It took Creative long enough to hop on the bandwagon. I have a SB Live! Value and the support under linux is bad. It's rather non-standard. However, it is nice that they are finally coming around. I am waiting for the Q1-2000 release of the new drivers to see if this will help/fix things.
Is anyone here working on that project that can give some status on it?
Standards... Lets flash back to 1993... HTML 1.0... (kinda like, let's say, Messaging RFC XXX.a) And everything worked just fine, until someone got this nifty idea for tables that were outside of the standard spec. (Like let's say AT&T MP3 Broadcast for ATTIM (AT&T Instant Messenger))... So everything will work fine if you have the right messenger... Unless you try to contact the MS Support Messenger with the AOL Messenger, and someone tries something unsupported by the other... ooh, segfault? blue-screen?
Standards are not the only answer. Good luck hitting the M$ MSDN web pages with Netscape. Ooh, lookit that, some ASP error. Hmm, IE has no problem with the same page.
Standards will help for about 6 months till someone gets cute and tries to get a larger share of the market with some funky idea or improperly implemented new 'feature'. If you are going to try to 'fix' this issue with a blind standard, good luck.
> PS: Hey, BTW, does anyone know of any attempts > to put Linux on cell phones? (Just cause we > can!) I've been looking around but haven't seen > any info out there.
Well, isn't there a project to port linux to the palm? Well someone just came up with a palm IIIe/phone. So, there you go.
Has anyone played with one of these? I like the PDA+MP3 thing, but not sure about WinCE. But now that it will have Powered Windows, I might reconsider it *joke*.
Seriously, has anyone played with these or WinCE devices in general?
Including a linux executable is one thing. Including a linux executable AND including support for a month when MOST of your tech support don't even know what linux is, is dangerous. A company should never release something with a promise to support it, and have ZERO infrastructure to match.
I think that when they see their FTP servers redline, and their fat OC's clogged with linux binaries flying off the FTP site(s?), they will realize the market is there. Then they can look at getting a linux support staff and incorporating it into the support model.
I think the fact that they are doing the linux port itself to be a wonderful thing. That by itself takes balls (imagine the developer cost?). However, they don't want to shoot themselves in the foot.
okay, I am dropping off into the theoretical here, but bear with me...
We all know the speed of sound. Well, that is the speed of sound at sea level. The speed of sound in water is quite a bit faster. Something about closer particles transmitting a wave form faster.
Light is also a wave, just electro-magnetic. The medium the wave is passing through will also affect the speed of transmission.
That is yer lesson in pseudophysics from a former chem major. heh.
I remember about a year back seeing a product which I will describe...
It was a pad. Wireless, rechargeable. All it did was trap your mouse, keyboard and monitor, then sent them wirelessly to the pad. And back when you input anything. It allowed you to take your pc anywhere within a reasonable distance from the base transciever.
Does anyone know where I can find a beast of this kind? Or was I hitting the crack pipe a little hard that week?
I have made it out of the dial-out line days with the advent of DSL... But this could be a concern for linux users who do dial up. Are there any PCI regular modems (NOT WINMODEMS)? And if you blow away the comm ports there goes all support for the old Courier External V.Everythings I have 2 of.
Good luck trying to connect... this might be a good time to start working on Winmodem drivers/hacks.
From the threads I have gathered here, it looks like the files in question were held on private PC's (those of the students) and protected by (albeit easy) passwords. Guessing even an easy password is cracking. Last time I checked, connecting to someone's network did not give away your right to not be cracked. And cracking into someone's computer is still illegal.
Methinks those students that DID have passwords, non-public accounts, etc., should contact a lawyer and file a suit.
I'd heard somewhere what a joke the EPA Green PC thing was because a computer uses up something like 1/1000th of the energy it took to manufacture itin the first place.
In stead of just focusing on the landfull stuffing value of this idea we need to look at how much fossil fuel will get burned to enable us to have a billion milk cartons with mooing cows on the front.
I can imagine an ad imprinted on just aout everything. Think about how unrelaxing things will be in 15 years when everything has full color animations scrolling all over it! Ugh. Reminds me of the attention-sapping digital homes pictured in Neal Stephenson's 'The Diamond Age', where there are no more conversations, just someone saying a random comment while everyone else zones out to the million colorful distractions.
Not necessarily. A friend of mine has a Cable modem with some strange caveats. When you connect to the service the ISP blocks (almost) all ports except for PING until you validate against their firewall with a Win 9x/NT program. Only then does it open the rest of the ports for you. -Steve
This may sound paranoid, but they may be partnered with M$, but M$ might encourage them not to push IE5 because of the court issues. The last thing M$ need is one more complaint about their bullying.
After all, if you need Win 9x to run it, you eventually will NEED IE at some point in time.
What are the odds that the BBC will make a RealAudio clip of the show and post it, or make it otherwsie available to those of us slackers in the US and the rest of the world?
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It took Creative long enough to hop on the bandwagon. I have a SB Live! Value and the support under linux is bad. It's rather non-standard. However, it is nice that they are finally coming around. I am waiting for the Q1-2000 release of the new drivers to see if this will help/fix things.
Is anyone here working on that project that can give some status on it?
