the anti-nuclear lies by mdsolar and others. I also work on education software hence the word algebra.
So now the world has a hero in you, your ideology has programed you to think like a super hero that is going to save the world.
I also work on education software hence the word algebra.
You're not in a position to call anything a lie because you've demonstrated you don't know what the facts are. This is what your ideology has programmed you to do. Since you've been borrowing from my cognition and twisting arguments to suit your agenda it's clear all you are is a fanboi shill. You're the same as every other fanboi that came before you and you offer nothing different from them.
Just the same old bullshit that is so mundane and see through that everyone can recognise it for what it is immediately. You just get modded up by the shills who troll the moderation and feed the perception that you are right. If you were sincere you would really educate yourself however that is too much hard work for you and it would hurt your adorable belief system from which you derive your moral superiority from.
They all ready passed phase 1 of the NRC review. Their reactor is meltdown proof and factory proof.
Already, gee, looks like we've got what we had 20 years ago, except it's not as good. You've got a remarkable record of failed "reasoning" and flawed "arguments"
Well luckily that is happening now with a nuclear startup called NuScale. They have not really bribed anyone, but they are building 12 reactors in Idaho. Even then it is going to be an uphill battle because there is no way they can outspend the fossil fuel companies.
You're adorable. I gave you the research that shows why this will never happen and you're just to much of a dogmatic ideologue to get it. Not that I'm going to clue you into how you are being used by the fossil fuel industry as their "useful idiot" - but do carry on.
The US fast-neutron breeder reactor project was shutdown by the Clinton administration as a favor to the fossil fuel industry. It was never an issue with technical feasibility or commercial viability.
Taking credit for my cognition and research I see.
Ok, look up vitrification to start. Water permeable it is not, so your statement is incorrect by omission.
Except vitrification does not apply to pu-239 and u-238 of which current stocks are close to a million metric tons. So, no, that stuff is is still a problem.
It's like saying, "hey, why don't we dump this crap in a lake?", then assuming that is the ONLY option available, and then saying, "see? I was RIGHT! It's all wet and getting in the ground water!"
And that's still a problem you have no answer for. Those radio isotopes are in the environment and contained in a lake - for now.
The biggest conflation I hear about waste is how long-lived it is. The problem with that particular lack of logic is that low-level radiation in nature is pretty common. Go outside on a sunny day, fly international, explore a cave, etc. You cannot live your life avoiding all radiation.
Sure, what I'd like to avoid is radio-isotopes contaminating the environment. The problem with the basis of your reasoning is that you don't seem to get the difference between and emitter and an emission. Worse you don't understand the difference between external an internal radiation exposure. Nor do you seem to grasp the mechanisms by which this occurs. I'm not saying you're insincere, I'm sure you're making an effort, however I can detect the gaps in your reasoning.
What you want to avoid is large amounts of high-energy radiation. These tend to be associated with something called a short half-life. Low-level => long half-life, high-level => short half-life. The dangerous stuff tends to "burnout" after days or minutes. The stuff that lasts tens of thousands of years is literally less harmful than getting a sunburn at the beach.
I live near the beach, I surf. If you've ever had a bad case of sunburn you would realize that not only can it flay skin off you, it can put you into shock and give you heat stroke. I am less concerned with external exposure than internal exposure and I am less concern with adult exposure than children.
Radio-isotope propagation in the food chain is a real thing and dismissing or ignoring it doesn't make it go away.
Those "train loads of waste" are not high-energy fuel rods. It's things like disposable gloves. Hardly dangerous levels, and not nearly as large of a problem to handle safely as the alarmists want everybody to think.
Bringing up Chernobyl and Karachay does not help your case. All that proves is how bad the USSR was. Do you seriously think any government on the planet, 60 years later, is that stupid?
Yes, because this is an example of how government operates to expedite a solution, otherwise we would have a solution to those issues, which we do not. Basically what you are saying is no one should take responsibility and ignore the situation it causes in the present moment, which is exactly what occurs.
Show me the international effort of inter-government organizations solving the situation at Lake Karachy. Can you do that?
You're a prime example of an ideologue whose belief system can't handle the reality of the situation and all you have is ad-hominem attacks. You have no rational argument to offer, you can't accept facts and debate them and, I can argue your side of the argument better than you can. Your entire position is constructed upon arguments you borrowed from me when I demonstrated that to you. Now you make comments based on a false reality you constructed from cognition you borrowed for me.
