Yeah, I can see someone developing without ever need one. But sometime you just want to stick static variable or function to an object and that come handy.
But if you do something like this:
$o = new Object(); $c = $o->add($a,$b);
Well you instantiate the object to use a static function (considering that it is not working on the object, but just using parameter and returning a result).
Therefore doing
$c = Object::add($a, $b);
seem more logical in that scenario (or maybe use a stand-alone function).
There is probably well logical reason sometime to bind one static function to an object (beside just regrouping function at one place).
Skal Tura said: "WASP seems far from simple, let's take this example: Request::getParameter('Add') != null wtf? Why can't one do $_POST['Add'] != null? What format even is Something::Something ??"
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Well Something::Something is simply the syntax to access a static function of a class. It is simple.
It is not everyone who is "above the average" who give value to the same thing I guess.
Education you receive (school, parents, friends) will also influence you.
Some intellectual will talk of politics a lot (and think people that don't are not smart), some other very brilliant people won't talk about it and won't care all their life.
Some very smart people will become porn star, live their life playing sport, fawking, and not reading much "books" for example. That doesn't mean they aren't above the average, that doesn't mean they don't read slashdot.;-)
It is fun how your and you're is very different for me and I guess that might be because I am not a native speaker? And I also am someone who often spell wrong or adopt wrong spelling (intentionnally).
Maybe someone who speak, they sound the same (I'm really not an expert at english speaking!)? If so that might explain why people spell it wrong.
A lot of people were biching about how I spelt i in lower case at first... and back in time, it didn't matter to me... but for that particular one when I see 'i' spelled in lower case, it nows give me a weird feeling. Before having that feeling, I was writing it as I always thought... (capitalizing when it is the first word of the sentence, but no otherwise)... when I think of it... it is not a big deal. I am a hard-knock head, but for some reason, I adopted the capitalized I... however... if I write it in cap or not... it is really not that much harder to understand... except that maybe it will annoy the people that are used to the "proper" way.
Also the English we know is a standard... and it changes and there is even different version... (like a lot of thing in technology,:P)
And word that don't exist... (make anything and add *ness, e.g. sexyness, I don't even know if that exist or not, but just an example) -- they might come to exist one day.
I forgot to said something while I wrote and foolishly hit enter to put my comments forever on this world wide web -- maybe those comments will come hunt me one day! What is written stay.
Ok, here is what I wanted to say:
Saying that we talk about a topic, is not a reason to talk about grammar is not really a good point to protect it (mind you, in the post I just reply to, I said it is not the end of the world to spell bad and I bet this post is full of what you will judge as error).
It has its advantage to stay in one dimension. I will continue to explain with school for example.
If you are in a Math class, it is not an excuse to forget all you learn in any other class. It is not an excuse to say an English error is not an English error. It is still an error.
Of course it is hard to merge all dimension and be efficient everywhere (people tend to give more value to some dimension and then think they are the king-of-the-world, the elite of that dimension and they can just ditch the people not-good-enough... well someone else is better than you in something else and is weaker than you in what you are good. Of course some people are just generally better, that is life.)
However, I think it is a bad argument to say that anything don't count if we talk about a specific topic except that topics. English, Math, anything that is related. That is either to communicate the message, to express, etc. is somehow important.
But of course what CmdrTaco want to say, is that the message of the article is way more important than the way to communicate that article. That the text is green, black, or red, might have an influence on the audience... however in a little utopia, it is the essence of the message we will care (depending your value?).
If you say something joyful but an angry way... people will just interpret it as angry if it is not too obvious. That is just fun.
Say something very serious, that make no sense... people will nod their head saying yes, agreeing, etc. WAKE UP!
Well I don't know if in English they have such rule and I wasn't even aware of that case of is vs. are in the context of a company.
But... it is ONE COMPANY. it is ONE COLLECTION.
My first language is french.
And what is better in your opinion to learn english.... read a lot or speak a lot? I somehow believe speaking will help me improve a lot and that is my weakness (even if my spelling might sound bad here).
When I write comment on a message board, or even when I reply by email, I often do not review it much (even though I am a perfectionnist). I guess I type like I would talk (without think, eh I haven't said that?). It is like when I chat on IRC. Sometime I just go with the flow. Of course, there is a load of people complaining about the "bad grammar", other people who don't care and will just re-ask if they did not understand what I mean (and that I appreciate). People don't always understand what I say in my main language either and that isn't always because I cannot master the language to a good degree.
