--Evidently you didn't read the article. Theo was told that certain people in DARPA admin were "very uncomfortable" with his comments.
> In a phone call a few days ago it was expressed to me that there were people inside DARPA and UPENN who were very uncomfortable with the article, but I was not told specifically what upset them.
--Although it must be said, that Theo displayed remarkable thick-headedness by making those remarks in the 1st place, considering the source of the money.
> I expect there will be a significant discount on future licenses, a large penalty payment or a very high profile public relations disaster for Microsoft.
--THAT's why I recognized your name, Brett... FYI, this guy used to have a pretty cool site a few years ago called YMMV (your mileage may vary) and then its services were discontinued. Man that brings back some memories.
--Naw, it isn't... It's just that since "Out Cold ( http://us.imdb.com/Title?0253798 ) came out, Casablanca remakes are no longer necessary anymore.;-)
--I just made my own little Web page with all the sites I go to on a daily/frequent basis, and posted it on free site providers. My current one is on Tripod.
--The company I used to work for *used* to be privately held. It was a great place to work. Then, shortly after I left, they sold their souls to Wall Street.
--Now they've outsourced almost everything, the management is evil, morale is in the toilet and the whole place is so bad from what I've heard (former coworkers that are still trapped there) - I wouldn't go back for TRIPLE what I used to make there. It's not worth the hassle.
--If you can make it on your own as a privately-held company, DO IT!! Don't sell out! Because if you do, unless you get a sweetheart deal like the Slashdot boys did, control of your company will almost invariably be taken away from you - and the end result is that it's no longer a company worth working for, or doing business with.
--This could be a massive security hole, too. Imagine the government van in your neighborhood getting an IP in all the confusion, and you never know it.
--To me, this kind of network assembly is irresponsible. Give me static internal IP's any day. Then at least you know exactly which boxes are on your net.
--You have a point. However, I'll play devil's advocate 1st, then offer my own opinion.
--This guy's particular action could fall under the "no harm, no foul" rule. Yes, he used somebody else's bandwidth w/o compensation, but there was no REAL PROPERTY infringed upon. In other words, "nothing" was "stolen" except Time and Bits(ok, Bytes if you want to extend it that far.) The received content was a freely available driver, not sensitive information or code. Nobody was attacked or "harmed" in Real Life. If the "owner" isn't paying by the minute and has no cap on how much s/he can grab off the Net, it's basically a "free" download. Even with 22Meg, the owner will never notice.
--HOWEVER, this is assuming a LOT of things. This is why "Wireless Theft" cases should be judged on a case-by-case basis. Along with this, ALL wireless access should be encrypted, and locked-down by DEFAULT. If you want to give it away for free, post a sign outside your building with the access codes.
--Now for my opinion. The wireless manufacturers were incredibly boneheaded in releasing insecure wireless technology on the unsuspecting public. This story is one reason I'm still using good old 100MBit Cat5/e cable with a 24-port switch connected to my DSL, and believe me - I'm not even considering wireless any time soon. Period. I'm giving the tech another couple of years to mature, because I've been through a couple of mildly bad experiences (Form virus on my 286 [I didn't even have a MODEM! Came through on a borrowed floppy], and getting files put on one of my servers due to anonymous ftp access - locked down now.)
--I use (and prefer) dynamic IP on my DSL. Killing my connection when I'm done with it gives me a great deal of satisfaction.;-) I've never used crap like Kazaa, and I have no interest in using my conn as a server. Some may say I'm hopelessly behind the times; but then again - nobody likes being cr4x0r3d.
--then don't EVER rent "The Stupids (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0117768)" - it sucked so bad, I forcibly ejected the rented(!) tape, set it on fire, and threw it THROUGH the plate-glass window. . . .
--Okay, well maybe I didn't do all *that* but it + The Avengers are among the WORST movies of All Time.
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4. Profi[**THWACK**] -- Ow!!! Okay, okay!
--Evidently you didn't read the article. Theo was told that certain people in DARPA admin were "very uncomfortable" with his comments.
> In a phone call a few days ago it was expressed to me that there were people inside DARPA and UPENN who were very uncomfortable with the
article, but I was not told specifically what upset them.
--Although it must be said, that Theo displayed remarkable thick-headedness by making those remarks in the 1st place, considering the source of the money.
> I expect there will be a significant discount on future licenses, a large penalty payment or a very high profile public relations disaster for Microsoft.
--Can we possibly hope for all of the above??
--Naw, it's only a matter of time until somebody ports NETBSD to run on it. :b
+1 Informative
.dotgoeshere
--Yep, when I first saw this article, my first thought was "oh, man - this is WAY OVERKILL for a stupid TV remote..."
--Meh, they probably did it just for the "wow-it-runs-linux-i-NEEDIT" geek factor. [/cynicism]
--THAT's why I recognized your name, Brett... FYI, this guy used to have a pretty cool site a few years ago called YMMV (your mileage may vary) and then its services were discontinued. Man that brings back some memories.
