Clinton was smarmy but not outright dishonest, and Bush was honest but incompetent.
Bush, honest? That's one thing we know with 100% certainty that he was not. Damn near everything he said in his entire administration was a lie from WMDs to the idea that America is a Christian nation or that he even knew what ethics or morals are.
You totally lost any credibility you might have had with that idiotic lie. All of you Repugnicunts are so far out on the lunatic fringe that you have no grip on reality whatsoever. Truly amazing that you would even try to pawn off a lie that fucking stupid and obvious, but then you morons are the fucking birthers after all. No amount of sanity can penetrate your deep seated delusion.
Pathetic and disgusting each and every one of you god damned anti American traitors.
. Carbon credits will become the new, ultra-regressive tax-- eliminating all the small and medium businesses (you know, the ones that employ most Americans) in the favor of mega-corps like GE/NBC who are in the pocket of the Feds.
Look, shit for brains, you don't get to suck Bush's cock throughout his administrations as you did and then now whine like a lying little birther about legislation favoring mega corps at the expense of the America people. That's the entirety of the Republican position. You are an avid supporter of exactly that so please shut your lying piehole. Your cowardly deceit is as obvious as it is disgusting. Take some responsibility for yourself you fucking worm.
You are getting exactly what you wanted, exactly what you asked for and exactly what you have attacked the sane people for arguing against. You fucking lunatics have well and truly lost it, and like always you try and blame everyone else in the world for shit you did. What a fucking worthless piece of shit you're proving yourself to be.
That's actually how they work. The same exact model is being used in Berkeley, CA. And they work well.
I grew up in Berkeley, so I know that area. I live in Chicago now. You've never lived in Chicago, obviously....
Don't try and project what is allowed in Berkeley, a city known primarily for the high levels of civic activism and patriotism of its residents (generally referred to with purely negative terms in the media) with the apathetic acceptance of levels of corruption that would fry your gourd which are the norm in Chicago.
People have a right to be pissed. Local governments put great effort and cost into taking their money, but didn't give fairness or convenience a second thought.
Now now...They gave those things a lot of thought. All of it directed at how to eliminate it. It's important to be precise when discussing these things.
That's actually the difference that makes these things Capital crimes on the part of a government officials rather than merely "dumbness" which would only require their termination from that employment rather than from this plane of existence as they've so richly earned.
Why Chicagoans haven't burned City Hall to the ground is beyond me.
I bought a lot of superglue and I use it all the time on those machines, but then I've always been patriotic. This is a problem which is simple to fix as opposed to Daley's lifetime Mayoral appointment.
Are you working to burn City Hall to the ground? How many parking meters have you destroyed?
Remember, it is your civic duty to disable as many as you can in order to prevent those shitbags from making any profit. Then when they meet up to vote on expanded legislation to enforce the profits for that criminal transaction, *then* you burn down City Hall...after barricading all of those motherfuckers inside.
Damn, Dude, didn't your parents ever teach you a god damned thing about responsibility?
Yes, but it's not as *simple* as it's made out to be (usually in tax protest and drug legalization circles, and almost never in any other context.)
I don't think you actually understand the concept. It is exactly as simple as it is in every case to which it applies. All it takes is one Juror (in the case where a unanimous verdict is required) to decide to vote his conscience instead of voting based on whether or not the law strictly applied to the particular case.
All you have to do is vote "not guilty" when the evidence and a strict adherence to the judge's instructions demands a verdict of guilty and you have actively engaged in jury nullification. It is that simple.
Talking about "jury nullification" without even hearing the specifics of a given case is exactly the kind of prejudice that will cause a mistrial.
Talking about jury nullification at all as a juror or even indicating that you have heard of the concept will cause an immediate mistrial or at least get you tossed off the jury immediately.
And if you think the laws that allow a self-defense defense to a homicide are subject to jury nullification in some simple way, you haven't studied the subject very seriously.
