The best advice is always to RTFA. If you RTFA you will see that it was a car adapted for handicapped use. It's there at the very top of the article. It was quite possibly fitted with electronic accelerator and break paddles for hand-use or similar. If that breaks, and it probably could, it doesn't matter what he could and could not have done with his break pedal, which was probably removed.
the fact that "not a huge issue" is the best thing you can say about a new feature; is a huge issue
Well, that would be relevant if "not a huge issue" was the best thing I can say about a new feature. Since that is not the best thing I can say about this feature, demonstrated earlier in this thread, there is no "huge issue". I have already said that, for me, the instant availability of information afforded me by the Start Screen is a time saver and also a benefit of the "this is really convenient" kind. Since, every time I start a new application I can glance at the screen and instantly take in a significant information about many things that interests me in a day.
People are different. When I work I regularly (and more or less randomly) take short mental breaks. In those breaks I like to check a little of this and that, mostly nonsensical stuff like "what is the weather going to be like tomorrow", "how is my portfolio doing", "do I have any new email", "any cool stuff from Scott Bourne (Photofocus) on twitter yet", "whats cooking on/." etc. On the Start Screen I can pin (and have pinned) the twitter feed of Scott (and a few others). I have four tiles showing me weather for places I go to regularly. I have the most interesting parts of my portfolio pinned too. For my mental break I can get all of the above information (and more) with a quick glance at the start screen. That is a significant and (for me) production enhancing feature of Win8. For someone who is more of a nose-to-the-grindstone-for-5-hours-straight kind of person (that is actually not possible, but...) things might be different.
You really haven't bothered to look at any numbers, have you?
Yes I have. Have you? Apple's market share is small, and it is selling, comparatively, fewer and fewer iPhones. Yes, they are still making money, but with the way Samsung is eating their market share, it is not going to last without some drastic changes at Apple. I have not stated any made up facts, if you didn't know that Samsung alone (not to speak of Android as such) is crushing Apple in market share, you've been living under a rock for the past 18 months.
Does market share matter? Yes, even though current earnings is interesting, market share says something about your potential future earnings. If your market share is dropping, what it is saying about your future earnings is not nice.
Yeah, right, someone registers a trademark long before Apple thinks about developing a product, and the other guy is tawdry? Seriously? To me you sound like a huge Apple apologist.
Apple's iPhone, whatever else could be said about it, is arguably the most successful product in the history of the world
Considering the iPhone has a fairly small, and shrinking market share, that appears to be wrong.
The travesty is that people will be buying products labelled "iPhone" under the belief that they are buying the Apple product
Then they are stupid.
You can't expect that all countries to bow to the requirements of the biggest player. This situation is very, very simple. There was not nefarious trademark squatting, there was a company that registered a trademark in good faith, years later a US company created a product using this trademark, and the US company never undertook the required trademark investigation. This is the fault of, and the responsibility of Apple.
you can't say that this isn't a failure of trademark law to protect consumers
Yes, I can say exactly that. Look at it like this: A local company creates a successful product and a huge american company with massive lawyers come in and sell an inferior product under the same name. Does the US company deserve to peddle its inferior product to consumers pretending it is the locally produced quality product? No matter how successful the Apple marketing machine is world wide, many (me included) would argue that an Android phone is of superior quality to the Apple offering. Why should Apples inferior product be allowed to lure buyers away from the domestic, higher quality product?
Which is why companies name products differently in markets where they were not able to secure the trademark. Sorry, the only travesty here is that Apple can continue to sell products in Brasil under the name iPhone.
I agree, it is a travesty that Apple is allowed to sell handsets named iPhone in Brasil. Gradiente is going to have a tough time selling their superior product when they are steamrolled by an american billion dollar monster.
Well, actually, no. If a professional installs a new version of an OS and it turns out it is "broken", he'll uninstall and go back to the old one. He didn't.
He found an annoyance, and he calls it nothing but an annoyance. His main gripe is that he has multiple windows on his 27" computer, and they are side-by-side or in other ways do not overlap. My primary tools when working (as in not being doing personal stuff) on my 27" is either Visual Studio or Eclipse, both are screen hogs who work best as full-screen apps. This means that I, when working on development, I work with one app, and the imposition of having the start screen obscure it is not there. His work-flow is different and to him it is an imposition. That is a reasoned argument. He removed the slight annoyance (his word is "imposition") and kept using W8, presumably because he likes it.
