The trouble is, baroque complexity of financial instruments and transactions was the primary concealment tool that allowed all the lying in the first place - lying to other institutions, to regulators, and certainly to the public that handed over all their dough at low interest because the institutions were so guaranteed-safe; and I suspect, they managed to lie to themselves.
The fundamental problem at this point is that the financial sector is dishonest, all that lying, starting with lying to itself. Does anyone in it even know what the truth is? They have been telling different lies to different people for so long, perhaps they can no longer tell the difference between what is true and what is false. And I should trust my money to these charlatans and liars!? I didn't get hurt so bad as many, but I wouldn't trust them, and suspect that those who were badly burned or who knows others who were badly burned--and that is a lot of people--won't trust them any time soon.
Sanctions? Yes, thanks for asking. They are eventually elected to public office and become successful politicians of either US major party... and filthy rich.
If VISTA is so sooper-dooper, why is there no mention of it on the front page of microsoft.com. Lots of other MS products, including Windows 7 Beta! Poor VISTA, she must feel unwanted even in her own birthplace. Strange way to treat your flagship product, if you are really, really proud of it.
Hmmh. You may be right. Given that everyone downgrading from VISTA to XP is--almost by definition--a Windows user, what does this say about Windows-lover's opinion of VISTA? Here, have a couple of "meaningless" anecdotes;-)
Meaningless Anecdote 1: One of my colleagues went to upgrade to VISTA a few days back. I'm only surprised it took him so long, as he has been dutifully following the MS upgrade treadmill since before WIN95, a Windows-lover's Windows-lover. VISTA refused to install on a 2.2GHz AMD64 with 2GB RAM. He is such a happy camper he started asking me about Linux. He is also tired of viruses, spyware worms etc. I burned the 5.3 LiveDVD of Scientific Linux for him, so he can see if he likes it and wants to install it.
Meaningless Anecdote 2 I installed Zenwalk Linux on my 79 year old Mom's compromised (by malware) XP computer two weeks ago. She does have an occasional question, however, she's enjoying the use of her computer again.:-)
If it made VISTA mandatory; and outlawed use of BSD, Linux, Solaris, and Mac O/S by anyone with long term jail sentences at hard labor, Microsoft would be praising it as progressive, enlightened, and humanistic.
Now I'm going to need a $300.00 "smartphone" to turn on my TV, radio etc? One which will be reporting on everything I do and where I do it? (Guess that's what really makes it smart-never mind if they don't now, they will, they will. Fuck this bullcrap. George Orwell must be spinning in his grave at relativistic speeds.
I think they pretty well explained their interest in the case when they said:
As an organization dedicated to the rights of computer users and their interaction with copyrighted works, we are concerned with the RIAA's attempt to redefine copyright law through legal proceedings against individuals who are generally unable to defend themselves.
Ray, do you think that the redefinition of copyright law may be the real goal of the RIAA, MPAA and other organizations of their ilk? You and others have occasionally said that the ill-will that is being created cannot possibly be balanced by the monetary payoff. If there is no monetary payoff, there must be an intangible payoff, and the erosion and elimination of user's rights could be an immediate goal. Thinking a little further, taking control of peoples' systems and turning it over to the cartels could have an enormous, if not unlimited, long-term payoff. The thought of root-kitting creeps like these being in control of everything is scary stuff. Glad I've been supporting the FSF.
Do you really walk around thinking you don't have free will?
Intuitively we grasp that our actions have consequences, and that, in order to get the consequences we want, we have to choose the right actions.
We all do stupid things, and a lot of people try to pass off the responsibility for their actions to other people, but as a society we have decided to hold each accountable for their own deeds.
Not sure where you got the idea that I'm walking around disbelieving in free will. It's been 20yrs since I doubted it. It is far better than being a pawn. And I hold myself accountable for my actions, mistakes included. We all fuck up, I'd like to have a day where I only made one mistake. Since I'm not a pawn, I can learn from my mistakes. Like I said, my life is better... far, far better now.
For myself, there's a psychological effect. When I have wanted to disbelieve free will, I also drifted towards victimhood. If I have free will, my choices matter and I can't be a victim. My life is better. YMMV.
Suppose you are right and MS does want mono to be implemented and succeed in Linux, BSD, etc. Why? Out of the goodness of their hearts?!!
To encourage the development of.NET applications. More.NET developers means more sales of Visual Studio products,...
Since.NET and Visual Studio are Windows-only, how are those reasons for MS to want mono to succeed on Linux, BSD and other libre systems?
this sort of baseless paranoia
Baseless paranoia? STAC, Netscape, the rape of JAVA are baseless? Besides, it is hardly paranoia when they are out to get you, and MS has made it abundantly and crystal clear that that is their goal. Some MS evaluations of Linux etc.: "cancer"... "communistic"... And, then there are the infamous Halloween Documents.