Any law that is involved in a case *that makes it to a jury* is subject to jury nullification. It has nothing to do with the specifics of the law, and it certainly isn't relevant in anything which hasn't reached a jury, so your objections are completely specious.
Being a juror doesn't give you the magical ability to reinterpret the law
Actually it does much more than that. It allows you to decide whether or not the law is any good and whether you should let the person go regardless of whether or not you're convinced they broke the letter of the law, because you disagree with the law.
It's known as jury nullification and is the single most important reason we even have trial by jury.
That said, apart from that mistake, I don't disagree with your position.
History has already demonstrated that without some type of police force, you rarely have order in societies as large as ours. But that's okay. Stick to your position that all police and military are bad.
I don't have an issue with that, since that isn't my position. My position is not that "some type" of police force is bad, it's that ours is. That's your black and white thinking again. You can only see the extremes and project that onto me.
No rule of law, no order, nothing.
Again, that's your position. I respect the rule of law, but understand that I do not, currently in America, live in a society to which that applies.
A large number of our most highly enforced laws have no basis, justification, or potential positive effects. This causes real actual harm to real actual people. Millions of them. Toss in selective enforcement add in various criminal drug and terrorist related laws and we have the current situation: A complete mockery of the rule of law.
The answer is not zero police, it's better trained, better paid, better watched police. You won't get there with your attitude.
No, it's better laws and far fewer police. Until that time, then as far as the bad laws are damaging our society, those who enforce them are damaging our society. I fail to see how an ethical person could accept such a role in life. The amount of criminal cops bears this out.
You like to say it's propaganda a lot don't you? It has that nice two-punch to it. First it makes it seem like the other person can't think for himself, and that the information comes from untrusted-unbiased sources.
An apt description of your position.
Far from it. Supporting the lives of citizens who put their lives on the line in the service of their community and country is not following propaganda.
Way to miss the point. Intentional?
Claiming that they are serving the community is the bullshit propaganda you're spouting. Were that the case, then they would be worthy of support. It's the fact that they aren't serving our communities, they are destroying them that makes them so unforgivable. Drug laws are the overwhelming cause of violent crime.
All police, all military, are so evil that you can't even calm down for a moment to realize that *conceptually* we must protect these people.
No, conceptually, we need to completely alter their respective roles. Currently they both serve *primarily* as tools of corporate aggression. The military against other countries the police against Americans.
Make the military a tool of defense, and revamp the laws so a decent human could enforce them and you'll be on to something. Leaving things as are and then claiming that the people destroying our nation are serving it is just insane. It can't help, and it aides those doing the damage. It's lose lose all around.
Sure, the DEA is arguably harmful, but let's not talk about getting rid of them through a peaceful democratic process. Let's just hack into their databases and publish/sell all of their private details to get them killed.
The peaceful democratic process was purchased a long time ago. Were that a valid approach, you'd have a point. However, even if you pulled that off, how are you going to purge the police of everybody who enforced those laws while they were on the books? How do you propose to punish them for the damage they chose to cause our country?
You're lost. While fighting them, you have lost your own humanity. I pity you.
Don't bother, because it didn't happen. I'm the one on the side of those being tortured and murdered by the cops, you're on the side of the cops doing the torturing and murdering...even if it's just that you're so damned dumb you can't be bothered to pay enough attention to get how much that happens. America didn't become the #1 police state overnight, but we've had that record for some time now.
I'm glad that I can use reason and logic and not irrational hate-filled positions about how *ALL* police, military, and government are intrinsically bad.
I gave valid logical reasoning behind my assertions. You failed to refute them. That doesn't make me irrational, it makes you dishonest.
Well, I am not like you. I can calm down and realize there is a difference between oppression and some citizen actively putting somebody else in *real* danger.
That person put themself in danger and they regularly put other people in danger with no reasonable justification. I damn well want to know what the police are up to. Maybe you live in some small village somewhere, but let me tell you a little bit about how the real world works.
