"According to Cullinane, none of the Linux operators whose machines had been compromised were even aware they'd been infected"
Must be a slow day at Computerworld. Like, how do they equate Linux with an increase in phishing. How did eBay discover all these rooted Linux boxes? Who gathered the data, how was it gathered? Why would phishers use rooted Linux boxes when that would draw attention to themselves, why not hire a box in a server farm or why not just hack eBay.
"So now people deserve special honour because they played in Star Trek"
A lot of people were inspired to take up science because of StarTrek. In fact StarTrek was one of the first TV series where you had an 'African American' (Nichelle Nichols) playing a character with some authority.
She was going to leave after the first season but a meeting with Martin Luther King changed her mind. Admittedly she only worked the telephone exchange and had to sit at the back of the Bridge..:)
"Well its rather self-serving that an IBM employee would rip apart the Novell/Microsoft deal"
Isn't it curious that the entire SCO/Microsoft legal team hasn't been able to come up with any evidence for this. But you carry on not commenting on the article and engage in a dishonest and personal attack - TROLL !!
"Laika died of a heart attack early in the mission (not too surprising!)"
There was no mention at the time of Laika dying in orbit, indeed the impression given was thet he safely returned to earth. Later on they mentioned him dying during reentry or euthanized by injection in orbit, or died of fright just after take-off, later on in a book written by one of the Russians who actually worked on the project there is mention of the mutt being electrocuted.
"One would hope that, 2,000 years from now, our descendants will all look back at Sputnik and see it as a great triumph of all mankind"
Actually, we won't have and descendants as in the reign of DubYA a system of orbiting laser platforms was constructed, which later on fried the whole planet due to the year 5000 software bug in MICROS~1.DOT.PerPETuity..
"On Nov. 3, they launched Sputnik 2, which weighed 1,118 pounds. It carried the world's first living payload, a mongrel dog named Laika, in its tiny pressurized cabin.. The dog died of the heat after a week, drawing protests from animal-lovers"
I recall reading somewhere that they fitted the dog with a cap containing electrodes and electrocuted it before reentry.
"Microsoft's marketing budget is larger than the marketing budgets of all its competitors combined. This is what made MS-DOS the instant success it was over the much better (at the time) CP-M. It's what made MS Windows more successful than the better Apple and unix (X-Windows) offerings"
Actually, at the time Micro-soft didn't have a marketing budget. In fact they didn't pay Seattle Computer Products until after they got paid by IBM for MS-DOS. What really made Microsoft the success it is, was the ability of third party's to clone the IBM PC without paying IBM a royalty. Because IBM didn't own DOS, MS was free to license it to these third party's.
'Payment if the initial fee described in Paragraph 2(c) above, and royalty's called for under this Agreement shall be due within 45 days of the date MS invoices their customer for the product'
'IBM recognizes thet MS will be licensing the MS Product Offering 1.1 to third parties'
"Microsoft has understood from the start the lesson that IBM (their initial funder) pioneered in the 1960s and 70s:"
Actually what Microsoft understood was that IBM, the PC company and the OEMs were just the delivery people. But never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
"If you have a big enough marketing budget, it doesn't matter whether you have a quality product"
No, if you have a restrictive locked-in license with the OEMs, then you don't have to have a 'quality product'
"Consider the piece of crap that were Windows ME and Windows 2000. They did just fine, despite the long list of quality problems reported in the tech media"
Well, if you can't go into a computer shop and buy anything but Windows on a PC, then of course it's GOING TO SELL!
No - demanding blood after compliance is the childish bit. It's better to win graciously than to be vengeful after you win
In what jurisdiction does that kind of Legal Argument hold sway? Monsoon Multimedia were repeatedly asked to comply, it was only after such willful non-compliance did the SFLC move on it.
"If that quote is correct then I suggest Daniel Ravicher is better off acting like a responsable adult"
I see, acting to assure compliance with the GPL is acting 'childish'. As to your erroneous claim that no-one would notice - I don't think so.
'Simply coming into compliance now is not sufficient to settle the matter, because that would mean anyone can violate the license until caught, because the only punishment would be to come into compliance'
"We have processes in place now where we build documented-threat models at design time.."
How about hiring someone who can count.. Good think this integrated innovated professional software product isn't written to the same standards as that amateur Linux rubbish made in some kids bedroom..