Ultimately mono/.net developers can code anything they want with mono/.net. That's their choice. The beauty of Linux and BSD is that they can't force it on a free (= libre) system. They and MS can cram mono/.net down Windows users throats and up Windows users' asses, but they can't force me to install it on my machine. That's my choice. I will use nothing but the cli first. I will pull the fucking plug out of the wall and drive my pickup over the motherboard first. Clear enough?
Hell, there's not even much reason to think Microsoft would want to torpedo Mono. They wouldn't have submitted their standard to ECMA if they didn't want it to be implemented.
Are you 100% certain? People have suggested (and it makes sense to me) that the current MS Office XML scheme (double entendre intended) was submitted to ECMA to fast track it to ISO so that once it was approved, MS could claim that their formats were open. That's a far cry from wanting anyone (other than themselves) to actually implement or even be to able to implement it correctly.
Suppose you are right and MS does want mono to be implemented and succeed in Linux, BSD, etc. Why? Out of the goodness of their hearts?!! Or is it a poison pill? Are you really 100% sure? I'm not. apt-get remove --purge mono libmono....
Not by far. The first thing I thought of was the Instrumentality... C'mell, Lord Jestocost, D'joan, and the Lady Johanna Gnade, in about that order. Glorious storytelling, I was in my early teens when these stories came out. The Instrumentality has an entry at Wikipedia, but the main stories are not linked to it...yet, although the Ballad of Lost C'mell, the Dead Lady of Clown Town, Norstrilia, and others have their own entries.
So to entice and please the several dozens (or hundreds) of Windows users who might try KDE, KDE has chosen to disorient and flip-off tens (or hundreds) of thousands of BSD and Linux users?
Goddamn.
You gotta be kidding. I'm sorry, that is fucking crazy. Personally, I could give a shit about Windows, Symbian, MAC-OSX, or what their users might like. KDE 2.2 was my first Linux and BSD desktop. I love KDE 3.5, and am posting from it. Fortunately, there's still alternatives like XFCE, fluxbox, FVWM, etc.
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The fundamental problem at this point is that the financial sector is dishonest, all that lying, starting with lying to itself. Does anyone in it even know what the truth is? They have been telling different lies to different people for so long, perhaps they can no longer tell the difference between what is true and what is false. And I should trust my money to these charlatans and liars!? I didn't get hurt so bad as many, but I wouldn't trust them, and suspect that those who were badly burned or who knows others who were badly burned--and that is a lot of people--won't trust them any time soon.
Looks like MS shills/apologists/marketers have mod points to burn. 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... mod me down, Windows-lovers.
Tables nicely turned. Mod parent up.
Sanctions? Yes, thanks for asking. They are eventually elected to public office and become successful politicians of either US major party ... and filthy rich.
If VISTA is so sooper-dooper, why is there no mention of it on the front page of microsoft.com. Lots of other MS products, including Windows 7 Beta! Poor VISTA, she must feel unwanted even in her own birthplace. Strange way to treat your flagship product, if you are really, really proud of it.
Hmmh. You may be right. Given that everyone downgrading from VISTA to XP is--almost by definition--a Windows user, what does this say about Windows-lover's opinion of VISTA? Here, have a couple of "meaningless" anecdotes ;-)
:-)
Meaningless Anecdote 1: One of my colleagues went to upgrade to VISTA a few days back. I'm only surprised it took him so long, as he has been dutifully following the MS upgrade treadmill since before WIN95, a Windows-lover's Windows-lover. VISTA refused to install on a 2.2GHz AMD64 with 2GB RAM. He is such a happy camper he started asking me about Linux. He is also tired of viruses, spyware worms etc. I burned the 5.3 LiveDVD of Scientific Linux for him, so he can see if he likes it and wants to install it.
Meaningless Anecdote 2 I installed Zenwalk Linux on my 79 year old Mom's compromised (by malware) XP computer two weeks ago. She does have an occasional question, however, she's enjoying the use of her computer again.
Have a nice day.
This is what they get for suing TomTom. What goes around..
He who lives by the sword ...
If it made VISTA mandatory; and outlawed use of BSD, Linux, Solaris, and Mac O/S by anyone with long term jail sentences at hard labor, Microsoft would be praising it as progressive, enlightened, and humanistic.
Had to be an iPod, not a Zune: Her Majesty has far too much gravitas to run around "squirting" people.
And MS and its shills will continue to claim to be mystified as to why so many people hate their guts. Doh.
ext2. fsck -U /dev/MS ;-)
Amen. Add 100% blocking of all text messages & it would be nirvana.