You're a perfect example of how empty and useless Nuclear Ideology is. I encourage you to continue to show everyone as your "advocacy" really shows everyone how uninformed and lacking in compassion Nuclear Idealist are in pursuit of a technology they don't even understand.
to you. That's why it is a belief system, a Nuclear Ideology.
All of you afflicted with this Nuclear Ideology refuse to acknowledge the facts placed before you and take rhetoric as truth. When confronted with fact or an analysis I've observed Nuclear Ideologists descend into babble and double speak hardly worthy of spending anytime wading through. This has been consistent on slashdot for over a decade. NIMBY blah GREENIES blah, breeder blah, new reactor babble ignor anything you don;t understand or pretend it doesn't exist.
For example the numbers cited for Chernobyl were reported by the WHO over which the IAEA has publishing interdiction orders on so the WHO's findings on all things nuclear has to be viewed through the same lens you would observe any PR effort. This is an interstitial agreement between the two organizations named WHA12-40 was signed in 1959, if you need a citation.
We could probably discuss the IAEA's own charter says that it is a organization that exists to promote Nuclear Power, so the only conspiracy you could chant is if they went *against* their own charter, which they are unlikely to do.
We could discuss the work of the Ukrainian scientist's that is ignored because it is not written in English that puts the death rate at 10's of thousands, but what would they know about science of the nuclear reactors built in their own territory with their own cultures engineering practises.
Of course we could talk about the math of how many fatal doses of pu-239 were released into the environment but that would depend a lot on the accuracy of a model to track it propagation through the environment to be ingested by people through progressive bio-accumulation into the food chain. Maybe cancer, maybe not.
You might reduce it to a compassionate level and look at the complete destruction of the communities that used to be around these reactors and whether the people who lived there actually consented to the reactor being there in the first place and how many people died simply from the stress of having their lives completely obliterated - but that doesn't count, does it?
Or you could try to do the math of statistically how many births don't come to term because the mother ingested Plutonium Clorides but you don't have a model to track them either, which would be the honest thing to say.
For some really radical thinking you could try to extrapolate deaths from the transgenic disease caused by gene mutation from beta radiation emiters but that's Not.In.My.Generation so it's easier to wave it off as a fiction even though we know know that effect is real.
It's all a bit too difficult really.
Much easier to adopt a less cognitively expensive route and adopt an Ideology, put the brain into neutral then offer a political position based on a belief system. Just like an Ideology not everyone subscribes to it or wants it so it is evil because it is forced upon people who object to it, by people whose belief system obscures their knowledge of facts or who just don't want to know.
Which probably means you transpose the same Nuclear Ideology onto reality.
Essentially all Nuclear Waste storage is water permeable. Only uranacite crystals offer a mechanism to store radioactive waste that isn't water permeable. They are so rare in nature I'm not even sure I'm spelling it correctly and we certainly haven't figured out how to make them for long term storage.
As for your bold statement it maybe more believable if you were to show us how a Russian issue like Lake Karachay isn't an international problem if it dumps 140 million curies (IIRC) into the Atlantic Ocean?
Of course you can look at the excellent National Geographic article on The state of Nuclear waste for the US perspective. Something they describe as a freight train that would be one and a half times the circumference of the equator of the earth.
Wow, anything specific factually incorrect or trollish about my post to warrant a downmod? Well at least we see Nuclear PR in action, if it's too close to the truth, best suppress it.
But nuclear plants can't compete with the subsidies that wind and solar receive in the form of exemptions from onerous environmental regulations.
Please find the The 2005 US Energy Policy Act, Sec. 600 onwards show how ridiculous what you are saying truly is in comparison to the funding Nuclear power gets.
The difference between these industries is all in the politics.
Indeed, the aviation industry learns from it's mistakes and the entire industry benefits. The Nuclear Industry learns better PR and relies on the fact that it is a large complex industry that very few people understand anyway.
If you could explain what a LER and a BDI is perhaps we would have some idea how they relate to what you are saying?
Essentially all Nuclear Waste storage is water permeable. Only uranacite crystals offer a mechanism to store radioactive waste that isn't water permeable. They are so rare in nature I'm not even sure I'm spelling it correctly and we certainly haven't figured out how to make them for long term storage.
As for your bold statement it maybe more believable if you were to show us how a Russian issue like Lake Karachay isn't an international problem if it dumps 140 million curies (IIRC) into the Atlantic Ocean?
Of course you can look at the excellent National Geographic article on The state of Nuclear waste for the US perspective. Something they describe as a freight train that would be one and a half times the circumference of the equator of the earth.
