I think one of the underrated aspects of this movie is how it was dealing with Human and Machine evolution at the same time. HAL was the only one on the mission with the security clearance to know what the mission was really about. Secret's aren't really good for anyone.
I wonder if it will boot the NetBSD and all the open code it is based on that allows Apple to 'Think Different'. Perhaps this what Jobs meant when he said "Good artists copy, great artists steal".
I love how you dismiss anyone who comes to a different conclusion as you as "programmed" and "deceived."
You demonstrate traits of being emotionally unstable which makes you prone to being manipulated. I'm not blaming you, you didn't consent however only you can choose to step out of that.
As if there is only one set of values: your own and everyone else is factually wrong.
Not really, just that your actions are predictable.
You people despise our Constitution, especially the First and boy do you hate the Second.
You're projecting again. I've actually have a track record of defending free speech, anti-censorship, and democratic issues that goes back to the 1990s. I've got no problem with either of those amendment, though you might want to consider some mental health checks for firearms, especially for teenagers.
Arguing in its favor is fundamentally a bad faith argument, like an American racist (but I repeat myself) pretending to care about black on black violence and using that to make a point.
I don't really understand what that means.
I also love experiencing your contempt calling me a peon.
You're welcome. Maybe it will wake you up to your slavery but I can't do much more to help you, I don't care enough.
Boy I wonder why nobody is voting for you!
Hahaha - you think I have an agenda. I wouldn't make the sacrifice of leading you, it would be easier to trigger and manipulate you. How do you feel knowing deep down inside that I'm right because you've demonstrated you didn't have anything to add to the conversation.
Well that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
The *fact* remains that *all* of the most oppressive legislative changes in the last 18 years have been constructed and passed by right wing governments in all western countries. You don't seem to have an explanation why those governments are putting Soviet era criminal codes in western law.
What you call the "Left" and "Right" of politics appear to have the same agenda and it's not just the US, it's all western countries. It's clear your expression of what you think is "free speech" is the rhetoric you have been programmed to think. That's the great thing about free speech, it exposes people locked into low levels of problem solving.
I doubt you've even written a letter to a congresscritter to try to defend your constitution otherwise you would have mentioned it and outlined the nature of your defense. What you have displayed is a bunch of projection onto your "opponents" of what you're upset about in yourself, your own failings. It's not your fault, you've been deceived into thinking that way. Only you can choose to break out of it however comforting you find the illusion.
If you are unable to evolve out of your limited mindset the end of the road you are participating in is neither communism or capitalism, it's feudalism. I encourage you to continue expressing your free speech as it is always funny to look at the attitude of feudalistic peons who choose to show how batshit crazy they are.
All the best to you however I don't see you contributing much more to this conversation.
I heard there was a way to convert them to android. I think the hardware is ok, I'm just not very comfortable with the attitude that comes with the software.
My still works, though I don't have use any apps. I simply didn't install any of apple's software updates and the phone still works pretty well and has decent battery life.
Nay. Name a time the Right has silenced anyone in the last two decades. The Right is committed to the Constitution.
President W bypassed the US AG to grant himself wartime powers. Then passed the patriot act which effectively trashed the US Forth Amendment. The same acts were passed in every western country, all by right wing governments who trashed similar freedoms in those countries as well.
I read three of those acts and *specifically* identified issues like body cavity searching children as young as eight and wrote to over 100 politicians demanding that part of the act be removed if they had to pass these powers.
So what did you do back then to defend constitutional freedoms?
The Left views the Constitution as an outdated relic that needs to be trashed.
The Left maintains the status quo that the right establishes. That is why it is referred to as The Establishment. It's a thought pattern that is obsolete.
And it seems the US left side hasn't really learned from this. You're just doubling down on the criticism of The Other.
He said, doubling down on the criticism of The Other.
Youtube and Facebook and all the big tech are censoring them, and people who claim to believe in Net Neutrality excuse this as 'a private company censoring people doesn't violate the First Amendment'. Which is true, but irrelevant.
I'm glad you use your freedom of speech to show everyone how crazy you are.
Pushing people out of polite society is pushing them to the support the far right, and yet the media both old and new seems intent on this. So is excusing violence from AntiFa and the media seem intent on that too.
There are no ears in US politics, only mouths.
