Essentially, you're using Wordpress as a library, which is GPL and not LGPL. It makes sense, it's just your (and my) perceptions of what constitute as data and code is blurred with templates. You'd think they'd be a data structure but they're actually code. It's the same in Joomla too: most templates I have read have to copy and paste lots of code from the default templates to get the same basic behaviour.
So they use Wordpress as a library and they then "become" GPL or they're violating.
In Wordpress the templates are PHP calls to functions, so it is basically a contribution to the codebase in itself. It's not a templating language what you would expect.
Not that I understand GPL or Wordpress but that sounds like the logic.
I honestly don't see how CSS could become GPLed though.
Good point. The market will learn to adapt to this I reckon.
If someone makes a plugin (that is GPLed) that reads another form of file (which has nothing to do with the original Wordpress codebase) and is a *true* template language which uses SUBSTITUTIONS like {post_title} and {post_body} rather than get_post_body();
currently templates are PHP coded, they should not. It's bad design to begin with and quite obvious why it inherits the GPL.
Surely this new template engine would not be infected by the GPL as the new plugin is only a READER of another format. The plugin itself would have to be GPL but the files it reads would not;-)
Otherwise the logic would be that someone who makes a database plugin to talk to a database, say Oracle and then Oracle DOES NOT become open source, which is stupid.
Don't you think it's wrong to enjoy that content? I know censorship does not work and to believe in free speech you have to permit the stuff you do not approve of (I am an avid freenet user. I know this.)
It reminds me of the story about a man who thought he could bring back to life a dead young girl by giving it cunningulus. In his world, it was not evil.
There is someting inherently evil and sickening about the human soul. I will never understand it. I don't know how to express my fear and condemnation of people who enjoy violence. It goes against everything a living thing should stand for.
I feel an equivalent fury and rage when people enjoy violence and depictions of death. It's not human. It's like people who watch Saw and torture porn. How can you enjoy that?
Censorship is obviously the wrong answer because it doesn't work but it would enrage the idiots. People should be self-censoring of this shit. This stuff should have been bred out of us from the days when we enjoyed executions and live brutality.
To enjoy death is not something to be taken lightly.
Create an application and use this to represent yourself (give it my name). Essentially you can collect all the data about your friends with less of the risks.
You can use it to message your friends and write on their walls. hopefully your friends are dumb enough to give permission "Your Name wants to write on your wall".
Me to. Have considered this for a while. Never been comfortable with how much they know about us.
Can anybody recommend a good paid email host?
It's not going to be fun changing all my account's email addresses but could set up a redirection while still changing over. It's not as if I even use the Gmail interface, which is slow.
his own invention...It's just an interpretation of the patent. The code is its own creative work. Judging by these posts, it boils down to a mathematic function.
Two individuals can invent things simultaneously and separately. While one might get credit, they both invented it.
Not that the law seems to take this into account. SNAFU
I have no idea who it works but what if one was more accurate than the other? It could be a difference in the comparison function? The lookup in a central database maybe?
I imagine they will look completely different. Different coding styles notwithstanding but the general coding approach taking for each including datastructures, design, lookup.
For example the window size may be different making one slower and one faster? Another example is OS or browsers. How does each browser schedule? They both have the same job but do it differently. Even ones in the same cateogory (round robin, least recently used or whatever) they may very well be implemented differently that gives them different characteristics.
Companies should be subject to the same laws that individuals are bound by, without all the inappropriate benefits.
No tax breaks or at least only for a brief and unextendable period, like only for a new significant technology, like a renewable resource or medical
Money should not be synonomous for law, it makes me sick that a business can fight law simply with money. Maybe we need a national jury? Everyone vote if this business acted wrongly!
We have never had a freemarket, what we have is a bastardization of the free market. A free market economy actually works to solve problems. Patents, copyrights and trademarks are artificial evils.
Businesses that lobby should never be able to donate funds. If legislation is the result of lobbying, it should be made public when the legislation is made. In the UK our votes go on a register, it is not anonymous!
My point was not that people use a personal entertainment player OR books. It was more of a 'in place of'. It was that I do not need a personal entertainment player if I have books to keep me entertained. No advertising will convince me otherwise. I don't need a ebook reader either. I want to own my books.
