Good point. Desalination typically does produce a lot of "gunk".
Even ones using old fashioned multistage evaporation still has large quantities of residue left.
We could take that plastic-filled residue and dump it in the nearest Marianas Trench, thus providing food for the next invading aliens, or we could just give up and pretend we can't do something with it.
No, grids work by power flow, and if you've ever driven along I-5 where most of the canal infrastructure is colocated with, you'd know that the high power lines go along that route too.
Used to be a power engineer. Studying for PhD in C&EE with focus on power systems.
A lot of Cali energy comes from as far away as BC. Used to provide it myself and helped set up the intertie disconnects at the borders as part of the Y2K/wildfire/quake safety prep.
Replace power in one place and you push fewer electrons in another place, power loss drops as fewer electrons pushed from low demand high supply area to high demand low supply area.
I'm working on multi-system integration of solar wind hydro and other systems, and use of biofuel shaping. Which is another can of worms, of course.
Desal is a good coastal solution, which the maps show could help, but you still have to pump it up. Good use for solar/wind (variable supplies can run pumps fairly well, with stop systems, to resupply reservoirs).
But... have to fix the water demand part of the equation first, and the loss of water/soil that feeds that cycle. There's your big problem.
Colors are really just spectral bands, UV and IR are just bands beyond human perception (caveat: not all humans, some can see a bit into the UV range).
In short, if you have things like SAD, increasing the spectra which penetrate in the morning (remember in the dawn the light goes through a large swath of atmosphere, not the small amount at noon) and adding those 1-2 hours before increases your internal body temperature in a manner similar to waking up due to daylight.
Yes, this works through eyelids (mostly transparent), so setting a clock to turn on high lumen lights (use a cheap timer) will wake you up and allow you to reset your body clock.
I prefer the farmers move out. Those assholes use 60% of the water.
Actually, there are some easy fixes to use less water.
1. Stop subsidizing agricultural water use.
2. Plant mixed crops (alternate rows) and plant cover crops between tree rows. Bonus: more soil retention, more water retention, easier to control pests.
3. Plant barrier trees around fields. Birds on those eat pests, Trees reduce soil loss, and water loss.
We learned this all in the 1970s in British Columbia, just north of Seattle. Adapt.
Usage is the major problem. Here in Seattle we use 1/4th as much water per capita as wasteful Californians do.
One fourth.
We actually grow plants that are suited for our local environment instead of lawns, we put green roofs on our buildings to slow down water loss and clean up rainwater and retain it, we don't subsidize crop water like California does.
Adapt. We already did. And growing grass is not adapting.
One would need a massive inland industrial solar facility to power a desalinator. Assuming such a facility could be built it might be better put to other uses. A far more practical plan would involve massive updating of water policy and watering techniques in California agriculture. That is where 80% of the water goes.
Or you could just put solar panels on top of your water canals, which would cut their evaporation to 1/10th, and provide power for desalination.
No, seriously, half of the Washington State counties are already in Drought Emergency, and we barely have enough water to provide bottled water to all the Hollywood folk drinking bottled water that is really our tap water from Seattle (Tolt River watershed).
Stop subsidizing agricultural water use for "high-profit" water using crops. That might actually work.
We use 1/4th the water in Seattle that you water wasters in California use. One-fourth. Per capita.
Unless it's in China, who the heck wears a watch nowadays, other than old people?
I mean, come on!
And why would I want to be constantly interrupted by stuff I don't want to do anything about?
Maybe an Apple Monocle. That I could see. Give it a wider spectra range so I can see IR and UV and display stuff, but pop out of the eye when I don't want to be bothered, like a real monocle. Totally retro steampunk. That's the ticket!
Lol. Do you not get that I spend a lot of time talking with economists and financial experts around the world?
I already told you where to look. The fact that you're too lazy to, tells me that you're just trying to fit things into your incorrect failed notions of how the world works.
The world cares nothing for your ancient religions.
Wrong. Much discussion of this among economic circles, and back and forth analysis. Turns out the underlying concept that higher minimum wage "must" create more unemployment is an artifact of the labor as machine 18th century argument, and has little to do with how modern hollowed-out societies function.
Look, I know you're upset, but facts don't care about your theories.
But if you raise the minimum wage to say $15/hour like Seattle and other places, statistics show job growth of US citizens will increase and they will hire more Americans to work!
Citation needed. Preferably one with a post-analysis of the Seattle job market, with another graph showing impact (if any) on number of small businesses in the immediate area.
Read The Fine Manual (it's all online, various articles in Seattle Times, ignore the state numbers, read the last 2-3 paras which cover King County and Seattle)
Seriously, do you guys not grok the 100 Gbps Internet 2 or something?
look, I work with statisticians each and every day. you can keep pretending that, but it won't change that a higher minimum wage in the cities that passed it has actually DECREASED unemployment.
