I can only assume based on:
(Including software that is not developed by Linux*) that you have no idea what you're talking about. Nothing is developed linux. The is no linux in that respect. That's like saying "developed by the barn that a bunch of farmers just pitched in to build."
But, to take what you've said and expand it: by your logic, Microsoft should be blamed for all vulnerabilities in software made by anybody else, like, I don't know, Corel. In what crazy world does that make sense?
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now that I reread your post, you might have dropped your <sarcasm> tags...
second that! thanks for xen-tools. It makes my home server a breeze. I've got my local lan file-server/approx server as Dom0, firewall, apache server and mail server all running in DomU's with pciback hiding my public interface from everyone but my firewall. Its slick and easy. (idea totally stolen from shorewall, btw)
I know that running different uses in VM's is not real efficient, but my loads are low and I can tinker with parts of the system while my wife is still able to listen to her music. Never underestimate the trouble caused by "honey, I'm upgrading the mail server and I'll be taking the music/vid/photos offline for a while..." or the benefits of overhauling the firewall while still having access to the IMAPS/SMTP server available (even if nothing gets delivered for a while).
others have sorta said this but not as bluntly as I will.
my mythtv box (knoppmyth actually as I'm lazy and have enough debian machines to maintain) turns itself ON and OFF as needed to record whatever shows are scheduled. It generally spends between 0 and 4 hours a day ON (including watching time... turns out most of the shows we record are being recorded at the same time we're watching pre-recorded shows).
So, I know this doesn't answer your question, and I'm all for technology, but why not just run a multi-output speaker control box. Then just pipe the same signal to all the rooms over plain old speaker wire. I'm sure you can get lovely remote control panels (or fab some up) to control the device too. Its just so much simpler, IMO.
yeah, works fine in ff on debian too. Unfortunately I'll never know if they read my suggestion as they explicitly say they will never respond to a suggestion. I wonder if that is a special non-ie suggestion page?
csr: can you turn off the modem, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on.
me: plays gnometris for about 45 seconds, 'cuz I already did that
me: mumble mumble mumble, "okay yeah its back up now. "
csr: okay, now reboot your computer.
me: plays some more gnometris while muttering "come on... god I hate how long this takes..."
me: type ifdown eth2 && ifup eth2 just to make sure... nope, no connection. click over to modem diagnostics page, note that signal levels are still crap, play some more gnometris "okay, computer's back up. umm..." wait, wait wait "yeah, no connection. "
csr: okay, please click on the start menu, settings, control panel... blah blah blah... click on "Repair Connection"
me: ooh that must be some "magic" button, types ifdown eth2 && ifup eth2, check signal levels again, play some more gnometris "nope, no luck still no ip address."
csr: okay, we'll have to schedule a tech to come take a look at that. We can have them come between 4:00AM next thursday and 11:00PM the thris following Saturday, will that be alright... So, yeah, I lie to csr's.
Years ago a buddy and I reduced the english language to something like 12 letters by applying some simple rules. f == v sound, ff == f, ph sound, etc etc. Bii thu tiim uuee uuur dun uuee'd eeliminaatd moct uf thu leturc and lotc uf beer. or something like that.
yeah, I won't disagree with you, but it wouldn't surprise me to find something like that in the piles of rules that credit card companies have to follow. but, if there is no such rule, why do they not charge for accepting paper checks? is it just because they already have the infrastructure? of course they *are* banks and as such don't have to go to the bank, just process the check like any other bank would. or is it just because they haven't thought of it yet? I mean if the online payment is actually cheaper, I would think they'd want to encourage its use and also generate another revenue stream by charging for paper checks. meh.
This creditor is most likely a credit card company and I hardly doubt they want to discourage people from using the phone system. exactly right. luckily for me I wasn't in a position where I was forced to pay the $15 or the $30 plus more interest. I've been there. That sucks.
And I think you are right, that was why I originally emphasised the "automated" aspect of the telephone payment system. They are not incurring any additional costs by accepting the telephone payment. In fact they are probably saving money as it means they can free up a call-center employee for the next call instead of keeping them on the line to take the payment information.
Effectively what they are doing is trying to get as much of their bill payment as possible onto the internet as that is likely the cheapest alternative for them. I would imagine (without bothering to research it) that they are prohibited from charging for manually processing a mailed in payment (and that's pretty automated too). But you can bet that when enough people are paying their cc bills online they'll start charging for that. meh.
As I've said, i'm all in favor of business and mark-up etc., so please don't think I'm off the deep end. I was mostly expressing my general frustration with a system that is designed, more and more, to pull money from the little guy and pass it farther and farther up the chain with more and more efficiency. Maybe I'm just too low on that chain.
regardless, your examples are not all that great, excepting wikipedia.