That's fast.
What made you buy 'Levis' to begin with? Was it the wimminz in the adverts? Actually, I don't even know if that's the right brand. Do they have grayed out adverts? Oh well, either way. I will not buy that product. I'll use more 'materialistic' guides on whether to buy a product. Perhaps trying it on to see if it fits? Is there enough room if I put on weight? Is there pockets?
It's right in there with the perfume adverts: how can a perfume have an 'image'? It's a smell and it cannot be represented by an advert.
It's not prejudice. Maybe there is more intangible benefits to products like product image. If so, I'm not falling for it. If you like speeding about in your roadster at 140mph, so be it. That's the image that's comfortable with you. Me? It gives me a uncomfortable feeling of selling out.
I figured that they used fountain pens in the past, they must have been serviceable and functional.
I figured that the ink I use is up to me to supply.
Plasticy pens seem to stop working and dry out more often than not.
I figured it would last longer than a plastic pen. I would be less inclined to lose it.
It doesn't take a scientist to figure that a fountain pen is better in the long run.
Notice how there are no brands, products or ideas here given to me from large fountain pen manufacturers. At least I have not listened to any. In fact, I just picked the pen from a writing website practically disregarding the brand to come to a decision. It had a price that seemed reasonable. Of course, the marketing of the manufacturers would have affected this site too, limiting my choices.
But what has my logic confirmed to this date? To this day that pen still works and I have not got through my first ink pot. That's like 4 years and many more to come. It's a cheap fountain pen too. I use it pretty regularly.
I'd say that the profit made by my pens suppliers outweighs my own profit of this pen. That is all what matters.
In regard to my trackball, I was using the category of mouse that used a ball and one that used a laser. So I did some research on wrist pain and found it could be medically diagnosed to be rooted from RSI and computer usage.
I looked up RSI and found that there is a product category for people who suffer from these. That category was Trackpad. So I looked these up and there we have it.
I figure that you should put it into your psyche that you avoid letting people telling you what a particular instance of product you need. They have power over you in that way, you need to reduce it into a category and then you're not hypnotised.
If a brand is the only owner of a cateogyr, then you have to be suspicious.
I understand your point, it may be true of certain things.
I found the cheapest laptop I could find at the time. In the past all my computer have been bought by untechnical people and they were cheap. I honestly think the software is more important.
I do not have a personal entertainment player, I read books.
I dislike Adobe products. I dislike Apple products. I know what they are.
I cannot drive and I use public transport. I am apathetic for motor vehicles.
I buy cheap clothes. A pair of jeans is jeans whatever way you look at it.
The way my life is arranged is that I put products into categories. Nobody can tell me what category a product is in. A cheap plasticy pen is NOT a fountain pen. An optical mouse is NOT a trackball.
Honestly it's the only differentiation you need. It means you can stop comparing different brands products and learn about the categories that solve your problem.
I use an old fashioned phone with buttons not a modern phone with a touchscreen. I still maintain I am immune.
If you understand what a product IS based on what it IS and HOW it does it, then you only need to see businesses as 'providers' for a category of product. I couldn't care less what brand my fountan pen is.
It is definitely a science like you say but it doesn't mean you cannot learn the science yourself. It's called 'reality cracking' and it's absolutely fascinating:
The idea behind reality cracking is that if you can begin to understand how the adverts work, you can become more aware and wise to how supermarkets, adverts abuse and play on you.
If I do not see the adverts, I am more unlikely to buy them. I do not see adverts on TV because I don't watch it, I don't see them online either. I also read to become aware of the tricks. It saves me more time this way.
I don't have an iPhone. I don't have a Mac, I try buy products that advertise less (like unheard of brands). I am a simpleton.
I will talk in regard to my own country, the UK to represent my point without any bias towards America.
If my country moves towards recycling and attempting to produce more serviceable electronics rather than consumer electronics, the localized impact will be less. Less waste will need to be disposed of in the UK. We'll adapt our processes and technologies to handle the unmaintainable produce from other countries that we inevitably import. It would reduce the number of landfill or incinerators needed to handle waste.
