the key to print it onto the screen.
Take for example 'F8' on old MSDOS bootups. I never knew about pressing that key until I understood enough to know what I was being asked. If I knew the key before understanding the questions MSDOS was asking me, I would have been lost.
If you can do something with the message, then you'll know how to find the message.
Sorry, I seem to have created some confusion. My mistake.
There are so many other factors which go into performance than clock speed.
Yes, I agree. The numbers (see the parent of my first post in this thread) were from someone's test which I understands just does a bit of maths through the processor.
Saying that 'my processor did N operations therefore my architecture is better' is, as you say, inaccurate. That's what the last paragraph was attempting to say. :-)
I'm not trying to disagree with your post, just to clarify mine. I agree with what you say.
Solution: Don't buy the thing ...
Agreed. I haven't spent a cent on MS software in years.
However I am concerned for people around me that haven't made that decision because 'nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft'.
Microsoft has an amazing marketing campaign, lots of people believe it, lots of people buy the products.
I can't believe they'd put up with the crap MS software throws at you. Just last night someone emailled me to say that their install of Windows 2000 Server which they had been slaving over for hours didn't work and they were going to spend hours slaving over it reinstalling. They have to be masochists to put up with it.
I don't want my friends abused like that. They are worth more than having to restart their computer or put up with _vti_inf.html attacks.
Save what people you can before it is too late!
With a calculator. It was a ratio 1800MHz:876 for the Sparc against 1700MHz:573 for the P4.
Architecture is a big deal here. I believe the benchmark those figures came from only benchmarks the CPU speed, and doesn't take into account other parts. Sparc is more than a CPU, which was all the benchmark is a commentary on.
If the test took into account overall systems performance, how much could be pumped through the bus, yay my north bridge runs at 100MHz, I can transfer twice as many bits per cycle, nyah nyah, my EISA card supports buffer writeback, bla bla bla, (eh?), rather than just seeing how many times it could divide 16 by 5, then it would be a more useful commentary on the state of the Sparc.
The parent to my post was saying that the superior numbers the P4 manages to pump through its CPU make it better than the Sparc.
I was comparing the MHz:benchmark ratio of the processors, rather than the raw numbers.
Oh boodely boo. Different architectures. You're comparing snails and slugs.
And your numbers are all up the wazoo too.
An UltraSparc III @ 900MHz that you cite above has a little over half the MHz of a P4 1.7GHz. So get UltraSparc's score, double it, and you get ... 876, which is more than the shoddy 573 the P4 gets.
It's the hardware.
They don't have a hard drive in them. All they have is N megabytes of Flash RAM that has to store the OS, and the configuration.
If they stored those logs in the Flash RAM then:
No one is stopping you from obtaining a subscription to MSDN. This gets MAILED RIGHT TO YOUR DOOR.
So they still get your personal info, even if it doesn't go through Passport(tm).
DSL rocks if you're near a central office - and with speeds in development approaching 4MBps and higher - sweet!
DSL allows around 8Mbit/sec transfers, dependant on line conditions.
If you split that asynchronously (ADSL) you can have 7.9 down and .8 up. (I live about 2KM from the exchange and that's what I get.) If on the other hand you split that synchronously (SDSL) you get 4 down and 4 up.
The technology is there, just that the money (or the will) isn't.
They didn't assume wrong, they assumed wrongly. BWAHAHAHA! Get your English corekt.
Most people understand money. They want something, they are ready to shell out for it. We've been giving it away for free and people have been willing to pay, so why not have them pay?
You should charge what the market will bear. If the market will bear a per-seat license, then per-seat license it is.
Also charging stops having to explain about giving stuff away for free. Saves time, and time is money, so charging them saves you money, and makes you money too!
Have you read the story of Bob Kolody vs. Coca-Cola?
100% quoting of a document is not fair use.
If someone visits my homepages, grabs one sentence and applies SmartQuotes to it, that is fair use. If they do it to every sentence, they are stealing my intellectual property.
Now, my website is distributed under the OpenContent license. If they do not comply with clause 2a they are violating the license under which I allow them to download from my website. They are violating my license. It's MY website. It is still MY file no matter where it is.
(Clause 2a: a) You must cause the modified content to carry prominent notices stating that you changed it, the exact nature and content of the changes, and the date of any change.)
Hum her hah. I'm a bit divided over this.
MY data is one SOMEONE ELSE's machine.
A lot of my friends use MSN Messenger and Hotmail. My friends that used to use only ICQ are now either MSN and ICQ users, or use MSN exclusively now.
Why I mention this is that MSN Messenger and ICQ has different views of where to store data. MSN is all on the server, while ICQ is all on the user's machine. Different perspectives on computing.
They have their merit, and Messenger seems to be the favourite. On ICQ I would continually hear ... I'm about to format my computer. Send me a message in an hour if you want to be on my new list. Aw, but I deleted my old list, send me a message so I can add you again.
Messenger doesn't have this trouble because MSN looks after your list. I go to a cybercafe 12 hours drive away and PACHOW my list downloads and its just like being at home, or just like using my mate's computer, or just like using my Dad's computer.
Although I like ICQ because I can hack the client and add people to my list without their authorisation, there are strong reasons why server-side is good for some applications.
No no no I will not store my MP3s or private documents on a third parties computer. Driveway.com and iDrive both bit me when they terminated their file sharing.
But you can have my MSN Messenger list. I don't mind.
How come you get to be "Insightful" and the parent of your message is a "Troll". Sheesh, get it around the right way folks.
Speeding is a VICTIMLESS crime, which should NOT be illegal.
So you mean all those ambulances carting stretchers from road accidents don't actually have people in them? And all those coffins of crash victims are empty?
Maybe it's just a big conspiracy. Maybe speeding really is victimless. I didn't realise.
And after I wasted a whole day going to my mate's funeral. Damn.
Due to the close positioning between the words security flaws and the major turning point regarding running it in kernel space, I think Tux is revolutionary in that it will let us completely destroy the server, rather than just DOS the http daemon.
That is what makes it such a major turning point.
That's a succinct way of wording it. :-)
/me is just downloading Mozilla/0.9.9.9.9.1. They haven't yet pushed the version number over to /1.0 yet because there are a few bits to go.
I haven't used it myself, but reports say that IE on the Mac is good - better than IE on Win.
It's implementation of standards is superior. At the moment IE5/Win's CSS 'width' attribute implementation is peeing me off.