--Check your squid.conf, and look for # TAG: maximum_object_size (bytes)
# Objects larger than this size will NOT be saved on disk.
# maximum_object_size 4096 KB
maximum_object_size 32767 KB
--LUDICROUS SPEED!!
.dotgoesheretoavoidthestupidlamenessfilter
"They've gone Plaid!!"
--Naw, it isn't... It's just that since "Out Cold ( http://us.imdb.com/Title?0253798 ) came out, Casablanca remakes are no longer necessary anymore. ;-)
--I LMAO at some parts of KJ. And Estella Warren is a *total* hottie. :b
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Warren,%20Estella
--My favorite part of the movie is when Anthony Anderson moans, "And now he hoppin' awayhey..."
--Bookmarks? Who needs bookmarks?
--I just made my own little Web page with all the sites I go to on a daily/frequent basis, and posted it on free site providers. My current one is on Tripod.
--One of my favorite T-shirts ever seen:
"STOP PLATE TECTONICS"
--I laughed my butt off when I saw that...
--The company I used to work for *used* to be privately held. It was a great place to work. Then, shortly after I left, they sold their souls to Wall Street.
--Now they've outsourced almost everything, the management is evil, morale is in the toilet and the whole place is so bad from what I've heard (former coworkers that are still trapped there) - I wouldn't go back for TRIPLE what I used to make there. It's not worth the hassle.
--If you can make it on your own as a privately-held company, DO IT!! Don't sell out! Because if you do, unless you get a sweetheart deal like the Slashdot boys did, control of your company will almost invariably be taken away from you - and the end result is that it's no longer a company worth working for, or doing business with.
--The XBox Linux thing is a nice project concept, but it's overkill for this guy.
--This could be a massive security hole, too. Imagine the government van in your neighborhood getting an IP in all the confusion, and you never know it.
--To me, this kind of network assembly is irresponsible. Give me static internal IP's any day. Then at least you know exactly which boxes are on your net.
--You have a point. However, I'll play devil's advocate 1st, then offer my own opinion.
;-) I've never used crap like Kazaa, and I have no interest in using my conn as a server. Some may say I'm hopelessly behind the times; but then again - nobody likes being cr4x0r3d.
--This guy's particular action could fall under the "no harm, no foul" rule. Yes, he used somebody else's bandwidth w/o compensation, but there was no REAL PROPERTY infringed upon. In other words, "nothing" was "stolen" except Time and Bits(ok, Bytes if you want to extend it that far.) The received content was a freely available driver, not sensitive information or code. Nobody was attacked or "harmed" in Real Life. If the "owner" isn't paying by the minute and has no cap on how much s/he can grab off the Net, it's basically a "free" download. Even with 22Meg, the owner will never notice.
--HOWEVER, this is assuming a LOT of things. This is why "Wireless Theft" cases should be judged on a case-by-case basis. Along with this, ALL wireless access should be encrypted, and locked-down by DEFAULT. If you want to give it away for free, post a sign outside your building with the access codes.
--Now for my opinion. The wireless manufacturers were incredibly boneheaded in releasing insecure wireless technology on the unsuspecting public. This story is one reason I'm still using good old 100MBit Cat5/e cable with a 24-port switch connected to my DSL, and believe me - I'm not even considering wireless any time soon. Period. I'm giving the tech another couple of years to mature, because I've been through a couple of mildly bad experiences (Form virus on my 286 [I didn't even have a MODEM! Came through on a borrowed floppy], and getting files put on one of my servers due to anonymous ftp access - locked down now.)
--I use (and prefer) dynamic IP on my DSL. Killing my connection when I'm done with it gives me a great deal of satisfaction.
--You could always 'dd' the floppy to a file on HD, and run it thru VMWare. :)
--then don't EVER rent "The Stupids (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0117768)" - it sucked so bad, I forcibly ejected the rented(!) tape, set it on fire, and threw it THROUGH the plate-glass window.
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--Okay, well maybe I didn't do all *that* but it + The Avengers are among the WORST movies of All Time.
...especially if you use a decent browser, like Opera - and turn off image loading.
(yes I know Netscape/Mozilla can do this too.)
--Once you buy the CPU, the only thing stopping you from overclocking is the certainty of voiding your warranty. If you don't care, Go There.
--In Soviet Nevada, WORM eats YOU!
:P
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0100814
D00d, I HATE when that happens!
"Mom, the Universe is fux0r3d again... Can I reboot it?"
"Sure honey..."
--There are generally two types of "hats" in the community; black hats and white hats.
--What this idiot did makes him an ASSHAT in my world. He should be jailed for this stupid stunt when they catch him.
--Some people's kids, I swear...
> If you live in a country side (I don't know, Texas?), it can take hours for tech guy to get your house...
;-)
--Texas is practically a country unto itself; hadn't you heard?