In Chicago where I live, they recently had to empty death row because there were *too many confirmed cases* of cops beating confessions out of people. Now, as you also seem to be blissfully unaware of, cops almost never get caught, so when you have that many confirmed cases you know that it's an epidemic. This type of thing happens all the time. Were those cops charged with attempted murder as they should have been as that is what they did? Of course not. Slaps on the wrists at best. Repeatedly. For torture and attempted murder.
That's the real world little kid.
Of course, that's okay with you... since those people deserve to die. Right?
It really does often come down to a case of us or them. I certainly didn't start the war, they did. They certainly don't have the right to do half the shit they do, there is no recourse to the law, so it really can be the only reasonable option.
That's fine. Just don't try to act like you support a reasoned position. You don't
Sure I do.
Fact: Drug laws are the primary cause of violent crime in the country. Fact: Without enforcement of bad laws, this problem wouldn't exist.
Therefore, people who enforce drug laws have made the decision to lock their fellow human beings in cages to be beaten and raped for years for a victimless "crime" of growing a plant.
In the first place nobody has the right to do that. There exists nothing that could ever grant a person such a right. That there are people who are so deeply disturbed as to think that they even have that right is scary enough, but that they'd go ahead and go through with an action so vile (words have meanings and that is an utterly vile action) puts them in a different class of human. You have no issues with the existence of prison, so you have no problem with drawing such distinctions, so don't even try to feign offense at that.
They actively chose to put themselves in a position to declare war on decent, harmless people minding their own business. Given that they have actively demonstrated the type of person that they are, I damn well have a right to protect myself and my family from people who so willingly aid and abet ( and quite often actively engage in) torture, kidnapping, rape and murder.
It's called taking responsibility for your actions, and your position demonstrates the rabid fight against that we see in this country every day quite clearly.
This ain't about the DEA. It is about protecting the lives of citizens who decide put their lives on the line in the service of their community and country.
No, it isn't. That is the very important point you're missing.
You are making a claim. It is unsubstantiated and does not stand up to critical examination.
When the laws are as bad as ours, you can't find decent people to enforce them since that does not serve our communities. It damages them. Likewise, when our military is not used for our defense but for corporate interests, you'll never find a patriot to sign up. This is where we are these days.
Feel free to attempt to argue against that, but you don't get to make such an extraordinary claim like that and run with it. Just because propaganda says something doesn't mean it's true.
Now you have something in common with Adolf Hitler. You just took a group of people and set them apart as a different species.
Wow, you don't actually know anything about logic or reasoning, do you? Hitler demonized the Jews based just on how they were born. That's ignorant bigotry and therefore bad.
I based my position on actual actions undertaken by specific people, intentionally and with malice aforethought in order to put millions of innocent people in prison, turn our cities into violent, dangerous places and cost us our rights and uncountable amounts of money.
The idea that you would have the audacity to try and pretend that those positions have anything in common is irrational. You're the one defending the fascists, don't forget, so that just makes your attempt all the more disgusting.
After reading your other post, I think you are a bigger danger to this country than the entire DEA. You sound like your ready to kill at a moment's notice, or at the very least, support the idea of violence to solve our problems.
Wow, you're so very funny in a tragic sense. The police have long been willing to murder innocent citizens and have long been at war with us. Your position is that because I recommend defending yourself that I'm the bad guy. Wow, I wish I was a thief robbing you. You'd refuse to defend yourself and attack anybody who suggested you might want to. I'm so glad I'm not like you.
You did not make any points worth considering at all.
Actually I did. Telling more lies isn't helping your position.
Your arguments sound just like theirs. No compromise, and anybody not with you is the enemy, the vilest of filth, the infidels, and therefore must die.
