Sorry I don't mean that they are offering this, what I mean is if they didn't take advantage of viewers upload bandwidth, they would have to find this bandwidth elsewhere, which means higher cost... and guess who that higher cost would get passed on to?
So the choice is pay part cash part bandwidth, or pay more cash. They've figured most people would rather pay less, so have made the choice for you. If there's a market for people who'd rather pay more, I'm sure someone will fill that gap.
"1GB at my best guess would bring in about 50-60 movies live"
Bring in... or send out? Presumably this is the size of their pipe, so you're saying they can support 50-60 viewers at a time (+small amount of bandwidth shared by viewers). That's not a hell of a lot.
It's also really inefficient... if only we could split/double up the IP packets at a latter stage, so a single packets would have multiple IP's, and get split up by routers along the way...
The other way I guess is ISP level proxies for it.
Sending the reset packets is like a 'fire and forget'... if the reset packets are ignored, then you actually have to completely close off the connection, which means stateful connection tracking on every single tcp connection going through that gets blocked. I don't know how often a connection gets blocked by this firewall, but I can see number of connections that need to be remembered mounting up pretty quickly... and then every packets that flows through needing to be compared to make sure it's not part of a connection that should have been dropped.
This does change the entire way the firewall must work.
Yeah but if you're confident that a patent is obvious enough, means you can just go ahead and use it anyway, knowing that any litigation that comes your way is only ever gonna get as far as the supreme court (jk)
Well I, more cleverly (therefore less obviously), patented unobvious patents, which means that all patents must pay royalties to me, or else be struck down in an moronic twist of fate:-p
"This was a response to a person suggesting that the Internet was little more than servers that do domain resolution and such"
It was... but things started falling over and routers had to be made more intelligent, to route traffic in the best possible way, to stop all those netquakes that used to happen a lot more frequently. If we wanna build a cheap internet, that's what we'd be going back to. But even that's still relative... even with the cheapest hardware, laying cables around the world (to avoid the using telco's etc)... yeah we gotta be talking billions by itself!
Being rude does you no favours, especially when you missed the point of the post you're replying to. What I'm saying is that when somebody spends their life accumulating great wealth (with wealth comes greater ability to accumulate more) from the rich (by global standards), then gives it away to the poor (by global standards), then what they're doing is: stealing from the rich, and giving to the poor.
If you were realistic about helping people in the world, you'd know that the way to do this was to accumulate a great wealth, and then turn your focus, because it's at that point you've really got the power to do something. I'm not saying this is anything more than a tax dodge, maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but the effect is the same.
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"How the hell do they think that they're QUALIFIED to design a life critical componant like this?"
How is calculating the fastest route round a cone layed out track "life critical"?
Unless they maintain ratios... the more you upload, the faster you're allowed to download
"I don't see anything in the articles about that"
Sorry I don't mean that they are offering this, what I mean is if they didn't take advantage of viewers upload bandwidth, they would have to find this bandwidth elsewhere, which means higher cost... and guess who that higher cost would get passed on to?
So the choice is pay part cash part bandwidth, or pay more cash. They've figured most people would rather pay less, so have made the choice for you. If there's a market for people who'd rather pay more, I'm sure someone will fill that gap.
"1GB at my best guess would bring in about 50-60 movies live"
Bring in... or send out? Presumably this is the size of their pipe, so you're saying they can support 50-60 viewers at a time (+small amount of bandwidth shared by viewers). That's not a hell of a lot.
It's also really inefficient... if only we could split/double up the IP packets at a latter stage, so a single packets would have multiple IP's, and get split up by routers along the way...
The other way I guess is ISP level proxies for it.
No, you're paying once, but in two different ways; two different currencies.
If you don't wanna contribute to the upload, you gotta pay them more because they need a bigger out pipe.
firewall would get you too ;-)
If only we could have a firewall rule for moderators without a sense of humour *lol*
Because if you keep heating hot water, it goes all the way around until it's cold again
yeah mean, it's acturary spert "mongorian"?
Because of the legally binding EULA attached to every packet :-)
In the Republic of China, firewall slashdots you!
Sending the reset packets is like a 'fire and forget'... if the reset packets are ignored, then you actually have to completely close off the connection, which means stateful connection tracking on every single tcp connection going through that gets blocked. I don't know how often a connection gets blocked by this firewall, but I can see number of connections that need to be remembered mounting up pretty quickly... and then every packets that flows through needing to be compared to make sure it's not part of a connection that should have been dropped.
This does change the entire way the firewall must work.
What, and turn the filtering firewall into a /dev/null where no packets can get in *or* out... yeah, that'll show 'em!
Not with those eyes, they only get access to underscore dot.
But can we use this with a machine coded matrix to get Jack Bauer out?
Because you touch yourself at night
That's the last time you break down my shitty firewall!
Jeez, why is it everytime chinese build a wall, those damn mongolians gotta break it down?
Why bother when we can LAUNCH NUKES at the incoming CMEs!!!
Quickly, ready the missiles!
"they need to eat too"
;-)
You've obviously never properly got to know any lawyers. They only pretend to eat so we believe they're human
Yeah but if you're confident that a patent is obvious enough, means you can just go ahead and use it anyway, knowing that any litigation that comes your way is only ever gonna get as far as the supreme court (jk)
Well I, more cleverly (therefore less obviously), patented unobvious patents, which means that all patents must pay royalties to me, or else be struck down in an moronic twist of fate :-p
"I like the speed of Digg more"
:-p
...does it run Linux?
"This was a response to a person suggesting that the Internet was little more than servers that do domain resolution and such"
It was... but things started falling over and routers had to be made more intelligent, to route traffic in the best possible way, to stop all those netquakes that used to happen a lot more frequently. If we wanna build a cheap internet, that's what we'd be going back to. But even that's still relative... even with the cheapest hardware, laying cables around the world (to avoid the using telco's etc)... yeah we gotta be talking billions by itself!
Your thoughts are quite clear, and mine were just a twist on yours, not a disagreement, and they're not actually incompatible.
Being rude does you no favours, especially when you missed the point of the post you're replying to. What I'm saying is that when somebody spends their life accumulating great wealth (with wealth comes greater ability to accumulate more) from the rich (by global standards), then gives it away to the poor (by global standards), then what they're doing is: stealing from the rich, and giving to the poor.
If you were realistic about helping people in the world, you'd know that the way to do this was to accumulate a great wealth, and then turn your focus, because it's at that point you've really got the power to do something. I'm not saying this is anything more than a tax dodge, maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but the effect is the same.