I was at the meeting (I live in Sebastopol) and I was going to speak up and mention exactly this. However, given that there was just 1 other (non Sonic.net CEO) speaker in favor and something like 15 public commenters against, and because I don't really have any interest in downtown wifi at this point I didn't bother to speak. It was apparent that no matter what facts and science was offered, the anti-wifi people had made up their minds. Dane (sonic.net CEO) brought up the 12,000 watts of FM transmitter just 7 miles away vs. the 0.1 watts of wifi. Nothing was going to penetrate their beliefs. And of course they believed they had "science" on their side as well.
Mostly, the meeting was a very depressing experience for me.
The point of the Berkeley program is to come up with toolsets so you don't have to "juggle 1000 cores in your head". Instead, you describe, using the toolset, the problem in a way which is decomposable, and the tools spread the work over the 1000+ cores. No more worrying if you incremented that semaphore correctly because you're operating at a much higher level.
I can understand the appeal of the social aspect of going to church, but I see no questions answered by religion. I do see the reinforcement of wish thinking, but no "answers".
I think it is more of the human ability to interpret vagueness into anything. The genesis description of the origin of the universe lends itself to analogy, which he uses in that paper. Now his physics may be accurate in that the Universe may extend much further than the matter we can detect, and that may explain the velocity anomaly. But to extend that to say that a very vague story from 3000 years ago is a true an accurate description of the universe's origins and that therefore the bible is literally true is just fantasy.
I've never been a believer. Recently, after reading The Selfish Gene and seeing just how much real evidence there is for evolution and seeing that science really _is_ an accurate and true explanation for how we came to be on the earth. It really does explain away any "need" for any sort of "personal god" as an alternate explanation. So, to give equal time to "the other side", I tried to read the bible. I got thru Genesis, but realized that there really is "nothing there" as far as explanatory power. And certainly to try to extract morals from the old testament would be a mistake. So then I got "Skeptics Answered" and again, there really isn't anything to the arguments of the believers.
While I'm interested in why people believe, and how we can change that going forward, I've really lost interest in _what_ they believe. It really holds no value as near as I can tell.
I'd agree with the stipulation that society as a whole, not just scientists need to work toward making society more effective decision makers....
The trouble is, there are so many in many positions of power (clergy, politicians, marketeers) who benefit (at least in the micro) from people being ineffective decision makers.
Yeah, it's disheartening, but like the fact that when we die we cease to exist, it's reality, so the best thing to do as a scientist is to deal with it as reality, not ignore it and engage in wish-thinking.
There's lots of debates online about this, witness the disagreements between PZ Myers ( http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/ ) and Matt Nisbet ( http://scienceblogs.com/framing-science/ ) about how best to "sell" science to the public. They both have good points, but I'm not sure either one has much science/data backing up their opinions. For some of it, they may also be "talking past each other", as they have different goals and starting points.
Not sure what the answer is, but it's a question scientists should be investigating, rather than just assuming they know the answer, or ignoring the problem.
I disagree when you say it's not science at that point. The trouble is that scientists who are trying to communicate to the public ignore the scientific information about how people learn and change their beliefs. Too many scientists think that the average person is just like them; present the public with the data and the theories and they'll make the right decision. That idea ignores the fact that we're all emotional beings, not much different from the apes.
Hard drives need to use 1-time passwords to be very secure. Of course then you need a physical token like secure-id or an iButton or something, but at least then the dork has to lose his laptop and his keys/secure-id before the attack would succeed.
So, when you go out to eat with a bunch of people from work, you are happy with splitting the bill evenly, even though someone has lobster and wine and you had a side-salad and water?
The services the government provides to someone living at the poverty level in rural Arkansas are wildly different than those provided to Warren Buffet.
Yeah, something like that. In the movie, the bad guy smashed the driver's side window with the butt of his rifle. It's difficult to speculate, but it seemed that in the bond case, the security system was more about keeping the spy tech from falling into the "wrong hands" than just killing someone who was trying to jack his car (since obviously a blown up car is of no more use than a stolen one:-)
In the movie (don't remember which one, I saw it when I was a kid), Bond's car is parked outside a bad guy's property while he rescues the damsel in distress. As they go back to his car, one of the bad guy's henchmen try to break in. The car explodes in a giant fireball, obviously killing the henchman.
I sure the hell hope so! The Enlightenment happened over 200 years ago. Come on people it's time to give up the bronze age myths and connect your thinking to reality...
You forget that the numeration of rights in the Bill of Rights was not intended to be a complete list. It's not a case of everything that is not permitted is forbidden. The Constitution is a list of restrictions on Government Power, not the rights of the citizens.