Something very nasty is happening to America,
Yes. Your country is leading the way in implementing the soviet criminal code in all western countries. Can you explain why the *right* is doing this? If you read the laws instead of watching TV you would understand this. Instead you're gaslit into attacking the people that are trying to defend you. Have you actually *read* the patriot Act?
and you're not helping to stop it.
A week ago I finished a month long project to analyse almost 200 pages of legislation and wrote a 30 page critique of a law designed to provide warrantless searches of people's mobile phones in every western country, including the US. You're trolling the person defending your freedom of speech and association.
Everyone has got to know about this international intelligence sharing agreement EchelonUKUSA/SIGINT that created 5 eyes by now. Surely? It has been in operation since the 1940's. I shouldn't be surprised that not even the article mentions it. It is the governance document for this kind of telecommunications surveillance.
I have a scan of the agreement however I've found it difficult to find the text online. The NSA links to the UK/USA seems to be broken for me. Maybe they're just interested in who is interested.;). However a bit more digging and I found this article from the guardian that link to UK National Archive copy of the agreement. It was not available online for some time after I got it - so I suggest you grab a copy to get some idea how this agreement works. After all that's one reason it was kept secret for so long.
Essentially agencies can't spy on domestic citizens so they ask a counterpart agency to spy for them. I read somewhere that even back as far as the 90's it was doing signal processing to "gist" (as in get the gist of) about 500,000 phone conversations using data centers the size of football fields and promote them to analysts automatically. They had two nuclear submarines that would be positioned over undersea fibre optic telecommunications nodes so I think you can surmise just how well funded this agreement is if five western nations are involved.
It is like a Berlin wall of surveillance for the western world.
Also on CMO you will see nuclear is safer than solar, safer than everything really, and uses comparatively little material resources per energy produced.
I believe the main problem with your argument is that you are a poopy-head. If you just want to bring the level of your debate to name calling then I'll reciprocate. Just because you are using multisyllabic verbiage to make your ad hominem doesn't mean it's any more valid as an argument.
You don't have all the facts and refuse any given to you. Therefore your statements don't have any credibility.
How about we drop all the funding for shills, stop all the government subsidies, and let the open market pick a winner?
As Nuclear power is the only thing benefiting from this, it sounds like a great idea. Solar and Wind will continue to improve and investments in Nuclear power will seem like the insanity that they are.
Humanity made a big mistake choosing Uranium over Thorium and now we can't go back because of the spent fuel we have lying around.
Future investments in Nuclear will come in the form of solar and wind powered accelerators that destroy the spent fuel. It's a shame all of the nuclear advocates here couldn't get over their collective ideology and see through the inherent problems nuclear power has so that they could be fixed.
They were too busy blaming all of the people opposing coal and oil while the coal and oil lobby turned nuclear power into on gigantic tax break for their utility companies.
Nuclear power is the safest and lowest CO2 producing energy source we have.
Uh, no. Solar, Wind, Hydro and geothermal are all lower than Nuclear. You can check Low-carbon Power which does list Nuclear above solar, however it references the Vatenfall literature which has significant problems with its method.
No. The heat exchangers aren't usually near the core of the reactor, so only get relatively low levels of radiation.
Indeed. I was considering it from the perspective of the cladding around the fuel rods. I'm uncertain if it would have much of an impact between the primary and secondary cooling loops in a PWR as you have mentioned.
As for a molten salt reactor, the salt would carry the isotope around so in that situation the heat exchanger would be exposed. I should have mentioned those scenarios when I posted - thanks for the opportunity to clear that up.
Slashdot Mirror
I think one of the underrated aspects of this movie is how it was dealing with Human and Machine evolution at the same time. HAL was the only one on the mission with the security clearance to know what the mission was really about. Secret's aren't really good for anyone.
R.I.P Mr Rain.
I wonder if it will boot the NetBSD and all the open code it is based on that allows Apple to 'Think Different'. Perhaps this what Jobs meant when he said "Good artists copy, great artists steal".
I love how you dismiss anyone who comes to a different conclusion as you as "programmed" and "deceived."
You demonstrate traits of being emotionally unstable which makes you prone to being manipulated. I'm not blaming you, you didn't consent however only you can choose to step out of that.
As if there is only one set of values: your own and everyone else is factually wrong.
Not really, just that your actions are predictable.
