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The Ethics of Stealing Wireless Bandwidth?

sjwoo asks: "So I was over at a friend's apartment yesterday, in an attempt to fix up her computer (goodbye, buggy Windows ME, hello somewhat less buggy Windows XP). I had most of the updates already on CD, so the only one that caused me grief was a new driver for her HP printer, which was 22MB. Her Internet connectivity was provided by AOL dialup, and because we had to be in class, I had to do what I could to hurry things along. I found an unprotected (i.e., no WEP, no MAC-address protection) WLAN and sucked down that file at over 200Kb/sec. Was I wrong to steal?"

"At home over my cable modem, downloading this file would have taken a couple of eyeblinks, but as I clicked on the download over her AOL connection, I saw that the ETA turned from 45 minutes to 68 minutes to 94 minutes! I had less than 10 minutes, so I did what a few of you might do: I turned on my wireless laptop and looked around the apartment building in search of a connection.

Later, I considered the ethical aspects of my action. I kinda felt a little guilty for tapping into this guy's connection. Surely it's possible that he wanted to have an open network to provide strangers in brief need of broadband connectivity, but most likely, he's just some person who doesn't quite know what he's doing."

145 comments

  1. fp? by kndnice · · Score: 0

    fp?

  2. I wouldn't think twice about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they didn't want you to use it, they would put even the most basic security on it.

    When you set up your wireless device it will ask you if you want security, etc. If these folks clicked through and didn't select any security, that's their problem.

    Imagine a neighborhood where leaving your door open means anybody can come in and have a beer. Now imagine some new folks show up and don't realize that leaving your door open is an invitation. So they leave the door open and go to work. Since you have no way of knowing if they opened their door to let you in, or if they opened their door by mistake, I don't think it's unethical to waltz in and have a beer.

    This isn't yet cut and dried when it comes to courts and the law, but since there are many folks out there who run open networks on purpose, I think it's a good rule of thumb and I hope it's upheld by the legal system.

    Also, don't forget that many systems (such as OS X) will automatically connect to the best network. If they don't use WEP, and they don't turn off beacon announcements, how the heck do you even KNOW that you're on their network if you don't check?

    1. Re:I wouldn't think twice about it by stevew · · Score: 1

      That is a DUMB reply -

      If I don't lock my car - are you allowed to steal it?
      If I don't lock my house - is that an invitation for you to come help yourself to my belongings?

      There is not difference here.

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    2. Re:I wouldn't think twice about it by Guspaz · · Score: 1

      You just ignored his entire analogy. In the society he described, you ARE allowed to go into an unlocked house to have a beer -- it's the accepted norm.

    3. Re:I wouldn't think twice about it by jhunsake · · Score: 1

      Yes and Yes. Where do you park your car? Where do you live? I'll be right over.

    4. Re:I wouldn't think twice about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actaully your reply is pretty dumb.

      saying "i didn't realize i couldn't use this car" is a lame excuse, but i'd say it works for wireless since there are plenty of public hotspots.

      the law isn't based on absolutes or analogies. it's based on what's fair and just in a given situation. it's perfectly reasonable that if this guy was hauled into court he could use that as excuse.

      here's a better analogy: if you have a plot of land and there's no fence around it, how the heck would anybody know it's not for public use? they would have to make a guess, based on previous experiences, whether they thought it was likely the land owner didn't want people to use it.

    5. Re:I wouldn't think twice about it by aoteoroa · · Score: 1

      The AC used an analogy of an imaginary world to prove that it is ok to steal bandwidth in the real world. TPol might say that it was a specious argument. It sounds correct but isn't.

      In theory there is no difference between theory and practice

      In reality there is.

    6. Re:I wouldn't think twice about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no analogies necessary. let's stick with reality. in this world, it's not always the case that using an OPEN, UNPROTECTED network on PUBLIC airwaves in an UNLICENSED band which was set up VOLUNTARILY and KNOWNINGLY by someone is any kind of "theft". Maybe in a moral sense, but hopefully not in a legal sense.

      Heck, I bet this guy was standing inside of private property that he was allowed to be on, using his own laptop.

      It's not theft every time somebody consumes something of value without paying somebody for it. Maybe in a "capitalistic micropayment police state".....

    7. Re:I wouldn't think twice about it by Deanasc · · Score: 1

      Exactly and if that land is next to a public park the you should expect a few visitors once in a while.

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    8. Re:I wouldn't think twice about it by sexysasian · · Score: 1

      Are you American or Canadian?

    9. Re:I wouldn't think twice about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I don't lock my car - are you allowed to steal it?

      Only if you fill up the tank afterwards, and bring it back before I notice it is missing.

    10. Re:I wouldn't think twice about it by FroMan · · Score: 1

      The internet is not the neighborhood you describe. You are not authorized to use my resources just because I don't secure them properly.

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    11. Re:I wouldn't think twice about it by stevew · · Score: 1

      You aren't talking about what the original poster was considering, i.e. someone who ignorantly put up a wireless network, without knowing how to lock it.

      That is distinctly different from someone who puts up a network with full knowledge and intent of providing a free service.

      This is a BIG different even though there is no practical differece as far as the user is concerned.

      It is morally incorrect to steal things that aren't yours. If someone is giving it away intentionally, that isn't stealing.

      If I open my house for people to sleep in,and offer it's contents for the public to take - then that is my choice. If, on the other hand, I forgot to lock the door, and the neighborhood decides to move in and take my stuff - that is stealing. You are trying to make a black and white situation gray - Stealing is wrong - pretty simple isn't it.

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    12. Re:I wouldn't think twice about it by Guspaz · · Score: 1

      A Canadian. Who locks his doors :p

  3. Dunno.... by questionlp · · Score: 1

    Leaving a WiFi network wide open without any security precautions or leaving it at the manufacturer's default is like leaving all of your doors and windows open and unlocked. Probably would have been better if you had asked the person if it was okay to borrow their network (like if you needed to borrow one's phone to call a tow truck).

    That's just my thought...

    1. Re:Dunno.... by Nathan+Ramella · · Score: 1
      'Your honor, the access point was just ASKING for it.. It was sittin' there with no WEP on, just sashaying packets back and forth..'

      Yeah. That sounds ethical.

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    2. Re:Dunno.... by FreeLinux · · Score: 1

      Here we go again with the pathetic locks/doors analogy. So, going by your post, the next time you leave your doors or windows open I, or anyone else, is free to use your home as they please?

      Some how, I think you would have a real issue if I were to take over your place for an afternoon.

      Hmm, what's this in the fridge? Oops, didn't mean to spill that on your carpet, awe screw it. You know, I prefer the sofa over here. Hey, nice disco shirt! I'll just borrow it for a while. Oooh!!! Killer laptop, I guess if you needed it you would have taken it with you or locked the door. Well, I'll take it. Thanks.

      TTFN

    3. Re:Dunno.... by questionlp · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying that it's okay... but rather it would be close to waltzing into an unlocked home and using their TV or the phone, or just taking stuff. I know, it's an overused and a bad analogy... but it was the only thing I could think of as a point of discussion.

    4. Re:Dunno.... by clifyt · · Score: 1

      I don't believe its the equivelent of leaving your doors and windows open -- its the equivelent of putting a sign up saying 'Hey Use My Restroom If You Need To...And Then Get Out".

      I personally don't see anything wrong with this...I have 512k DSL and no bandwidth cap (I explained to the guys threatening to cap it that the reason I have 512 over the 198k was that I needed business class DSL). I run a wireless line unsecured -- I actually VPN my powerbook and my G4...so I don't have to worry. Anyone that wants to use my lines are more than welcome if they want to stop infront and pull up a wireless connection -- hell friends do it occasionally...I'll see a friends car sitting outside occasionally :)

      Seriously, if someone has an unsecured wireless, use it. Don't transmit anything ya need to worry about (or better yet, set up a VPN between your home server) and don't waste too much bandwidth. Personally I don't care if someone asks or not -- maybe I should set up iChat w/ Rendevous so people CAN ask if they are that anal about the whole thing, but I don't care...and if I do, I just shut off anything but the MAC addresses I have authenticated (or pull the plug).

      clif

    5. Re:Dunno.... by TitaniumFox · · Score: 1

      While you may protect your data with your VPN, and it's nice to have a little drive-up internet access for your friends, I wouldn't say that personal data is my main concern, given those things are in place.

      Think about what could be outgoing instead of incoming, and what that could mean to you, the owner of that IP address, and ultimately the responsible party for the traffic originating from it. Someone drives up, pauses for a little while, and:

      1. Sends spam from your IP
      2. Hacks something from your IP
      3. Unleashes an IRC bot DDOS, with the command originating from your IP

      The secret service follows up on every threat against the president, and if some spoofed e-mail stating that you thought it would be a good idea to do just that might equate to a visit from the black helicopters and men in sunglasses. Would you be able to say that you didn't send it? Perhaps. ...after they confiscate your computers and search through your hard drives and question your dog and kitchen sink...

