At major events in Israel, they already use unmanned blimps to monitor it from a distance.
Then why don't we just use Ted Kennedy?
Because even though it's doubtful that he's seen it in years ( and I sure as shit ain't gonna vouch for it ) he still has a penis, hence isn't "unmanned". Well, that and the lighter than air thing.
No offense intended, but if you're associated with http://www.linuxlabs.com, please change that logo. It looks like a neon Tux-Goatse hybrid. Seriously.
Are you kidding? Anyone who has any real sense of how the computer landscape changed over the past decade knows that the optomists won big time. The vast majority of the internet is interoperable despite the best efforts of the pessimists.
In many ways you're right. The "best efforts" weren't by the pessimists in question though. The interoperability is due to the efforts of both the BSD folk and the GPL folk. It's largely MSand in part some of the big Unix vendors who were trying to eliminate interoperability.
The original motivation of the free software movement was not to make money. It was to make the tech world a better place. This has happened, and it happened mostly because of free software.
True as well. I should have been more specific about what I meant. It isn't "the BSD folk" in general for which that is true. Just those who put their work out with no requirement for anything in exchange and then are surprised when they get nothing for it.
Not really, the code Apple and others paid for is still at the core of those projects. Apologies if reality conflicts with your politics.
As is the code many people contributed as is the code many corporations contributed. It is nowhere near as simplistic as you're trying to make it sound. What this has to do with politics exists solely in your own mind.
If what you're saying made any sense, then anybody who ever worked on any BSD code would owe all of their work on it back to anybody who paid anything toward the development of any of it. This is complete nonsense. It is more similar to the GPL, but even that comparison isn't 100% accurate.
I've mentioned this in another post but be careful with words like "contributing". As California corporations and taxpayers companies like Apple and SCO paid for BSD's development. Apple have every moral and ethical right to use it.
They paid for ancient BSD development. However after the court cases were over, that went away. They have every *legal* right to use it. They have an ethical responsibility to contribute but this is in no way required. Morality is individual, so were you talking about a person it would be their choice as to what their morality is. As you're discussing corporations, they inherently and as required by law are entirely amoral.
This is certainly about as clear a demonstration as you can find of the difference between the BSD license and the GPL, but other than that, which wasn't explicitly in there, there really isn't anything to your post.
Is Theo justified in calling the people who used his code without giving anything back asshats? Absolutely. Can he force them to? Absolutely not.
That's the license he chose and he's well aware of the ramifications.
The thing to me that most sucks was that Stallman and the BSD folks basically made a bet on human nature. The optomists are losing badly.
I am afraid it isn't as easy as that, we use AIX, HP-UX and Sun which are all (which the exception recently of Sun) propriatory systems, large companies like this take time to allow transition, additionally the company mail is based on Domino, which means Lotus notes and windows. As soon as IBM releases lotus notes for windows and I manage to find a reason to put linux on a P595 partition I should be able to finally convince them to allow linux on the desktop.
OK, you got me there. It's been a while since I worked at a big company like that.
Of course, sneaking it in is a great way to test your security/network people. If they suck you get to use what you want. If they don't.......well.....you're fired.
Emboldened by their successful assault on the innocence of grade school children in the US through the guise of public education, the leftist smut merchants are now trowling their swill in a UN funded, worldwide pogrom with even more devastating negative consequences on world health.
The frightening thing is that it is possible that there are people who are deluded enough to believe this. The fundamental issue with world health in this context is the lack of available protection. What do you know the sickening evil that is the religious right too away all funding for programs that had a scrap of reality in them. "Abstinence only" programs help kill people. Condoms help save lives. That's reality.
I'm sure that it really had anything to do with American "leftists" that people from other cultures don't live according to your beliefs. That's the thing you really can't stand. If every single person in the world doesn't believe exactly as you do then since your faith is weak, you get upset. Try growing up!
Too bad that evil hypocrites like yourself would rather see people suffer and die in punishment for being human than act like a decent person who would know what a moral was if it bit them on the ass.
You're all too typical of this sickeningly evil breed.
One of many foolish assertions.
It's called a simple statement of fact backed up by 100% of the evidence
I am a Unix Sys Admin I only run linux and BSD in my home, they only time I ever use MS products is on my office desktop where I have no choice, and even there I have been trying to pursuade the powers that be to let me use linux.
Dude, if you're in a company that uses Unix, you're the admin, and they don't let you use linux (or whatever else you deem appropriate) on your desktop you need to get out of that place like last week.