I really wanted to turn July 4th into 'Burn a Flag Day', but my wife wouldn't let me. I also imagine that the neighbors would take it wrongly. The idea behind 'burn a flag day' would be to celebrate the fact that we have the freedoms to do so. Everyone insulting/offending everyone else (without inciting violence) would be a nice addition as well.
I'm not in front of the machine right now (and it's powered down), but I don't think that's it. I'm pretty sure I tired Ubuntu, at least once, and according to this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Epia_CN10000 the C7 is an i686. So does this: http://tinyurl.com/2pmpwy but it seems to indicate that a C3 (the previous VIA processor rev) wasn't an i686.
Yeah, I've tried each new Fedora release (and some Suse and Ubuntu) when it comes out. Each one locks up hard. I don't care if it's fast, as it's a replacement for a Cobalt RaQ2+ 250MHz MIPS machine with no X11 installed...I just want it to run, be stable, and run VMWare.
I've been trying different Linux releases since 6 or 7, and I can't get anything to run stable on my VIA EPIA EN-15000G. Memtest86 will run for days with no errors. NetBSD (CURRENT) will run stable for as long as I've kept it up. Linux dies (just locks up hard: ping gets nothing, no response at the console) after a day or two at most, whether or not X is running. I'd _really_ prefer Linux for this box, since I wanted VMWare and to be able to consolidate a few boxes I use for various things. But I can't get Linux stable. Other people have reported their EN-15000G is stable, but not mine for some reason...
If a bunch of old folks rent a bus for a group tour, and then choose some crazed maniac to drive the bus and he mows down fifty people before getting stopped, wouldn't you say that the old folks' tour bus killed those people?
Sorry, but NeoCons _are_ republicans. Bush is a NeoCon, and by convention he's the head of the damn party. My family is a farming family back 6 generations, so we certainly have some conservative leanings, but if you still consider yourself a Republican after you let the NeoCons hijack the party, you might as well be a NeoCon too.
It's funny, but I could never get my EPIA EN-15000G to run Linux reliably. Memtest86 ran for literally days without an error. Linux would lockup hard with or without X running. NetBSD runs rock-solid, but I sure miss being able to run VMWare...
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I was at the meeting (I live in Sebastopol) and I was going to speak up and mention exactly this. However, given that there was just 1 other (non Sonic.net CEO) speaker in favor and something like 15 public commenters against, and because I don't really have any interest in downtown wifi at this point I didn't bother to speak. It was apparent that no matter what facts and science was offered, the anti-wifi people had made up their minds. Dane (sonic.net CEO) brought up the 12,000 watts of FM transmitter just 7 miles away vs. the 0.1 watts of wifi. Nothing was going to penetrate their beliefs. And of course they believed they had "science" on their side as well.
Mostly, the meeting was a very depressing experience for me.
OT, but 89903 isn't low. You hiding another one somewhere? :-)
That's the "wrong". Because when the system crashes all the writes that 'sync' should have put on stable storage are gone.
The point of the Berkeley program is to come up with toolsets so you don't have to "juggle 1000 cores in your head". Instead, you describe, using the toolset, the problem in a way which is decomposable, and the tools spread the work over the 1000+ cores. No more worrying if you incremented that semaphore correctly because you're operating at a much higher level.
What questions are answered by religion?
I can understand the appeal of the social aspect of going to church, but I see no questions answered by religion. I do see the reinforcement of wish thinking, but no "answers".
I think it is more of the human ability to interpret vagueness into anything. The genesis description of the origin of the universe lends itself to analogy, which he uses in that paper. Now his physics may be accurate in that the Universe may extend much further than the matter we can detect, and that may explain the velocity anomaly. But to extend that to say that a very vague story from 3000 years ago is a true an accurate description of the universe's origins and that therefore the bible is literally true is just fantasy.
I've never been a believer. Recently, after reading The Selfish Gene and seeing just how much real evidence there is for evolution and seeing that science really _is_ an accurate and true explanation for how we came to be on the earth. It really does explain away any "need" for any sort of "personal god" as an alternate explanation. So, to give equal time to "the other side", I tried to read the bible. I got thru Genesis, but realized that there really is "nothing there" as far as explanatory power. And certainly to try to extract morals from the old testament would be a mistake. So then I got "Skeptics Answered" and again, there really isn't anything to the arguments of the believers.
While I'm interested in why people believe, and how we can change that going forward, I've really lost interest in _what_ they believe. It really holds no value as near as I can tell.
CA refers to those as "open container" laws.
I think in Texas, you can still drink your beer while driving your truck and shooting out the window at street signs.
Ok, I made that last bit up.
I'd agree with the stipulation that society as a whole, not just scientists need to work toward making society more effective decision makers....
The trouble is, there are so many in many positions of power (clergy, politicians, marketeers) who benefit (at least in the micro) from people being ineffective decision makers.