      Is it likely? Probably not, but considering that escaping the law is paramount to a h4x0r, wiping it off on Joe Luser via wireless would be pretty attractive. Sure, after it all gets straightened out and they let you out of Room 101, the only thing that may show up is that some unidentified MAC address popped up on your AP and sent it.

      Come to think of it... now they may want to question your friends who use the AP to see if they own the card with the MAC address.

      In all, I think an unsecured AP in the wild can open the owner of said AP up to some scary legal areas.

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    6. Re:Dunno.... by Directrix1 · · Score: 1

      Well, frankly I don't believe he was doing anything wrong to the owner of the service, i.e. He's not pressing charges and its more than likely that it did not disrupt him in any ways or render his service unusable. But the poster may have violated the service agreement that the unintentional host agreed to, and that would be wrong.

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    7. Re:Dunno.... by jantheman · · Score: 1

      Here's a better anaolgy...

      I assume that in your 'neck of the woods' that it's typically flat-rate net access (e.g. not by per Mb). I would suggest it's more like 'oh dear, my frisbee has fallen into your garden. You're not around/not going to possibly notice me- but if you do, sure I'll back off. So I pop in, 'trespassing on private grounds', pick it up, & out'
      - no harm, no one (probably) loses out - all is happy. ....well, it's better/more altruistic than the 'locked doors' analogy.

      & yes, if you can get into mine, & I'm not awake, I couldn't give a fuck

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    8. Re:Dunno.... by jantheman · · Score: 1

      & yes. I'm currently pissed as a fart, updating databases in thr office, its 5am , wanna play cs & currently think my opinion's better than anyone elses.

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    9. Re:Dunno.... by clifyt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The same thing could be said of a pay phone...or going to a REAL airport as these things are becoming popular diversions while waiting on a plane (while flying late last year, I pulled out the iBook only to see 2 seperate networks available that I could access my email for free).

      The point is that we shouldn't have to worry about every little probably that can arrise by criminals. Should I install bulletproof glass on all my windows? If I don't, am I liable for anyone in my house that gets shot in a drive by shooting? Its rediculous that criminals can get away with so much, but when it involves computers and they are hauled away, Slashdoties get all up in arms about the punishment not fitting the crime. Bullshit...if you misuse someone elses property, there is not maximum punishment large enough.

      There are enough anonymous places to do this stuff from these days...maybe I should just put up my X10 Cam (err...older model...I stopped buying from them once they went all nutty a few years ago with the spam) out and capture the license plates of everyone that uses it...but if I did that, I'm sure someone would post a note about it saying I was oppressin' them or something.

      clif

    10. Re:Dunno.... by TitaniumFox · · Score: 1

      On the whole, I agree with you. The abundance of anonymous places that offer wireless is rising. If I were hacking via wireless, I'd want to be in a public place, as it is less suspecious.

      I wasn't arguing an analogy (ie. bulletproof glass, etc) or comparing computer crime to meat-space crime. I'm stating one of the reasons why I don't run a wide open web, and I think that the risks are legitimate, although not widespread. I trust most of my friends who use wireless, and they could have a node on my network anytime. On the other hand, I live in a university town. What does that have to do with anything? Our EE/CE/CS departments are pretty strong and have a long and proud history of pranks. Additionally, there are lots of kids with lots of free time.

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  4. Karma police by lowtekneq · · Score: 1

    The only way that I could see this as being "wrong" is if this guy was paying for his bandwidth usasge. Then again its kind of what con artists say about exploiting those too ignorant to know better. You also helped out a friend, I'm sure that balanced out your karma a bit : P

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    1. Re:Karma police by funkhauser · · Score: 1

      And getting this story posted helped his karma even more! Heck, he's probably in the black now!

  5. Liar! by leviramsey · · Score: 1

    You read Slashdot.

    You have a girlfriend.

    CONTRADICTION ALERT!!!!

    1. Re:Liar! by Descartes · · Score: 1

      No, it's not a contradiction.

      Hmmm, maybe it's your sig?

    2. Re:Liar! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, maybe not for you, cause you're gay and girls like hanging out with gay guys, but for almost everyone else here, yeah it's a contradiction.

    3. Re:Liar! by lowtekneq · · Score: 1

      I doubt your reasons for not having a girlfriend are not linked to reading slashdot, but rather something called your personality. Just you thinking that inteligent people do not have girlfriends marks you as rather ignorant in my book.

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    4. Re:Liar! by leviramsey · · Score: 1

      Intelligent people don't read Slashdot, either... ;o)

    5. Re:Liar! by sysadmn · · Score: 1

      But inteligent ones do, apparently.

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    6. Re:Liar! by KiahZero · · Score: 1

      What about guys who read slashdot and have girlfriends, who also read slashdot?

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    7. Re:Liar! by Descartes · · Score: 1

      Ok, I feel like a little bit of a faker because I don't currently have a girlfriend but I have read slashdot and had a girlfriend in the recent past. I have friends who read slashdot and are actually married! Listen guys, I know you think that just because you're geeks girls will never like you, but just find the geek girls and you'll be fine.

    8. Re:Liar! by yuri+benjamin · · Score: 1

      just find the geek girls and you'll be fine.

      My wife's not a geek, but I love her anyway - nobody's perfect :-)
      Fortunately I have some non-geek interests so we at least have something in common.

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  6. Legality vs. Common Sense by ewhenn · · Score: 1

    I suppose legally this falls under the unauthorized access portion of the law. For those that will say, "well, he left his wireless open so it's his problem", if you leave your car unlocked then I guess it is okay for someone to come in and take all of your change, after all you didn't lock your door. Just because you have security measures available does not mean that if you do not use them you are at fault for someone elses unauthorized access.

    That being said, any decent person, and especially someone who has moved from dial-up to broadband would probably care less if you used it for a brief moment to save a headache of a download. Seriously, would you personally care if someone did it for a moment on your wireless network if you had one (under certain conditions).

    The only thing that gets me is if this guy is on one of thoses metered broadband connections. I guess in that case it might cost him some money, another little spin on it.

    1. Re:Legality vs. Common Sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Cars isn't a good analogy, because, number one, with Wifi there are plenty of public access points or folks who leave their networks open on purpose. With a car analogy this would be like people who leave cars laying around the city for anybody to use. That's not common and wouldn't be a good excuse for cars, but maybe it would be for wifi.

      Number two, you can tell one car from another pretty easy. With computer thats automatically associate to the strongest signal, or to "any" access point, it's common to connect to the wrong network (maybe you've had problems like this, I have.. people in the next office associating with the wrong access point without realizing). This would be like if all cars were identical and we were blind, or something..

      Treat this like land: if you put a No Trespassing sign, then you can say trespassers are breaking the law, but if there are no signs, no fences, etc., you can't really blame people for cutting across your property once in a while. There are No Tresspassing signs available, everybody knows how they work, so go buy one.

      If we treat this like the car, instead of like the plot of land, I think that's a mistake.

      Also, let's say you DO want to ask permission. How do you do it? Who owns the network? How do you find out? There's an easy solution to all of this: if you don't want casual use of your network, put a password on it. Or at least name the station "GO THE FUCK AWAY" or something that makes it clear it's not open for the public.

    2. Re:Legality vs. Common Sense by Crazy+Ukrainian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The problem with the open door analogy, is that if someone steals things from your house or car, you no longer have them. Downloading through someone else's network does not cost them anything. Sure, if they were for some reason using all their bandwidth at that point you might cause a bit of lag, but then again, if they were using that much bandwidth, you wouldn't get a 200kb/s download. The only complication is if, like ewhenn said, their bandwidth usage is metered. In that case its wrong unless you pay them whatever miniscule ammount it cost.

    3. Re:Legality vs. Common Sense by ColaMan · · Score: 1

      In that case its wrong unless you pay them whatever miniscule ammount it cost

      (Checks last bill)
      Hmm.. 22MB at 15c /MB .... $3.30 ... wouldn't want *too* many people doing that, thanks.
      Just consider yourself lucky that you live in a country with cheap internet access.

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  7. Dear slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't own a television. But the other night, my neighbors had their TV on really loud and I put my ear up to the wall to listen. It was a good show on animal planet about giraffes.

    Was I wrong to steal?

    1. Re:Dear slashdot by anon+mouse-cow-aard · · Score: 2, Funny


      only if you went to the bathroom during commercials, but that's another story.

  8. Not necessarily by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know people with WiFi who intentionally leave it unencrypted as a service to their neighbors and any one in the area who might need it.Sure, its possible it may have been accidental, but chances are if they didn't bother encrypting it, they really don't mind if you use it.

    Its kind of like taking something that someone left in front of their home for the trash. Sure, technically it might be stealing, but in most areas its considered acceptable and people are more than happy to have others using the stuff they would otherwise be consigning to a landfill.

    1. Re:Not necessarily by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 1

      > I know people with WiFi who intentionally leave it unencrypted as a service
      > to their neighbors and any one in the area who might need it.