Now, when I am at my computer not for work I will typically use my browser and a couple of other apps mostly. Either Photoshop CS6, Premiere Pro CS6, Lightroom 4, After Effects CS6, Vegas Video or Photodex ProShow. The browser is never in full-screen mode neither is ProShow (typically). All the other apps work far better in full-screen mode rather than using less screen real estate, Photoshop, Premiere and After Effects also benefit hugely from being the "only" applications running on the system since they gobble as much memory and as much CPU as they possibly can. This means, that even for personal use, I am in a single app, full-screen visual mode the majority of the time. In such cases, the Start Screen simply isn't an imposition. Of course, working simultaneously with hundreds of images (or more) that are 25-40M each may make my work-flow different from yours.
So, if you had explained why the start screen was an imposition for you, which work flow it interrupted and why, you would have made a reasoned argument. You didn't, you ranted about "broken" based on ignorance and lack of experience. The former is discussion, the latter is giving head to your favorite religious icon.
Please note how other people, you know, the ones who put together coherent arguments and not religious nonsense, also got reasonable responses. If you are the only one who get vitriol and everybody else gets rational responses, perhaps the problem is with the person you see in the mirror.
Good point, you can't. I don't see how it would be an issue though, once you type a couple of characters the app will pop up in a list. An irritant, but nothing that would impede your work unless you have a lot of apps that start with the same number of characters. I would not mind a Start Screen that pops up as some sort of part overlay on the desktop though. That would be an improvement.
I can't see this being a major issue though. If you can remember the first couple or characters of your new apps name, you are good to go. I would call it a distracting element, but (to me) not distracting enough that I would hate it and refuse the 20% speed increase Win8 gives me.
1. Reliable shutdown under 3 seconds when 50 applications are open.
2. Able to read (and later print too) the file its own "print to file" option creates.
3. Multiple users logging in to the machine at once
Good points. Irritants, particularly no 1. Not irritants enough to make me switch my personal usage to an operating system that doesn't have the applications I need though. Linux doesn't, and Apple is just even less lack of options and more of a walled garden than is Windows.
#3 makes business sense, and I can understand MS wants to leave this to their enterprise offerings. It's an irritant for me too though. But, as I said, without a Photoshop equivalent (no Gimp is not) and similar, Linux is not an option for anything but development, where it shines.
what does that make someone who posts outraged screeds when confronted with criticism of Windows 8?
I wasn't. There are plenty valid criticisms, even I have offered some, for example the fact that significant portions of important stuff is not touch enabled. I was confronted by religious drivel by someone who has never touched Win8 and who thinks (as is witnessed by the retarded comment at the end) he's met Jesus in an operating system.
That's either someone with his life invested in a Microsoft
At least 60% of my work day is spent on Ubuntu developing in Java (jBoss 6) and Ruby. Do you have a reading comprehension issue too?
go buy yourself a real operating system
And there was the proof. Windows is, for most things, the very, very best operating system out there today. It beats Linux in almost all areas, the main exception being the idiotic thing of having to run as admin for almost everything on a desktop OS. That part is gone now, so it isn't as valid any more, though the Windows equivalent of sudo is a little too easy to invoke.
I would dare anyone to list all advantages Linux have over Windows. The main real one is cost, and that only applies if you're an expert.
Linux simply isn't up to the task of being a desktop system for the average user. There are no real app choices for anything more than rudimentary work. Libre/Open Office is OK, but not up to the task of doing real documents, which is funny, I wrote all of my University stuff in LaTeX way back when since Word was not up to the task of doing structured documentation. LaTeX is still great for that, but Word is now functionally up to the task, and a hell of a lot better than LaTeX. Libre Office is playing in that field. There is no real image manipulation software for Linux. Gimp is close but lags Photoshop significantly if you produce for print, and I do (with my photography hobby). Linux has nothing like Lightroom. Eclipse is becoming a bloated behemoth of absurd girth (but there are decent alternatives). Linux it self is a overweight monster of bloat (according to Linus) etc.
But hey, list all the things that a "real operating system" has that Windows lacks. Betcha you can't.
Oh, and someone who is so seriously affected by Aspergers that they are willing to forego the 20% speed increase Windows 8 delivers over Windows 7 because of a tiny, non-detrimental UI change is just dumb IMnsHO.
