I have been part of a large group for teens with such problems as self-injury, depression, eating disorders etc.( recoveryourlife.com )and I have found it to be very helpful since it provides an alternative to the many teens who feel alienated from their parents,therapists and schools. It's well known that if teens are feeling depressed and suicidal etc. they will usually talk to their friends before most of the adults in their lives - if at all. A well run forum can give a kid a place to decompress if not to even find a solution in time.
Teens resistance to speaking with parents, teachers, therapists etc. is often justified. Many kids are abused and neglected at home, and will hesitate to talk with anyone about a problem (indeed many of them assume its their fault and that they deserve their problems as punishment for being "worthless"). When some do find themselves in treatment they become the focus, as if they aksed for the problem and all difficulties stem from them.
A kid can be getting degraded at home, and when they begin to demonstrate problems from the stresses, they get hit with a few labels from the DSM and then chemically embalmed, while the real culprits are allowed to keep tearing the kid down. For a lot of teens, their obvious problems are the result of the secret sins of others who will never be get focused on.
Seeing a lot of teens in one place over time is very interesting since the a lot of trends become more visible - trends that are often supported by information in the media such as this article about support sites. One fact that becomes clear is that many kids find no relief from "meds" and indeed lament the side effects.
Teens are given medications in a manner similiar to how a mechanic goes about fixing a car when they don't know what the cause is. Kids are given a medication to see if it will work, and then when it doesn't they will be given another medication and so on. Meds "get tossed at the wall to see if anything sticks". Most of the time the meds don't work and indeed very often it makes kids feel worse. The begin to understand they are guinea pigs.
One scenario is that a teacher will notice a kid having problems and refer them to the counselor. The counselor takes a crack at solving any problem and then passed the kid on to a therapist, who will then pass the kid on to a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist will do a little "chit-chat, soft-shoe therapy" and then try a sequence of meds which usually make the kid feel worse. Then when nothing works the kid is labeled "Borderline" or something, and in any event deemed difficult to treat and sent back to the parents - one of whom is often crazier than the kid ever was.
The mainstream system and approach to helping kids is broken. Not only are the solutions not efective for an original problem, but they often make problems worse with a back-asswards approach that deepens a kids psychotic haze and never addresses any original cause.
As families break down under relentless pressures, propaganda, and excuses the problems kids have continue to escalate. Kids today are growing-up in mean, loveless world, with often only a sham culture and misinformation to fall back on. The real roots of problems are ignored and a kid getting knocked down the stairs once a week is asked to believe they are "probably" depressed because of their "genes" or brain abnormality as scan research "may" suggest - lots of "probablies" and "mays" get definately acted on in modern pasychology.
Any one support site will not necessarily resemble another, and some sites can be debilitating if poorly moderated or conceived. That said, I have found that many kids who feel isolated benefit from finding each other and being able to compare notes and even to socialize (many kids justifiably feel awful at school). Well run Forums on the web can really help kids to talk about what their problems are when they feel like they can't at home or with the therapist who usually wants to attack the symptom.
Most habits are a product of conditioning which have elements of hypnotic reinforcement that are broken by awareness and objectivity. Concentration itslef can be a hypnotic function, and when people worry and struggle with a problem they are actually deepening the psychic hold it has. If a person gets upset about their smoking and struggle with it willfully, it often just makes them want to smoke more. A person who can step back from a compuslion and become objective to it can find themselves free of any habit without having withdrawl symptoms.
One reason I don't like the MIT article is that it takes secondary, descriptive elements and gives them causality. It's like a study that finds depressed people cry more, so a claim is made that there must be something about tears that makes people sad. This is how psychological studies are foisted around these days.Ridiculous "brain scan" research is given enormous credibilty while something like hypnosis is poorly understood and yet dismissed because hypnotists themselves abuse it.
People have a type of "body memory" called conditioned reflex response and people with Post Truamatic Stress Disorder especially can find compulsive thoughts and feelings taking away their control. When people react and respond sharply to something, the shock suspends their own "critical factors" and the sub-conscious is accessed. Suggestions and impressions get in under the consciousness and can continually over-ride it. Mental tapes and cues more closely tied to the body and its urges will play over and over again in the mind, and fighting them actually feeds the mechanism. People give in to them from exhaustion because it's like driving with the breaks on.