      All my neighbors are so old, they pay someone to ride their riding lawnmowers to cut the grass. I really need to move to be around younger people with money but no technical saavy.

  9. If the door's open... by gnudutch · · Score: 1

    Walk on in.

    1. Re:If the door's open... by Numeric · · Score: 1

      then you get shot for trespassing. bam. bam.

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  10. bandwidth isn't always cost free by Muggins+the+Mad · · Score: 1

    > I found an unprotected (i.e., no WEP, no MAC-address protection) WLAN and sucked down that file at over 200Kb/sec. Was I wrong to steal?"

    If you'd done that using my (hypothetical) work connection, you'd have cost us somewhere around US$1 in straight volume charges.

    So here, it'd be like stealing a dollar.

    I think there needs to be some standard developed for advertising wireless services. Terms and conditions, etc. So if you run a public free-for-all service, people can feel confident using it. If you're not intending it to be used by others, it'd be fairly obvious.

    Maybe the URL of a "terms and conditions" page could be served with the DHCP reply or something.

    - Colin

    1. Re:bandwidth isn't always cost free by Guspaz · · Score: 1

      I find it hard to believe that your work connection costs about 50$ US per gigabyte. I don't think such high costs even exist.

    2. Re:bandwidth isn't always cost free by Bitsy+Boffin · · Score: 1

      My excess bandwidth charges (I get 10g included) mean that I pay around $100US per Gig (over the cap). $50US would be a god send.

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    3. Re:bandwidth isn't always cost free by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 1


      If you're not intending it to be used by others, it'd be fairly obvious.

      Where I'm from, we call that "requiring a password." If my excess bandwidth cost me $100/G, you can sure as hell bet that I'd password protect my base-station. But, as it is, who cares? So I don't. But the problem of "recognizing permissive use" has been solved. If you fail to avail yourself of the those tools, I can't be very sorry for you.

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    4. Re:bandwidth isn't always cost free by lithiumcloud · · Score: 1

      Check this out. The 256k is what I have.
      (A New Zealand Dollar buys about 50 US cents. Joe Average earns less New Zealand dollars than Joe Average (US) earns.)

      Such prices do exist. In countries that speak English what's more.

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    5. Re:bandwidth isn't always cost free by lithiumcloud · · Score: 1

      Let me clarify that. Joe Average New Zealander earns less New Zealand Dollars than Joe Average American earns US dollars, meaning if he changed his money into New Zealand dollars he would be more than twice as rich.

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    6. Re:bandwidth isn't always cost free by unixbob · · Score: 1

      In which case it might have prompted you to take a closer look at your corporate security. It's not like this guy spent hours tring to find a backdoor into the system.

      You wouldn't leave you house unlocked all day then complain when someone wandered in and stole the milk from your fridge. Your house may come with locks or even an alarm - but you still need to lock it yourself and work out how to set the alarm.

      So why should your computer system be any different?

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    7. Re:bandwidth isn't always cost free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of a moron are you? Do you understand the difference between rate and total?

      size of the pipe vs amount of bits?

      Guess not.

    8. Re:bandwidth isn't always cost free by Guspaz · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure I understand you. He's talking about excess bandwidth charges. How does the connection speed matter? I pay about a dollar twenty US per GB on a 3.5mbit pipe. I pity the pour soul who pays 100$ for the same amount.

  11. BAM!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've gotta improve your aim. That schmuck almost got away. Good thing I was there to finish him off.

  12. Simply put. by FreeLinux · · Score: 1

    It's petty theft. Some what akin to grabbing an apple from the cart, as you pass a green grocer's shop.

    It is theft. It is wrong. But, the value is so low that the authorities are not going to attempt to enforce the law in such cases. You therefore, become a nuisance to the grocer and in the future he either hits you in the head with a broom or he moves his apple cart back inside the store.

    The same applies to this persons bandwidth. If they feel that they have suffered a loss they will make an effort to prevent it in the future. Perhaps they will learn something about securing wireless access points. In your case, since you seem to have a conscience, don't do it any more. But, don't lose any sleep over this incident.

    1. Re:Simply put. by benh57 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But you don't know that it was theft. In fact, since there are many FREE access points, open to ALL on purpose, one could reasonably argue in a court of law that since he didn't take the (two clicks!) necessary to protect his network, it was a reasonable assumption to assume the AP was one of those free access points. I would equate it more to picking up a flyer from a stack of coupon flyers left sitting on top of a news rack, or a diner counter. That could have been a stack of flyers just copied by someone at Kinkos, and left 'unlocked' out there in the open accidentally. (stealing!). Or, more likely, they were left there as a free promo for people to pick up.

    2. Re:Simply put. by duffbeer703 · · Score: 1

      Depends on where you live.

      In my town, a 75 year old woman was arrested for eating a peanut from the produce dep't without paying for it.

      One peanut.

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    3. Re:Simply put. by Manic+Miner · · Score: 1

      The problem with "petty crimes" is that while the real cost of the items stolen, or the damage done, is not usually significant, the effect on the people involved can sometimes be huge.

      I know people who have had their cars broken into and little or nothing stolen because there was nothing to steal. This however has ended up costing the owner £200 in various repairs. Now as far as the police are concered this is a petty crime and are not even really interested in trying to pursue it further... But the person involved is now living with quite a lot of worry of future damage to the car, has spent £400 on a car alarm to try and deter futher breakins, and is moving house to leave the area.

      Adding all this up amounts to a significant impact on this perons life, all for something that the police don't care about. Petty crime in quantity can ruin peoples lives just as much as one major crime.

      Just something to think about.

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    4. Re:Simply put. by Hard_Code · · Score: 1

      Man, she better not be in california. Three strikes grandma...

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    5. Re:Simply put. by jafuser · · Score: 1

      It could have been broken into by a thug hired by the car alarm company... =)

      "Hello Mr Johnson, we understand your vehicle was recently broken into, would you be interested in a special we're running on car alarm installations?"

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    6. Re:Simply put. by DarkZero · · Score: 1

      It's petty theft. Some what akin to grabbing an apple from the cart, as you pass a green grocer's shop.

      The problem with this is the scale of it. Almost any broadband user has way, way more bandwidth than they are going to use every day. I'd wager that almost all of them aren't even maxing out their connection every day. So rather than stealing one apple out of someone's twenty or thirty, isn't it more like taking a drink from a privately owned stream? Or using a restaurant bathroom sink to wash not only your hands, but also (God forbid!) your face? I think you can make a reasonable assumption that the person in the apartment above you isn't running on metered bandwidth unless they have an extreme amount of bandwidth, which would be pretty easy to tell. So not only is it not like stealing an object from them, but it's also a much lesser crime than stealing power from them or tapping into their phone line. It's even not just possible, but likely that they won't even have to pay an extra penny from your use of their bandwidth or feel any sort of bandwidth hit.

      At what point can you say that your theft is so utterly miniscule that it isn't really stealing any more? If there's such a point, I think that "stealing" without taking anything from anyone might be it. But then again, it might not exist at all.

  13. Well there are a few themes here... by stienman · · Score: 1

    There are a few things to consider:

    Chances are good the supplier of your fortuitious connection has an unlimited pipe.
    Chances are good that they weren't using it at the time(as attested by your connection speed)

    But the reality is that you did take something from them that they cannot get back, regardless of the fact that it didn't cost them anything extra.

    Unlike a water spigot, which is also paid for, you can connect without notice. This is the only ambiguous area. Furthermore, they are broadcasting on your property, and in a radio badn which is unregulated. In short, they didn't use adequate protection, they knowingly broadcast to you, and they would likely have no ability to prosecute you under current laws. Just because you happened to transmit packets that their network accepted and processed, and then responded to doesn't mean you did anything wrong.

    However, the ethical question is vastly different. There is a level of "I didn't know this could happen" for the user, but that doesn't completely remove their responsability. On the other hand, you knew exactly what you were doing.

    I think you have a responsability, however, to notify them. Just think of all the spam I could send out through their connection before they noticed from my car...

    -Adam

  14. It Was OK, It's His Fault by MBCook · · Score: 1

    If they leave their access point unsecure, it's their fault. If they don't want people using it, they should secure it. The WAP's owner has to more right to complain about you using his bandwidth than someone who leaves their computer unsecured on the internet has to complain that it keeps getting hacked. I understand this sounds mean, but frankly people should take responsibility for some things and not depend on others not to take advantage of a situation.

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    1. Re:It Was OK, It's His Fault by funkman · · Score: 1

      Just because I leave the keys in my car by accident doesn't give you the right to borrow my car. The owner left it open because they probably didn't know better. Ignorance is not a good excuse but its NOT a reason to be stolen from.

    2. Re:It Was OK, It's His Fault by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1
      The fact that it was (in some sense) the neighbour's fault for neglecting to secure his WLAN, does not make it ethical for someone else to access it.