Also, even if I often go against people that complaint too much about grammatical errors... I understand that write it good can have a value. But people that complain also need to understand that some error are: typo, intentional error ("I liek milk", "teh", "fawk off") (even if you find intentional error wrong or stupid, sometime they have some smartness, some sens of humor (doh!)), etc.
We live in a crazy world where everything need to go fast... but sometime maybe we will go faster going slowler.
Maybe I could take more my time each time I put a comments anywhere. Improve my writting skills to encode the message in a simpler, smaller, etc. form. That will then save time, make my message pass thru better.
Ok I wrote enough, I will hit enter... I wrote so much I don't feel like re-reading my comments (pure laziness or I just feel hurried... that is sad -- however that is not a lack of disrespect.)
update: This might have happened with a conversion from mysql 3.23 to 4.1 (I see they are changing column's size automaticelly if you put utf-8... I remember having read that, but I did not expect such a behavior, hrmmm).
Funny thing is between my last post... I had a slow response on my localhost and I did stop mysql service (on windows). And something weird happened... the column's type changed (a char(1) to a char(0) and I doubt I did change that by error). It happened on a table that indeed was supposed to be written at.
Even thought the type changed from char(1) to char(0), the old data were still having one character inside. However... all the new data were empty string as the column specification changed.
Quite scary...
I am a perfectionnist, I try to slack off... but those kind of thing scare me when I see them in a software... Of course I did a NET STOP MySQL (service stop) on windows... but still... that could happen on our shared host server or is there something in mysql that could prevent this (i.e don't shutdown till the operation is finish?)
Lot of people like it and use it. It is not that bad. Lot of people use it with success. But can you give me a list of all the OSS databases you talk about that are better (or "good database")? Seems like there is a lot from your words (maybe there is), I'm just curious about your list.
I was not mainly concerned about the burner's ability to burn in the two format. Just that there is two format. There is probably one that is more used however. I don't know the difference between -R/+R or does that affect playability. I just never needed to know it...
I see... so if it was just a format everyone put their will together, without thinking of the revenue, then there will be more chance to have one.
It is a like a certificate you have to pay. And what if I don't want to put the DVD Logo just to save some buck? It will still be a DVD? hehe... goddamn...
Capitalist is good (competition, the best win, etc.), but sometime it sucks too. I guess anything has pro and con;-)
Oh and my 2 cents...
Too much format is bad. Sure openess, etc. is cool, blah blah... but having one true good format really has a big advantage, especially for mass and stuff for consumer. It is easier to have only one player, only have worry for one format that is good. Heck VHS is still not that bad (beside one of my friend that refuse to watch movie on VHS, kinda dumb IMHO;-))
I have not done any research nor will I know how to answer that question, but to encode it at the best format (?) what will be the capacity needed at first? When we answer that, then maybe it worth changing of format (or I guess later we will need something more, like all language on one media, etc. then maybe there it will worth having a new one, etc.).
At less, I don't think I will buy in if there is too much format.
It is like those DVD-R stuff that I never get into yet (I'm archaic now...) -- there was 2 format, now 2 format war again. They should work hard to settle on one format, even if that mean making an hybrid. Make one thing good for the mass.
Enough said.
If you kill someone in front of 1 person, 10 persons or 10000 persons. It mights have a different impact. You still have killed someone.
Of course we can ramble about this a long time: should we punish the act, the consequence of the act, the impact of the act, the thought of the act, etc.
I thought to kill someone
I killed someone intentionally
I killed someone by accident
I killed someone and it pissed off nobody
I killed someone and it pissed off the whole earth
etc.
Still, if someone insult someone else, that is it. He even did it anonymously, man, that guy should have named the other guy for what they wanted to do to him!:D
Often what is written has more impact somehow. Is it longterm impact or what, it doesn't matter, it has often more impact.
Just talk fast with someone (fast as in you say thing before thinking too much and what you say is just "wrong") and you may have more chance to take yourself back than if you have wrote something to that person in email, blog, etc.
When it is written, people read it once, twice, etc.
Well, I am a perfectionnist, then too I don't give perfect score. However, to answer your question, it doesn't always mean it will score a 10 always. Maybe we can say that review are time sensitive.
Of course if we interpret 10 like cannot improve, that is not good.