That's truly laughable given our respective positions. You think it's bad to allow the police to be monitored. Had you any sense or knowledge of history you would know that it is not possible to have a free society while allowing an untouchable police force. It can not possibly happen which is why it was so critical to make sure that what you want was specifically disallowed in the constitution itself. Damn, the founding fathers saw your dumb ass 200 years ago and specifically said "Fuck You" to you. I'd be so fucking ashamed if I were you.
It's not possible to compromise with people who think it is ok to kidnap a fellow citizen, lock them in a cage to be beaten and raped for years for growing a plant. Anybody who does such things is a dangerous animal. How could you possibly try and argue against that?
If you're suggesting that it's okay to follow around and stalk public officials when they are not on duty, then I really can't argue with that. I can only hope someone does the same to you someday.
I'm not a highly lethal public official in a position noted for its high level of corruption and violent crime. That really does make all the difference in the world. It's a real pity abut you black and white thinkers. You miss most of the world and fuck up everything for the decent folk.
They do this knowingly and willingly and they should be respected for the dangerous jobs they do.
Look, you sycophantic tool. Drug laws are entirely unconstitutional, have done nothing positive for our country and are overwhelmingly the cause of violent crime in our nation.
The people who are actively undermining our rights and turning our cities into violent war zones do not ever deserve any respect at all. They are a purely negative element with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. The fact that you actively support a violently criminal police state says all we need to know about you, Sparky.
They don't deserve respect, they deserve execution for what they've done to our fucking country.
Fuck drug cops. The number one way to reduce violent crime in this nation would be to shoot every one of those sick fucking monsters.
Just because you "pay" their salary does not give you the right to harass and endanger them. This is not the meaning of "transparency" in government.
Yes, but because I pay their salaries does not give them the right to harass and endanger me is a far, far, more true statement. Yet, regardless of not having those rights, they routinely do so and there is almost always no recourse to the law in these cases since cops back each other up for all manner of criminal activity.
You need to deal with reality. Reality is most cops are scum and citizens have little recourse.
Shit, this attitude of entitlement and ownership sounds like my last employer.
It sounds exactly like the scumbag cops you are defending.
Cops, like most people who served in the military, do so out of a need to support and defend this country. I took an oath to defend this country against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Bullshit. No drug cop can make that argument. Drug laws are the primary cause of violent crime. Any cop enforcing them has declared war on America and is subject to summary execution on sight from a moral and ethical perspective.
No soldier can make that claim either, not since Vietnam anyhow. Just as Nuremberg ended "I'm just a soldier following orders" as an excuse for war crimes, Vietnam signalled the end of the ability of people to claim that they join the military in order to support and defend this country as we know with 100% certainty that that isn't the purpose to which we put our military.
Maybe you want to leech off of my taxes, maybe you want to play with all the toys..maybe you just want to murder innocent people and get away with it. It could be any of those reasons. It couldn't possibly be for any good reason. That entire view was utterly destroyed long ago and nothing that's happened recently has done anything but prove that that is more true now than ever before.
Please stop making excuses for scumbag traitors.
No, cops are not allowed to beat people. And, when they do or cross the line, they ARE punished.
Oh god damn you are one stupid lying motherfucker. I have 100 cases I've been involved in or witness to proving you dead fucking wrong and not a one backing up your lies except when they are caught indisputably on tape. Cops beat innocent people *every fucking day* you ignorant twat.
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Clinton was smarmy but not outright dishonest, and Bush was honest but incompetent.
Bush, honest? That's one thing we know with 100% certainty that he was not. Damn near everything he said in his entire administration was a lie from WMDs to the idea that America is a Christian nation or that he even knew what ethics or morals are.
You totally lost any credibility you might have had with that idiotic lie.
All of you Repugnicunts are so far out on the lunatic fringe that you have no grip on reality whatsoever. Truly amazing that you would even try to pawn off a lie that fucking stupid and obvious, but then you morons are the fucking birthers after all. No amount of sanity can penetrate your deep seated delusion.