Btw, stats like the ones you refer to are lagging indicators. Real economists do walk arounds, look for cars in parking lots (won't work in high tech cities, we are getting rid of cars), count help wanted signs, talk to specific businesses.
Sorry, but actual drill down statistics in those areas show that in fact, the implementation of a higher minimum wage in those areas increase the literal number of jobs and decreased the literal unemployment rates.
You're confusing the media practice of showing statewide unemployment totals (where the cities carry the weight for the slacker rural areas) and the countywide rates (where the cities carry the weight for the slacker suburban areas).
Lots of help wanted signs in all the locations that actually implemented higher minimum wages. More than there used to be.
So, in point of fact, increasing the min wage in the tech cities would actually force out H1-B imports, as there is no incentive to hire foreign workers over citizens, especially with an expanded job pool.
First. I argue about economic statistics all the time with the local MSM that pretend unemployment is low (quite high in many parts of the state, and even the county, and even in the city for certain populations), but I also point out to them that the actual rate in the actual cities that did this IS MUCH LOWER.
Which is backed up by the municipal, county, and state level statistics.
Sorry your myth doesn't hold up. But raising minimum wage has only been shown to increase jobs. At least in the urban cities that have done it.
I don't really care about how dysfunctional rural areas are, I grew up in them, there are frictions involved in employment there which do not exist in high tech cities at all.
wrong. there is a much lower unemployment rate in the actual areas with increased minimum wages than the areas that did not increase minimum wages. Shows at the city and county statistical levels.
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Good point. Desalination typically does produce a lot of "gunk".
Even ones using old fashioned multistage evaporation still has large quantities of residue left.
We could take that plastic-filled residue and dump it in the nearest Marianas Trench, thus providing food for the next invading aliens, or we could just give up and pretend we can't do something with it.
We've had those before, where certain galaxies distort the emissions quite a bit.
I'll wait for the follow up science before I "worry".
No, grids work by power flow, and if you've ever driven along I-5 where most of the canal infrastructure is colocated with, you'd know that the high power lines go along that route too.
Used to be a power engineer. Studying for PhD in C&EE with focus on power systems.
A lot of Cali energy comes from as far away as BC. Used to provide it myself and helped set up the intertie disconnects at the borders as part of the Y2K/wildfire/quake safety prep.
Replace power in one place and you push fewer electrons in another place, power loss drops as fewer electrons pushed from low demand high supply area to high demand low supply area.
I'm working on multi-system integration of solar wind hydro and other systems, and use of biofuel shaping. Which is another can of worms, of course.
Desal is a good coastal solution, which the maps show could help, but you still have to pump it up. Good use for solar/wind (variable supplies can run pumps fairly well, with stop systems, to resupply reservoirs).
But ... have to fix the water demand part of the equation first, and the loss of water/soil that feeds that cycle. There's your big problem.
Colors are really just spectral bands, UV and IR are just bands beyond human perception (caveat: not all humans, some can see a bit into the UV range).
In short, if you have things like SAD, increasing the spectra which penetrate in the morning (remember in the dawn the light goes through a large swath of atmosphere, not the small amount at noon) and adding those 1-2 hours before increases your internal body temperature in a manner similar to waking up due to daylight.
Yes, this works through eyelids (mostly transparent), so setting a clock to turn on high lumen lights (use a cheap timer) will wake you up and allow you to reset your body clock.
I prefer the farmers move out. Those assholes use 60% of the water.
Actually, there are some easy fixes to use less water.
1. Stop subsidizing agricultural water use.
2. Plant mixed crops (alternate rows) and plant cover crops between tree rows. Bonus: more soil retention, more water retention, easier to control pests.
3. Plant barrier trees around fields. Birds on those eat pests, Trees reduce soil loss, and water loss.
We learned this all in the 1970s in British Columbia, just north of Seattle. Adapt.
Rain forests actually create their own rain and water. It's a known scientific fact.
The height of the trees creates clouds that seed themeselves to rain.
Chopping stuff down just causes massive wildfires and mudslides.
(hmm, that does sound like the coast of Southern California)
1-rainwater cisterns to catch rainwater instead of dumping it in the ocean.
You must be from the east coast. A lot of western states make rainwater cisterns illegal.
We were talking about you stealing water from Seattle. Rain cisterns are legal in Seattle.
Usage is the major problem. Here in Seattle we use 1/4th as much water per capita as wasteful Californians do.
One fourth.
We actually grow plants that are suited for our local environment instead of lawns, we put green roofs on our buildings to slow down water loss and clean up rainwater and retain it, we don't subsidize crop water like California does.