      Suppose you left your car door unlocked by accident, and a total stranger decided to drive down to the local 7-11 to buy some chocolates for his girlfriend. By your argument, it is your fault because you forgot to lock the care door. And it follows that this makes it ethical for the stranger to borrow your car without asking you.

      (BTW: since you apparently think that it is ok for total strangers to borrow your stuff, would you mind letting us all know where you live? :-)

    3. Re:It Was OK, It's His Fault by DeComposer · · Score: 1

      Hmm... So, let's extrapolate your argument to human interaction, just to see what happens.

      You're saying that the WLAN owner has a responsibility to secure his WAP (a point with which I agree whole-heartedly). If, however, he happens to be ignorant of WEP security or happens to be sufficiently technically-challenged such that configuring WEP security is beyond his capability (an altogether reasonable assumption--many people lack specific knowledge of commonplace tasks, rebuilding a car engine or wiring a light fixture, for example), then using his bandwidth without his express permission is tantamount to taking advantage of a disability.

      Would you similarly consider it acceptable for someone to swindle a child out of her allowance money simply because he has more life experience?

      I agree completely that all individuals in society have a fair obligation to act responsibly. I am of the opinion, however, that responsible action means not just refraining from taking advantage of people who lack ability, but actively protecting them.

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    4. Re:It Was OK, It's His Fault by clambake · · Score: 1

      Ah, but if you leave the keys in your car parked in MY living room, I am going to assume that that means you want to share it with me. If you don't protect your wireless and it's RFing it's way into MY house, then it's a gift to me!

    5. Re:It Was OK, It's His Fault by clambake · · Score: 1

      Would you similarly consider it acceptable for someone to swindle a child out of her allowance money simply because he has more life experience?

      That's loaded becuase it uses children and swindling... How about this one... Is it acceptable, in our society, to buy someone's patent for vastly less than it's worth becuase they don't know the real value of it (perfect example may be Bill Gates and CPM)?

      But more to teh point of wireless. It's not like he has to leave his house to access the other AP. If someone is leavign his things in your house, how is it acceptable that you are not allowed to touch it? Can I store my extra boxes stuff over at your place? No, I don't even need to ask... I'll just go put them there and call you unethical if you look inside them.

      Remember the chatter that the other AP is sending it less BW for you, especially if you want to use the same channel. They are intruding into your home and limiting your own wireless access ability. The REAL question here should be "Is it ethical to set up a WAP and NOT let your neighbors in?"

    6. Re:It Was OK, It's His Fault by battjt · · Score: 1

      In my home town, 25% of the folks leave their keys in their car on purpose. Dad's keys are probably rusted in the truck ignition.

      If you moved someone's car so the street sweaper could get buy, they'd thank you; if you drove thier car across town to the bar, you might end up with a pants load of buckshot.

      Joe

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    7. Re:It Was OK, It's His Fault by dissy · · Score: 1

      > Just because I leave the keys in my car by accident doesn't give you the right
      > to borrow my car.

      Right. But this guy didnt go over to the persons house and plug into his hub/switch.

      If you drive your car into my front door and left it there with the keys in it however, and I had no idea why it was there, accident or not you can hardly bitch if I start your car and drive it elsewhere.

      Well i guess you can bitch, since you posted that stupid comment, but just because someone bitches about something doesnt make it wrong to have done.

      Hell, it doesnt even take more than common sense to realize "Wow i connected all my neet new magical toys and i can get on my internet connection from my living room with no cables!!! Wait, if i can, cant everyone else?"

      Once you realize that fact, it can be argued you ARE willingly allowing anyone to use it. Otherwise you wouldnt leave it in that condition.

      If you dont realize that fact, you are a moron with no common sense, and should not be allowed to continue your existance.

      If you are at or above normal intelligence, you would realize you have two options by the fact anyone can access it the same as you:
      1) STOP
      and
      2) Look into methods so only you can and noone else can.

      If you choose #1 there is no problem anymore.
      If you choose #2, it will lead you to WEP

      If a wireless network has WEP enabled, you are clearly not welcome.

      The very smart of us know WEP is not a good replacement for real security, and one should not do secure things with WEP as your only form of protection.
      However for answering the question of "Gee, can i use this network or not?" WEP being used is the only form of YES/NO there is.

      The other way (Not for the average or lesser ingelligence user however) is to not use WEP but make your SSID read "keep_out" or something similar.
      This too could be viewed as your not welcome.

      The whole argument of "If i accidentally leave my front door unlocked, you have no right to come in" is totally off base.
      Having no WEP and using DHCP to serve out IPs is similar to your house having no walls or doors of any sort what so ever, nor being on a lot.

      If you lived on a throw rug in the middle of a field, you would have about as much privacy as a non-WEP enabled access point, and at that point the comparison is more accurate.

      Is it right to steal an item laying on this throw rug in the middle of a field somewhere? No. Would anyone at all even think for a second you were in the wrong for doing so if your argument is "But the stuff was just laying there, how was i suppost to know it wasnt free junk!"? Not at all.

      If you "accidentally" left an open access point handing out IPs connected to your internet connection, dont bitch.
      Its like if you "accidentally" left cash sitting on your bar stool while you went to take a piss. Its wrong to take it, but how could you expect anything else to happen?

      Its people like you who complain "Its never my fault for being incompotent, its always everyone elses fault for taking advantage of me!" that are turning this countrys laws into the fucked up system we have to live with daily.

      There is a fine line between being taken advantage of and being stupid as fuck.

      If you take your car to a service shop and they lie about whats wrong to get more money, you are taken advantage of.
      If you buy a book and try to do it yourself and fuck your car up, you are stupid.

      If you have someone install your network and tell you 'its secure, only you can use it' and this happens, you have been taken advantage of.
      If you try to set it up yourself and do it wrong without even trying to read a 'quick setup guide', you are stupid.

      Personally I would no doubt break my car if i attempted to fix it myself. For me to even try it would be stupid. This is why i trust my mechanic to know what hes doing, as well as not lie to me about it.

      If i didnt know what i was donig with

    8. Re:It Was OK, It's His Fault by TFloore · · Score: 1
      Hell, it doesnt even take more than common sense to realize "Wow i connected all my neet new magical toys and i can get on my internet connection from my living room with no cables!!! Wait, if i can, cant everyone else?"

      For most people, wireless access points are sold just like a cordless phone. And most people consider a cordless phone to only work with the handset that comes with it. Except they don't really think of it that way, they think of it as "It works with my stuff" as is, frankly, the reasonable way to consider things.

      The problem here is that most people's life experience is dealing with things that people control. Not things that computers control. You put computers in control of things, and you lose a lot of contextual information that people use to make decisions. Because, frankly, much as we like them, computers are incredibly stupid.

      People want to buy things that will work in their house with their stuff. And when they plug something into a wall, it works with their stuff that they plug in. And when they buy something that is "just like wired, only the convenience of wireless" which is how most of these things are sold, they expect it to work the same way.

      And then people like you come along and say that it's right to take advantage of this. I'll bet you liked driving around neighborhoods 10 years ago with cordless phones and making long-distance calls on other people's lines, because, hey, if they didn't want you doing that, they wouldn't use something that allowed it. Right?

      Congratulations, you are a parasite on society.

      Reading furthur, you say:
      If a wireless network has WEP enabled, you are clearly not welcome.

      and immediately follow it with
      The very smart of us know WEP is not a good replacement for real security, and one should not do secure things with WEP as your only form of protection.
      ...
      The other way is to not use WEP but make your SSID read "keep_out" or something similar.

      Hmm. In one place you say "take advantage of the morons" and in another you say "be polite and don't use a resource that someone asks nicely that you not use."

      Umm... you don't really have a fully-developed moral and ethical code, do you?
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    9. Re:It Was OK, It's His Fault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they leave their access point unsecure, it's their fault.

      Ahh, the old "she was askin' for it" defense, adapted for the times.

      If/when I get busted for nuking a Code Red-infected box that tried to infect my machine, I'm going to try the "he needed killin'" defense. Kinda, iffy, since I don't live in the South, but who knows?

    10. Re:It Was OK, It's His Fault by dissy · · Score: 1

      > Hmm. In one place you say "take advantage of the morons" and in another you say
      > "be polite and don't use a resource that someone asks nicely that you not use."

      Where you came up with that is beyond me. You also took what i said totally wrong.

      Example. At work (non IT job) there is a hub/switch on a desk with some machines attached to it.

      There is a HUGE difference between asking "Am i allowed to plug in there to get internet access?" then being told yes or no, and never once asking and intending to break into their shit by plugging in their network.

      They are two totally different intents.

      WEP will NOT protect you from someone whos intent is to break in and see your wireless traffic.

      WEP in the above example is like saying "No, you are not allowed to use that"

      Does that mean anything further is stopping you from actually using it for good or bad? NO.