I get it that you want the best for everybody, however transposing your belief system onto reality and then subjecting everybody to it is propagating the PR the Nuclear Industry has concocted to conceal their failures. Unlike shills, they get paid.
From that perspective, it's immoral to support Nuclear Power.
If you don't learn from your hack each time you do it, it's not a hack. The things people call hacks aren't really hacks by that definition either. This original definition isn't in the article that I could find.
Unfortunately geek culture was high-jacked by people unwilling to apply those standards to themselves and that is something we have to acknowledge. If course the short answer is not to derive a new meaning but to reclaim it by associating deliberate breaches of computer security with cracking and learning a new computer hack as hacking.
Who gives a shit if the mass of people get it wrong if nerds and geeks use it the way it is intended, just let them go Huh? and try to figure out how they got it wrong. Nothing is foolproof because fools are so ingenious and since no one has invented a way to fix stupid I see little point wasting brain power on inventing a new terminology when I could be hacking my way through code.
That was a joke. The irony of acknowledging how serious what AHuxley has posted - which kind of makes it funnier considering who wants access to your phone. Tough crowd.
I don't think you are stupid. You thought the best of people which isn't a bad thing. In business it is not unusual to take advantage of peoples good nature and they have simply done that to you. That's not a reflection on you, it's a reflection on them.
Well I'm no lawyer and I know next to nothing about the US legal system so you will have to search for the answer to this from some one else.
No. I have presented the established legal basis with evidence in case law for you to evolve your position because it is clear your assumption is flawed and time has already shown us how corporate entities behave in this circumstance.
Per Bayer, I'm optimistic that they aren't as litigious as Monsanto so we can agree that only time will tell.
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AtomicAsshole - that's priceless. By means of thanks for this send this asshole random link to babies with birth defects from DU, that really triggers him.
the anti-nuclear lies by mdsolar and others. I also work on education software hence the word algebra.
So now the world has a hero in you, your ideology has programed you to think like a super hero that is going to save the world.
I also work on education software hence the word algebra.
You're not in a position to call anything a lie because you've demonstrated you don't know what the facts are. This is what your ideology has programmed you to do. Since you've been borrowing from my cognition and twisting arguments to suit your agenda it's clear all you are is a fanboi shill. You're the same as every other fanboi that came before you and you offer nothing different from them.
Just the same old bullshit that is so mundane and see through that everyone can recognise it for what it is immediately. You just get modded up by the shills who troll the moderation and feed the perception that you are right. If you were sincere you would really educate yourself however that is too much hard work for you and it would hurt your adorable belief system from which you derive your moral superiority from.
You're boring.
They all ready passed phase 1 of the NRC review. Their reactor is meltdown proof and factory proof.
Already, gee, looks like we've got what we had 20 years ago, except it's not as good. You've got a remarkable record of failed "reasoning" and flawed "arguments"
Well luckily that is happening now with a nuclear startup called NuScale. They have not really bribed anyone, but they are building 12 reactors in Idaho. Even then it is going to be an uphill battle because there is no way they can outspend the fossil fuel companies.
You're adorable. I gave you the research that shows why this will never happen and you're just to much of a dogmatic ideologue to get it. Not that I'm going to clue you into how you are being used by the fossil fuel industry as their "useful idiot" - but do carry on.
The US fast-neutron breeder reactor project was shutdown by the Clinton administration as a favor to the fossil fuel industry. It was never an issue with technical feasibility or commercial viability.
Taking credit for my cognition and research I see.
I guess I must have hit a nerve too.
He loves this, use it to trigger him randomly.
Fuck you.
So emotional. I might look at some of your other comments and collapse you ideology even further.
Ok, look up vitrification to start. Water permeable it is not, so your statement is incorrect by omission.
Except vitrification does not apply to pu-239 and u-238 of which current stocks are close to a million metric tons. So, no, that stuff is is still a problem.
It's like saying, "hey, why don't we dump this crap in a lake?", then assuming that is the ONLY option available, and then saying, "see? I was RIGHT! It's all wet and getting in the ground water!"
And that's still a problem you have no answer for. Those radio isotopes are in the environment and contained in a lake - for now.
The biggest conflation I hear about waste is how long-lived it is. The problem with that particular lack of logic is that low-level radiation in nature is pretty common. Go outside on a sunny day, fly international, explore a cave, etc. You cannot live your life avoiding all radiation.