A bad habit like smoking is often used by people to cope with an obverreactive nature. people get stressed and upset and they want a smoke. If they get super ennervated and happy they can want to smoke from that extreme as well. But the smoking is also a denial mechanism that keeps awareness of any failing at bay and and so objectivity becomes a hard thing to cleave to. It's a chemical hypnosis that tames the tiger within and keeps peple fixated away from harsher realites. Yet this also produces guilt and people who need to smoke to asuage the guilt of being angry and upset will need to then need to smoke to assuage the guilt os smoking. People who can see their compulsive nature and not react to it defensively
are often the ones who will go for a cigarette one day and it just wont look interesting anymore - then the spell is broken.
An unfortuante thing about modern psychology is that it just doesn't see people as people anymore but as machines. The magic of awareness just doesn't count for much. The ancients knew human beings had two natures - a lower and higher one. When people fall from their center and their innocence its like a conductor falling into an orchestra and they get entangled in the impulses of their lower nature. A craving for a smoke is an animal nature crying out for more of what created it. That's why when people give up smoking they can get addicted to other things like food or even gambling that had no "substance"
After NASA's new directore Michael Griffin recently called the space shuttle and space station "mistakes" I would bet that this story was cultered-up to soften his comments.
From http://www.wftv.com/news/5032927/detail.html
KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, Fla. -- There were stunning comments made Wednesday by NASA's new leader: Michael Griffin believes the space shuttle and the international space station programs were mistakes. Now, Space Coast workers are firing back.
People at Kennedy Space Center were generally shocked to read what Griffin said. NASA's administrator has said before he believed the shuttle was flawed, but 14 people gave their lives to the shuttle program and other people who devoted their lives said Griffin went too far.
"I saw that this morning and immediately spilled coffee all over myself," said Charles Mars.
Mars spent years working on the planning and development of the space shuttle and the space station and when he read NASA's administrator called the programs a mistake, he took it personally.
"You know, I get angry. I can't believe I was working on a mistake. Two mistakes, shuttle and the space station. No, not a mistake," Mars said.
I frequent some large forums and Firefox chokes-up like a baby on hot sauce. It's been the worst of four browsers I use and is more heat than light. It reminds me of one of those old MG sports cars - a great toy when it was working but prone to breakdowns.
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I have been part of a large group for teens with such problems as self-injury, depression, eating disorders etc.( recoveryourlife.com )and I have found it to be very helpful since it provides an alternative to the many teens who feel alienated from their parents,therapists and schools. It's well known that if teens are feeling depressed and suicidal etc. they will usually talk to their friends before most of the adults in their lives - if at all. A well run forum can give a kid a place to decompress if not to even find a solution in time.
Teens resistance to speaking with parents, teachers, therapists etc. is often justified. Many kids are abused and neglected at home, and will hesitate to talk with anyone about a problem (indeed many of them assume its their fault and that they deserve their problems as punishment for being "worthless"). When some do find themselves in treatment they become the focus, as if they aksed for the problem and all difficulties stem from them.
A kid can be getting degraded at home, and when they begin to demonstrate problems from the stresses, they get hit with a few labels from the DSM and
then chemically embalmed, while the real culprits are allowed to keep tearing the kid down. For a lot of teens, their obvious problems are the result of the secret sins of others who will never be get focused on.
Seeing a lot of teens in one place over time is very interesting since the a lot of trends become more visible - trends that are often supported by information in the media such as this article about support sites. One fact that becomes clear is that many kids find no relief from "meds" and indeed lament the side effects.
Teens are given medications in a manner similiar to how a mechanic goes about fixing a car when they don't know what the cause is. Kids are given a medication to see if it will work, and then when it doesn't they will be given another medication and so on. Meds "get tossed at the wall to see if anything sticks". Most of the time the meds don't work and indeed very often it makes kids feel worse. The begin to understand they are guinea pigs.
One scenario is that a teacher will notice a kid having problems and refer them to the counselor. The counselor takes a crack at solving any problem and then passed the kid on to a therapist, who will then pass the kid on to a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist will do a little "chit-chat, soft-shoe therapy" and then try a sequence of meds which usually make the kid feel worse. Then when nothing works the kid is labeled "Borderline" or something, and in any event deemed difficult to treat and sent back to the parents - one of whom is often crazier than the kid ever was.
The mainstream system and approach to helping kids is broken. Not only are the solutions not efective for an original problem, but they often make problems worse with a back-asswards approach that deepens a kids psychotic haze and never addresses any original cause.