      If WEP is on, moral people (myself included) will not use your connection. WEP is like saying "no", it is not an actual secure way to garentee noone will use it. It really is like just asking.
      If someone is intending to break into your shit and use it or sniff your traffic, WEP will not protect you.

      In the above example, if my workers asked if they can use that switch/hub for internet access, and i said no to them, I may choose not to take any further action to prevent them from doing so.

      That is the long version of what I said in those two lines.

      Please stop putting words in my mouth, and twisting the ones that actually come from there into something totally different.

    11. Re:It Was OK, It's His Fault by TFloore · · Score: 1

      I think my issue here is with one of your starting assumptions.

      You seem to think that most people will (or at least should) realize that a non-WEP'd wireless access point is the same as saying "I'm willing to share" for a random home user. Or a random small business user, for that matter.

      I agree that WEP is inherently insecure, and not much better than politely asking someone "please go elsewhere." MAC filtering is the same, given cards that can clone MACs.

      Our basic disagreement comes from the fact that I expect a "random home user" to be someone who believes (falsely) that a purchased WAP is secure and will only work with his own stuff, just like a wired switch, and requires no additional configuration out of the box, just like a wired switch. And therefore, the "polite" action is to look for a feature of a WAP that explicitly states sharing is allowed/accepted. The default should be "please go away" instead of "feel free to use this."

      You almost seem to agree with this, in your analogy to your wired switch on your desk. You expect people to ask first. You don't say what a "no response" means in that case. If someone walks by and sees a switch on your desk and you aren't there to ask, are they right to plug in without asking? Or is the default "polite" response there to assume a lack of permission unless explicitly given? You don't cover this in your "and then being told yes or no."

      A wireless access point without WEP, I argue, is like your switch sitting on your desk without you there to ask. What is your assumption for the meaning of "no response" to your question of "can I use this resource?"

      And, from curiosity, does your assumption of the meaning of "no response" change for wired versus wireless access? If so, why does your assumption change?

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  15. "Was I wrong to steal?" Yes. by mike_sucks · · Score: 1

    I assume you were living in a soceity which considered stealing to be wrong, so yes, you were wrong.

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  16. reply by drrocco · · Score: 0

    What about when you go to a house on holloween and the people left a bowl of candy, instead of answering the door? I take what I need and leave. No harm, no foul.

    1. Re:reply by monthos · · Score: 1

      Of coarse its assumed at that point thats why the candy is there. As for the WiFi believe it or not most of the unencrypted AP's are not there for public use. yes it is stealing, stealing from people who do not understand the technology, they just plug in and go.

  17. My base station is wide open, too. by kwerle · · Score: 1

    Come on by. Use some bandwidth. Fine with me.
    If I cared, I'd WEP it. If I really cared, I'd WEP and MAC address lockout. If I really really cared, I'd only allow it single port access to a server with a VPN, then nobody could get through but me (in theory, anyway).

    If your neighbor is playing good music loudly, and you open your window and enjoy it, are you stealing (OK, no RIA comments, please :-).

    If you use someone's driveway to help turn around, are you stealing?

    I don't think so. If you reall feel bad, go back, figure out whose it is, and tell them it's open. Odds are they don't know and/or don't care.

    1. Re:My base station is wide open, too. by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 0
      Come on by. Use some bandwidth. Fine with me.

      But it might not be fine by someone else. The fact that someone has failed to secure something (a WLAN, a car door, whatever) does not imply permission for others to use it. Not legally, and not by the norms of western society.

      If your neighbor is playing good music loudly, and you open your window and enjoy it, are you stealing.

      No. Because he doesn't own the vibrations or the music. Sure, he owns the CD and the CD player, but you are obviously not stealing them.

      If you use someone's driveway to help turn around, are you stealing?

      No, but you might be committing trespass ... depending on the context. There is an implied permission to enter your property for certain purposes. For example, someone is allowed to go up to your front door and ring the doorbell. This applies unless you make it clear that you have withdrawn it. I wouldn't be prepared to make a guess as to the legalities of turning a care in someone elses driveway ... in your jurisdiction.

      As to the "ethics" of this, you are clearly not stealing anything because you are not depriving the driveway owner of anything. But if the norms of your society say that it is not acceptable to turn in someone elses driveway, you are ethically wrong to do so.

      If you really feel bad, go back, figure out whose it is, and tell them it's open. Odds are they don't know and/or don't care.

      Odds are they don't know, but they would care if they did know. In fact, they'd probably be extremely annoyed, and (if they thought about it) rather scared.

    2. Re:My base station is wide open, too. by kwerle · · Score: 1

      No, but you might be committing trespass ... depending on the context. There is an implied permission to enter your property for certain purposes. For example, someone is allowed to go up to your front door and ring the doorbell.

      Unless you put up a fence and sign saying "No trespassing."

      This applies unless you make it clear that you have withdrawn it.

      Right.

      I wouldn't be prepared to make a guess as to the legalities of turning a care in someone elses driveway ... in your jurisdiction.

      Generally illegal - but still OK.

      Odds are they don't know, but they would care if they did know. In fact, they'd probably be extremely annoyed, and (if they thought about it) rather scared.

      They've set up a trasceiver. They use it remotely. The idea SHOULD have crossed their minds that others could, too. I'm betting that they just don't care. You're right - maybe they should - but maybe /.'ers are too paranoid.

    3. Re:My base station is wide open, too. by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1
      They've set up a trasceiver. They use it remotely. The idea SHOULD have crossed their minds that others could, too.

      I think you are overestimating the knowledge and common sense of the average computer user when it comes to computer security. Like the CS professor I knew who (it transpired) used a 3 character password for all of his accounts.

  18. It subject to theacceptable use of your ISP by mpechner · · Score: 1
    Most ISPs have clauses for broadband about sharing. It is a no no.

    At this time I don't think it breaks any laws, but then again I'm not a lawyer.

    If his usage caused a blip on the radar he could loose his account if he let people use the AP. They want the $40-$60 from those other people.

    If it is accidental, they would talk him through setting up WEP or Mac address filtering.

  19. Is stealing ethical? Maybe it was a public WLAN? by shodson · · Score: 1

    When is stealing ever ethical? The fact that you say you are stealing should be answer enough.

    On the other hand, how do you know you were stealing? Maybe the owner of the WLAN intended for it to be a public access point since they didn't take any measures to protect it. Maybe they are naive, but I think people who install WLANs are obliged to take some simple security measures that are not hard to find out about or learn about. If they are technical enough to configure it to work on a network they should be able to at least set up an encryption key.

  20. Stealing? Of course not. by tchdab1 · · Score: 1

    Excuse me, but what exactly is the problem?
    Yes, in a court of law whoever rents out the infrastructure would argue that, at 120 baud rates, your download cost the company $2600, and so with legal fees you are liable for $200,000 in damages. And in these greed-oriented, legislator-bought, owners-take-all, times, they might get it.

    But there is no doubt in my mind who the criminals are.

  21. If you're worried about it... by HaloZero · · Score: 1

    Go find the dude, and give him a dollar. Problem solved.

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  22. What about, you know, asking? by MoodyLoner · · Score: 1

    I mean, if you were outside my house, I might OK temporary access for you to download drivers. Hell, I might go ahead and download them for you.

    Of course, I set up WEP once it occurred to me that providing free broadband for my hostile neighbors was not what I wanted to do with my free time.

    Maybe the guy's deliberately sharing his broadband. Maybe he hasn't figured out how to secure it. Wouldn't kill you to ask, would it?

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  23. If it's unprotected, it's a free-for-all by Alereon · · Score: 1

    If the owner if the wireless network didn't want you using their bandwidth, they would have protected it in some fashion. If you had circumvented this protection, you would have been stealing. However, since it was open to public access, you are free to use it as you see fit (standard rules of polite behavior using public media apply). If they decide they don't like that, they are free to restrict access. Instead of feeling guilty, think about how cool the owners were for providing such a public service.

  24. What if it happened to you? by Trongy · · Score: 1

    If someone that you didn't know used your wireless connection to download files, how would you feel about it?

  25. guilty by bedheading · · Score: 1


    I purchased a 802.11b card in January, because a new roommate would be moving in with his Airport base station. Before he arrived with his base station I tried the card out and noticed that I had a 75% signal throughout the apartment.

    Within 5 minutes I had detected which manufacturer created the WAP next door, found the default admin log and pass, and changed the router name to "goatse.cx" to see if my neighbor would notice.

    It's been 3 months and I still use his connection whenever I want to download something and keep my ping down whilst playing Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I love it. It is NOT difficult to implement WEP, so I don't feel bad about it. The guy could easily secure his network if he felt like it.. or if he was wise enough.

    1. Re:guilty by monthos · · Score: 1


      "The guy could easily secure his network if he felt like it.. or if he was wise enough."

      what is it with you people thinking like scam artists. "they were so stupid they were asking for it!"

      stealing an ignorant persons bandwith is as bad as selling someone the brooklyn bridge.

