'the results could explain why President Bush demonstrated a single-minded commitment to the Iraq war and why some people perceived Sen. John F. Kerry... as a flip-flopper'
Bush's single-mindedness isn't the results of thinking in 'republican' mode but because he thinks what he is told to think. As for republicans and democrats having different brain processes this is quasi-science at it's worst. Perhaps the subjects acquired such traits after joining and reading the manifestos of the respective parties. Perhaps lots of closet liberals choose to join the republican party as they have internalised the media's aversion to all things non-republican. Perhaps the long hair liberals all smoke dope, that usually frees up inhibition.
ps: Did you know that on the campuses of the US the worst thing an undergraduate could call another is REPUBLICAN...:)
"The article is ridiculously light on details and seems to be an attempt at self-serving cross-promotion. There is no discussion of how they saved money or what those servers are actually doing"
'part of this open source initiative, we also chose a virtual machine called Xen, which allows us to put multiple machines on one physical server, to consolidate.. We also use Hyperic to monitor the health and happiness of the servers'
"Personally, I have quite a bit of experience operating, maintaining, and supporting both Linux and Microsoft servers. I have found that both work well for the vast majority of applications"
Given the cost of support contracts and the per cpu restrictions of the MS EULA, why would you spend your companies money on licenses. For an average corporation that's one fifth of their annual revenue.
Some more quotes from the light on details article:
"It costs us significantly more to support a Windows box than a Linux box"
"You put out an email to a user mailing list, and you may get a response from the developer. Try doing that with most commercial vendors. It's hard to get access to those people. In the open source world, it's relatively easy"
I can validate this from personal experience, I once got a reply from the lead developers of mpeg4ip, similarly I once received a personal reply from Linus Torvalds. Bill Hilf or billg have yet to reply to my emails..:)
was: This story has no credibility (Score:3, disengenous FUD)
"officials were investigating whether the caller was out of state and may have hacked into the store's security system"
"If they can access the Internet, they can get to anything"
"Anyone in the whole world could have access, if that's what really happened"
What kind of idiot would connect the security system to the Internet so that 'they' could get to anything. Didn't they put it on a private VPN or use a password even?
"The FBI was looking into whether the calls to the banks and stores were being placed from overseas"
I thought DCSNet was designed to provide instant access to such information. Provides absolutly no evidence of any such hacking. Sounds to me like a low level extortion plot apart from the mention of the (scary) Internet and hackers (even more scary). Since when do sophisticated thieves use Western Union and wire themselves $3,000 with a $150 service charge. Who paid the charge I wonder.
We get bomb threats here all the time, so don't take any notice...
'your divide by zero can easily crash the os.. again, NT was not the cause of the problem', dknj
"that caused the database to overflow and crash all LAN consoles and miniature remote terminal units.. The PCs and server run NT 4.0 over a high-speed, fiber-optic LAN"
"Information is compartmentalized that very few people have access to all the data. No single agent can just arbitrarily listen in on your calls or data"
Like, how do you know this, and it isn't a rogue agent we have to be worried about but a rogue head of government.
"I have tremendous faith and confidence in our professional law enforcement agencies. They really do take privacy seriously in order to maintain our trust. We may bitch about it a lot, but in reality they have more interesting people to watch than you or I"
I thought the original purpose of wiretaps was to monitor individuals allegedly engaged in illegal activity. Can we really trust they won't abuse such powers. You now have a state apparatus in place that the K.G.B could only dream of, but you carry on deluding yourself that you live in a free and democratic state. DCSNet isn't designed to monitor foreign terrorists but to spy on you, dummies !!
"The Yorktown's.. administrator entered zero.. That caused the database to overflow and crash all LAN consoles and miniature remote terminal units"
"If you understand computers, you know that a computer normally is immune to the character of the data it processes,"
"Your $2.95 calculator, for example, gives you a zero when you try to divide a number by zero, and does not stop executing the next set of instructions. It seems that the computers on the Yorktown were not designed to tolerate such a simple failure.. The PCs and server run NT 4.0 over a high-speed, fiber-optic LAN"
"You can build it, design it, and it will work great. The trouble begins when you want to add things to it, add some services and things like that. Because of the brittle nature of the platform, when you do that, other things break", Martin Taylor July 2005
"A number of studies by IDC and Gartner have proved our platform has a lower TCO than open source because there are no hidden costs."