Pathetic and disgusting each and every one of you god damned anti American traitors.
. Carbon credits will become the new, ultra-regressive tax-- eliminating all the small and medium businesses (you know, the ones that employ most Americans) in the favor of mega-corps like GE/NBC who are in the pocket of the Feds.
Look, shit for brains, you don't get to suck Bush's cock throughout his administrations as you did and then now whine like a lying little birther about legislation favoring mega corps at the expense of the America people. That's the entirety of the Republican position. You are an avid supporter of exactly that so please shut your lying piehole. Your cowardly deceit is as obvious as it is disgusting. Take some responsibility for yourself you fucking worm.
You are getting exactly what you wanted, exactly what you asked for and exactly what you have attacked the sane people for arguing against. You fucking lunatics have well and truly lost it, and like always you try and blame everyone else in the world for shit you did. What a fucking worthless piece of shit you're proving yourself to be.
That's actually how they work. The same exact model is being used in Berkeley, CA. And they work well.
I grew up in Berkeley, so I know that area. I live in Chicago now. You've never lived in Chicago, obviously....
Don't try and project what is allowed in Berkeley, a city known primarily for the high levels of civic activism and patriotism of its residents (generally referred to with purely negative terms in the media) with the apathetic acceptance of levels of corruption that would fry your gourd which are the norm in Chicago.
Your experiences do not translate.
People have a right to be pissed. Local governments put great effort and cost into taking their money, but didn't give fairness or convenience a second thought.
Now now...They gave those things a lot of thought. All of it directed at how to eliminate it.
It's important to be precise when discussing these things.
That's actually the difference that makes these things Capital crimes on the part of a government officials rather than merely "dumbness" which would only require their termination from that employment rather than from this plane of existence as they've so richly earned.
Why Chicagoans haven't burned City Hall to the ground is beyond me.
I bought a lot of superglue and I use it all the time on those machines, but then I've always been patriotic. This is a problem which is simple to fix as opposed to Daley's lifetime Mayoral appointment.
Are you working to burn City Hall to the ground?
How many parking meters have you destroyed?
Remember, it is your civic duty to disable as many as you can in order to prevent those shitbags from making any profit. Then when they meet up to vote on expanded legislation to enforce the profits for that criminal transaction, *then* you burn down City Hall...after barricading all of those motherfuckers inside.
Damn, Dude, didn't your parents ever teach you a god damned thing about responsibility?
Yes, but it's not as *simple* as it's made out to be (usually in tax protest and drug legalization circles, and almost never in any other context.)
I don't think you actually understand the concept. It is exactly as simple as it is in every case to which it applies. All it takes is one Juror (in the case where a unanimous verdict is required) to decide to vote his conscience instead of voting based on whether or not the law strictly applied to the particular case.
All you have to do is vote "not guilty" when the evidence and a strict adherence to the judge's instructions demands a verdict of guilty and you have actively engaged in jury nullification. It is that simple.
So if my PC dies, I have to buy a PC, none of my PC games will work on a Mac running OSX.
Except, your PC doesn't die. Your CPU dies, or your MB dies, or your hard drive dies, or a stick of RAM dies or whatever. Night and day.
Are there not height requirements for any of the armed forces? I thought Airmen had to be a certain size, but I may be wrong.
Pilots have to be *below* a certain height or they break their knees if they have to eject....
I believe his primary function is a flight droid so they were built to interface with ships
I was always under the impression that the design goal behind him was to make a Swiss Army droid..all those attachments, gadgets, and gizmos man.
Talking about "jury nullification" without even hearing the specifics of a given case is exactly the kind of prejudice that will cause a mistrial.
Talking about jury nullification at all as a juror or even indicating that you have heard of the concept will cause an immediate mistrial or at least get you tossed off the jury immediately.
And if you think the laws that allow a self-defense defense to a homicide are subject to jury nullification in some simple way, you haven't studied the subject very seriously.