However, when I was searching for motherboard some years ago I stumbled across a site (I think it is motherboards.org). It was possible for a mobo to get 92 today, but in 3 months, they will score 82 with the same attribute. That is because their evaluation score was re-evaluated. i.e. 256kb cache mean +10, but 3 months lather it worth +5 and 512kb worth +10, etc.
The same for a game that score 9 on the NES or older console. The NES game (I am a major NES fan, in fact I don't yet play new console, not because I don't want... mostly because of time and the fact I just did not bought them! bleh) it mights score well, but still... if the same exact games was released today, of course it might score high for playability, etc. But the evaluation will probably not be as high as it was back then.
So maybe when the sequel is released, if the games is 100% the same (technically, gameplay, etc.) -- it mean not worth 10 on 10 for that game in 1 year, because he will compare it with what is available, possible, etc.
Of course it is subjective, for me I will evaluate a game for playability, etc. But for some people graphics advancement enhance way much the games (and it can do for gameplay too) -- and that is what they evaluate.
Well, if nothing go forward and they want just more control over InnoDB future, cannot anyone (or MySQL itself) do something called MyInnoDB. Not much of a name change and it will keep what is right about that database.
Can we even do a business with that in mind?
I am not knowledgeable at all in license stuff, however a lot of you check those license thing carefully so I am sure I will have a good answer!;-)
Interesting that is is volunteer, very good point and that might appeal people that will prefer to do something else, or try something new.
Also, I am not 100% agreeing that the major effect is in college, it really depend. But as in anything, the premise, the root influence a lot. And if you can teach well someone right at beginning, that is a big plus. It gives you a better potential for the future (including that the child has the talent and potential too).
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If you get the same amount of client, and sell the same price and get the same satisfaction (from your target audience), then it is not wrong at all to be greedy. That is how you make more money sometime. Except if in the long run those choice turn out to give you a bad reputation.
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Yeah, I can see someone developing without ever need one. But sometime you just want to stick static variable or function to an object and that come handy.
But if you do something like this:
$o = new Object();
$c = $o->add($a,$b);
Well you instantiate the object to use a static function (considering that it is not working on the object, but just using parameter and returning a result).
Therefore doing
$c = Object::add($a, $b);
seem more logical in that scenario (or maybe use a stand-alone function).
There is probably well logical reason sometime to bind one static function to an object (beside just regrouping function at one place).
Skal Tura said:
u dotayim.php
"WASP seems far from simple, let's take this example:
Request::getParameter('Add') != null
wtf? Why can't one do $_POST['Add'] != null?
What format even is Something::Something ??"
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Well Something::Something is simply the syntax to access a static function of a class. It is simple.
See http://www.php.net/manual/en/keyword.paamayim-nek
Either I misunderstood, but it is not like it is one of the most obscure thing in PHP to know that one.
There is nothing wrong for anything to be fun, enjoyable, etc. This post is more philosophical and not tighly coupled to PHP or RUBY or WHETEVAH.
It is not everyone who is "above the average" who give value to the same thing I guess.
;-)
Education you receive (school, parents, friends) will also influence you.
Some intellectual will talk of politics a lot (and think people that don't are not smart), some other very brilliant people won't talk about it and won't care all their life.
Some very smart people will become porn star, live their life playing sport, fawking, and not reading much "books" for example. That doesn't mean they aren't above the average, that doesn't mean they don't read slashdot.
It is fun how your and you're is very different for me and I guess that might be because I am not a native speaker? And I also am someone who often spell wrong or adopt wrong spelling (intentionnally).
:P)
Maybe someone who speak, they sound the same (I'm really not an expert at english speaking!)? If so that might explain why people spell it wrong.
A lot of people were biching about how I spelt i in lower case at first... and back in time, it didn't matter to me... but for that particular one when I see 'i' spelled in lower case, it nows give me a weird feeling. Before having that feeling, I was writing it as I always thought... (capitalizing when it is the first word of the sentence, but no otherwise)... when I think of it... it is not a big deal. I am a hard-knock head, but for some reason, I adopted the capitalized I... however... if I write it in cap or not... it is really not that much harder to understand... except that maybe it will annoy the people that are used to the "proper" way.
Also the English we know is a standard... and it changes and there is even different version... (like a lot of thing in technology,
And word that don't exist... (make anything and add *ness, e.g. sexyness, I don't even know if that exist or not, but just an example) -- they might come to exist one day.