'[Nick Barley] refuted allegations that MS security was lax, saying.. "We've spent a lot of time recently trying to educate the marketplace"', June 2004
"The study found that enterprises using Microsoft's.NET/Windows platform to build and support custom applications incur 25% to 28% less cost than those using J2EE/Linux platform during a four-year lifecycle", May 2004
"NT4 was a nice operating system for SCADA applications. It was built in a time where Microsoft cared about security"
NT security rating only applied to a stand-alone version on specific hardware and no network support.
'Because of Davis-Besse's widespread use of vulnerable Microsoft software, the worm jumped to the plant network and crashed the Safety Parameter Display System, keeping it offline for eight hours," Paller testified'
'Facilities maintenance decided to place a web cam on top of the building so anyone could "check the weather."'
Fair enough..
"I was able to access everything from heating/cooling, water, lighting and the factory waste handling system controls"
Good Grief..
"The system ran a very stripped down Linux kernel and only had a few applications but I was able to add or remove or edit files from any directory on the system. So basically, the webcam username/password was effectively root on the whole system"
Ah, its that communist, hobbyist, hacker tool of the Taliban and Lintards everywhere..
"apparently their setup was hard coded to only accept the one username and password for the whole system! At least that's what we were told at our meeting"
So, appariently, you could control heating/cooling, water, lighting and waste handling from a webcam applet, the entire plant only ran on a stripped down Linux kernel and no one could figure out how to add new users.
Also a webcams control applet resides in the camera itself, so to access 'everything' there would have to be another webserver somewhere, unless they were running the entire plant from the webcam on the roof. And also the username/password for the camera resides - in the self same camera. Why would you need the same username/password 'hard-coded' elsewhere. Please explain. Finally tell us the name of this plant and who supplied the equipment. You can tell us, we can keep a secret.
"For example we deal with ship control systems, which you may think are about as isolated as you can get"
Hopfully not this one... please pause the war while we coldboot the warship and a lot of boxes running mutually interlocking RPC calls can't be that isolated.
"Seven months later, another computer virus was widely suspected of preventing the detection of power loss at a plant providing electricity to parts of New York State", Forbes
"Seven months later, another computer virus was widely suspected by security researchers of leading to a power loss at a plant providing electricity to parts of New York State, despite the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's argument that no evidence of virus-involvement was found"
'On the day of the blackout, Blaster degraded the performance of several communications lines linking key data centers used by utility companies to manage the power grid, the sources confirmed'
5. No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups
The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons.
6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor
The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor.
For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.
"How do you "extinguish" open source? It isn't even possible. And the whole point of open source software is that you can extend it"
Release an 'open source' project that relies on a closed source component, make unsubstantiated IP claims against Open Source, engage in private cross-licensing and patent deals with the major Open Source companies, make vague litigation threats in the press..
open source windows..
"open source on the Windows platform is a huge opportunity for Microsoft"
yea, once you have moved your "open source" project to Windows, you then have to 'license' the
proprietary codecs from Redmond, not so open is it then. Of course Microsofts definition of "open" is different from everyone elses.
"AJAX Control Toolkit.. built on the Microsoft AJAX Library and ASP.NET"
"IronPython - a new implementation of the Python programming language on the.NET Framework"
Slashdot Mirror
Firefox 17.4 % browser market -- up 5.6 %
..
Internet Explorer 63.9 % - dropped 9.6 %
400,000,000 downloads
Re:slownewsday
Tell that George Bush to stop watching me on the television ..
'the results could explain why President Bush demonstrated a single-minded commitment to the Iraq war and why some people perceived Sen. John F. Kerry... as a flip-flopper'
... :)
Bush's single-mindedness isn't the results of thinking in 'republican' mode but because he thinks what he is told to think. As for republicans and democrats having different brain processes this is quasi-science at it's worst. Perhaps the subjects acquired such traits after joining and reading the manifestos of the respective parties. Perhaps lots of closet liberals choose to join the republican party as they have internalised the media's aversion to all things non-republican. Perhaps the long hair liberals all smoke dope, that usually frees up inhibition.
ps: Did you know that on the campuses of the US the worst thing an undergraduate could call another is REPUBLICAN
Police finally get mandatory keyloggers in Mumbai's Cyber Cafes decades after the local fraudsters have had the use of such utilities.