Yeah, it's disheartening, but like the fact that when we die we cease to exist, it's reality, so the best thing to do as a scientist is to deal with it as reality, not ignore it and engage in wish-thinking.
There's lots of debates online about this, witness the disagreements between PZ Myers ( http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/ ) and Matt Nisbet ( http://scienceblogs.com/framing-science/ ) about how best to "sell" science to the public. They both have good points, but I'm not sure either one has much science/data backing up their opinions. For some of it, they may also be "talking past each other", as they have different goals and starting points.
Not sure what the answer is, but it's a question scientists should be investigating, rather than just assuming they know the answer, or ignoring the problem.
I disagree when you say it's not science at that point. The trouble is that scientists who are trying to communicate to the public ignore the scientific information about how people learn and change their beliefs. Too many scientists think that the average person is just like them; present the public with the data and the theories and they'll make the right decision. That idea ignores the fact that we're all emotional beings, not much different from the apes.
Hard drives need to use 1-time passwords to be very secure. Of course then you need a physical token like secure-id or an iButton or something, but at least then the dork has to lose his laptop and his keys/secure-id before the attack would succeed.
So, when you go out to eat with a bunch of people from work, you are happy with splitting the bill evenly, even though someone has lobster and wine and you had a side-salad and water?
The services the government provides to someone living at the poverty level in rural Arkansas are wildly different than those provided to Warren Buffet.
I tried, and the Googol page I got back said, "I'm sorry Dave, but you don't need to see that."
Yeah, something like that. In the movie, the bad guy smashed the driver's side window with the butt of his rifle. It's difficult to speculate, but it seemed that in the bond case, the security system was more about keeping the spy tech from falling into the "wrong hands" than just killing someone who was trying to jack his car (since obviously a blown up car is of no more use than a stolen one :-)
I guess I'm too old for slashdot
In the movie (don't remember which one, I saw it when I was a kid), Bond's car is parked outside a bad guy's property while he rescues the damsel in distress. As they go back to his car, one of the bad guy's henchmen try to break in. The car explodes in a giant fireball, obviously killing the henchman.
I'm still waiting for a smart-card with a tamper prevention system like James Bond's Lotus Esprit.
I sure the hell hope so! The Enlightenment happened over 200 years ago. Come on people it's time to give up the bronze age myths and connect your thinking to reality...
You forget that the numeration of rights in the Bill of Rights was not intended to be a complete list. It's not a case of everything that is not permitted is forbidden. The Constitution is a list of restrictions on Government Power, not the rights of the citizens.
I really wanted to turn July 4th into 'Burn a Flag Day', but my wife wouldn't let me. I also imagine that the neighbors would take it wrongly. The idea behind 'burn a flag day' would be to celebrate the fact that we have the freedoms to do so. Everyone insulting/offending everyone else (without inciting violence) would be a nice addition as well.
I'm not in front of the machine right now (and it's powered down), but I don't think that's it. I'm pretty sure I tired Ubuntu, at least once, and according to this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Epia_CN10000 the C7 is an i686. So does this: http://tinyurl.com/2pmpwy but it seems to indicate that a C3 (the previous VIA processor rev) wasn't an i686.
Yeah, I've tried each new Fedora release (and some Suse and Ubuntu) when it comes out. Each one locks up hard. I don't care if it's fast, as it's a replacement for a Cobalt RaQ2+ 250MHz MIPS machine with no X11 installed...I just want it to run, be stable, and run VMWare.
I've been trying different Linux releases since 6 or 7, and I can't get anything to run stable on my VIA EPIA EN-15000G. Memtest86 will run for days with no errors. NetBSD (CURRENT) will run stable for as long as I've kept it up. Linux dies (just locks up hard: ping gets nothing, no response at the console) after a day or two at most, whether or not X is running. I'd _really_ prefer Linux for this box, since I wanted VMWare and to be able to consolidate a few boxes I use for various things. But I can't get Linux stable. Other people have reported their EN-15000G is stable, but not mine for some reason...
I still have my pet rock, 30+ years later...
If a bunch of old folks rent a bus for a group tour, and then choose some crazed maniac to drive the bus and he mows down fifty people before getting stopped, wouldn't you say that the old folks' tour bus killed those people?
Sorry, but NeoCons _are_ republicans. Bush is a NeoCon, and by convention he's the head of the damn party. My family is a farming family back 6 generations, so we certainly have some conservative leanings, but if you still consider yourself a Republican after you let the NeoCons hijack the party, you might as well be a NeoCon too.
It's funny, but I could never get my EPIA EN-15000G to run Linux reliably. Memtest86 ran for literally days without an error. Linux would lockup hard with or without X running. NetBSD runs rock-solid, but I sure miss being able to run VMWare...