Any law that is involved in a case *that makes it to a jury* is subject to jury nullification. It has nothing to do with the specifics of the law, and it certainly isn't relevant in anything which hasn't reached a jury, so your objections are completely specious.
Being a juror doesn't give you the magical ability to reinterpret the law
Actually it does much more than that. It allows you to decide whether or not the law is any good and whether you should let the person go regardless of whether or not you're convinced they broke the letter of the law, because you disagree with the law.
It's known as jury nullification and is the single most important reason we even have trial by jury.
That said, apart from that mistake, I don't disagree with your position.
First of all, the company in question is Verizon, not Comcast
This should have been obvious. If it were comcast it would have been the tech who got his ass beaten ;-)
History has already demonstrated that without some type of police force, you rarely have order in societies as large as ours. But that's okay. Stick to your position that all police and military are bad.
I don't have an issue with that, since that isn't my position. My position is not that "some type" of police force is bad, it's that ours is.
That's your black and white thinking again. You can only see the extremes and project that onto me.
No rule of law, no order, nothing.
Again, that's your position. I respect the rule of law, but understand that I do not, currently in America, live in a society to which that applies.
A large number of our most highly enforced laws have no basis, justification, or potential positive effects. This causes real actual harm to real actual people. Millions of them. Toss in selective enforcement add in various criminal drug and terrorist related laws and we have the current situation:
A complete mockery of the rule of law.
The answer is not zero police, it's better trained, better paid, better watched police. You won't get there with your attitude.
No, it's better laws and far fewer police. Until that time, then as far as the bad laws are damaging our society, those who enforce them are damaging our society. I fail to see how an ethical person could accept such a role in life. The amount of criminal cops bears this out.
You like to say it's propaganda a lot don't you? It has that nice two-punch to it. First it makes it seem like the other person can't think for himself, and that the information comes from untrusted-unbiased sources.
An apt description of your position.
Far from it. Supporting the lives of citizens who put their lives on the line in the service of their community and country is not following propaganda.
Way to miss the point. Intentional?
Claiming that they are serving the community is the bullshit propaganda you're spouting. Were that the case, then they would be worthy of support. It's the fact that they aren't serving our communities, they are destroying them that makes them so unforgivable.
Drug laws are the overwhelming cause of violent crime.
All police, all military, are so evil that you can't even calm down for a moment to realize that *conceptually* we must protect these people.
No, conceptually, we need to completely alter their respective roles. Currently they both serve *primarily* as tools of corporate aggression. The military against other countries the police against Americans.
Make the military a tool of defense, and revamp the laws so a decent human could enforce them and you'll be on to something. Leaving things as are and then claiming that the people destroying our nation are serving it is just insane. It can't help, and it aides those doing the damage. It's lose lose all around.
Sure, the DEA is arguably harmful, but let's not talk about getting rid of them through a peaceful democratic process. Let's just hack into their databases and publish/sell all of their private details to get them killed.
The peaceful democratic process was purchased a long time ago. Were that a valid approach, you'd have a point. However, even if you pulled that off, how are you going to purge the police of everybody who enforced those laws while they were on the books? How do you propose to punish them for the damage they chose to cause our country?
You're lost. While fighting them, you have lost your own humanity. I pity you.
Don't bother, because it didn't happen. I'm the one on the side of those being tortured and murdered by the cops, you're on the side of the cops doing the torturing and murdering...even if it's just that you're so damned dumb you can't be bothered to pay enough attention to get how much that happens. America didn't become the #1 police state overnight, but we've had that record for some time now.
I'm glad that I can use reason and logic and not irrational hate-filled positions about how *ALL* police, military, and government are intrinsically bad.
I gave valid logical reasoning behind my assertions. You failed to refute them. That doesn't make me irrational, it makes you dishonest.