-Steve
Standards... Lets flash back to 1993... HTML 1.0... (kinda like, let's say, Messaging RFC XXX.a) And everything worked just fine, until someone got this nifty idea for tables that were outside of the standard spec. (Like let's say AT&T MP3 Broadcast for ATTIM (AT&T Instant Messenger))... So everything will work fine if you have the right messenger... Unless you try to contact the MS Support Messenger with the AOL Messenger, and someone tries something unsupported by the other... ooh, segfault? blue-screen?
Standards are not the only answer. Good luck hitting the M$ MSDN web pages with Netscape. Ooh, lookit that, some ASP error. Hmm, IE has no problem with the same page.
Standards will help for about 6 months till someone gets cute and tries to get a larger share of the market with some funky idea or improperly implemented new 'feature'. If you are going to try to 'fix' this issue with a blind standard, good luck.
-Steve
> PS: Hey, BTW, does anyone know of any attempts
> to put Linux on cell phones? (Just cause we
> can!) I've been looking around but haven't seen
> any info out there.
Well, isn't there a project to port linux to the palm? Well someone just came up with a palm IIIe/phone. So, there you go.
-Steve
Has anyone played with one of these? I like the PDA+MP3 thing, but not sure about WinCE. But now that it will have Powered Windows, I might reconsider it *joke*.
Seriously, has anyone played with these or WinCE devices in general?
umm... okay... NOT.
Including a linux executable is one thing. Including a linux executable AND including support for a month when MOST of your tech support don't even know what linux is, is dangerous. A company should never release something with a promise to support it, and have ZERO infrastructure to match.
I think that when they see their FTP servers redline, and their fat OC's clogged with linux binaries flying off the FTP site(s?), they will realize the market is there. Then they can look at getting a linux support staff and incorporating it into the support model.
I think the fact that they are doing the linux port itself to be a wonderful thing. That by itself takes balls (imagine the developer cost?). However, they don't want to shoot themselves in the foot.
-Steve
One can't forget the one that came a year, a month, a day, eleven seconds, eleven minues and eleven hours later: 12:34:56 7/8/90
You mean, someone ported Microsoft Bob to Linux? That could be ugly.
okay, I am dropping off into the theoretical here, but bear with me...
We all know the speed of sound. Well, that is the speed of sound at sea level. The speed of sound in water is quite a bit faster. Something about closer particles transmitting a wave form faster.
Light is also a wave, just electro-magnetic. The medium the wave is passing through will also affect the speed of transmission.
That is yer lesson in pseudophysics from a former chem major. heh.
-Steve
I remember about a year back seeing a product which I will describe...
It was a pad. Wireless, rechargeable. All it did was trap your mouse, keyboard and monitor, then sent them wirelessly to the pad. And back when you input anything. It allowed you to take your pc anywhere within a reasonable distance from the base transciever.
Does anyone know where I can find a beast of this kind? Or was I hitting the crack pipe a little hard that week?
-Steve
I have made it out of the dial-out line days with the advent of DSL... But this could be a concern for linux users who do dial up. Are there any PCI regular modems (NOT WINMODEMS)? And if you blow away the comm ports there goes all support for the old Courier External V.Everythings I have 2 of.
Good luck trying to connect... this might be a good time to start working on Winmodem drivers/hacks.
-Steve
From the threads I have gathered here, it looks like the files in question were held on private PC's (those of the students) and protected by (albeit easy) passwords. Guessing even an easy password is cracking. Last time I checked, connecting to someone's network did not give away your right to not be cracked. And cracking into someone's computer is still illegal.
Methinks those students that DID have passwords, non-public accounts, etc., should contact a lawyer and file a suit.
-Steve
I seem to remember something about Chicago... oh yeah, 'Vote Early, Vote Often'... heh... -Steve
Ya know, if they changed the name to Center for Learning Innovative Technologies, they'd have a much more interesting acronym...
-Steve
How about environmentalism of a different sort?
I'd heard somewhere what a joke the EPA Green PC thing was because a computer uses up something like 1/1000th of the energy it took to manufacture itin the first place.
In stead of just focusing on the landfull stuffing value of this idea we need to look at how much fossil fuel will get burned to enable us to have a billion milk cartons with mooing cows on the front.
I can imagine an ad imprinted on just aout everything. Think about how unrelaxing things will be in 15 years when everything has full color animations scrolling all over it! Ugh. Reminds me of the attention-sapping digital homes pictured in Neal Stephenson's 'The Diamond Age', where there are no more conversations, just someone saying a random comment while everyone else zones out to the million colorful distractions.
Not necessarily. A friend of mine has a Cable modem with some strange caveats. When you connect to the service the ISP blocks (almost) all ports except for PING until you validate against their firewall with a Win 9x/NT program. Only then does it open the rest of the ports for you. -Steve
This may sound paranoid, but they may be partnered with M$, but M$ might encourage them not to push IE5 because of the court issues. The last thing M$ need is one more complaint about their bullying.
After all, if you need Win 9x to run it, you eventually will NEED IE at some point in time.
-Steve
What are the odds that the BBC will make a RealAudio clip of the show and post it, or make it otherwsie available to those of us slackers in the US and the rest of the world?
Not to sound ignorant (see tagline below) but what is gateway (as in the cow boxes?) doing with amiga?