  26. Ethics, not legalities by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1
    saying "i didn't realize i couldn't use this car" is a lame excuse, but i'd say it works for wireless since there are plenty of public hotspots.

    You might get away with that in a court of law, but we are talking about ethics here. The guy knew that the WLAN he was borrowing was not a public hotspot. This is obvious from the original posting.

    1. Re:Ethics, not legalities by withnothingtodo · · Score: 1

      but aren't laws an attempt to reflect the morals and ethics of a society?

    2. Re:Ethics, not legalities by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1
      In some cases, yes. in other cases, the law and/or its interpretation is primarily intended to benefit the current government's power base.

      But that's beside the point. The reality is that there are many things that are legal, while being clearly unethical (or immoral) in the view of most people. And there are lots of illegal (and unethical) actions that you can "get away with" because a smart lawyer can convince a judge / jury to not convict. The net result is that ethics and the law are poles apart.

  27. Once upon a time... by Deanasc · · Score: 1

    HBO broadcast their signal without scrambling. You needed a very expensive and very large dish to get it. They tried to outlaw the dishes and I think it was decided that tough luck the signals fell on private property. So then they started to scramble the signal. I see a paralell here. If the wifi wasn't protected and the signal fell onto your property then it's yours for the taking.

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    1. Re:Once upon a time... by monthos · · Score: 1

      but your not just recieving a signal that would have been there anyways, you then transmit, and use the connection, sending whatever the hell you got damn please, now your packets are tresspassing onto someone elses's network, was it wide open... yes, but just becouse i disnt lock my front door does not give you the right to come in and drink my damn beer.

    2. Re:Once upon a time... by Deanasc · · Score: 1

      But if you rain beer down on my property don't expect to have it to drink yourself.

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  28. Simple answer. by mcgroarty · · Score: 1
    Those frequencies belong to the public for public use. If they're accessible, they're yours.

    Courts may not agree, but mine wasn't a legal answer.

  29. Well...more info. by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

    Was this on a college campus? Was it a campus access point you connected to? If so I'd say you paid for the bandwidth already. If not, yeah stealing is bad, even if it makes your life convienent.

  30. The neighbor girl by Webmoth · · Score: 1

    So if the neighbor girl leaves her pants down, does that mean you can... er... um... "attach" to her "network" and upload some "packets?"

    You didn't see me type that.

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  31. Re:Is stealing ethical? Maybe it was a public WLAN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    becouse we all know how much the common public knows about encryption. seriously alot of people have the need or desire for a wireless LAN as much as they do for a cordless phone. yes they should take some effort to secure it but they dont know any better, the assumption that its there for you to take advantage of is not a good answer. its a bad exuse made up by people who knew they were wrong but couldnt think up a better exuse.

  32. If you have to ask the question, by Mordant · · Score: 1

    don't you really know the answer, already?

    1. Re:If you have to ask the question, by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      --You have a point. However, I'll play devil's advocate 1st, then offer my own opinion.

      --This guy's particular action could fall under the "no harm, no foul" rule. Yes, he used somebody else's bandwidth w/o compensation, but there was no REAL PROPERTY infringed upon. In other words, "nothing" was "stolen" except Time and Bits(ok, Bytes if you want to extend it that far.) The received content was a freely available driver, not sensitive information or code. Nobody was attacked or "harmed" in Real Life. If the "owner" isn't paying by the minute and has no cap on how much s/he can grab off the Net, it's basically a "free" download. Even with 22Meg, the owner will never notice.

      --HOWEVER, this is assuming a LOT of things. This is why "Wireless Theft" cases should be judged on a case-by-case basis. Along with this, ALL wireless access should be encrypted, and locked-down by DEFAULT. If you want to give it away for free, post a sign outside your building with the access codes.

      --Now for my opinion. The wireless manufacturers were incredibly boneheaded in releasing insecure wireless technology on the unsuspecting public. This story is one reason I'm still using good old 100MBit Cat5/e cable with a 24-port switch connected to my DSL, and believe me - I'm not even considering wireless any time soon. Period. I'm giving the tech another couple of years to mature, because I've been through a couple of mildly bad experiences (Form virus on my 286 [I didn't even have a MODEM! Came through on a borrowed floppy], and getting files put on one of my servers due to anonymous ftp access - locked down now.)

      --I use (and prefer) dynamic IP on my DSL. Killing my connection when I'm done with it gives me a great deal of satisfaction. ;-) I've never used crap like Kazaa, and I have no interest in using my conn as a server. Some may say I'm hopelessly behind the times; but then again - nobody likes being cr4x0r3d.

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      == WolfriderV6 == I'm willing to admit that *I just might* be wrong... Are you??
  33. Hmmmm... by shepd · · Score: 1

    Let's put this into another context: Older cordless phones on the 49 Mhz band didn't authenticate, and broadcasted in the clear (much like most of today's phones, which only authenticate -- Oh they joys of owning a scanner! Find out if your neighbours hate you [yet] or not!). This means that if you had your cordless phone off the base station and your neighbour had his tuned to the same channel (with his base station off), he'd be able to use your phone line. Illegal? Wrong? I'll let you decide. I suppose it all depends on how you used it. Did you make a call to a toll-free number? Probably not morally reprehensible, but probably also illegal. Call a phone-sex line? A little from column A, a little from column B!

    Since no real hard and fast laws exist about this (that I know of) you'd be best not pushing the issue, IMHO. You don't want to become case law, do you? ;-)

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    If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
  34. He doesn't care... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love all the comments about how this "ignoramous" has left his AP open to the world to "steal" bandwidth from the poor cable companies. Did it ever occur to any of you that this "ignoramous" probably doesn't give a rat's ass about whether or not you're tapping his broadcast? He's paying a buttload for poor network performance from a monopolistic cable company anyway. Why can't he let others share the wealth? If he gets caught by some war-driving Comcastite or RoadRunner snitch, than it's his risk to take.

  35. Think about it this way... by clambake · · Score: 1

    If your neighbor across the street has his floodlight on, and you needed to read your book, is it ethical to open your blinds and use thier light?

    On the flip side, if you are trying to get to sleep at night, is it ethical for them to leave thier floodlights on all night?

    The wireless that they have on is not only coming into your house, but also reducing YOUR capacity to set up your own wireless. If you had 3-4 neighbors close around you all on different channels, you might not be able to set up a reasonable network in your own house.

    If thier wireless is going to be coming into your house and take up your own personal RF bands in your own walls, then not only is it ethical to use it, but it's also UNETHICAL for them to not allow you to use it.

    Everyone has been using the car analogy where if I left my car with the keys running, is it right to take it... Well, I have a better analogy that you should consider. If I have boxes I packed up from college, and I just decide to store then in some random guy down the street's living room, is it somehow unethical for him to open them up and look inside? Can I bitch and moan when he watches the blockbuster videos that I packed in there (He didn't pay the license fee after all!)?

    If you think it's wrong to access a neighbor's wireless from your own house, please email me your address, I need a place to put my stuff...

  36. Go tell the dude. by IainB · · Score: 1

    It's somewhat similar to finding a mobile phone in the street, and using it to call a FREE number.

    It'd only be stealing if you didn't return the phone - in this case, you now have a responsibility to go educate this guy about his AP.

    Point out that you could have downloaded illegal material via his connection, which he'd likely be liable for.

    IaIn

  37. umm.. how much code does it take to render HPGL? by molo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    a new driver for her HP printer, which was 22MB

    Can someone explain this to me? How much code does it take to render HPGL graphics? Surely no more than a postscript renderer, which really isn't that much. Lets be generous and say its 1MB of code. What the hell else is in this driver that causes it to be so bloated that it takes up 22MB, which I suspect is already compressed?!

    I suspect its a bunch of junk that you don't need in order to print, sits in your taskbar tray, and runs a daemon/service for no good reason.

    Crap like this is yet another reason why windows sucks.

    -molo

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  38. Or, maybe it's like... by shumacher · · Score: 1

    Or, maybe it's like some person set up an access point in a manner that allows for access freely by all in range. Everyone wants an analogy. Seriously, one could argue that this situation is like a number of others. The truth is that you can't judge it as being like car theft, boxes in a stranger's living room, or the empty can of Red Bull (which I don't drink) I found in my garbage can when I brought it from the street last week. The way I see it, you have to go by what the user did not what the user meant to do. (Maybe the access points should just have a big red toggle switch on the front labeled "Access" with two positions: "Me only" and "Everyone.") What the user did was configure a system that was capable of access control to allow free access from all clients. I consider that permission to use the access. That having been said, I've never transmitted one packet out over the net through one of these mystery APs. Try to think of context. If I found an open AP in a public place, like a school, library, mall, resturaunt or coffee shop, I'd consider it a resource for the patrons. In my admittedly limited war driving (I might have ten miles of it) I've not found such an AP. If I go into a coffee shop next week and discover an open AP, I'm surfing. I'll have also just found my new favorite coffee shop. :)

  39. Trespassing by darqchild · · Score: 1

    Hell, where i live, if you don't tell somone that they're trespassing ( or post a sign to that effect), then they're not.