Well, I am not like you. I can calm down and realize there is a difference between oppression and some citizen actively putting somebody else in *real* danger.
That person put themself in danger and they regularly put other people in danger with no reasonable justification. I damn well want to know what the police are up to.
Maybe you live in some small village somewhere, but let me tell you a little bit about how the real world works.
In Chicago where I live, they recently had to empty death row because there were *too many confirmed cases* of cops beating confessions out of people. Now, as you also seem to be blissfully unaware of, cops almost never get caught, so when you have that many confirmed cases you know that it's an epidemic. This type of thing happens all the time.
Were those cops charged with attempted murder as they should have been as that is what they did? Of course not. Slaps on the wrists at best. Repeatedly. For torture and attempted murder.
That's the real world little kid.
Of course, that's okay with you... since those people deserve to die. Right?
It really does often come down to a case of us or them. I certainly didn't start the war, they did.
They certainly don't have the right to do half the shit they do, there is no recourse to the law, so it really can be the only reasonable option.
Pretending otherwise is naive.
That's fine. Just don't try to act like you support a reasoned position. You don't
Sure I do.
Fact: Drug laws are the primary cause of violent crime in the country.
Fact: Without enforcement of bad laws, this problem wouldn't exist.
Therefore, people who enforce drug laws have made the decision to lock their fellow human beings in cages to be beaten and raped for years for a victimless "crime" of growing a plant.
In the first place nobody has the right to do that. There exists nothing that could ever grant a person such a right.
That there are people who are so deeply disturbed as to think that they even have that right is scary enough, but that they'd go ahead and go through with an action so vile (words have meanings and that is an utterly vile action) puts them in a different class of human. You have no issues with the existence of prison, so you have no problem with drawing such distinctions, so don't even try to feign offense at that.
They actively chose to put themselves in a position to declare war on decent, harmless people minding their own business. Given that they have actively demonstrated the type of person that they are, I damn well have a right to protect myself and my family from people who so willingly aid and abet ( and quite often actively engage in) torture, kidnapping, rape and murder.
It's called taking responsibility for your actions, and your position demonstrates the rabid fight against that we see in this country every day quite clearly.
This ain't about the DEA. It is about protecting the lives of citizens who decide put their lives on the line in the service of their community and country.
No, it isn't. That is the very important point you're missing.
You are making a claim. It is unsubstantiated and does not stand up to critical examination.
When the laws are as bad as ours, you can't find decent people to enforce them since that does not serve our communities. It damages them.
Likewise, when our military is not used for our defense but for corporate interests, you'll never find a patriot to sign up.
This is where we are these days.
Feel free to attempt to argue against that, but you don't get to make such an extraordinary claim like that and run with it.
Just because propaganda says something doesn't mean it's true.
Now you have something in common with Adolf Hitler. You just took a group of people and set them apart as a different species.
Wow, you don't actually know anything about logic or reasoning, do you?
Hitler demonized the Jews based just on how they were born. That's ignorant bigotry and therefore bad.
I based my position on actual actions undertaken by specific people, intentionally and with malice aforethought in order to put millions of innocent people in prison, turn our cities into violent, dangerous places and cost us our rights and uncountable amounts of money.
The idea that you would have the audacity to try and pretend that those positions have anything in common is irrational. You're the one defending the fascists, don't forget, so that just makes your attempt all the more disgusting.
After reading your other post, I think you are a bigger danger to this country than the entire DEA. You sound like your ready to kill at a moment's notice, or at the very least, support the idea of violence to solve our problems.
Wow, you're so very funny in a tragic sense. The police have long been willing to murder innocent citizens and have long been at war with us. Your position is that because I recommend defending yourself that I'm the bad guy. Wow, I wish I was a thief robbing you. You'd refuse to defend yourself and attack anybody who suggested you might want to. I'm so glad I'm not like you.
You did not make any points worth considering at all.
Actually I did. Telling more lies isn't helping your position.