As families break down under relentless pressures, propaganda, and excuses the problems kids have continue to escalate. Kids today are growing-up in mean, loveless world, with often only a sham culture and misinformation to fall back on. The real roots of problems are ignored and a kid getting knocked down the stairs once a week is asked to believe they are "probably" depressed because of their "genes" or brain abnormality as scan research "may" suggest - lots of "probablies" and "mays" get definately acted on in modern pasychology.
Any one support site will not necessarily resemble another, and some sites can be debilitating if poorly moderated or conceived. That said, I have found that many kids who feel isolated benefit from finding each other and being able to compare notes and even to socialize (many kids justifiably feel awful at school). Well run Forums on the web can really help kids to talk about what their problems are when they feel like they can't at home or with the therapist who usually wants to attack the symptom.
Most habits are a product of conditioning which have elements of hypnotic reinforcement that are broken by awareness and objectivity. Concentration itslef can be a hypnotic function, and when people worry and struggle with a problem they are actually deepening the psychic hold it has. If a person gets upset about their smoking and struggle with it willfully, it often just makes them want to smoke more. A person who can step back from a compuslion and become objective to it can find themselves free of any habit without having withdrawl symptoms. One reason I don't like the MIT article is that it takes secondary, descriptive elements and gives them causality. It's like a study that finds depressed people cry more, so a claim is made that there must be something about tears that makes people sad. This is how psychological studies are foisted around these days.Ridiculous "brain scan" research is given enormous credibilty while something like hypnosis is poorly understood and yet dismissed because hypnotists themselves abuse it. People have a type of "body memory" called conditioned reflex response and people with Post Truamatic Stress Disorder especially can find compulsive thoughts and feelings taking away their control. When people react and respond sharply to something, the shock suspends their own "critical factors" and the sub-conscious is accessed. Suggestions and impressions get in under the consciousness and can continually over-ride it. Mental tapes and cues more closely tied to the body and its urges will play over and over again in the mind, and fighting them actually feeds the mechanism. People give in to them from exhaustion because it's like driving with the breaks on. A bad habit like smoking is often used by people to cope with an obverreactive nature. people get stressed and upset and they want a smoke. If they get super ennervated and happy they can want to smoke from that extreme as well. But the smoking is also a denial mechanism that keeps awareness of any failing at bay and and so objectivity becomes a hard thing to cleave to. It's a chemical hypnosis that tames the tiger within and keeps peple fixated away from harsher realites. Yet this also produces guilt and people who need to smoke to asuage the guilt of being angry and upset will need to then need to smoke to assuage the guilt os smoking. People who can see their compulsive nature and not react to it defensively are often the ones who will go for a cigarette one day and it just wont look interesting anymore - then the spell is broken. An unfortuante thing about modern psychology is that it just doesn't see people as people anymore but as machines. The magic of awareness just doesn't count for much. The ancients knew human beings had two natures - a lower and higher one. When people fall from their center and their innocence its like a conductor falling into an orchestra and they get entangled in the impulses of their lower nature. A craving for a smoke is an animal nature crying out for more of what created it. That's why when people give up smoking they can get addicted to other things like food or even gambling that had no "substance"
After NASA's new directore Michael Griffin recently called the space shuttle and space station "mistakes" I would bet that this story was cultered-up to soften his comments. From http://www.wftv.com/news/5032927/detail.html KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, Fla. -- There were stunning comments made Wednesday by NASA's new leader: Michael Griffin believes the space shuttle and the international space station programs were mistakes. Now, Space Coast workers are firing back. People at Kennedy Space Center were generally shocked to read what Griffin said. NASA's administrator has said before he believed the shuttle was flawed, but 14 people gave their lives to the shuttle program and other people who devoted their lives said Griffin went too far. "I saw that this morning and immediately spilled coffee all over myself," said Charles Mars. Mars spent years working on the planning and development of the space shuttle and the space station and when he read NASA's administrator called the programs a mistake, he took it personally. "You know, I get angry. I can't believe I was working on a mistake. Two mistakes, shuttle and the space station. No, not a mistake," Mars said.
I frequent some large forums and Firefox chokes-up like a baby on hot sauce. It's been the worst of four browsers I use and is more heat than light. It reminds me of one of those old MG sports cars - a great toy when it was working but prone to breakdowns.
Firefox chokes-up like a baby on hot sauce. It has some great features and advantages but it still seems more heat than light to me.