If you're that concerned, throw out the TV. Just because you are too fucking ignorant of a parent to realise that you do have that power does not mean that you can call in big brother to fuck everything up for the rest of us. People like you need to die slowly and painfully.
I don't mind if it looks like R2D2, as long as it thinks like Captain Kirk.
Let me see if I have this straight. You are proposing that we conquer the universe by designing robots that will fuck anything they see? What the hell, let's give it a shot.
t I for one am glad I got *some* kind of notice. I'm used to sites being down for a few hours, and THEN coming back up with a "hey we went down for maintenance, etc etc" message.
Oh, You got a maintenance message?!? In my day, we'd reload and reload (Yeah, you try that on an ox cart) and we'd consider ourselves lucky to get a 404.
In those cases, paying for a subscription gets a discount per issue rather than a markup.
Who pays for subscriptions?
Also with subscriptions you can claim a readership of so much with numbers to back that up.
Ahh.. That explains how I have free subscriptions to like 10 different magazines. They need to boost their subscriber numbers, so they give them away free. You just have to keep your eyes open.
Re:Incomplete statement... (Score:1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 27, @09:58AM (#9543802)/. : the only place where zealots are considered insightful.
I haven't seen F9/11 yet, so I can't really comment on it, it was really just talking about his past record. It may be that given the criticism he has had in the past he has made this film more watertight (i.e. the double checking you mentioned).
Except that the past criticisms have been mostly (maybe all) refuted. The republican attack machine laid into it full force as they do anything which strays an inch away from their delusional hate-mongering creed and he refuted their accusations.
They (slashdot) are just like the New York Times. They cherry-pick the most extreme left wing media to review. Then they ignore anything else that comes out with a counter point (Dick Morris' Re-writing history, Michael Savages "The Enemy Within", Mel Gibsons "The Passion", etc).
Dude, you are totally nuts.
I'm sorry, but the shit you mention isn't "counter point" it is baseless lying attacks on a huge percentage of the American populaton designed to prevent useful discourse and polarize the people further. The enemy within. Yes, Liberals are terrorist sympathising traitors. That's a real good point. Never mind that it's Bush who is friends with the terrorists that attacked us.
The Passion? Well, I have no idea what your point was there.
when it comes down to something as important as our Country, our president, and the future, the propoganda is swallowed up by the hungry mob.
Yes, the propaganda machine of Fox news, Rush, Hannity and the rest of those lying vitriolic hate-mongering slimebags is fine. Speak against the republican hate machine and you're a bad person.
More interesting is the moment where Bush is shown frozen on his chair at the infant school in Florida, looking stunned and useless for seven whole minutes after the news of the second plane on 9/11. Many are those who say that he should have leaped from his stool, adopted a Russell Crowe stance, and gone to work.
The thing about this that Michael Moore mentioned but didn't even really dig into is that that was the second plane. The first plane struck while he was on the way to the photo op. Had he done his job at this point *NONE OF THE OTHER PLANES WOULD HAVE HIT THEIR TARGETS*
At that point, it was known that the planes were off course and not responding. If you believe that it is even possible that ATC didn't know this and didn't have policies in place then you know nothing about how the system works.
The president is the only person with the authority to order an airliner shot down. He intentionally took himself out of the loop by continuing on to a second grade classroom. Whether or not he had foreknowledge is irrelevant. That was gross derelection of duty and showed beyond question that he is completely incapable of doing his job. The fact is that he shouldn't have leapt up from his seat in that classroom because he never should have made it there in the first place. When the country is under attack, the job of the president is to lead. He refused to do this. Whether due to malice or incompetence is irrelevant.
He should have been impeached and quite possibly imprisoned for that inaction alone, let alone his blatantly criminal actions later.
certainly it's no shock that the Bush family would want to continue positive relations with wealthy Saudi elite.