Tell me then, if you're not a PR flack, just why are you so invested in a Microsoft product that you have to continuously have to write humongous screeds to defend every minor criticism?
Because I utterly despise idiots who spout nonsense about something they know nothing at all about. I develop in Ruby on Linux, in C# on Windows. I have been using Linux since SLS (and later Slackware), and I really, really like a lot of aspects of it. Morons who think that they have found Jesus just because they have moved into Linux or Apple rub me the wrong way. I hate religion, whether it involves fantasy bearded meanies in the sky or operating systems or hardware. Religion is bad for men no matter what form it comes in. The inane and insane ramblings of/. morons who feel superior for being off MS products are religious nuts, and they nothing but detrimental to software development, far more so than Microsoft, Apple, Google or whatever company it is fashionable to hate today. There is no difference between the average/. Linux (or Apple or...) fanboi and the average born-again evangelical nutcase. Someone who thinks an OS is terrible just because the cheese moved a tiny, tiny fraction, is a religious nut with a serious case of Aspergers.
Here is some reality for you: For the vast majority of the population, Windows is, by a very large margin, the best operating system out there. It beats OSX on availability, openness and usability, and it beats Linux (for users) on almost every single account. As great a system Linux is for development it is equally bad for production usage for the average user. An average user has no business using Linux simply because the few apps it has are poorly designed with crappy user interfaces.
For the Enterprise, Windows beats Linux in just about every area. Linux is not in the same ballpark as a well developed Windows network with AD etc. That's a simple fact. Linux is good for development on the desktop and for web deployment otherwise. To a degree also for database deployment, though I generally prefer other Unix(-like) systems to run my Oracle stuff. It wasn't always like that for sure, Microsoft was terribly late to the whole network thing in general (not even an IP stack available until Windows 3.1). That was then though, and judging a product on what it was 20 years ago is more than a little insane.
Now, to my PR shill aspects. It should be easy, even for religious nuts, to see that I am not a paid shill. There is no way any company PR person would allow their paid shills to call you a f*cking moron for bitching about the fact that someone moved your cheese a quarter of an inch. That type of statement is generally avoided by PR professionals given the fact that it tends to reflect negatively upon the company they work for. That also shows you that I am not defending MS here, not even close. I am attacking you for being a religious nut with Aspergers and too low an intelligence to be allowed out. I hate religious nuts. As the blog said: Yes Linus, Microsoft hating is a disease. And it's a pandemic. Disease is bad for the world, and we should be ridding the world of such diseases, one by one.
Also, just because someone doesn't agree with your ignorant retarded opinions, that doesn't make them a shill. Get a grip dude. You are seriously deranged.
You just told me to pay 5 dollars to get back to the way I used to launch programs in Windows
Wow, you really are retarded, are you not? Did you ask for you money back when they upgraded from Windows 3.x to Win95? Did you demand your cash back when they went from Windows XP/Vista to Windows 7? Did you throw a fit when Apple changed from the old finder to the new one?
Your retarded dishonesty is shining through big time. If you can't deal with a minor, inconsequential change, you have no business owning a computer, you are simply too rigid and too retarded. You'd think, from listening to you morons, this was the first time a software company made a tiny change to its user interface.
Oh, and since I use my computer for real work, the tiny "inconvenience" of having to learn a slightly new way to launch an application is more than offset by the 20% performance increase I get from Win8 over Win7. On the other hand, if you only use your computer to jerk off in front of, and it plays your mp4s fine, then I guess performance is trumped by the inconvenience of having to learn something new. You know, like the equivalent of launching apps from the desktop icons rather than the start menu. We all differ I guess.
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RTFA. Pay particular attention to the " his Renault Laguna, which is adapted for disabled drivers"
The best advice is always to RTFA. If you RTFA you will see that it was a car adapted for handicapped use. It's there at the very top of the article. It was quite possibly fitted with electronic accelerator and break paddles for hand-use or similar. If that breaks, and it probably could, it doesn't matter what he could and could not have done with his break pedal, which was probably removed.
the fact that "not a huge issue" is the best thing you can say about a new feature; is a huge issue
Well, that would be relevant if "not a huge issue" was the best thing I can say about a new feature. Since that is not the best thing I can say about this feature, demonstrated earlier in this thread, there is no "huge issue". I have already said that, for me, the instant availability of information afforded me by the Start Screen is a time saver and also a benefit of the "this is really convenient" kind. Since, every time I start a new application I can glance at the screen and instantly take in a significant information about many things that interests me in a day.