"Not even a fake "some_slashdot_user writes.."
...
yea, they have to be lying
Whenever a positive article about Open Source appears on slashdot, totally ignore the contents, trash the source and question their honesty .. :)
"The article is ridiculously light on details and seems to be an attempt at self-serving cross-promotion. There is no discussion of how they saved money or what those servers are actually doing"
.. We also use Hyperic to monitor the health and happiness of the servers'
.. :)
'part of this open source initiative, we also chose a virtual machine called Xen, which allows us to put multiple machines on one physical server, to consolidate
"Personally, I have quite a bit of experience operating, maintaining, and supporting both Linux and Microsoft servers. I have found that both work well for the vast majority of applications"
Given the cost of support contracts and the per cpu restrictions of the MS EULA, why would you spend your companies money on licenses. For an average corporation that's one fifth of their annual revenue.
Some more quotes from the light on details article:
"It costs us significantly more to support a Windows box than a Linux box"
"You put out an email to a user mailing list, and you may get a response from the developer. Try doing that with most commercial vendors. It's hard to get access to those people. In the open source world, it's relatively easy"
I can validate this from personal experience, I once got a reply from the lead developers of mpeg4ip, similarly I once received a personal reply from Linus Torvalds. Bill Hilf or billg have yet to reply to my emails
was: This story has no credibility (Score:3, disengenous FUD)
the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
"it's a recognised bug acknowledged by Microsoft as being due to old routers or DHCP servers which do not support the DHCP broadcast flag"
..
...
Trust Microsoft to make Microsoft DHCP incompatible with everyone elses
"Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers"
Rest of ad hominem ignored
was: Re:Nice going, twitter.
Disallow:
You should have seen the coverage of Stuttgart Airport, pretty dumb to leave them wide open ..
Cats Pets Donau City Strasse
You mean like this one ...
"officials were investigating whether the caller was out of state and may have hacked into the store's security system"
...
"If they can access the Internet, they can get to anything"
"Anyone in the whole world could have access, if that's what really happened"
What kind of idiot would connect the security system to the Internet so that 'they' could get to anything. Didn't they put it on a private VPN or use a password even?
"The FBI was looking into whether the calls to the banks and stores were being placed from overseas"
I thought DCSNet was designed to provide instant access to such information. Provides absolutly no evidence of any such hacking. Sounds to me like a low level extortion plot apart from the mention of the (scary) Internet and hackers (even more scary). Since when do sophisticated thieves use Western Union and wire themselves $3,000 with a $150 service charge. Who paid the charge I wonder.
We get bomb threats here all the time, so don't take any notice
"that caused the database to overflow and crash all LAN consoles and miniature remote terminal units
"Information is compartmentalized that very few people have access to all the data. No single agent can just arbitrarily listen in on your calls or data"
Like, how do you know this, and it isn't a rogue agent we have to be worried about but a rogue head of government.
"I have tremendous faith and confidence in our professional law enforcement agencies. They really do take privacy seriously in order to maintain our trust. We may bitch about it a lot, but in reality they have more interesting people to watch than you or I"
I thought the original purpose of wiretaps was to monitor individuals allegedly engaged in illegal activity. Can we really trust they won't abuse such powers. You now have a state apparatus in place that the K.G.B could only dream of, but you carry on deluding yourself that you live in a free and democratic state. DCSNet isn't designed to monitor foreign terrorists but to spy on you, dummies !!
was: Re:FBI is now Super-Competent?
"The Yorktown's .. administrator entered zero .. That caused the database to overflow and crash all LAN consoles and miniature remote terminal units "
.. The PCs and server run NT 4.0 over a high-speed, fiber-optic LAN"
"If you understand computers, you know that a computer normally is immune to the character of the data it processes,"
"Your $2.95 calculator, for example, gives you a zero when you try to divide a number by zero, and does not stop executing the next set of instructions. It seems that the computers on the Yorktown were not designed to tolerate such a simple failure
"You can build it, design it, and it will work great. The trouble begins when you want to add things to it, add some services and things like that. Because of the brittle nature of the platform, when you do that, other things break", Martin Taylor July 2005
.. "We've spent a lot of time recently trying to educate the marketplace"', June 2004
.NET/Windows platform to build and support custom applications incur 25% to 28% less cost than those using J2EE/Linux platform during a four-year lifecycle", May 2004
"A number of studies by IDC and Gartner have proved our platform has a lower TCO than open source because there are no hidden costs."