Your arguments sound just like theirs. No compromise, and anybody not with you is the enemy, the vilest of filth, the infidels, and therefore must die.
That's truly laughable given our respective positions. You think it's bad to allow the police to be monitored. Had you any sense or knowledge of history you would know that it is not possible to have a free society while allowing an untouchable police force.
It can not possibly happen which is why it was so critical to make sure that what you want was specifically disallowed in the constitution itself. Damn, the founding fathers saw your dumb ass 200 years ago and specifically said "Fuck You" to you. I'd be so fucking ashamed if I were you.
It's not possible to compromise with people who think it is ok to kidnap a fellow citizen, lock them in a cage to be beaten and raped for years for growing a plant. Anybody who does such things is a dangerous animal. How could you possibly try and argue against that?
If you're suggesting that it's okay to follow around and stalk public officials when they are not on duty, then I really can't argue with that. I can only hope someone does the same to you someday.
I'm not a highly lethal public official in a position noted for its high level of corruption and violent crime. That really does make all the difference in the world. It's a real pity abut you black and white thinkers. You miss most of the world and fuck up everything for the decent folk.
She is not monitoring the Drug Task Force to defend freedom.
I don't care at all what her reasons are. Her actions are what matter and her actions are indisputably positive and worthy of a good citizen.
Well, that and beating the shit out of them and THEN making them fight charges of "resisting arrest".
This happened to me. I've seen it happen to plenty of other people as well. This is a very real *daily* problem in almost any major city.
They do this knowingly and willingly and they should be respected for the dangerous jobs they do.
Look, you sycophantic tool.
Drug laws are entirely unconstitutional, have done nothing positive for our country and are overwhelmingly the cause of violent crime in our nation.
The people who are actively undermining our rights and turning our cities into violent war zones do not ever deserve any respect at all. They are a purely negative element with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. The fact that you actively support a violently criminal police state says all we need to know about you, Sparky.
They don't deserve respect, they deserve execution for what they've done to our fucking country.
Fuck drug cops. The number one way to reduce violent crime in this nation would be to shoot every one of those sick fucking monsters.
Just because you "pay" their salary does not give you the right to harass and endanger them. This is not the meaning of "transparency" in government.
Yes, but because I pay their salaries does not give them the right to harass and endanger me is a far, far, more true statement. Yet, regardless of not having those rights, they routinely do so and there is almost always no recourse to the law in these cases since cops back each other up for all manner of criminal activity.
You need to deal with reality. Reality is most cops are scum and citizens have little recourse.
Shit, this attitude of entitlement and ownership sounds like my last employer.
It sounds exactly like the scumbag cops you are defending.
Cops, like most people who served in the military, do so out of a need to support and defend this country. I took an oath to defend this country against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Bullshit. No drug cop can make that argument. Drug laws are the primary cause of violent crime. Any cop enforcing them has declared war on
America and is subject to summary execution on sight from a moral and ethical perspective.
No soldier can make that claim either, not since Vietnam anyhow. Just as Nuremberg ended "I'm just a soldier following orders" as an excuse for war crimes, Vietnam signalled the end of the ability of people to claim that they join the military in order to support and defend this country as we know with 100% certainty that that isn't the purpose to which we put our military.
Maybe you want to leech off of my taxes, maybe you want to play with all the toys..maybe you just want to murder innocent people and get away with it. It could be any of those reasons. It couldn't possibly be for any good reason. That entire view was utterly destroyed long ago and nothing that's happened recently has done anything but prove that that is more true now than ever before.
Please stop making excuses for scumbag traitors.
No, cops are not allowed to beat people. And, when they do or cross the line, they ARE punished.
Oh god damn you are one stupid lying motherfucker. I have 100 cases I've been involved in or witness to proving you dead fucking wrong and not a one backing up your lies except when they are caught indisputably on tape. Cops beat innocent people *every fucking day* you ignorant twat.