People are different. When I work I regularly (and more or less randomly) take short mental breaks. In those breaks I like to check a little of this and that, mostly nonsensical stuff like "what is the weather going to be like tomorrow", "how is my portfolio doing", "do I have any new email", "any cool stuff from Scott Bourne (Photofocus) on twitter yet", "whats cooking on /." etc. On the Start Screen I can pin (and have pinned) the twitter feed of Scott (and a few others). I have four tiles showing me weather for places I go to regularly. I have the most interesting parts of my portfolio pinned too. For my mental break I can get all of the above information (and more) with a quick glance at the start screen. That is a significant and (for me) production enhancing feature of Win8. For someone who is more of a nose-to-the-grindstone-for-5-hours-straight kind of person (that is actually not possible, but...) things might be different.
Not a huge issue exactly like the Sony rootkit wasn't a huge issue
Seriously? So, a UI change that has the same door effect as minimizing an app or switching between two apps in full-screen mode is a huge issue?
You really haven't bothered to look at any numbers, have you?
Yes I have. Have you? Apple's market share is small, and it is selling, comparatively, fewer and fewer iPhones. Yes, they are still making money, but with the way Samsung is eating their market share, it is not going to last without some drastic changes at Apple. I have not stated any made up facts, if you didn't know that Samsung alone (not to speak of Android as such) is crushing Apple in market share, you've been living under a rock for the past 18 months.
Does market share matter? Yes, even though current earnings is interesting, market share says something about your potential future earnings. If your market share is dropping, what it is saying about your future earnings is not nice.
It's about what consumers deserve. That's why trademarks exist
Trademarks exists for both reasons. Since you're wrong on this part, which is the basis of your argument, your argument falls apart.
tawdry affair
Yeah, right, someone registers a trademark long before Apple thinks about developing a product, and the other guy is tawdry? Seriously? To me you sound like a huge Apple apologist.
Apple's iPhone, whatever else could be said about it, is arguably the most successful product in the history of the world
Considering the iPhone has a fairly small, and shrinking market share, that appears to be wrong.
The travesty is that people will be buying products labelled "iPhone" under the belief that they are buying the Apple product
Then they are stupid.
You can't expect that all countries to bow to the requirements of the biggest player. This situation is very, very simple. There was not nefarious trademark squatting, there was a company that registered a trademark in good faith, years later a US company created a product using this trademark, and the US company never undertook the required trademark investigation. This is the fault of, and the responsibility of Apple.
you can't say that this isn't a failure of trademark law to protect consumers
Yes, I can say exactly that. Look at it like this: A local company creates a successful product and a huge american company with massive lawyers come in and sell an inferior product under the same name. Does the US company deserve to peddle its inferior product to consumers pretending it is the locally produced quality product? No matter how successful the Apple marketing machine is world wide, many (me included) would argue that an Android phone is of superior quality to the Apple offering. Why should Apples inferior product be allowed to lure buyers away from the domestic, higher quality product?
Which is why companies name products differently in markets where they were not able to secure the trademark. Sorry, the only travesty here is that Apple can continue to sell products in Brasil under the name iPhone.
I agree, it is a travesty that Apple is allowed to sell handsets named iPhone in Brasil. Gradiente is going to have a tough time selling their superior product when they are steamrolled by an american billion dollar monster.
Yes, in the same way that switching between two full-screen apps is. In other words, not a huge issue. IMHO.
With a start screen, there is not only a discontinuity, but any non-trivial usage of start screen is an active distraction
Only if you make it so.
Placement of email, stock, weather etc. tiles on the screen amplify the doorway amnesia effect
Then remove them. You can have, if you want to, zero distracting elements on the start screen. Your choice.
If most car manufacturers collude to creating cars that punches all occupants every 10 minutes
Silly analogy, but what if it is user definable. If you find anything on the Start Screen distracting, remove it.
Still not a single reasoned argument. Not one.
agree with my point
Well, actually, no. If a professional installs a new version of an OS and it turns out it is "broken", he'll uninstall and go back to the old one. He didn't.