No, their motive is to try to reduce the larger social problem of out of wedlock births
Were that even a sane statement, then they would be the number one single biggest supporters of birth control education and availability. What's that they're the ones doing everything in their power to prevent basic simple facts from being taught?
Save the idiotic hateful lies. Their agenda is to fuck people over for sin of having sex with no regard for how badly they fuck over the children as well.
These people are evil shitbags of the lowest degree who prey on the innocent and the ignorant.
And while conservatives may be more successful at the monogamy game than others,
Don't kid yourself, they're not. They're just tremendous hypocrites on that issue as well. That's why the divorce rates, teen pregnancy rates and the like are all far higher in their states.
Yep, pretty much what I did. I downloaded the trial version of their compiler in order to build gcc. I had to build tar first to extract the sources. 9 years later, same issue. Now *that's* a big WTF.
All leftest come to that, at least you're honest enough about it.
But as a group we're better armed and better shots.
So come and get it motherfucker. Stop hiding.
All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. Who's gunfu do you think is stronger?
I'm not a leftist you idiotic asswipe. I'm a patriot. Fighting against tyrrany and treason is not the defining characteristic of a leftist.
It's a simple question of self defense. Your kind is seeking to destroy freedom, liberty and the constitution. People like me have had enough and are willing and able to defend ourselves.
The extremist hyperbole of the left is really starting to piss me off.
The cowardice, ignorance, and downright treason of the right is actually pissing off decent human beings though. You have just demonstrated that you do not fit into that category.
Shitbag appeasers and apologists like yourself who can't string together a 2 paragrah defense of torture without flat out lying and demonstrating their total ignorance of the situation are a stain upon America's honor that won't be wiped away for a century. You're living in a delusional fantasy world, coward.
Look, coward, it was your type of cowardice that said Oh let's just give Hitler Bavaria and he'll go away. Sorry, Sparky, but people who can actually use their brains *learned* from that situation. When faced with a group who is determined to totally destroy your way of life you need to stand up and be a man, not spout a bunch of idiotic lies to defend the aggressors. That is what you are doing right now.
What a bootlicking lilly livered coward you have *proven* yourself to be with that nonsense you just spouted. Grow up and grow a pair you piece of shit.
You are exactly the type of person who proves the truth of my sig.
Windows runs on anything and always has all drivers on a single CD - it doesn't even need the 7 CDs of a typical bloated Linux system and Windows is far easier and quicker to install than this Linux cruft.
My latest system has a DFI LanParty SLI-DR Expert motherboard. It has 2 gigabit ethernet adapters built in. Windows only supports one of them. Linux supports both. It has 2 different SATA RAID chipsets. Windows supports only the SATA1 it fails to support the SATA2. Linux supports both.
All of it was supported off of the single Gentoo boot CD with no issues and no effort on my part.
Sure, this is one single specific example, but since you made an absolute claim, you're wrong.
True, but given the freely downloadable, installable on multiple systems off one disk nature of Linux, I would think any other marketshare numbers are already low.
I'm a little disheartened with this attitude that, "As long as it looks like more people are using Linux, it's all good."
True again, or at least I agree with you;-). Based on the above though, it is possible that this is actually getting the numbers more in line with reality.
Then again, I suppose perception is reality...
And you're three for three! This is the one I'm most unhappy about personally, but such is life.
I'm not sure if this is what the OP was talking about, but on my dual core Opteron if I'm running a high CPU program, say Cedega when it gets crazy, top will report the process as using ~100% of the CPU but it will also report the system at 50% idle since it's using all of one core and none of the other.
Say I'm running something else as well, then if you add up all the process reported percentages in this situation it will add up to more than 100%
Why it works out like this is left as an exercise for somebody who knows more about this than I do.
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At major events in Israel, they already use unmanned blimps to monitor it from a distance.
Then why don't we just use Ted Kennedy?
Because even though it's doubtful that he's seen it in years ( and I sure as shit ain't gonna vouch for it ) he still has a penis, hence isn't "unmanned".
Well, that and the lighter than air thing.
No offense intended, but if you're associated with http://www.linuxlabs.com, please change that logo.
It looks like a neon Tux-Goatse hybrid. Seriously.
Are you kidding? Anyone who has any real sense of how the computer landscape changed over the past decade knows that the optomists won big time. The vast majority of the internet is interoperable despite the best efforts of the pessimists.