I forgot to said something while I wrote and foolishly hit enter to put my comments forever on this world wide web -- maybe those comments will come hunt me one day! What is written stay.
Ok, here is what I wanted to say:
Saying that we talk about a topic, is not a reason to talk about grammar is not really a good point to protect it (mind you, in the post I just reply to, I said it is not the end of the world to spell bad and I bet this post is full of what you will judge as error).
It has its advantage to stay in one dimension. I will continue to explain with school for example.
If you are in a Math class, it is not an excuse to forget all you learn in any other class. It is not an excuse to say an English error is not an English error. It is still an error.
Of course it is hard to merge all dimension and be efficient everywhere (people tend to give more value to some dimension and then think they are the king-of-the-world, the elite of that dimension and they can just ditch the people not-good-enough... well someone else is better than you in something else and is weaker than you in what you are good. Of course some people are just generally better, that is life.)
However, I think it is a bad argument to say that anything don't count if we talk about a specific topic except that topics. English, Math, anything that is related. That is either to communicate the message, to express, etc. is somehow important.
But of course what CmdrTaco want to say, is that the message of the article is way more important than the way to communicate that article. That the text is green, black, or red, might have an influence on the audience... however in a little utopia, it is the essence of the message we will care (depending your value?).
If you say something joyful but an angry way... people will just interpret it as angry if it is not too obvious. That is just fun.
Say something very serious, that make no sense... people will nod their head saying yes, agreeing, etc. WAKE UP!
Well I don't know if in English they have such rule and I wasn't even aware of that case of is vs. are in the context of a company.
But... it is ONE COMPANY. it is ONE COLLECTION.
My first language is french.
And what is better in your opinion to learn english.... read a lot or speak a lot? I somehow believe speaking will help me improve a lot and that is my weakness (even if my spelling might sound bad here).
When I write comment on a message board, or even when I reply by email, I often do not review it much (even though I am a perfectionnist). I guess I type like I would talk (without think, eh I haven't said that?). It is like when I chat on IRC. Sometime I just go with the flow. Of course, there is a load of people complaining about the "bad grammar", other people who don't care and will just re-ask if they did not understand what I mean (and that I appreciate). People don't always understand what I say in my main language either and that isn't always because I cannot master the language to a good degree.
Also, even if I often go against people that complaint too much about grammatical errors... I understand that write it good can have a value. But people that complain also need to understand that some error are: typo, intentional error ("I liek milk", "teh", "fawk off") (even if you find intentional error wrong or stupid, sometime they have some smartness, some sens of humor (doh!)), etc.
We live in a crazy world where everything need to go fast... but sometime maybe we will go faster going slowler.
Maybe I could take more my time each time I put a comments anywhere. Improve my writting skills to encode the message in a simpler, smaller, etc. form. That will then save time, make my message pass thru better.
Ok I wrote enough, I will hit enter... I wrote so much I don't feel like re-reading my comments (pure laziness or I just feel hurried... that is sad -- however that is not a lack of disrespect.)
Indeed, because only smart thief don't end up in jail and they are not qualified for that?
update: This might have happened with a conversion from mysql 3.23 to 4.1 (I see they are changing column's size automaticelly if you put utf-8... I remember having read that, but I did not expect such a behavior, hrmmm).
And about that problem, it happened with a MyISAM table.
There is different kind of MySQL storage engine and I heard more problem with MyISAM but who know...
Funny thing is between my last post... I had a slow response on my localhost and I did stop mysql service (on windows). And something weird happened... the column's type changed (a char(1) to a char(0) and I doubt I did change that by error). It happened on a table that indeed was supposed to be written at. Even thought the type changed from char(1) to char(0), the old data were still having one character inside. However... all the new data were empty string as the column specification changed. Quite scary... I am a perfectionnist, I try to slack off... but those kind of thing scare me when I see them in a software... Of course I did a NET STOP MySQL (service stop) on windows... but still... that could happen on our shared host server or is there something in mysql that could prevent this (i.e don't shutdown till the operation is finish?)
Lot of people like it and use it. It is not that bad. Lot of people use it with success. But can you give me a list of all the OSS databases you talk about that are better (or "good database")? Seems like there is a lot from your words (maybe there is), I'm just curious about your list.
I was not mainly concerned about the burner's ability to burn in the two format. Just that there is two format. There is probably one that is more used however. I don't know the difference between -R/+R or does that affect playability. I just never needed to know it...