Just because it won't solve the world problem if UK (far from it) starts being more responsible for the waste it produces, doesn't mean we should not try. The local benefits will be worth it.
This seems like a marketing decision to me, it's to protect the mindshare of Firefox in everyday people's minds.
Is it really Firefox's responsibility to hide bugs from users?
This sounds like Microsoft's perspective on compatibility*. If you ask me, it would have protected the user experience if Firefox did not update the crash detection. If a Flash application is sluggish and bringing the computer to a halt, it is poorly programmed. Making the slow to respond Flash plugin highly visible should force Zygna to fix the problem, increasing the web experience for all.
It's ridiculous case of a problem being overblown. In perspective, it's like a television manufacturer fixing the stream of a particular television channel because it is incorrect. Firefox should not be protecting third party website owners from their mistakes. Second they should not be protecting poorly coded third party plugins. That is why we have the crash protection to begin with! It's the same reason why too many content producers give up with standards because invalid code 'just works'. Where is the incentive to get things right?
The crash protection is like the halting problem but could be wrapped up into something reasonable to make the web easier to use. If your Flash is unresponsive for 30 seconds, I am going to get angry. Bye bye!
ActionScript programmers really have no clue what polling really means for performance.
*Microsoft contend with thousands of compatibility patches for third party applications that run on their platfor, written by people doing it wrong.. This is because people make mistakes and they want to protect their product. Unfortunately it increases complexity and keeps the industry in a methodological infancy -- bandaids rather than really learning from our mistakes.
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This is like the GPL libraries. If your project uses a GPL product, does it become GPLed too (and you want distribute it)? Yes, it does. Why you should not use the LGPL for your library.
Essentially, you're using Wordpress as a library, which is GPL and not LGPL. It makes sense, it's just your (and my) perceptions of what constitute as data and code is blurred with templates. You'd think they'd be a data structure but they're actually code. It's the same in Joomla too: most templates I have read have to copy and paste lots of code from the default templates to get the same basic behaviour.
So they use Wordpress as a library and they then "become" GPL or they're violating.
In Wordpress the templates are PHP calls to functions, so it is basically a contribution to the codebase in itself. It's not a templating language what you would expect.
Not that I understand GPL or Wordpress but that sounds like the logic.
I honestly don't see how CSS could become GPLed though.
Good point. The market will learn to adapt to this I reckon.
If someone makes a plugin (that is GPLed) that reads another form of file (which has nothing to do with the original Wordpress codebase) and is a *true* template language which uses SUBSTITUTIONS like {post_title} and {post_body} rather than get_post_body();
currently templates are PHP coded, they should not. It's bad design to begin with and quite obvious why it inherits the GPL.
Surely this new template engine would not be infected by the GPL as the new plugin is only a READER of another format. The plugin itself would have to be GPL but the files it reads would not ;-)
Otherwise the logic would be that someone who makes a database plugin to talk to a database, say Oracle and then Oracle DOES NOT become open source, which is stupid.
My question to you is why do they appreciate it?
Don't you think it's wrong to enjoy that content? I know censorship does not work and to believe in free speech you have to permit the stuff you do not approve of (I am an avid freenet user. I know this.)
It reminds me of the story about a man who thought he could bring back to life a dead young girl by giving it cunningulus. In his world, it was not evil.
There is someting inherently evil and sickening about the human soul. I will never understand it. I don't know how to express my fear and condemnation of people who enjoy violence. It goes against everything a living thing should stand for.
Except for eating.
I feel an equivalent fury and rage when people enjoy violence and depictions of death. It's not human. It's like people who watch Saw and torture porn. How can you enjoy that?
Censorship is obviously the wrong answer because it doesn't work but it would enrage the idiots. People should be self-censoring of this shit. This stuff should have been bred out of us from the days when we enjoyed executions and live brutality.
To enjoy death is not something to be taken lightly.
I wish someone would take rotten.com down.
People should NOT be able to see that stuff. I remember a long time ago when it was popular among kids.
The world would be a little less screwed up if stuff like that was less available.
That's a good idea, vlm.
I have had an idea I want to try:
Create an application and use this to represent yourself (give it my name). Essentially you can collect all the data about your friends with less of the risks.