Exactly. The point is that "The Saudi Elite" is a brutal dictatorial regime who actively promote blind hatred of Americans. You can't always choose who you have to deal with in politics, but you damn well can choose who you do business with and who your friends are. Bush and his family chose to be friends with the *same fucking people who attacked us*
That is the issue with the Saudis and the bin Ladens. That is why there is a serious fucking problem with the president of the US hanging out with terrorists and then covering up for them by lying to the American people and attacking a country which was totally uninvolved with the attacks.
At least the Washington Times has to have some journalistic responsibility, as opposed to say, Moore.
Where the fuck did you pull this idiotic assertion from? Freedom of the press means just that. They are free to print anything they damn well please with no regard for facts. The sole exception I'm aware of is libel. Hell, they can even print the identity of covert CIA operatives once the current treasonous administration leaks the identity.
Yes, you just meant to show how far criticism can go in the press. You've yet to show one single inaccuracy in the movie (not that there aren't any). Give your ignorant hatred a rest.
Well, the guy did say his one purpose with the movie was to unseat George W. Bush. How much more evidence do you need?
Given Bush's actions in office, that is evidence of Moore's patriotism.
If you check Moore's website, you will see where he refutes the baseless attacks in your first link.
Then links to the Washington Post and the Washington Times. Both of those are pure propaganda rags. I really trust Rupert Murdoch and a psychopathic, criminal cult leader.
Why is it nonsense? It is a unique take on a banking environment and is very different from anything else out there. At first glance, it does seem silly, but upon closer examination, it appears apt.
Well, I work in a bank (Credit Union) that has toys, coffee and kiosks. I'm much less impressed with this than you are.
Um. That's not fair use. That's plain copyright violation. Fair use says you can listen to the music you bought, in any way you choose. You can rip it to your HD, you can make backups.
Well, they are trying to take away our fair use rights, so pushing back farther seems fair enough to me. If they try to take an inch and they lose a foot, how is that in any way a bad thing? Maybe they will learn not to do it again ever.
Fat chance, but what the OP suggested wasn't an action it was a reaction and one that seems perfectly reasonable given the provocation.
No, when you paid your admission to get into the theater, you lost your right to complain about them showing ads.
No, if you got in free ala TV that would be true. Since you paid for the performance, the ads are extremely offensive and disgusitng. My eyes are being sold to advertisers with zero benefit for me. The prices for movies have continued to go up at a rate far higher than inflation while at the same time thay only recently started showing ads.
Here's a list of names - you can decide for yourself if the penalties they faced or face are REAL enough to suit you:
There is a huge difference between Club Fed and a real prison. Plus the people you refer to kept a shitload of the money they stole making it well worth their while. So, no, that is nowhere near real enough when people who sell flowers from certain plants do hard time in real prisons.
There are plenty of US laws based on futurecrime. Just look at, say, drug law. You are charged with a crime because you may commit a crime under the influence in the future.
What does that have to do with drug laws?
Drug laws are there because those drugs can't be patented and big pharma can make a tidy profit off of pimping their drugs.
I have never heard a single rational argument in favor of drug laws. Take any argument I've ever heard given and it is an argument that only applies when drugs are illegal, so the laws are what created the problem. It is in no way incidental that this has fueled a huge growth in our prison industry. Due to these disgusting fascist laws, we have more people in prison (per capita *and* raw numbers) than any other country in the world. Free country my ass.
If you're that concerned, throw out the TV.
Just because you are too fucking ignorant of a parent to realise that you do have that power does not mean that you can call in big brother to fuck everything up for the rest of us.
People like you need to die slowly and painfully.
I don't mind if it looks like R2D2, as long as it thinks like Captain Kirk.
Let me see if I have this straight.
You are proposing that we conquer the universe by designing robots that will fuck anything they see?
What the hell, let's give it a shot.
I would be happy to bet that I could count on my fingers the number of people here that have BOUGHT a piece of software that runs on linux.
I bought HOMM3 from Loki and Crossover.
Does that count as one or two fingers?
t I for one am glad I got *some* kind of notice. I'm used to sites being down for a few hours, and THEN coming back up with a "hey we went down for maintenance, etc etc" message.