"Yes. Now look at the CVS logs from between forking the project from NetBSD and the first OpenBSD release, as I said. You will see hundreds of security fixes as a result of that first complete audit"
Could you do me the favor of finding them ?
What do the CVS logs from the same time period say of Windows ?
What correlation is there between CVS logs and number of actual breeches ?
"One of the things I talk about often is my mom, because she is 78 and she's found e-mail.. You have to educate consumers not to make mistakes like clicking on attachments from unknown sources and not following links and all of that"
No, all you have to do is build a Desktop System that can't be compromised by opening an e-mail attachment or clicking on a URL..
"more people are like, 'Microsoft got its act together, and others should follow their lead,' technologists say, 'OK, our job is done -- what next?'"
"What I explain to people is that this isn't actually a technology problem we are solving; it's a crime problem"
Self serving imaginary made up quotes and a nonsensical opinion expressed. Making it a twenty year felony crime for hacking Windows isn't going to make Windows any more secure...
"According to Symantec, 'Internet security is headed toward a major reversal in philosophy, where a 'white list' which allows only benevolent programs to run on a computer"
Well DOH, is this the best that the security 'innovators' have come up with in 2007. How about a module in embedded hardware that runs a checksum on every executable and disables it if it fails the pass. It would have an install mode and a run mode. Only executables that are installed can be run. The original DOS executable had a file for just such a purpose.
Incidentally Marcus J. Ranum said this a long time ago in a reference to Enumerating Badness, nice of Symantec to have caught up...
I don't know who writes your material, but it is top class all the same. What a shame someone has to spend their time torturing the language just to earn a crust..:)
"OOXML is ECMA standardized.. Yes, there are problems with the standard, but they are all minor"
'The goal of the Technical Committee is to produce a formal standard for office productivity applications within the Ecma International standards process which is fully compatible with the Office Open XML Formats '
"The OOXML XSDs are not proprietary. Microsoft has made them freely available.."
'Like the specification itself, the license contains a seIf-contradiction: it is a promise that is not, in practise, a promise'
"MSIE is "tied to the OS" for the same reasons that Konqueror is tied to KDE; it is a shared library reused by the Explorer shell to provide similar services. It's called modularity, and it's a good design. This was an inevitable result"
'modularity' must have a different meaning in your universe where in the modular MSIE can't be removed without breaking the OS. Konqueror can be totally removed from this Ubuntu or not even installed, without breaking the OS.
MSIE was first tied to the OS to kill NETSCAPE, remember to cut off their oxygen supply. There was no valid technical reason for doing so. That they later on buried part of it in the OS regardless of the security implications merely demonstrates the priorities at Redmond at the time.
"The European Court of First Instance upheld the ruling that Microsoft had abused its dominant market position" 'It did this by refusal to supply and authorize the use of interoperability information and tying of the Windows client PC operating system and Windows Media Player'
Open the file formats? Here, have some source code
The file formats are not open when they are owned by a single company, the source isn't open when it is tied to proprietary formats.
"How about we just use XML?"
Microsoft XML isn't open when it is tied to proprietary schemas and closed blobs.
"A free web browser couldn't compete because MSIE works out of the box"
Then why tie MSIE so tightly to the OS that it can't be removed, a decision that lead directly to the current spam/phising virus infestation - ACTIVEX...
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"According to Cullinane, none of the Linux operators whose machines had been compromised were even aware they'd been infected"
Must be a slow day at Computerworld. Like, how do they equate Linux with an increase in phishing. How did eBay discover all these rooted Linux boxes? Who gathered the data, how was it gathered? Why would phishers use rooted Linux boxes when that would draw attention to themselves, why not hire a box in a server farm or why not just hack eBay.
"To keep things organized please post all gay jokes under this posting. Thank you for your cooperation"
..
'He now joins the ranks of other famous sci-fi figures in space, such as 4659 Roddenberry, 68410 Nichols, Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov '
At least they didn't try and start their own religion
"So now people deserve special honour because they played in Star Trek"
.. :)
A lot of people were inspired to take up science because of StarTrek. In fact StarTrek was one of the first TV series where you had an 'African American' (Nichelle Nichols) playing a character with some authority.
She was going to leave after the first season but a meeting with Martin Luther King changed her mind. Admittedly she only worked the telephone exchange and had to sit at the back of the Bridge
Re:Don't mix entertainment with history
"I've heard rumours that smoking drives down the possibility of brain-related diseases (alzheimers(sp?), parkinsons)"
was: Re:Smoking?