You can use it to message your friends and write on their walls. hopefully your friends are dumb enough to give permission "Your Name wants to write on your wall".
Me to. Have considered this for a while. Never been comfortable with how much they know about us.
Can anybody recommend a good paid email host?
It's not going to be fun changing all my account's email addresses but could set up a redirection while still changing over. It's not as if I even use the Gmail interface, which is slow.
It's a logitech trackman. I am looking for others as I have only been using the 'thumb trackballs'. I want to try a 'finger trackall'.
his own invention...It's just an interpretation of the patent. The code is its own creative work. Judging by these posts, it boils down to a mathematic function.
Two individuals can invent things simultaneously and separately. While one might get credit, they both invented it.
Not that the law seems to take this into account. SNAFU
Woops, mixed a few words a bit there. Should say OS next to schedule and should say how instead of who.
Hopefully nobody notices that I am actually a turing complete AI. Sometimes a bit flips, you know, Celerons. Fortunately I patented myself.
I have no idea who it works but what if one was more accurate than the other? It could be a difference in the comparison function? The lookup in a central database maybe?
I imagine they will look completely different. Different coding styles notwithstanding but the general coding approach taking for each including datastructures, design, lookup.
For example the window size may be different making one slower and one faster? Another example is OS or browsers. How does each browser schedule? They both have the same job but do it differently. Even ones in the same cateogory (round robin, least recently used or whatever) they may very well be implemented differently that gives them different characteristics.
Forgot to say, I'm enjoying your music. I like the ambience!
Do you take donations?
So very well said.
Companies should be subject to the same laws that individuals are bound by, without all the inappropriate benefits.
My point was not that people use a personal entertainment player OR books. It was more of a 'in place of'. It was that I do not need a personal entertainment player if I have books to keep me entertained. No advertising will convince me otherwise. I don't need a ebook reader either. I want to own my books.
That's fast.
What made you buy 'Levis' to begin with? Was it the wimminz in the adverts? Actually, I don't even know if that's the right brand. Do they have grayed out adverts? Oh well, either way. I will not buy that product. I'll use more 'materialistic' guides on whether to buy a product. Perhaps trying it on to see if it fits? Is there enough room if I put on weight? Is there pockets?
It's right in there with the perfume adverts: how can a perfume have an 'image'? It's a smell and it cannot be represented by an advert.
It's not prejudice. Maybe there is more intangible benefits to products like product image. If so, I'm not falling for it. If you like speeding about in your roadster at 140mph, so be it. That's the image that's comfortable with you. Me? It gives me a uncomfortable feeling of selling out.
That should say trackball, not trackpad.
Woops.
That's a very good point.
I figured that they used fountain pens in the past, they must have been serviceable and functional.
I figured that the ink I use is up to me to supply.
Plasticy pens seem to stop working and dry out more often than not.
I figured it would last longer than a plastic pen. I would be less inclined to lose it.
It doesn't take a scientist to figure that a fountain pen is better in the long run.
Notice how there are no brands, products or ideas here given to me from large fountain pen manufacturers. At least I have not listened to any. In fact, I just picked the pen from a writing website practically disregarding the brand to come to a decision. It had a price that seemed reasonable. Of course, the marketing of the manufacturers would have affected this site too, limiting my choices.
But what has my logic confirmed to this date? To this day that pen still works and I have not got through my first ink pot. That's like 4 years and many more to come. It's a cheap fountain pen too. I use it pretty regularly.
I'd say that the profit made by my pens suppliers outweighs my own profit of this pen. That is all what matters.
In regard to my trackball, I was using the category of mouse that used a ball and one that used a laser. So I did some research on wrist pain and found it could be medically diagnosed to be rooted from RSI and computer usage.
I looked up RSI and found that there is a product category for people who suffer from these. That category was Trackpad. So I looked these up and there we have it.
I figure that you should put it into your psyche that you avoid letting people telling you what a particular instance of product you need. They have power over you in that way, you need to reduce it into a category and then you're not hypnotised.
If a brand is the only owner of a cateogyr, then you have to be suspicious.
I understand your point, it may be true of certain things.
I found the cheapest laptop I could find at the time. In the past all my computer have been bought by untechnical people and they were cheap. I honestly think the software is more important.