Slashdot requires me to pay in some fashion -- either through viewing the ads or taking the time to install and configure adblock. granted, the cost is cheap cheap cheap (especially at what my time is worth) but it is there. Same with, e.g. google.
Credit cards? hardly, do you think the merchant just eats up his 2-3% discount rate? It figures into the cost equation somewhere. I know that I have made incremental increases in my retail prices in part because of the increased cost to me of processing credit/debit cards. And not because the per transaction cost has gone up, but because the usage of such cards has gone up significantly over the past few years to the point where my credit card processing fees as a percentage of sales has doubled. The consumer pays for that somewhere.
But we could argue all these points for days. I have no complaint about paying for services rendered, product delivered, value-added etc. Its the gratuitous stuff: credit bureaus charging for services that watch your credit scores that they are preparing for someone else to use so that you can find their mistakes. I wish I could charge people for my mistakes. Charging to process payments. Claiming not to charge late fees (blockbuster) but charging a "restocking fee" for movies returned late. etc. etc. etc.
That's the idea behind currency. of course.
fork over money... it just makes someone wealthier. hope you don't mind the editing. I think its still true to your point. This is the issue. I'm all for mark-up, added-value etc (I own a small business and do exactly this every day). Its the gratuitous fees for no other reason than pumping up someone's bottom line that I have a problem with.
Here's a classic example. I was talking to a creditor the other day about the most expeditious method of paying them. My choices were to pay by mail (and be late:( ), pay online for no charge, or pay using their automated telephone payment system for a charge of $14.95. Now review that -- pay online for no charge or pay via telephone using an automated system for $14.95. Gratuitous profiteering. This is the source of my cynicism.
I suppose it looks like it, but I wasn't intending to imply that being an adult is less free than being a teen. But it certainly appears to be more lopsided than it is. The transition from the apparent freedom of childhood to a decidedly not-free-adulthood is difficult and to a teen probably seems worse than it is. A teen looks at an adult's freedom and thinks its all wine and roses, but its not. It's merely a perception. That was the point I was after.
I get more and more cynical as time goes on but...
It all comes down to this: no matter what, you must pay. There is no getting around it. You must pay. You must pay to save money (account fees). You must pay to spend money (transaction fees). You must pay for almost everything you do. If you can find something you do that you aren't currently paying for in some way, then you are lucky.
damn. I need to get some more caffeine. or change my playlist here.
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But, to take what you've said and expand it: by your logic, Microsoft should be blamed for all vulnerabilities in software made by anybody else, like, I don't know, Corel. In what crazy world does that make sense?
-or-
now that I reread your post, you might have dropped your <sarcasm> tags...
*emphasis mine
second that! thanks for xen-tools. It makes my home server a breeze. I've got my local lan file-server/approx server as Dom0, firewall, apache server and mail server all running in DomU's with pciback hiding my public interface from everyone but my firewall. Its slick and easy. (idea totally stolen from shorewall, btw)
I know that running different uses in VM's is not real efficient, but my loads are low and I can tinker with parts of the system while my wife is still able to listen to her music. Never underestimate the trouble caused by "honey, I'm upgrading the mail server and I'll be taking the music/vid/photos offline for a while..." or the benefits of overhauling the firewall while still having access to the IMAPS/SMTP server available (even if nothing gets delivered for a while).
others have sorta said this but not as bluntly as I will.
my mythtv box (knoppmyth actually as I'm lazy and have enough debian machines to maintain) turns itself ON and OFF as needed to record whatever shows are scheduled. It generally spends between 0 and 4 hours a day ON (including watching time... turns out most of the shows we record are being recorded at the same time we're watching pre-recorded shows).
but that's just me.
So, I know this doesn't answer your question, and I'm all for technology, but why not just run a multi-output speaker control box. Then just pipe the same signal to all the rooms over plain old speaker wire. I'm sure you can get lovely remote control panels (or fab some up) to control the device too. Its just so much simpler, IMO.
on a laptop??
a couple more links
5 71.html5 11.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/12/msg01
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/03/msg00
despite the titles of the emails, he's got it working and there is an xorg.conf and gdm.conf at the bottom.
I think he did a real how-to somewhere, but I can't find it.
[quote]Since this is /., they probably read the cover blurb and figured that was enough to get the jist of it. ;)[/quote]
If you read the whole thing, then you'll miss the frosty pist...
Sour Grapes of Wrath
dag. that doesn't work. still undoes the mod'ing. Oh well, here I am, it was me.
right. time for bed then. 'night all
I'm using discussion2 and my floating bar and the expand comment links aren't working. anyone else see this?