"Well its rather self-serving that an IBM employee would rip apart the Novell/Microsoft deal"
Isn't it curious that the entire SCO/Microsoft legal team hasn't been able to come up with any evidence for this. But you carry on not commenting on the article and engage in a dishonest and personal attack - TROLL !!
was: Re:Self-serving
"Laika died of a heart attack early in the mission (not too surprising!)"
There was no mention at the time of Laika dying in orbit, indeed the impression given was thet he safely returned to earth. Later on they mentioned him dying during reentry or euthanized by injection in orbit, or died of fright just after take-off, later on in a book written by one of the Russians who actually worked on the project there is mention of the mutt being electrocuted.
"One would hope that, 2,000 years from now, our descendants will all look back at Sputnik and see it as a great triumph of all mankind"
..
Actually, we won't have and descendants as in the reign of DubYA a system of orbiting laser platforms was constructed, which later on fried the whole planet due to the year 5000 software bug in MICROS~1.DOT.PerPETuity
Re:Ha!
"On Nov. 3, they launched Sputnik 2, which weighed 1,118 pounds. It carried the world's first living payload, a mongrel dog named Laika, in its tiny pressurized cabin .. The dog died of the heat after a week, drawing protests from animal-lovers"
I recall reading somewhere that they fitted the dog with a cap containing electrodes and electrocuted it before reentry.
http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/circular.html
..
I still can't figure out how to use it
"Why not check it out for yourself. Since I just disabled 90% of windows with a few dozen registry keys,"
..
It isn't necessary to disable a few dozen registry keys under Linux, just login as standard user
H. G. Wells got it right in Tono-Bungay:
.. :)
..
Just kidding, nowadays in order to be marginalized, you would have to be accused of being some A-RAB terror'st
You are so right, right now we here in EnglandLand pay the Germans for our own water
was: Re:All businesses SEEK to become arrogant
How many of you slashdolts who swing off of linux's nuts have actually tried it?
.. :) What do you think about Linux MCE .. see also Linux MCE
Me for one, I use Ubuntu, I used to use OpenSUSE until I got banned from the OpenSUSE forum for talking about the GPL.
"Its WAY better than WinMe for sure. Is it worth upgrading to? Not really, but its hardly crapware"
Only compared to ME
was: Re:Used it?
"So I switched to Vista, the best OS the planet has ever seen"
..
Buy a Mac, why don't you
was: Vista AWESOME compared with CRAPPY Linux(Score:5, BS)
"Microsoft's marketing budget is larger than the marketing budgets of all its competitors combined. This is what made MS-DOS the instant success it was over the much better (at the time) CP-M. It's what made MS Windows more successful than the better Apple and unix (X-Windows) offerings"
Actually, at the time Micro-soft didn't have a marketing budget. In fact they didn't pay Seattle Computer Products until after they got paid by IBM for MS-DOS. What really made Microsoft the success it is, was the ability of third party's to clone the IBM PC without paying IBM a royalty. Because IBM didn't own DOS, MS was free to license it to these third party's.
'Payment if the initial fee described in Paragraph 2(c) above, and royalty's called for under this Agreement shall be due within 45 days of the date MS invoices their customer for the product'
'IBM recognizes thet MS will be licensing the MS Product Offering 1.1 to third parties'
"Microsoft has understood from the start the lesson that IBM (their initial funder) pioneered in the 1960s and 70s:"
Actually what Microsoft understood was that IBM, the PC company and the OEMs were just the delivery people. But never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
"If you have a big enough marketing budget, it doesn't matter whether you have a quality product"
No, if you have a restrictive locked-in license with the OEMs, then you don't have to have a 'quality product'
"Consider the piece of crap that were Windows ME and Windows 2000. They did just fine, despite the long list of quality problems reported in the tech media"
Well, if you can't go into a computer shop and buy anything but Windows on a PC, then of course it's GOING TO SELL!
Re:Maybe, maybe not (Score:4, MS.Revisionism)
"Windows is much more flexible than you give it credit for -- and all without having to re-compile a kernel"
..
Rest of BS ignored
was: Re:Microsoft is horrible because XP is still good?