    If somone leaves their wireless lan open, then they cant complain if somone uses their bandwidth.

    I don't know abouy the USA, but where I am, unlocked = public

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  40. Garden Hose by E1v!$ · · Score: 1

    I think this is more like walking into someones yard and drinking out of his garden hose.

    Unless he's watering his lawn, it's annoying, but no big deal.

    There was a customer of mine who installed a wireless access point and didn't secure it. Someone used his bandwidth, but was then kind enough to leave a message on ALL of his printers telling him he had a security problem. You might do the same for this guy. I think it 'ballances' karma, and even puts things in your favor (grey hat type stuff)

  41. Did you try and ask? by Sits · · Score: 1

    I would liken it to finding money on the floor. You can just take it but did you try to find out who the owner was first? Some WAP points allow you to set a comment and sometimes there's an email address in that comment.

  42. Which is why there should be a standard. by TheLink · · Score: 1

    Who to ask and how? There should be a standard so that you can easily find out whose network you are using. So in the absence of a "yes you can" polite people won't use it.

    e.g. http://here/ or https://here/ or something like that, and you'd see the main webpage for the network you're on. With stuff like Terms of Usage, login page, chat, list of other users on line, other devices you can use (jukebox, airconditioner etc).

    The here TLD could be resolved locally by a dns server for that site. If it's globally (you pass client dns packets out) then it'll have to resolve to a reserved private IP (similar to RFC1918 addresses but just a single one) which is only routed locally.

    This is not a standard, and I'm nobody, and so far many ppl I talk to don't seem to see the need for it.

    Most seem to assume that the location isn't important, people just connect to the whole internet and that's it.

    AFAIK location is very important. After all there are many location sensitive services you can provide to users but not appropriate for the whole internet, esp with the risk of an occasional slashdotting. Why shouldn't a shop/restaurant providing you with free internet access not have more ways to encourage you to return?

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    1. Re:Which is why there should be a standard. by vsync64 · · Score: 1
      Who to ask and how? There should be a standard so that you can easily find out whose network you are using. So in the absence of a "yes you can" polite people won't use it.
      There is, and it's built in. It's called "don't have the password, don't have access".
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    2. Re:Which is why there should be a standard. by TheLink · · Score: 1

      You're talking about something else. Would be good if you actually read the original problem and my suggestion.

      This is about networks which don't require passwords for access - unlocked/open/unprotected.

      If a network is unlocked/unprotected how do we know whether someone is being generous or being ignorant?

      If something similar to what I suggest becomes common/standard then one can easily check if a network has been explicitly made open for public use and what the terms are, and whether there are other interesting and accessible local services/devices/people.

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    3. Re:Which is why there should be a standard. by vsync64 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      If a network is unlocked/unprotected how do we know whether someone is being generous or being ignorant?
      That's their business. If they don't take the trivial step of setting a password (which is clearly recommended in even the most dumbed-down wireless kits I have seen) why should I assume that their policy is anything different than what they've deliberately implemented technologically.

      If something similar to what I suggest becomes common/standard then one can easily check if a network has been explicitly made open for public use and what the terms are, and whether there are other interesting and accessible local services/devices/people.
      The http://here/ is an interesting idea. Easily getting information about ToS, local interests, etc, would be nice. But using something like that to say "please stay off my network" is quite simply asinine and redundant.

      I note that your idea isn't likely to be implemented be the technological ignoramuses of the world, either.

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    4. Re:Which is why there should be a standard. by KiahZero · · Score: 1
      I note that your idea isn't likely to be implemented be the technological ignoramuses of the world, either.

      I think that's his point... if the files are there, I can see what the owner of the network is OK with me doing. If the files aren't there, odds are that the network wasn't intended to be open.

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    5. Re:Which is why there should be a standard. by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Yes it's their business but for us it's not always nice to take advantage of the ignorant or stupid.

      The ignoramuses will still risk having their networks being exploited. BUT nice people can keep their conscience clear AND still get to use open networks that are explicitly made open.

      Right now, if you don't want to be rude, it's hard to use any open network without foreknowledge that it's OK.

      Physical logos are helpful, but you could still be on the WRONG open network. While DNS caching makes my suggestion not 100%, it's better than nothing. Plus allows lots of other fun stuff using existing software/infrastructure- you could find and interact with other people or devices in the same location as you are. Could be useful if wearable computers become pervasive.

      I haven't been very successful pushing for this "here" thing, I've even submitted an internet draft (tldhere) a while ago, but it never made RFC, nor got much interest in the right places, wrote to ICANN, E. Dyson (to reserve a special TLD for people to use ala RFC1918). No luck.

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    6. Re:Which is why there should be a standard. by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 1

      > If a network is unlocked/unprotected how do we know whether someone is being
      > generous or being ignorant?

      The name of the network.

    7. Re:Which is why there should be a standard. by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Any details? Is there a standard/defacto standard for this?

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    8. Re:Which is why there should be a standard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No standard. But if the network name says it is free and open, I'd think you could have at it.

  43. Buy Him a beer and offer to sort his security out by alnapp · · Score: 1

    That'll show if he:
    a) Doesn't mind - in which case relax and war chalk his door
    b) Does mind, but didn't know, in which case - fix his security and call it a fair trade

  44. Re:umm.. how much code does it take to render HPGL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess you don't under HP printers. That 22MB IS THE PRINTER. That hulk of plastic on the desk is nothing without that driver. Blame Microsoft.

  45. of course it's not wrong by vsync64 · · Score: 1
    I don't see why you're bothering with that question. Wireless networking has numerous forms of security available. Requiring a simple security key is such a trivial step that I would take the fact that he left it wide open as a crystal-clear implication that he intended it to be public. If it wasn't intentional, then clearly he ignored the shiny baubles labeled "security" and "password" and such in favor of the shiny bauble labeled "start up now" or whatever, meaning that he doesn't care whether other people access it or not. This is really only a very slight difference from the first situation.

    If you went and cracked his WEP or something, then yes, we could have a discussion about the wrongness of that. But the system involved has clear methods for conveying security-related metadata, which have been explicitly set up as an open network with no authorization required. So stop wasting our time when the operator of the network has told you through these technological means that the network is free to all. Enjoy the free bandwidth.

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  46. What I want in an access point by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    I want to be able to specify a list of MAC addresses in my access point that get priority. There should be a traffic shaper that gives me priority on my connection.

    I couldn't care less if somebody else uses my unmetered access unless it's slowing me down. At that point I care alot.

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    OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
    1. Re:What I want in an access point by akb · · Score: 1

      check out nocat. it implements a captive portal with traffic shaping and the ability to assign users to groups which get different classes of service.

  47. Let's look at this. by wowbagger · · Score: 1
    OK, you were loading your friend's machine, and it was going slow. What would you have done if you didn't have your laptop?

    1. "We'll let it run while I'm in class and deal with it later."
    2. "We'll stop this and deal with it after class"
    3. "We'll skip class and deal with this now."
    4. "I'll skip class and run back to my place, where I can download these faster."


    OK, so instead you went looking for an unsecured WAP. You knew you were wrong, and you did it anyway. Therefor, you have moral culpability for appropriating somebody else's bandwidth. Don't feel bad - Bill Gates does it too.

    However, the person who's bandwidth you used also bears culpability in this matter. They were smart enough to get some form of fast connection and to get a WAP connected to it - they bear responsibility for securing it. If they don't know how, they should have hired someone who did. They have an "attractive nuisance" they need to secure.

    The mere fact you wrote this to Slashdot shows me you know you are wrong, and are looking for somebody to provide you with justification. While I am sure many people will do so, I shall not be among them. "You done a bad thing, George." - not as bad as spitting in the elevator even, but a bad thing none the less.

    You have to make choices in this life. Either do the right thing (and be inconvenienced thereby), or do the wrong thing (and be prepared for any negative consiquences). Either way, stand by your actions.
  48. A better question is .. by Glonoinha · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually I would say a better question is 'what are the odds of me getting caught?' And the answer is 'very slim.'

    In my 'hood someone had their Linksys WiFi (I will get around to explaining how I knew in a minute) up without WEP enabled, just plugged it in and let it go ... I found it when a friend of mine was at my place, looking for a cable connection for his laptop to check email. It was a new IBM with built in 802.11b and it asked if I wanted to use the ambient signal it found, first clue. I went out the next day and bought a 802.11b card for my laptop and sure enough, signal. Weak signal, but still. (I bought a base station also so I could use it without the moral implications and in case it went away...)

    I got to dinking around with his system, recognized by the IP address it assigned me that it wasn't an SMC unit, probably a Linky so I tried to connect to the console using the default password and Voila! it worked.

    I was at a neighborhood gathering the other day when I asked 'anybody know who Alex or Erin are?' (the hub was broadcasting the name alexerin) and one guy says 'That's my daughter, why?' I let him know I was tappin' it from time to time (his network, not his daughter) - and explained to him how to lock it up. He had no clue.