Now I'm going to need a $300.00 "smartphone" to turn on my TV, radio etc? One which will be reporting on everything I do and where I do it? (Guess that's what really makes it smart-never mind if they don't now, they will, they will. Fuck this bullcrap. George Orwell must be spinning in his grave at relativistic speeds.
Start putting SONY music CD's in your Windows machines.
I think they pretty well explained their interest in the case when they said:
As an organization dedicated to the rights of computer users and their interaction with copyrighted works, we are concerned with the RIAA's attempt to redefine copyright law through legal proceedings against individuals who are generally unable to defend themselves.
Ray, do you think that the redefinition of copyright law may be the real goal of the RIAA, MPAA and other organizations of their ilk? You and others have occasionally said that the ill-will that is being created cannot possibly be balanced by the monetary payoff. If there is no monetary payoff, there must be an intangible payoff, and the erosion and elimination of user's rights could be an immediate goal. Thinking a little further, taking control of peoples' systems and turning it over to the cartels could have an enormous, if not unlimited, long-term payoff. The thought of root-kitting creeps like these being in control of everything is scary stuff. Glad I've been supporting the FSF.
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Do you really walk around thinking you don't have free will?
Intuitively we grasp that our actions have consequences, and that, in order to get the consequences we want, we have to choose the right actions.
We all do stupid things, and a lot of people try to pass off the responsibility for their actions to other people, but as a society we have decided to hold each accountable for their own deeds.
Not sure where you got the idea that I'm walking around disbelieving in free will. It's been 20yrs since I doubted it. It is far better than being a pawn. And I hold myself accountable for my actions, mistakes included. We all fuck up, I'd like to have a day where I only made one mistake. Since I'm not a pawn, I can learn from my mistakes. Like I said, my life is better ... far, far better now.
For myself, there's a psychological effect. When I have wanted to disbelieve free will, I also drifted towards victimhood. If I have free will, my choices matter and I can't be a victim. My life is better. YMMV.
MS-loving mods have no sense of humor :-/ Such is life.
Truer words have never been said, or in this case, posted.
Is this just typical MS hypocrisy or is Ballmer turning into a Communist?
Yes. Read to the second line, where it says "Posted by ..." and skip those posted by kdawson. Simple and infallible. Next question.
Since .NET and Visual Studio are Windows-only, how are those reasons for MS to want mono to succeed on Linux, BSD and other libre systems?
Baseless paranoia? STAC, Netscape, the rape of JAVA are baseless? Besides, it is hardly paranoia when they are out to get you, and MS has made it abundantly and crystal clear that that is their goal. Some MS evaluations of Linux etc.: "cancer" ... "communistic"... And, then there are the infamous Halloween Documents.
Ultimately mono/.net developers can code anything they want with mono/.net. That's their choice. The beauty of Linux and BSD is that they can't force it on a free (= libre) system. They and MS can cram mono/.net down Windows users throats and up Windows users' asses, but they can't force me to install it on my machine. That's my choice. I will use nothing but the cli first. I will pull the fucking plug out of the wall and drive my pickup over the motherboard first. Clear enough?
Are you 100% certain? People have suggested (and it makes sense to me) that the current MS Office XML scheme (double entendre intended) was submitted to ECMA to fast track it to ISO so that once it was approved, MS could claim that their formats were open. That's a far cry from wanting anyone (other than themselves) to actually implement or even be to able to implement it correctly.
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Suppose you are right and MS does want mono to be implemented and succeed in Linux, BSD, etc. Why? Out of the goodness of their hearts?!! Or is it a poison pill? Are you really 100% sure? I'm not. apt-get remove --purge mono libmono
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Not by far. The first thing I thought of was the Instrumentality ... C'mell, Lord Jestocost, D'joan, and the Lady Johanna Gnade, in about that order. Glorious storytelling, I was in my early teens when these stories came out. The Instrumentality has an entry at Wikipedia, but the main stories are not linked to it ...yet, although the Ballad of Lost C'mell, the Dead Lady of Clown Town, Norstrilia, and others have their own entries.
So to entice and please the several dozens (or hundreds) of Windows users who might try KDE, KDE has chosen to disorient and flip-off tens (or hundreds) of thousands of BSD and Linux users?
Goddamn.
You gotta be kidding. I'm sorry, that is fucking crazy. Personally, I could give a shit about Windows, Symbian, MAC-OSX, or what their users might like. KDE 2.2 was my first Linux and BSD desktop. I love KDE 3.5, and am posting from it. Fortunately, there's still alternatives like XFCE, fluxbox, FVWM, etc.
Goddamn.