'[Nick Barley] refuted allegations that MS security was lax, saying
"The study found that enterprises using Microsoft's
"NT4 was a nice operating system for SCADA applications. It was built in a time where Microsoft cared about security"
NT security rating only applied to a stand-alone version on specific hardware and no network support.
'Because of Davis-Besse's widespread use of vulnerable Microsoft software, the worm jumped to the plant network and crashed the Safety Parameter Display System, keeping it offline for eight hours," Paller testified'
was: Re:NT4 On The Plant Floor
'Facilities maintenance decided to place a web cam on top of the building so anyone could "check the weather."'
..
"I was able to access everything from heating/cooling, water, lighting and the factory waste handling system controls"
..
..
Fair enough
Good Grief
"The system ran a very stripped down Linux kernel and only had a few applications but I was able to add or remove or edit files from any directory on the system. So basically, the webcam username/password was effectively root on the whole system"
Ah, its that communist, hobbyist, hacker tool of the Taliban and Lintards everywhere
"apparently their setup was hard coded to only accept the one username and password for the whole system! At least that's what we were told at our meeting"
So, appariently, you could control heating/cooling, water, lighting and waste handling from a webcam applet, the entire plant only ran on a stripped down Linux kernel and no one could figure out how to add new users.
Also a webcams control applet resides in the camera itself, so to access 'everything' there would have to be another webserver somewhere, unless they were running the entire plant from the webcam on the roof. And also the username/password for the camera resides - in the self same camera. Why would you need the same username/password 'hard-coded' elsewhere. Please explain. Finally tell us the name of this plant and who supplied the equipment. You can tell us, we can keep a secret.
was: Re:Large scale SCADA often uses the internet
"For example we deal with ship control systems, which you may think are about as isolated as you can get"
... please pause the war while we coldboot the warship and a lot of boxes running mutually interlocking RPC calls can't be that isolated.
Hopfully not this one
was: Re:My view..
"In January of 2003, SCADA system computers infected with the Slammer worm caused a blackout at the Davis-Besse power plant in Ohio", Forbes
'The Slammer worm penetrated a private computer network at Ohio's Davis-Besse nuclear power plant in January and disabled a safety monitoring system for nearly five hours '
"Seven months later, another computer virus was widely suspected of preventing the detection of power loss at a plant providing electricity to parts of New York State", Forbes
'TRANSCRIPTS of telephone conversations between utility operators prior to last month's power blackout in the US and Canada '
"Seven months later, another computer virus was widely suspected by security researchers of leading to a power loss at a plant providing electricity to parts of New York State, despite the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's argument that no evidence of virus-involvement was found"
'The task force responsible for investigating the cause of the Aug. 14 blackout that crippled most of the Northeast corridor of the U.S. and parts of Canada concluded that a software failure at FirstEnergy Corp. may have contributed significantly to the outage'
'On the day of the blackout, Blaster degraded the performance of several communications lines linking key data centers used by utility companies to manage the power grid, the sources confirmed'
A good article about Open Source Definition on Groklaw .. quote:
5. No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups
The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons.
6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor
The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor.
For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.
"How do you "extinguish" open source? It isn't even possible. And the whole point of open source software is that you can extend it"
..
Release an 'open source' project that relies on a closed source component, make unsubstantiated IP claims against Open Source, engage in private cross-licensing and patent deals with the major Open Source companies, make vague litigation threats in the press
was: Re:Regarding tags
open source windows ..
"open source on the Windows platform is a huge opportunity for Microsoft"
.. built on the Microsoft AJAX Library and ASP.NET"
.NET Framework"
...
yea, once you have moved your "open source" project to Windows, you then have to 'license' the proprietary codecs from Redmond, not so open is it then. Of course Microsofts definition of "open" is different from everyone elses.
"AJAX Control Toolkit
"IronPython - a new implementation of the Python programming language on the
'nuff said