In many ways you're right. The "best efforts" weren't by the pessimists in question though. The interoperability is due to the efforts of both the BSD folk and the GPL folk. It's largely MSand in part some of the big Unix vendors who were trying to eliminate interoperability.
The original motivation of the free software movement was not to make money. It was to make the tech world a better place. This has happened, and it happened mostly because of free software.
True as well. I should have been more specific about what I meant. It isn't "the BSD folk" in general for which that is true. Just those who put their work out with no requirement for anything in exchange and then are surprised when they get nothing for it.
Not really, the code Apple and others paid for is still at the core of those projects. Apologies if reality conflicts with your politics.
As is the code many people contributed as is the code many corporations contributed. It is nowhere near as simplistic as you're trying to make it sound.
What this has to do with politics exists solely in your own mind.
If what you're saying made any sense, then anybody who ever worked on any BSD code would owe all of their work on it back to anybody who paid anything toward the development of any of it. This is complete nonsense. It is more similar to the GPL, but even that comparison isn't 100% accurate.
As California taxpayers they *paid for* BSD in the first place.
Look, you keep spouting that crap.
They paid for BSD.
That is different than FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, BSDOS, or any of the other things that forked off it long long ago.
I've mentioned this in another post but be careful with words like "contributing". As California corporations and taxpayers companies like Apple and SCO paid for BSD's development. Apple have every moral and ethical right to use it.
They paid for ancient BSD development. However after the court cases were over, that went away.
They have every *legal* right to use it.
They have an ethical responsibility to contribute but this is in no way required.
Morality is individual, so were you talking about a person it would be their choice as to what their morality is. As you're discussing corporations, they inherently and as required by law are entirely amoral.
This is certainly about as clear a demonstration as you can find of the difference between the BSD license and the GPL, but other than that, which wasn't explicitly in there, there really isn't anything to your post.
Is Theo justified in calling the people who used his code without giving anything back asshats? Absolutely.
Can he force them to? Absolutely not.
That's the license he chose and he's well aware of the ramifications.
The thing to me that most sucks was that Stallman and the BSD folks basically made a bet on human nature.
The optomists are losing badly.
It's the same here in New Zealand, only our chicks are much hotter.
;-)
They're cooler after you shear them
Seriously, submit this one. We'll see how good his sense of humor is ;-)
I am afraid it isn't as easy as that, we use AIX, HP-UX and Sun which are all (which the exception recently of Sun) propriatory systems, large companies like this take time to allow transition, additionally the company mail is based on Domino, which means Lotus notes and windows. As soon as IBM releases lotus notes for windows and I manage to find a reason to put linux on a P595 partition I should be able to finally convince them to allow linux on the desktop.
;-)
OK, you got me there. It's been a while since I worked at a big company like that.
Of course, sneaking it in is a great way to test your security/network people. If they suck you get to use what you want. If they don't.......well.....you're fired.
Maybe you have the right idea
Emboldened by their successful assault on the innocence of grade school children in the US through the guise of public education, the leftist smut merchants are now trowling their swill in a UN funded, worldwide pogrom with even more devastating negative consequences on world health.
The frightening thing is that it is possible that there are people who are deluded enough to believe this.
The fundamental issue with world health in this context is the lack of available protection.
What do you know the sickening evil that is the religious right too away all funding for programs that had a scrap of reality in them. "Abstinence only" programs help kill people. Condoms help save lives. That's reality.
I'm sure that it really had anything to do with American "leftists" that people from other cultures don't live according to your beliefs. That's the thing you really can't stand. If every single person in the world doesn't believe exactly as you do then since your faith is weak, you get upset. Try growing up!
Too bad that evil hypocrites like yourself would rather see people suffer and die in punishment for being human than act like a decent person who would know what a moral was if it bit them on the ass.
You're all too typical of this sickeningly evil breed.
One of many foolish assertions.
It's called a simple statement of fact backed up by 100% of the evidence
I am a Unix Sys Admin I only run linux and BSD in my home, they only time I ever use MS products is on my office desktop where I have no choice, and even there I have been trying to pursuade the powers that be to let me use linux.
Dude, if you're in a company that uses Unix, you're the admin, and they don't let you use linux (or whatever else you deem appropriate) on your desktop you need to get out of that place like last week.
No, their motive is to try to reduce the larger social problem of out of wedlock births
Were that even a sane statement, then they would be the number one single biggest supporters of birth control education and availability. What's that they're the ones doing everything in their power to prevent basic simple facts from being taught?
Save the idiotic hateful lies.