He found an annoyance, and he calls it nothing but an annoyance. His main gripe is that he has multiple windows on his 27" computer, and they are side-by-side or in other ways do not overlap. My primary tools when working (as in not being doing personal stuff) on my 27" is either Visual Studio or Eclipse, both are screen hogs who work best as full-screen apps. This means that I, when working on development, I work with one app, and the imposition of having the start screen obscure it is not there. His work-flow is different and to him it is an imposition. That is a reasoned argument. He removed the slight annoyance (his word is "imposition") and kept using W8, presumably because he likes it.
Now, when I am at my computer not for work I will typically use my browser and a couple of other apps mostly. Either Photoshop CS6, Premiere Pro CS6, Lightroom 4, After Effects CS6, Vegas Video or Photodex ProShow. The browser is never in full-screen mode neither is ProShow (typically). All the other apps work far better in full-screen mode rather than using less screen real estate, Photoshop, Premiere and After Effects also benefit hugely from being the "only" applications running on the system since they gobble as much memory and as much CPU as they possibly can. This means, that even for personal use, I am in a single app, full-screen visual mode the majority of the time. In such cases, the Start Screen simply isn't an imposition. Of course, working simultaneously with hundreds of images (or more) that are 25-40M each may make my work-flow different from yours.
So, if you had explained why the start screen was an imposition for you, which work flow it interrupted and why, you would have made a reasoned argument. You didn't, you ranted about "broken" based on ignorance and lack of experience. The former is discussion, the latter is giving head to your favorite religious icon.
Please note how other people, you know, the ones who put together coherent arguments and not religious nonsense, also got reasonable responses. If you are the only one who get vitriol and everybody else gets rational responses, perhaps the problem is with the person you see in the mirror.
Good point, you can't. I don't see how it would be an issue though, once you type a couple of characters the app will pop up in a list. An irritant, but nothing that would impede your work unless you have a lot of apps that start with the same number of characters. I would not mind a Start Screen that pops up as some sort of part overlay on the desktop though. That would be an improvement.
I can't see this being a major issue though. If you can remember the first couple or characters of your new apps name, you are good to go. I would call it a distracting element, but (to me) not distracting enough that I would hate it and refuse the 20% speed increase Win8 gives me.
1. Reliable shutdown under 3 seconds when 50 applications are open.
2. Able to read (and later print too) the file its own "print to file" option creates.
3. Multiple users logging in to the machine at once
Good points. Irritants, particularly no 1. Not irritants enough to make me switch my personal usage to an operating system that doesn't have the applications I need though. Linux doesn't, and Apple is just even less lack of options and more of a walled garden than is Windows.
#3 makes business sense, and I can understand MS wants to leave this to their enterprise offerings. It's an irritant for me too though. But, as I said, without a Photoshop equivalent (no Gimp is not) and similar, Linux is not an option for anything but development, where it shines.
So, you're saying you can't put together a coherent argument? Not surprising.
what does that make someone who posts outraged screeds when confronted with criticism of Windows 8?
I wasn't. There are plenty valid criticisms, even I have offered some, for example the fact that significant portions of important stuff is not touch enabled. I was confronted by religious drivel by someone who has never touched Win8 and who thinks (as is witnessed by the retarded comment at the end) he's met Jesus in an operating system.
That's either someone with his life invested in a Microsoft
At least 60% of my work day is spent on Ubuntu developing in Java (jBoss 6) and Ruby. Do you have a reading comprehension issue too?
go buy yourself a real operating system
And there was the proof. Windows is, for most things, the very, very best operating system out there today. It beats Linux in almost all areas, the main exception being the idiotic thing of having to run as admin for almost everything on a desktop OS. That part is gone now, so it isn't as valid any more, though the Windows equivalent of sudo is a little too easy to invoke.
I would dare anyone to list all advantages Linux have over Windows. The main real one is cost, and that only applies if you're an expert.
Linux simply isn't up to the task of being a desktop system for the average user. There are no real app choices for anything more than rudimentary work. Libre/Open Office is OK, but not up to the task of doing real documents, which is funny, I wrote all of my University stuff in LaTeX way back when since Word was not up to the task of doing structured documentation. LaTeX is still great for that, but Word is now functionally up to the task, and a hell of a lot better than LaTeX. Libre Office is playing in that field. There is no real image manipulation software for Linux. Gimp is close but lags Photoshop significantly if you produce for print, and I do (with my photography hobby). Linux has nothing like Lightroom. Eclipse is becoming a bloated behemoth of absurd girth (but there are decent alternatives). Linux it self is a overweight monster of bloat (according to Linus) etc.