I do not have a personal entertainment player, I read books.
I dislike Adobe products. I dislike Apple products. I know what they are.
I cannot drive and I use public transport. I am apathetic for motor vehicles.
I buy cheap clothes. A pair of jeans is jeans whatever way you look at it.
The way my life is arranged is that I put products into categories. Nobody can tell me what category a product is in. A cheap plasticy pen is NOT a fountain pen. An optical mouse is NOT a trackball.
Honestly it's the only differentiation you need. It means you can stop comparing different brands products and learn about the categories that solve your problem.
I use an old fashioned phone with buttons not a modern phone with a touchscreen. I still maintain I am immune.
If you understand what a product IS based on what it IS and HOW it does it, then you only need to see businesses as 'providers' for a category of product. I couldn't care less what brand my fountan pen is.
Most people are hypnotized by branding.
It is definitely a science like you say but it doesn't mean you cannot learn the science yourself. It's called 'reality cracking' and it's absolutely fascinating:
http://www.searchlores.org/realicra/realicra.htm
The idea behind reality cracking is that if you can begin to understand how the adverts work, you can become more aware and wise to how supermarkets, adverts abuse and play on you.
If I do not see the adverts, I am more unlikely to buy them. I do not see adverts on TV because I don't watch it, I don't see them online either. I also read to become aware of the tricks. It saves me more time this way.
I don't have an iPhone. I don't have a Mac, I try buy products that advertise less (like unheard of brands). I am a simpleton.
The complete opposite influence they want me to have maybe?
I don't understand your comment.
What if I am NOT influenced by adverts, do not click them and avoid the products mentioned within them?
Surely they lose nothing if I just block silently, it would never have influenced me anyway. How common is paying by impression?
I will talk in regard to my own country, the UK to represent my point without any bias towards America.
If my country moves towards recycling and attempting to produce more serviceable electronics rather than consumer electronics, the localized impact will be less. Less waste will need to be disposed of in the UK. We'll adapt our processes and technologies to handle the unmaintainable produce from other countries that we inevitably import. It would reduce the number of landfill or incinerators needed to handle waste.
Just because it won't solve the world problem if UK (far from it) starts being more responsible for the waste it produces, doesn't mean we should not try. The local benefits will be worth it.
Pojut was not trolling. He's right.
3.5k sounds like you're ~30-40ish miles from London.
Have you considered a coach service? It was like 500 cheaper for me!
I am a heavy tab user too. Opera handles 100s of tabs better than firefox IMHO. The most I had in Opera was 412.
In Firefox I tend to hover between 80-150
When you have Tree Style Tabs, having hundreds of tabs is easier than you think to manage.
It means I multitask a lot which may be ineffective. I just dislike abandoning a resource or website I was reading to quickly do something else.
This seems like a marketing decision to me, it's to protect the mindshare of Firefox in everyday people's minds.
Is it really Firefox's responsibility to hide bugs from users?
This sounds like Microsoft's perspective on compatibility*. If you ask me, it would have protected the user experience if Firefox did not update the crash detection. If a Flash application is sluggish and bringing the computer to a halt, it is poorly programmed. Making the slow to respond Flash plugin highly visible should force Zygna to fix the problem, increasing the web experience for all.
It's ridiculous case of a problem being overblown. In perspective, it's like a television manufacturer fixing the stream of a particular television channel because it is incorrect. Firefox should not be protecting third party website owners from their mistakes. Second they should not be protecting poorly coded third party plugins. That is why we have the crash protection to begin with! It's the same reason why too many content producers give up with standards because invalid code 'just works'. Where is the incentive to get things right?
The crash protection is like the halting problem but could be wrapped up into something reasonable to make the web easier to use. If your Flash is unresponsive for 30 seconds, I am going to get angry. Bye bye!
ActionScript programmers really have no clue what polling really means for performance.
*Microsoft contend with thousands of compatibility patches for third party applications that run on their platfor, written by people doing it wrong.. This is because people make mistakes and they want to protect their product. Unfortunately it increases complexity and keeps the industry in a methodological infancy -- bandaids rather than really learning from our mistakes.