Oh, You got a maintenance message?!? In my day, we'd reload and reload (Yeah, you try that on an ox cart) and we'd consider ourselves lucky to get a 404.
Bah, kids today.
The beauty of this site.
A Super Computer Researcher busted Lecithin for even freakin noticing that maintenance is going on.
Call me a geek, but I think this place is pretty cool
Darby
Heh no security update for you?
Heh, I'm not running windows
In those cases, paying for a subscription gets a discount per issue rather than a markup.
Who pays for subscriptions?
Also with subscriptions you can claim a readership of so much with numbers to back that up.
Ahh.. That explains how I have free subscriptions to like 10 different magazines. They need to boost their subscriber numbers, so they give them away free.
You just have to keep your eyes open.
More important, I wonder how many more times it will change its name before then.
Heck, mine changes every time I start it up. (Posted from Mozilla WaterKoala 0.9.1)
Reformat it...
Then install NetBSD on it.
OK, now 5 points to somebody who can come up with a question that this isn't an answer to (even if not the best answer).
Re:Incomplete statement... (Score:1, Insightful) /. : the only place where zealots are considered insightful.
;-)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 27, @09:58AM (#9543802)
Wow, you must be a zealot
I haven't seen F9/11 yet, so I can't really comment on it, it was really just talking about his past record. It may be that given the criticism he has had in the past he has made this film more watertight (i.e. the double checking you mentioned).
Except that the past criticisms have been mostly (maybe all) refuted.
The republican attack machine laid into it full force as they do anything which strays an inch away from their delusional hate-mongering creed and he refuted their accusations.
They (slashdot) are just like the New York Times. They cherry-pick the most extreme left wing media to review. Then they ignore anything else that comes out with a counter point (Dick Morris' Re-writing history, Michael Savages "The Enemy Within", Mel Gibsons "The Passion", etc).
Dude, you are totally nuts.
I'm sorry, but the shit you mention isn't "counter point" it is baseless lying attacks on a huge percentage of the American populaton designed to prevent useful discourse and polarize the people further.
The enemy within. Yes, Liberals are terrorist sympathising traitors. That's a real good point. Never mind that it's Bush who is friends with the terrorists that attacked us.
The Passion? Well, I have no idea what your point was there.
If you think Fox News is any less truthful than the other news networks, you are sadly mistaken.
If you think Fox news is anytrhing but a mouthpiece for the NeoCon aganda, then you are dumber than a bag of rocks.
The rest of the news is slanted far to the right, but Fox is all the way over to the extreme fringe.
when it comes down to something as important as our Country, our president, and the future, the propoganda is swallowed up by the hungry mob.
Yes, the propaganda machine of Fox news, Rush, Hannity and the rest of those lying vitriolic hate-mongering slimebags is fine. Speak against the republican hate machine and you're a bad person.
Nice.
Ignorant fool.
More interesting is the moment where Bush is shown frozen on his chair at the infant school in Florida, looking stunned and useless for seven whole minutes after the news of the second plane on 9/11. Many are those who say that he should have leaped from his stool, adopted a Russell Crowe stance, and gone to work.
The thing about this that Michael Moore mentioned but didn't even really dig into is that that was the second plane.
The first plane struck while he was on the way to the photo op. Had he done his job at this point *NONE OF THE OTHER PLANES WOULD HAVE HIT THEIR TARGETS*
At that point, it was known that the planes were off course and not responding. If you believe that it is even possible that ATC didn't know this and didn't have policies in place then you know nothing about how the system works.
The president is the only person with the authority to order an airliner shot down. He intentionally took himself out of the loop by continuing on to a second grade classroom. Whether or not he had foreknowledge is irrelevant. That was gross derelection of duty and showed beyond question that he is completely incapable of doing his job. The fact is that he shouldn't have leapt up from his seat in that classroom because he never should have made it there in the first place.
When the country is under attack, the job of the president is to lead. He refused to do this. Whether due to malice or incompetence is irrelevant.