But hey, list all the things that a "real operating system" has that Windows lacks. Betcha you can't.
Oh, and someone who is so seriously affected by Aspergers that they are willing to forego the 20% speed increase Windows 8 delivers over Windows 7 because of a tiny, non-detrimental UI change is just dumb IMnsHO.
Tell me then, if you're not a PR flack, just why are you so invested in a Microsoft product that you have to continuously have to write humongous screeds to defend every minor criticism?
Because I utterly despise idiots who spout nonsense about something they know nothing at all about. I develop in Ruby on Linux, in C# on Windows. I have been using Linux since SLS (and later Slackware), and I really, really like a lot of aspects of it. Morons who think that they have found Jesus just because they have moved into Linux or Apple rub me the wrong way. I hate religion, whether it involves fantasy bearded meanies in the sky or operating systems or hardware. Religion is bad for men no matter what form it comes in. The inane and insane ramblings of /. morons who feel superior for being off MS products are religious nuts, and they nothing but detrimental to software development, far more so than Microsoft, Apple, Google or whatever company it is fashionable to hate today. There is no difference between the average /. Linux (or Apple or...) fanboi and the average born-again evangelical nutcase. Someone who thinks an OS is terrible just because the cheese moved a tiny, tiny fraction, is a religious nut with a serious case of Aspergers.
Here is some reality for you: For the vast majority of the population, Windows is, by a very large margin, the best operating system out there. It beats OSX on availability, openness and usability, and it beats Linux (for users) on almost every single account. As great a system Linux is for development it is equally bad for production usage for the average user. An average user has no business using Linux simply because the few apps it has are poorly designed with crappy user interfaces.
For the Enterprise, Windows beats Linux in just about every area. Linux is not in the same ballpark as a well developed Windows network with AD etc. That's a simple fact. Linux is good for development on the desktop and for web deployment otherwise. To a degree also for database deployment, though I generally prefer other Unix(-like) systems to run my Oracle stuff. It wasn't always like that for sure, Microsoft was terribly late to the whole network thing in general (not even an IP stack available until Windows 3.1). That was then though, and judging a product on what it was 20 years ago is more than a little insane.
Now, to my PR shill aspects. It should be easy, even for religious nuts, to see that I am not a paid shill. There is no way any company PR person would allow their paid shills to call you a f*cking moron for bitching about the fact that someone moved your cheese a quarter of an inch. That type of statement is generally avoided by PR professionals given the fact that it tends to reflect negatively upon the company they work for. That also shows you that I am not defending MS here, not even close. I am attacking you for being a religious nut with Aspergers and too low an intelligence to be allowed out. I hate religious nuts. As the blog said: Yes Linus, Microsoft hating is a disease. And it's a pandemic. Disease is bad for the world, and we should be ridding the world of such diseases, one by one.
Too many things that we need to do can only me done in the desktop
I dub thee Sir Reason. This is the first valid criticism of Windows 8 on a tablet ever on /.
Also, just because someone doesn't agree with your ignorant retarded opinions, that doesn't make them a shill. Get a grip dude. You are seriously deranged.
You just told me to pay 5 dollars to get back to the way I used to launch programs in Windows
Wow, you really are retarded, are you not? Did you ask for you money back when they upgraded from Windows 3.x to Win95? Did you demand your cash back when they went from Windows XP/Vista to Windows 7? Did you throw a fit when Apple changed from the old finder to the new one?
Your retarded dishonesty is shining through big time. If you can't deal with a minor, inconsequential change, you have no business owning a computer, you are simply too rigid and too retarded. You'd think, from listening to you morons, this was the first time a software company made a tiny change to its user interface.
Oh, and since I use my computer for real work, the tiny "inconvenience" of having to learn a slightly new way to launch an application is more than offset by the 20% performance increase I get from Win8 over Win7. On the other hand, if you only use your computer to jerk off in front of, and it plays your mp4s fine, then I guess performance is trumped by the inconvenience of having to learn something new. You know, like the equivalent of launching apps from the desktop icons rather than the start menu. We all differ I guess.