You people despise our Constitution, especially the First and boy do you hate the Second.
You're projecting again. I've actually have a track record of defending free speech, anti-censorship, and democratic issues that goes back to the 1990s. I've got no problem with either of those amendment, though you might want to consider some mental health checks for firearms, especially for teenagers.
Arguing in its favor is fundamentally a bad faith argument, like an American racist (but I repeat myself) pretending to care about black on black violence and using that to make a point.
I don't really understand what that means.
I also love experiencing your contempt calling me a peon.
You're welcome. Maybe it will wake you up to your slavery but I can't do much more to help you, I don't care enough.
Boy I wonder why nobody is voting for you!
Hahaha - you think I have an agenda. I wouldn't make the sacrifice of leading you, it would be easier to trigger and manipulate you. How do you feel knowing deep down inside that I'm right because you've demonstrated you didn't have anything to add to the conversation.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
Well that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
The *fact* remains that *all* of the most oppressive legislative changes in the last 18 years have been constructed and passed by right wing governments in all western countries. You don't seem to have an explanation why those governments are putting Soviet era criminal codes in western law.
What you call the "Left" and "Right" of politics appear to have the same agenda and it's not just the US, it's all western countries. It's clear your expression of what you think is "free speech" is the rhetoric you have been programmed to think. That's the great thing about free speech, it exposes people locked into low levels of problem solving.
I doubt you've even written a letter to a congresscritter to try to defend your constitution otherwise you would have mentioned it and outlined the nature of your defense. What you have displayed is a bunch of projection onto your "opponents" of what you're upset about in yourself, your own failings. It's not your fault, you've been deceived into thinking that way. Only you can choose to break out of it however comforting you find the illusion.
If you are unable to evolve out of your limited mindset the end of the road you are participating in is neither communism or capitalism, it's feudalism. I encourage you to continue expressing your free speech as it is always funny to look at the attitude of feudalistic peons who choose to show how batshit crazy they are.
All the best to you however I don't see you contributing much more to this conversation.
I heard there was a way to convert them to android. I think the hardware is ok, I'm just not very comfortable with the attitude that comes with the software.
Ah. Just wanted a simple phone then. ;)
hahaha - I didn't buy it, it was supplied.
What do you use it for then?
To make phone calls.
Same here, but it is very slow, limited,
My still works, though I don't have use any apps. I simply didn't install any of apple's software updates and the phone still works pretty well and has decent battery life.
It's a pretty solid phone.
Nay. Name a time the Right has silenced anyone in the last two decades. The Right is committed to the Constitution.
President W bypassed the US AG to grant himself wartime powers. Then passed the patriot act which effectively trashed the US Forth Amendment. The same acts were passed in every western country, all by right wing governments who trashed similar freedoms in those countries as well.
I read three of those acts and *specifically* identified issues like body cavity searching children as young as eight and wrote to over 100 politicians demanding that part of the act be removed if they had to pass these powers.
So what did you do back then to defend constitutional freedoms?
The Left views the Constitution as an outdated relic that needs to be trashed.
The Left maintains the status quo that the right establishes. That is why it is referred to as The Establishment. It's a thought pattern that is obsolete.
And it seems the US left side hasn't really learned from this. You're just doubling down on the criticism of The Other.
He said, doubling down on the criticism of The Other.
Youtube and Facebook and all the big tech are censoring them, and people who claim to believe in Net Neutrality excuse this as 'a private company censoring people doesn't violate the First Amendment'. Which is true, but irrelevant.
I'm glad you use your freedom of speech to show everyone how crazy you are.
Pushing people out of polite society is pushing them to the support the far right, and yet the media both old and new seems intent on this. So is excusing violence from AntiFa and the media seem intent on that too.
There are no ears in US politics, only mouths.
Something very nasty is happening to America,
Yes. Your country is leading the way in implementing the soviet criminal code in all western countries. Can you explain why the *right* is doing this? If you read the laws instead of watching TV you would understand this. Instead you're gaslit into attacking the people that are trying to defend you. Have you actually *read* the patriot Act?
and you're not helping to stop it.
A week ago I finished a month long project to analyse almost 200 pages of legislation and wrote a 30 page critique of a law designed to provide warrantless searches of people's mobile phones in every western country, including the US. You're trolling the person defending your freedom of speech and association.
yep - this is THE scene - thanks!