"Stupid article. I use Vista, its fine, not perfect, but certainly better than XP"
Better in what way, as in not worse?. And if it is 'better' then why are people downgrading to XP
was: Re:stupid
No - demanding blood after compliance is the childish bit. It's better to win graciously than to be vengeful after you win
In what jurisdiction does that kind of Legal Argument hold sway? Monsoon Multimedia were repeatedly asked to comply, it was only after such willful non-compliance did the SFLC move on it.
"If that quote is correct then I suggest Daniel Ravicher is better off acting like a responsable adult"
.. :)
I see, acting to assure compliance with the GPL is acting 'childish'. As to your erroneous claim that no-one would notice - I don't think so.
' Simply coming into compliance now is not sufficient to settle the matter, because that would mean anyone can violate the license until caught, because the only punishment would be to come into compliance '
--
morning shift
was: Re:If that quote is correct
"We have processes in place now where we build documented-threat models at design time .."
.. Good think this integrated innovated professional software product isn't written to the same standards as that amateur Linux rubbish made in some kids bedroom ..
How about hiring someone who can count
"Yes. Now look at the CVS logs from between forking the project from NetBSD and the first OpenBSD release, as I said. You will see hundreds of security fixes as a result of that first complete audit"
Could you do me the favor of finding them ?
What do the CVS logs from the same time period say of Windows ?
What correlation is there between CVS logs and number of actual breeches ?
was: Re:MIcrosoft guy says MS's security is ok?
"Take a look at the CVS logs from the first year of the OpenBSD project"
"Only two remote holes in the default install, in more than 10 years!"
"One of the things I talk about often is my mom, because she is 78 and she's found e-mail .. You have to educate consumers not to make mistakes like clicking on attachments from unknown sources and not following links and all of that"
..
...
No, all you have to do is build a Desktop System that can't be compromised by opening an e-mail attachment or clicking on a URL
"more people are like, 'Microsoft got its act together, and others should follow their lead,' technologists say, 'OK, our job is done -- what next?'"
"What I explain to people is that this isn't actually a technology problem we are solving; it's a crime problem"
Self serving imaginary made up quotes and a nonsensical opinion expressed. Making it a twenty year felony crime for hacking Windows isn't going to make Windows any more secure
"According to Symantec, 'Internet security is headed toward a major reversal in philosophy, where a 'white list' which allows only benevolent programs to run on a computer"
...
Well DOH, is this the best that the security 'innovators' have come up with in 2007. How about a module in embedded hardware that runs a checksum on every executable and disables it if it fails the pass. It would have an install mode and a run mode. Only executables that are installed can be run. The original DOS executable had a file for just such a purpose.
Incidentally Marcus J. Ranum said this a long time ago in a reference to Enumerating Badness, nice of Symantec to have caught up
I don't know who writes your material, but it is top class all the same. What a shame someone has to spend their time torturing the language just to earn a crust .. :)
.. Yes, there are problems with the standard, but they are all minor"
.."
"OOXML is ECMA standardized
'The goal of the Technical Committee is to produce a formal standard for office productivity applications within the Ecma International standards process which is fully compatible with the Office Open XML Formats '
"The OOXML XSDs are not proprietary. Microsoft has made them freely available
'Like the specification itself, the license contains a seIf-contradiction: it is a promise that is not, in practise, a promise'
"MSIE is "tied to the OS" for the same reasons that Konqueror is tied to KDE; it is a shared library reused by the Explorer shell to provide similar services. It's called modularity, and it's a good design. This was an inevitable result"
'modularity' must have a different meaning in your universe where in the modular MSIE can't be removed without breaking the OS. Konqueror can be totally removed from this Ubuntu or not even installed, without breaking the OS.
MSIE was first tied to the OS to kill NETSCAPE, remember to cut off their oxygen supply. There was no valid technical reason for doing so. That they later on buried part of it in the OS regardless of the security implications merely demonstrates the priorities at Redmond at the time.
"The European Court of First Instance upheld the ruling that Microsoft had abused its dominant market position" 'It did this by refusal to supply and authorize the use of interoperability information and tying of the Windows client PC operating system and Windows Media Player'
...
Open the file formats? Here, have some source code
The file formats are not open when they are owned by a single company, the source isn't open when it is tied to proprietary formats.
"How about we just use XML?"
Microsoft XML isn't open when it is tied to proprietary schemas and closed blobs.
"A free web browser couldn't compete because MSIE works out of the box"
Then why tie MSIE so tightly to the OS that it can't be removed, a decision that lead directly to the current spam/phising virus infestation - ACTIVEX
was: Re:Quel surprise!