Also getting 503's for my personal page. huh.
yeah, works fine in ff on debian too. Unfortunately I'll never know if they read my suggestion as they explicitly say they will never respond to a suggestion. I wonder if that is a special non-ie suggestion page?
scrape it off with a pocket knife?
me: plays gnometris for about 45 seconds, 'cuz I already did that
me: mumble mumble mumble, "okay yeah its back up now. "
csr: okay, now reboot your computer.
me: plays some more gnometris while muttering "come on... god I hate how long this takes..."
me: type ifdown eth2 && ifup eth2 just to make sure... nope, no connection. click over to modem diagnostics page, note that signal levels are still crap, play some more gnometris "okay, computer's back up. umm..." wait, wait wait "yeah, no connection. "
csr: okay, please click on the start menu, settings, control panel... blah blah blah
me: ooh that must be some "magic" button, types ifdown eth2 && ifup eth2, check signal levels again, play some more gnometris "nope, no luck still no ip address."
csr: okay, we'll have to schedule a tech to come take a look at that. We can have them come between 4:00AM next thursday and 11:00PM the thris following Saturday, will that be alright... So, yeah, I lie to csr's.
kinda nice to see this statement. usually it's the other way around.
Years ago a buddy and I reduced the english language to something like 12 letters by applying some simple rules. f == v sound, ff == f, ph sound, etc etc. Bii thu tiim uuee uuur dun uuee'd eeliminaatd moct uf thu leturc and lotc uf beer. or something like that.
AOL!
I've done it on deb-user. sometimes its just *too* freakin' obvious and has to be done. sorry to whoever you were.
And then we could invest that saved space to make more space!!!!@!1!11!1
yeah, I won't disagree with you, but it wouldn't surprise me to find something like that in the piles of rules that credit card companies have to follow. but, if there is no such rule, why do they not charge for accepting paper checks? is it just because they already have the infrastructure? of course they *are* banks and as such don't have to go to the bank, just process the check like any other bank would. or is it just because they haven't thought of it yet? I mean if the online payment is actually cheaper, I would think they'd want to encourage its use and also generate another revenue stream by charging for paper checks. meh.
And I think you are right, that was why I originally emphasised the "automated" aspect of the telephone payment system. They are not incurring any additional costs by accepting the telephone payment. In fact they are probably saving money as it means they can free up a call-center employee for the next call instead of keeping them on the line to take the payment information.
Effectively what they are doing is trying to get as much of their bill payment as possible onto the internet as that is likely the cheapest alternative for them. I would imagine (without bothering to research it) that they are prohibited from charging for manually processing a mailed in payment (and that's pretty automated too). But you can bet that when enough people are paying their cc bills online they'll start charging for that. meh.
As I've said, i'm all in favor of business and mark-up etc., so please don't think I'm off the deep end. I was mostly expressing my general frustration with a system that is designed, more and more, to pull money from the little guy and pass it farther and farther up the chain with more and more efficiency. Maybe I'm just too low on that chain.
regardless, your examples are not all that great, excepting wikipedia.
Slashdot requires me to pay in some fashion -- either through viewing the ads or taking the time to install and configure adblock. granted, the cost is cheap cheap cheap (especially at what my time is worth) but it is there. Same with, e.g. google.
Credit cards? hardly, do you think the merchant just eats up his 2-3% discount rate? It figures into the cost equation somewhere. I know that I have made incremental increases in my retail prices in part because of the increased cost to me of processing credit/debit cards. And not because the per transaction cost has gone up, but because the usage of such cards has gone up significantly over the past few years to the point where my credit card processing fees as a percentage of sales has doubled. The consumer pays for that somewhere.
But we could argue all these points for days. I have no complaint about paying for services rendered, product delivered, value-added etc. Its the gratuitous stuff: credit bureaus charging for services that watch your credit scores that they are preparing for someone else to use so that you can find their mistakes. I wish I could charge people for my mistakes. Charging to process payments. Claiming not to charge late fees (blockbuster) but charging a "restocking fee" for movies returned late. etc. etc. etc.
Here's a classic example. I was talking to a creditor the other day about the most expeditious method of paying them. My choices were to pay by mail (and be late
I suppose it looks like it, but I wasn't intending to imply that being an adult is less free than being a teen. But it certainly appears to be more lopsided than it is. The transition from the apparent freedom of childhood to a decidedly not-free-adulthood is difficult and to a teen probably seems worse than it is. A teen looks at an adult's freedom and thinks its all wine and roses, but its not. It's merely a perception. That was the point I was after.
Oh, and your comments are spot on IMO.
crap. I really posted to the wrong thread...
Fuck this. Just a further attempt to fuck the consumer over.
my comments really belong in this thread.
I get more and more cynical as time goes on but...
It all comes down to this: no matter what, you must pay. There is no getting around it. You must pay. You must pay to save money (account fees). You must pay to spend money (transaction fees). You must pay for almost everything you do. If you can find something you do that you aren't currently paying for in some way, then you are lucky.
damn. I need to get some more caffeine. or change my playlist here.