Their agenda is to fuck people over for sin of having sex with no regard for how badly they fuck over the children as well.
These people are evil shitbags of the lowest degree who prey on the innocent and the ignorant.
And while conservatives may be more successful at the monogamy game than others,
Don't kid yourself, they're not. They're just tremendous hypocrites on that issue as well.
That's why the divorce rates, teen pregnancy rates and the like are all far higher in their states.
Yep, pretty much what I did. I downloaded the trial version of their compiler in order to build gcc. I had to build tar first to extract the sources. 9 years later, same issue. Now *that's* a big WTF.
like seeing Sun's tar horribly fuck up extracting GCC (cuz dood, you gotta build GCC on Solaris) because of directory depth issues.
Still?!?!?
I ran into this problem building gcc on Solaris in like 97.
Well folks, time to gear up.
;-)
We know what happens when the Germans and the Japanese collaborate
All leftest come to that, at least you're honest enough about it.
But as a group we're better armed and better shots.
So come and get it motherfucker. Stop hiding.
All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. Who's gunfu do you think is stronger?
I'm not a leftist you idiotic asswipe. I'm a patriot.
Fighting against tyrrany and treason is not the defining characteristic of a leftist.
It's a simple question of self defense. Your kind is seeking to destroy freedom, liberty and the constitution. People like me have had enough and are willing and able to defend ourselves.
WTF is this world coming to? Our children turn evil this quick now?
That's the society you get when you put profit above everything. It's not coming, it's been here for quite a while now.
If somebody tried to conquer the US, I'd be out there building IEDs, and I'd bet you would be, too.
No he wouldn't. He'd be licking the boots of the aggressors just like he is now.
The extremist hyperbole of the left is really starting to piss me off.
The cowardice, ignorance, and downright treason of the right is actually pissing off decent human beings though. You have just demonstrated that you do not fit into that category.
Shitbag appeasers and apologists like yourself who can't string together a 2 paragrah defense of torture without flat out lying and demonstrating their total ignorance of the situation are a stain upon America's honor that won't be wiped away for a century. You're living in a delusional fantasy world, coward.
Look, coward, it was your type of cowardice that said Oh let's just give Hitler Bavaria and he'll go away.
Sorry, Sparky, but people who can actually use their brains *learned* from that situation. When faced with a group who is determined to totally destroy your way of life you need to stand up and be a man, not spout a bunch of idiotic lies to defend the aggressors. That is what you are doing right now.
What a bootlicking lilly livered coward you have *proven* yourself to be with that nonsense you just spouted.
Grow up and grow a pair you piece of shit.
You are exactly the type of person who proves the truth of my sig.
I think I'll check out the Glasgow branch tomorrow.
;-)
Next time I'm in the UK, I'll check out the Darby branch
Heh a stupid joke where only the British will know why they're groaning when they read it.
Windows runs on anything and always has all drivers on a single CD - it doesn't even need the 7 CDs of a typical bloated Linux system and Windows is far easier and quicker to install than this Linux cruft.
My latest system has a DFI LanParty SLI-DR Expert motherboard.
It has 2 gigabit ethernet adapters built in. Windows only supports one of them. Linux supports both.
It has 2 different SATA RAID chipsets. Windows supports only the SATA1 it fails to support the SATA2. Linux supports both.
All of it was supported off of the single Gentoo boot CD with no issues and no effort on my part.
Sure, this is one single specific example, but since you made an absolute claim, you're wrong.
But it's false marketshare.
;-). Based on the above though, it is possible that this is actually getting the numbers more in line with reality.
True, but given the freely downloadable, installable on multiple systems off one disk nature of Linux, I would think any other marketshare numbers are already low.
I'm a little disheartened with this attitude that, "As long as it looks like more people are using Linux, it's all good."
True again, or at least I agree with you
Then again, I suppose perception is reality...
And you're three for three!
This is the one I'm most unhappy about personally, but such is life.
Of course, being the typical /. geek, you're referring to the huge screen, not the girls, right? :)
;-)
The bigger the screen, the more girls you can fit on it
I'm not sure if this is what the OP was talking about, but on my dual core Opteron if I'm running a high CPU program, say Cedega when it gets crazy, top will report the process as using ~100% of the CPU but it will also report the system at 50% idle since it's using all of one core and none of the other.
Say I'm running something else as well, then if you add up all the process reported percentages in this situation it will add up to more than 100%
Why it works out like this is left as an exercise for somebody who knows more about this than I do.