Adapt. We already did. And growing grass is not adapting.
One would need a massive inland industrial solar facility to power a desalinator. Assuming such a facility could be built it might be better put to other uses. A far more practical plan would involve massive updating of water policy and watering techniques in California agriculture. That is where 80% of the water goes.
Or you could just put solar panels on top of your water canals, which would cut their evaporation to 1/10th, and provide power for desalination.
But that would work.
No, seriously, half of the Washington State counties are already in Drought Emergency, and we barely have enough water to provide bottled water to all the Hollywood folk drinking bottled water that is really our tap water from Seattle (Tolt River watershed).
Stop subsidizing agricultural water use for "high-profit" water using crops. That might actually work.
We use 1/4th the water in Seattle that you water wasters in California use. One-fourth. Per capita.
Change YOUR behavior.
Then we'll talk.
That's why it's trendy. Scarce resource.
Actually the Casio is now fabu!
It's trendy.
Strange how that happens.
But why not a verbal command?
Something like "STFU Apple Watch"
or "Frak Off Apple"
Unless it's in China, who the heck wears a watch nowadays, other than old people?
I mean, come on!
And why would I want to be constantly interrupted by stuff I don't want to do anything about?
Maybe an Apple Monocle. That I could see. Give it a wider spectra range so I can see IR and UV and display stuff, but pop out of the eye when I don't want to be bothered, like a real monocle. Totally retro steampunk. That's the ticket!
It's how they "make their mark".
Doesn't matter if it's a good idea, the markets react positively to it, because everyone only thinks of this quarter, and maybe the next.
I hear China is putting 3D printers in all schools and universities nationwide.
Maybe if they picked up some Mandarin they might find a job?
Well, actually, not really.
Nobody ever believed them.
Hmm, wonder why?
Lol. Do you not get that I spend a lot of time talking with economists and financial experts around the world?
I already told you where to look. The fact that you're too lazy to, tells me that you're just trying to fit things into your incorrect failed notions of how the world works.
The world cares nothing for your ancient religions.
And thus the large increase in help wanted signs is a unicorn.
Right.
Keep telling yourself that.
While we crush your failed economic policies.
Wrong. Much discussion of this among economic circles, and back and forth analysis. Turns out the underlying concept that higher minimum wage "must" create more unemployment is an artifact of the labor as machine 18th century argument, and has little to do with how modern hollowed-out societies function.
Look, I know you're upset, but facts don't care about your theories.
Adapt. Because there are no other choices.
But if you raise the minimum wage to say $15/hour like Seattle and other places, statistics show job growth of US citizens will increase and they will hire more Americans to work!
Citation needed. Preferably one with a post-analysis of the Seattle job market, with another graph showing impact (if any) on number of small businesses in the immediate area.
Read The Fine Manual (it's all online, various articles in Seattle Times, ignore the state numbers, read the last 2-3 paras which cover King County and Seattle)
Seriously, do you guys not grok the 100 Gbps Internet 2 or something?
nope. stats are national.
look, I work with statisticians each and every day. you can keep pretending that, but it won't change that a higher minimum wage in the cities that passed it has actually DECREASED unemployment.
Btw, stats like the ones you refer to are lagging indicators. Real economists do walk arounds, look for cars in parking lots (won't work in high tech cities, we are getting rid of cars), count help wanted signs, talk to specific businesses.
Sorry, but actual drill down statistics in those areas show that in fact, the implementation of a higher minimum wage in those areas increase the literal number of jobs and decreased the literal unemployment rates.
You're confusing the media practice of showing statewide unemployment totals (where the cities carry the weight for the slacker rural areas) and the countywide rates (where the cities carry the weight for the slacker suburban areas).
Lots of help wanted signs in all the locations that actually implemented higher minimum wages. More than there used to be.
So, in point of fact, increasing the min wage in the tech cities would actually force out H1-B imports, as there is no incentive to hire foreign workers over citizens, especially with an expanded job pool.
First. I argue about economic statistics all the time with the local MSM that pretend unemployment is low (quite high in many parts of the state, and even the county, and even in the city for certain populations), but I also point out to them that the actual rate in the actual cities that did this IS MUCH LOWER.
Which is backed up by the municipal, county, and state level statistics.
Sorry your myth doesn't hold up. But raising minimum wage has only been shown to increase jobs. At least in the urban cities that have done it.
I don't really care about how dysfunctional rural areas are, I grew up in them, there are frictions involved in employment there which do not exist in high tech cities at all.
wrong. there is a much lower unemployment rate in the actual areas with increased minimum wages than the areas that did not increase minimum wages. Shows at the city and county statistical levels.