    Next day it was WEP enabled. Maybe I shoulda kept my mouth shut, I got better reception from his AP than from mine in certain places in my house / back yard.

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    1. Re:A better question is .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL, "tappin' it..."

      Priceless =)

  49. It's only airwaves -- and unlicensed ones, at that by Deagol · · Score: 3, Insightful
    If some satellite company goofed and beamed unencrypted HBO over the northern hemisphere for 24 hours, would they have a legal case to sue people who tuned in? Of course not!

    So, if you're broadcasting your access singnal, unlicensed and unencrypted into another residence, I say all bets are off.

  50. Cultural Norms by CompVisGuy · · Score: 1

    Like most people here, I think that you did steal bandwidth: you didn't pay for it or ask to useit, hell, you don't even know whose bandwidth it was. But...

    It is true that some people leave their WAPs open as an invitation to anyone to use the bandwidth. Some would consider using the bandwidth of an open WAP to be a cultural norm.

    The problem is that most WAP's factory settings are insecure -- so it is impossible to tell if the open WAP is an invitation, or an indication of a novice.

    As several others have suggested, find the person whose bandwidth you 'stole' and ask them. If they are a novice who doesn't want their WAP open to the public, show them how to secure it, and tell them about warchalking.

    It would be nice to see products shipping secured, rather than wide open, with well-written, prominant documentation about how to open up the services required.

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  51. You penance by j_kenpo · · Score: 1

    You did the right thing for her, but the wrong thing for the person owning the broadband connection. You should now say 10 Hail Marys and flog yourself, and all will be forgiven...

    1. Re:You penance by weeboo0104 · · Score: 1

      You're absolutely right! I always feel better after I flog myself!

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  52. Wireless security isn't that difficult by cgenman · · Score: 1

    The person who left their network wide open chose to do so. The idea that an average person can't pick an even mediocre 8 byte password and copy that to any device they want to access the network with is ludicrous. Leaving a wireless network completely unsecured is a sign that they want to share their bandwidth with people who need it. You obviously needed it. It's like electrical outlets left unprotected in public spaces, or the piles of books people leave in the subway: if they didn't want it to be used publically, they would have hit the "password enable" checkbox on their router setup program.

    Now, whether or not that person was stealing from their ISP by giving you access is a different issue... I know our ISP has setup an open wireless network as a test program for people on this block, but many feel differently. Still, contract clauses are not the same thing as rights or ownership, and I wouldn't expect the ISP was paying by the bit, nor their backbone provider.

    Sleep well, young skywalker... the commons is not stealing, despite what AOLTimeWarner may say...

  53. Wouldn't worry about it... by r4lv3k · · Score: 1

    I mean, its not like you installed subseven and pressed the guys boxen into your legion of d00m!

  54. just because the door is open by eliza_turing · · Score: 1

    does not mean you have an invitation to go in.

    that's just my two centidollars. when i get around to setting up a wireless access point, i will lock it down with at least wep and most likely mac as well. my DSL connection is not nearly as swift as that guy's broadband connection.

    although you borrowed the bandwidth resource briefly, i would liken the general practice to using smtp servers that have not been properly configured (open-relay). you are using a resource that costs money and you didn't pay for. then again, you may not have cost the guy a full nickel. i think this is something of a grey area ethicly. i would avoid the practice.

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  55. The Law by linuxwrangler · · Score: 1

    IANAL. That being said, In California, section 498 of the Penal Code makes theft of utility services illegal. Whether the law would apply in an individual case seems to depend on lots of things (who owns the router/bridge, who knew about the access, "intent", etc.) but it appears that you could get into criminal trouble.

    I used to work at a campus police department. We had regular problems with a street-person cranking up his boom-box in a campus parking structure late at night and annoying all the neighbors. After numberous warnings the officers just started arresting him for theft of electricity for plugging into the campus owned outlet in the structure. No, it wasn't locked - it is just an outlet. That doesn't make it legal to run a cord from it over to your apartment.

    Another consideration - what if you use an "open" wireless point. Would you be offended to find the owner of that access point was logging all your traffic and using it for whatever purpose he chose? You "plugged" into someone else's network so I don't think you have any expectation of privacy.

    Here's the law (partial - there's lots more boring stuff) on theft of utilities. (Yes, telecommunication is included in the definition of utility):

    Any person who, with intent to obtain for himself or herself
    utility services without paying the full lawful charge therefor, or
    with intent to enable another person to do so, or with intent to
    deprive any utility of any part of the full lawful charge for utility
    services it provides, commits, authorizes, solicits, aids, or abets
    any of the following shall be guilty of a misdemeanor:
    (1) Diverts or causes to be diverted utility services, by any
    means whatsoever.
    (2) Prevents any utility meter, or other device used in
    determining the charge for utility services, from accurately
    performing its measuring function by tampering or by any other means.

    (3) Tampers with any property owned by or used by the utility to
    provide utility services.
    (4) Makes or causes to be made any connection with or reconnection
    with property owned or used by the utility to provide utility
    services without the authorization or consent of the utility.
    (5) Uses or receives the direct benefit of all or a portion of
    utility services with knowledge or reason to believe that the
    diversion, tampering, or unauthorized connection existed at the time
    of that use, or that the use or receipt was otherwise without the
    authorization or consent of the utility.
    (c) In any prosecution under this section, the presence of any of
    the following objects, circumstances, or conditions on premises
    controlled by the customer or by the person using or receiving the
    direct benefit of all or a portion of utility services obtained in
    violation of this section shall permit an inference that the customer
    or person intended to and did violate this section:
    (1) Any instrument, apparatus, or device primarily designed to be
    used to obtain utility services without paying the full lawful charge
    therefor.
    (2) Any meter that has been altered, tampered with, or bypassed so
    as to cause no measurement or inaccurate measurement of utility
    services.

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  56. No... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Call it a stupidity tax for the user who doesn't secure his/her own WLAN.

  57. Forget the wireless... by metamatic · · Score: 1

    ...did you pay for that Windows XP license?

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  58. Do Wintel-based setups help you set a password? by chickenbird · · Score: 1

    I don't understand why someone would not know they should set a password. I assumed all wireless setup software was smart enough to goad you into setting a password. However, this is based on my Apple-only experience -- Apple definitely makes it seem obvious you should set a password. Do other OSes/wireless packages not do this?

    One of my friends told me he went to a local Coffee place (not Starbucks, an actual local place) and got free wireless because the person in the apartment upstairs had an unprotected wireless setup. I think if you live in an old New England wooden (not concrete!) building right about a public gathering place like a coffee place, and you don't know enough to protect yourself, you are an unlucky fool.

  59. Re:It's only airwaves by Erris · · Score: 1
    Agreed, you might as well cry because the pay phone gave you your $0.35 back. No direct costs were had by the "victim".

    Sharing stuff like that is one of those things you want to do for your neighbors. Would I care if someone logged onto my wireless from time to time? No. I'm paying for my connection regardless of how much I use it. Would I mind if it started slowing me down? Yes and I'd figure out something to make things painful for me. Neighbors should share more than fences. What goes around, comes around.

    It's pretty simple but without such basic courtesy, the internet would not work. Think about what would happen if there were no peering arangments. How about what would happen if people decided to block off all of their networks and make nothing public? Of course, that's the direction we are going and I suppose that's why the question came up. When neighbors don't talk to each other or trust each other, no lines of communication are needed.

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  60. water is a good example. by Erris · · Score: 1
    Unlike a water spigot, which is also paid for, you can connect without notice.

    The Roman formula for exile was to deny water and fire to the person exiled. Only an ass would hoard what's essential and plentiful and only a criminal should be denied such things. This was not theft anymore than drinking from someone's running water hose on a hot day.

    Wireless has the potential to set us all free from per byte communication charges. Meshworks can eliminate the need for wires a comunity network can take the place of the failed public tuilities. It's not hard, the equipment is cheap and it will benifit everyone. We will get there faster if we have the right attitude about it.

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  61. Re:It's only airwaves -- and unlicensed ones, at t by cyberformer · · Score: 1

    This isn't exactly the same as getting free HBO, because that's just an "intellectual" property issue: An infinite number of people could watch HBO, without depriving anyone else of it. An Internet connection isn't like that: You're using some of its (finite) capacity, and at some point somebody might even be billed per packet or per byte.

    Having said that, I don't think you did anything wrong, and I do the same thing! Many people do intentionally leave their Internet connections open, as they're paying a flat rate and want to let other people use their excess bandwidth. There's even a handshake in the 802.11 protocol where a client requests permission to log on the network and an AP gives it (or denies it), which could be thought of as an invitation.

    Of course, if you're actually breaking WEP keys, spoofing MAC addresses or trying to get round an access control mechanism, that's another matter. The presence of any security (even crap security like WEP) does suggest that intruders are not welcome.