Sure, what I'd like to avoid is radio-isotopes contaminating the environment. The problem with the basis of your reasoning is that you don't seem to get the difference between and emitter and an emission. Worse you don't understand the difference between external an internal radiation exposure. Nor do you seem to grasp the mechanisms by which this occurs. I'm not saying you're insincere, I'm sure you're making an effort, however I can detect the gaps in your reasoning.
What you want to avoid is large amounts of high-energy radiation. These tend to be associated with something called a short half-life. Low-level => long half-life, high-level => short half-life. The dangerous stuff tends to "burnout" after days or minutes. The stuff that lasts tens of thousands of years is literally less harmful than getting a sunburn at the beach.
I live near the beach, I surf. If you've ever had a bad case of sunburn you would realize that not only can it flay skin off you, it can put you into shock and give you heat stroke. I am less concerned with external exposure than internal exposure and I am less concern with adult exposure than children.
Radio-isotope propagation in the food chain is a real thing and dismissing or ignoring it doesn't make it go away.
Those "train loads of waste" are not high-energy fuel rods. It's things like disposable gloves. Hardly dangerous levels, and not nearly as large of a problem to handle safely as the alarmists want everybody to think.
Bringing up Chernobyl and Karachay does not help your case. All that proves is how bad the USSR was. Do you seriously think any government on the planet, 60 years later, is that stupid?
Yes, because this is an example of how government operates to expedite a solution, otherwise we would have a solution to those issues, which we do not. Basically what you are saying is no one should take responsibility and ignore the situation it causes in the present moment, which is exactly what occurs.
Show me the international effort of inter-government organizations solving the situation at Lake Karachy. Can you do that?
Fuck you dead baby asshole
You're a prime example of an ideologue whose belief system can't handle the reality of the situation and all you have is ad-hominem attacks. You have no rational argument to offer, you can't accept facts and debate them and, I can argue your side of the argument better than you can. Your entire position is constructed upon arguments you borrowed from me when I demonstrated that to you. Now you make comments based on a false reality you constructed from cognition you borrowed for me.
You're a perfect example of how empty and useless Nuclear Ideology is. I encourage you to continue to show everyone as your "advocacy" really shows everyone how uninformed and lacking in compassion Nuclear Idealist are in pursuit of a technology they don't even understand.
If you can't face the reality you have no business talking about nuclear power.
You are the dead baby asshole. When you lost the moral debate you showed me pictures of dead babies and blamed me for them. Fuck you.
That's what you say. You sound a lot like a loser to me.
That belief _is_ reality...
to you. That's why it is a belief system, a Nuclear Ideology.
All of you afflicted with this Nuclear Ideology refuse to acknowledge the facts placed before you and take rhetoric as truth. When confronted with fact or an analysis I've observed Nuclear Ideologists descend into babble and double speak hardly worthy of spending anytime wading through. This has been consistent on slashdot for over a decade. NIMBY blah GREENIES blah, breeder blah, new reactor babble ignor anything you don;t understand or pretend it doesn't exist.
For example the numbers cited for Chernobyl were reported by the WHO over which the IAEA has publishing interdiction orders on so the WHO's findings on all things nuclear has to be viewed through the same lens you would observe any PR effort. This is an interstitial agreement between the two organizations named WHA12-40 was signed in 1959, if you need a citation.
We could probably discuss the IAEA's own charter says that it is a organization that exists to promote Nuclear Power, so the only conspiracy you could chant is if they went *against* their own charter, which they are unlikely to do.
We could discuss the work of the Ukrainian scientist's that is ignored because it is not written in English that puts the death rate at 10's of thousands, but what would they know about science of the nuclear reactors built in their own territory with their own cultures engineering practises.
Of course we could talk about the math of how many fatal doses of pu-239 were released into the environment but that would depend a lot on the accuracy of a model to track it propagation through the environment to be ingested by people through progressive bio-accumulation into the food chain. Maybe cancer, maybe not.
You might reduce it to a compassionate level and look at the complete destruction of the communities that used to be around these reactors and whether the people who lived there actually consented to the reactor being there in the first place and how many people died simply from the stress of having their lives completely obliterated - but that doesn't count, does it?
Or you could try to do the math of statistically how many births don't come to term because the mother ingested Plutonium Clorides but you don't have a model to track them either, which would be the honest thing to say.
For some really radical thinking you could try to extrapolate deaths from the transgenic disease caused by gene mutation from beta radiation emiters but that's Not.In.My.Generation so it's easier to wave it off as a fiction even though we know know that effect is real.