He should have been impeached and quite possibly imprisoned for that inaction alone, let alone his blatantly criminal actions later.
certainly it's no shock that the Bush family would want to continue positive relations with wealthy Saudi elite.
Exactly.
The point is that "The Saudi Elite" is a brutal dictatorial regime who actively promote blind hatred of Americans. You can't always choose who you have to deal with in politics, but you damn well can choose who you do business with and who your friends are.
Bush and his family chose to be friends with the *same fucking people who attacked us*
That is the issue with the Saudis and the bin Ladens. That is why there is a serious fucking problem with the president of the US hanging out with terrorists and then covering up for them by lying to the American people and attacking a country which was totally uninvolved with the attacks.
At least the Washington Times has to have some journalistic responsibility, as opposed to say, Moore.
Where the fuck did you pull this idiotic assertion from?
Freedom of the press means just that. They are free to print anything they damn well please with no regard for facts. The sole exception I'm aware of is libel. Hell, they can even print the identity of covert CIA operatives once the current treasonous administration leaks the identity.
Yes, you just meant to show how far criticism can go in the press. You've yet to show one single inaccuracy in the movie (not that there aren't any). Give your ignorant hatred a rest.
Well, the guy did say his one purpose with the movie was to unseat George W. Bush. How much more evidence do you need?
Given Bush's actions in office, that is evidence of Moore's patriotism.
If you check Moore's website, you will see where he refutes the baseless attacks in your first link.
Then links to the Washington Post and the Washington Times. Both of those are pure propaganda rags. I really trust Rupert Murdoch and a psychopathic, criminal cult leader.
Nice try, but no.. it was a pathetic try. Sorry.
Why is it nonsense? It is a unique take on a banking environment and is very different from anything else out there. At first glance, it does seem silly, but upon closer examination, it appears apt.
Well, I work in a bank (Credit Union) that has toys, coffee and kiosks.
I'm much less impressed with this than you are.
Um. That's not fair use. That's plain copyright violation. Fair use says you can listen to the music you bought, in any way you choose. You can rip it to your HD, you can make backups.
Well, they are trying to take away our fair use rights, so pushing back farther seems fair enough to me. If they try to take an inch and they lose a foot, how is that in any way a bad thing?
Maybe they will learn not to do it again ever.
Fat chance, but what the OP suggested wasn't an action it was a reaction and one that seems perfectly reasonable given the provocation.
How is this not so?
Farenheit 9/11? Got any links to a .torrent of good telecine/telesync of it? :p
The funny thing is that the creator probably wouldn't give a shit. He made his money back on the opening day.
No, when you paid your admission to get into the theater, you lost your right to complain about them showing ads.
No, if you got in free ala TV that would be true.
Since you paid for the performance, the ads are extremely offensive and disgusitng. My eyes are being sold to advertisers with zero benefit for me. The prices for movies have continued to go up at a rate far higher than inflation while at the same time thay only recently started showing ads.
Here's a list of names - you can decide for yourself if the penalties they faced or face are REAL enough to suit you:
There is a huge difference between Club Fed and a real prison.
Plus the people you refer to kept a shitload of the money they stole making it well worth their while. So, no, that is nowhere near real enough when people who sell flowers from certain plants do hard time in real prisons.
There are plenty of US laws based on futurecrime. Just look at, say, drug law. You are charged with a crime because you may commit a crime under the influence in the future.
What does that have to do with drug laws?
Drug laws are there because those drugs can't be patented and big pharma can make a tidy profit off of pimping their drugs.
I have never heard a single rational argument in favor of drug laws. Take any argument I've ever heard given and it is an argument that only applies when drugs are illegal, so the laws are what created the problem. It is in no way incidental that this has fueled a huge growth in our prison industry. Due to these disgusting fascist laws, we have more people in prison (per capita *and* raw numbers) than any other country in the world. Free country my ass.
I guess the Senate still hasn't grasped the idea that prosecuting victimless crimes isn't effective and just wastes money.
They have it completely figured out.
It does waste money, but it is completely effective at giving your money to their friends.