See you ad dhe pardy Richtder!
Leftists have little use for free speech and will happily silence those with whom they disagree. As is happening here.
Interesting. Aren't you doing to leftist's what you say they are doing?
Are rightist's any different?
Seems like the whole left right paradigm has had its day.
Everyone has got to know about this international intelligence sharing agreement Echelon UKUSA/SIGINT that created 5 eyes by now. Surely? It has been in operation since the 1940's. I shouldn't be surprised that not even the article mentions it. It is the governance document for this kind of telecommunications surveillance.
I have a scan of the agreement however I've found it difficult to find the text online. The NSA links to the UK/USA seems to be broken for me. Maybe they're just interested in who is interested. ;). However a bit more digging and I found this article from the guardian that link to UK National Archive copy of the agreement. It was not available online for some time after I got it - so I suggest you grab a copy to get some idea how this agreement works. After all that's one reason it was kept secret for so long.
Essentially agencies can't spy on domestic citizens so they ask a counterpart agency to spy for them. I read somewhere that even back as far as the 90's it was doing signal processing to "gist" (as in get the gist of) about 500,000 phone conversations using data centers the size of football fields and promote them to analysts automatically. They had two nuclear submarines that would be positioned over undersea fibre optic telecommunications nodes so I think you can surmise just how well funded this agreement is if five western nations are involved.
It is like a Berlin wall of surveillance for the western world.
"Get Your Ass to Mars" activated the pyramid.
People are supposed to get raises for work performance not because they will suck a dick for it.
Maybe it was Andy Rubbin one out?
Still not an argument.
Use a pseudonym if you want to have an argument.
Also on CMO you will see nuclear is safer than solar, safer than everything really, and uses comparatively little material resources per energy produced.
You don't have all the facts and refuse any given to you. Therefore your statements don't have any credibility.
I believe the main problem with your argument is that you are a poopy-head. If you just want to bring the level of your debate to name calling then I'll reciprocate. Just because you are using multisyllabic verbiage to make your ad hominem doesn't mean it's any more valid as an argument.
You don't have all the facts and refuse any given to you. Therefore your statements don't have any credibility.
https://articles.thmsr.nl/the-flibe-energy-lftr49-the-triple-ace-in-nuclear-gen-iv-design-ea9bffcd71dd
I've read this before. You don't have all the facts and refuse any given to you. Therefore your statements don't have any credibility.
What facts am I missing?
Use your pseudonym if you want to discuss it.
Besides, even if he wasn't involved in that there is a reason hackers find it worthwhile to hack social media accounts.
I think you're going to need to spend some time dealing with your own issues.
How about we drop all the funding for shills, stop all the government subsidies, and let the open market pick a winner?
As Nuclear power is the only thing benefiting from this, it sounds like a great idea. Solar and Wind will continue to improve and investments in Nuclear power will seem like the insanity that they are.
Humanity made a big mistake choosing Uranium over Thorium and now we can't go back because of the spent fuel we have lying around.
Future investments in Nuclear will come in the form of solar and wind powered accelerators that destroy the spent fuel. It's a shame all of the nuclear advocates here couldn't get over their collective ideology and see through the inherent problems nuclear power has so that they could be fixed.
They were too busy blaming all of the people opposing coal and oil while the coal and oil lobby turned nuclear power into on gigantic tax break for their utility companies.
If we take what we have today and just build more of the same then we will know that nuclear will continue to be safe, low CO2, and reliable.
As you are not in possession of all of the facts it is clear that your statements have no credibility.
Nuclear power is the safest and lowest CO2 producing energy source we have.
Uh, no. Solar, Wind, Hydro and geothermal are all lower than Nuclear. You can check Low-carbon Power which does list Nuclear above solar, however it references the Vatenfall literature which has significant problems with its method.
No. The heat exchangers aren't usually near the core of the reactor, so only get relatively low levels of radiation.
Indeed. I was considering it from the perspective of the cladding around the fuel rods. I'm uncertain if it would have much of an impact between the primary and secondary cooling loops in a PWR as you have mentioned.
As for a molten salt reactor, the salt would carry the isotope around so in that situation the heat exchanger would be exposed. I should have mentioned those scenarios when I posted - thanks for the opportunity to clear that up.