It's all a bit too difficult really.
Much easier to adopt a less cognitively expensive route and adopt an Ideology, put the brain into neutral then offer a political position based on a belief system. Just like an Ideology not everyone subscribes to it or wants it so it is evil because it is forced upon people who object to it, by people whose belief system obscures their knowledge of facts or who just don't want to know.
Which probably means you transpose the same Nuclear Ideology onto reality.
Something in bold isn't a fact!
Essentially all Nuclear Waste storage is water permeable. Only uranacite crystals offer a mechanism to store radioactive waste that isn't water permeable. They are so rare in nature I'm not even sure I'm spelling it correctly and we certainly haven't figured out how to make them for long term storage.
As for your bold statement it maybe more believable if you were to show us how a Russian issue like Lake Karachay isn't an international problem if it dumps 140 million curies (IIRC) into the Atlantic Ocean?
Of course you can look at the excellent National Geographic article on The state of Nuclear waste for the US perspective. Something they describe as a freight train that would be one and a half times the circumference of the equator of the earth.
Wow, anything specific factually incorrect or trollish about my post to warrant a downmod? Well at least we see Nuclear PR in action, if it's too close to the truth, best suppress it.
But nuclear plants can't compete with the subsidies that wind and solar receive in the form of exemptions from onerous environmental regulations.
Please find the The 2005 US Energy Policy Act, Sec. 600 onwards show how ridiculous what you are saying truly is in comparison to the funding Nuclear power gets.
The difference between these industries is all in the politics.
Indeed, the aviation industry learns from it's mistakes and the entire industry benefits. The Nuclear Industry learns better PR and relies on the fact that it is a large complex industry that very few people understand anyway.
If you could explain what a LER and a BDI is perhaps we would have some idea how they relate to what you are saying?
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Something in bold isn't a fact!
Essentially all Nuclear Waste storage is water permeable. Only uranacite crystals offer a mechanism to store radioactive waste that isn't water permeable. They are so rare in nature I'm not even sure I'm spelling it correctly and we certainly haven't figured out how to make them for long term storage.
As for your bold statement it maybe more believable if you were to show us how a Russian issue like Lake Karachay isn't an international problem if it dumps 140 million curies (IIRC) into the Atlantic Ocean?
Of course you can look at the excellent National Geographic article on The state of Nuclear waste for the US perspective. Something they describe as a freight train that would be one and a half times the circumference of the equator of the earth.
I get it that you want the best for everybody, however transposing your belief system onto reality and then subjecting everybody to it is propagating the PR the Nuclear Industry has concocted to conceal their failures. Unlike shills, they get paid.
From that perspective, it's immoral to support Nuclear Power.
If you don't learn from your hack each time you do it, it's not a hack. The things people call hacks aren't really hacks by that definition either. This original definition isn't in the article that I could find.
Unfortunately geek culture was high-jacked by people unwilling to apply those standards to themselves and that is something we have to acknowledge. If course the short answer is not to derive a new meaning but to reclaim it by associating deliberate breaches of computer security with cracking and learning a new computer hack as hacking.
Who gives a shit if the mass of people get it wrong if nerds and geeks use it the way it is intended, just let them go Huh? and try to figure out how they got it wrong. Nothing is foolproof because fools are so ingenious and since no one has invented a way to fix stupid I see little point wasting brain power on inventing a new terminology when I could be hacking my way through code.
What about that for a hack?
Have you seen the owner of pimilico plumbers? Please Google him. He is also thinking of running for mayor.
My goodness, you are right!
That was a joke. The irony of acknowledging how serious what AHuxley has posted - which kind of makes it funnier considering who wants access to your phone. Tough crowd.
Shame to hear that they've been a bunch of wankers.
Is it possible they are being cunts?
I get everything you are saying, the problem is all this is making it really difficult for legitimate hackers to get into peoples phones.
I don't think you are stupid. You thought the best of people which isn't a bad thing. In business it is not unusual to take advantage of peoples good nature and they have simply done that to you. That's not a reflection on you, it's a reflection on them.
Well I'm no lawyer and I know next to nothing about the US legal system so you will have to search for the answer to this from some one else.
No. I have presented the established legal basis with evidence in case law for you to evolve your position because it is clear your assumption is flawed and time has already shown us how corporate entities behave in this circumstance.
Per Bayer, I'm optimistic that they aren't as litigious as Monsanto so we can agree that only time will tell.