The rule is a pointer. Don't mess with the pointer.
I thought we weren't supposed to talk about the first rule! What is wrong with you? Wanna get in trouble?
I see... so if it was just a format everyone put their will together, without thinking of the revenue, then there will be more chance to have one.
;-)
It is a like a certificate you have to pay. And what if I don't want to put the DVD Logo just to save some buck? It will still be a DVD? hehe... goddamn...
Capitalist is good (competition, the best win, etc.), but sometime it sucks too. I guess anything has pro and con
Oh and my 2 cents... Too much format is bad. Sure openess, etc. is cool, blah blah... but having one true good format really has a big advantage, especially for mass and stuff for consumer. It is easier to have only one player, only have worry for one format that is good. Heck VHS is still not that bad (beside one of my friend that refuse to watch movie on VHS, kinda dumb IMHO ;-))
I have not done any research nor will I know how to answer that question, but to encode it at the best format (?) what will be the capacity needed at first? When we answer that, then maybe it worth changing of format (or I guess later we will need something more, like all language on one media, etc. then maybe there it will worth having a new one, etc.).
At less, I don't think I will buy in if there is too much format.
It is like those DVD-R stuff that I never get into yet (I'm archaic now...) -- there was 2 format, now 2 format war again. They should work hard to settle on one format, even if that mean making an hybrid. Make one thing good for the mass.
Enough said.
If you kill someone in front of 1 person, 10 persons or 10000 persons. It mights have a different impact. You still have killed someone. Of course we can ramble about this a long time: should we punish the act, the consequence of the act, the impact of the act, the thought of the act, etc. I thought to kill someone I killed someone intentionally I killed someone by accident I killed someone and it pissed off nobody I killed someone and it pissed off the whole earth etc. Still, if someone insult someone else, that is it. He even did it anonymously, man, that guy should have named the other guy for what they wanted to do to him! :D
Often what is written has more impact somehow. Is it longterm impact or what, it doesn't matter, it has often more impact.
Just talk fast with someone (fast as in you say thing before thinking too much and what you say is just "wrong") and you may have more chance to take yourself back than if you have wrote something to that person in email, blog, etc.
When it is written, people read it once, twice, etc.
MIVA stocks is gonna drop even more!
with the U-Force, didn't they?
Well, I am a perfectionnist, then too I don't give perfect score. However, to answer your question, it doesn't always mean it will score a 10 always. Maybe we can say that review are time sensitive.
Of course if we interpret 10 like cannot improve, that is not good.
However, when I was searching for motherboard some years ago I stumbled across a site (I think it is motherboards.org). It was possible for a mobo to get 92 today, but in 3 months, they will score 82 with the same attribute. That is because their evaluation score was re-evaluated. i.e. 256kb cache mean +10, but 3 months lather it worth +5 and 512kb worth +10, etc.
The same for a game that score 9 on the NES or older console. The NES game (I am a major NES fan, in fact I don't yet play new console, not because I don't want... mostly because of time and the fact I just did not bought them! bleh) it mights score well, but still... if the same exact games was released today, of course it might score high for playability, etc. But the evaluation will probably not be as high as it was back then.
So maybe when the sequel is released, if the games is 100% the same (technically, gameplay, etc.) -- it mean not worth 10 on 10 for that game in 1 year, because he will compare it with what is available, possible, etc.
Of course it is subjective, for me I will evaluate a game for playability, etc. But for some people graphics advancement enhance way much the games (and it can do for gameplay too) -- and that is what they evaluate.
Well, if nothing go forward and they want just more control over InnoDB future, cannot anyone (or MySQL itself) do something called MyInnoDB. Not much of a name change and it will keep what is right about that database. Can we even do a business with that in mind? I am not knowledgeable at all in license stuff, however a lot of you check those license thing carefully so I am sure I will have a good answer! ;-)
Interesting that is is volunteer, very good point and that might appeal people that will prefer to do something else, or try something new. Also, I am not 100% agreeing that the major effect is in college, it really depend. But as in anything, the premise, the root influence a lot. And if you can teach well someone right at beginning, that is a big plus. It gives you a better potential for the future (including that the child has the talent and potential too).
If you get the same amount of client, and sell the same price and get the same satisfaction (from your target audience), then it is not wrong at all to be greedy. That is how you make more money sometime. Except if in the long run those choice turn out to give you a bad reputation.