I love how people who tout solar and wind as "clean" are actually a form of NIMBY because they don't mind all of the strip-mining at slave wages for all of the rare earth minerals that have to me mined and transported to build them. Let alone all of the pollution created during that process.
Then you should look into the Nuclear Industry's mining practices. Radon from mine tailing polluting waterways. Acid leech mining that leaves behind megalitres of radioactive sulphuric acid. Really bad stuff.
Slaves are bad, but killing the entire village is worse.
1st-world countries should be capable of running nuclear power without serious problems if their governments actually demanded quality. (That is, if you already have nuclear bombs, there's ZERO rational argument against nuclear power. I'm not suggesting proliferation of more weaponry.)
There are oodles of reasons why nuclear is a bad idea. Here is the peer reviewed science regarding the absence of any energetic return from nuclear power.
The story of Fukushima is a failure of government to regulate greedy corporations, not an inherent failure of technology.
No it isn't. It is a story of collusion, corruption and criminal negligence. Also of the human species inherent inability to operate it safely with organizational systems.
I'll never understand why slashdotters claim to love technology and "science" but eschew one of the greatest advances in the history of mankind.
Because the more you understand the many aspects, not just the reactors, but the mining, the enrichment, how radionuclide bio-accumulate, long term waste storage, decommissioning the reactors and demolishing them safely, the political, finance, legal and insurance issues, the materials technology issues, issues of scaling and developing the technology we find that whilst the technology is amazing, it's also ultimately pointless - that's why.
Because if we don't get all those things right, every time then it slowly destroys the human genome over time through transgenic disease. We have *one* biosphere adapted to human life, radionuclides decay in geological timeframes and once they are in the environment they cannot be removed. They are in the food chain.
Because if you survive the hype about nuclear power and dig down through the layers of PR and understand all that, then you find nuclear power is inherently kleptoparasitic and future generations will have to deal with a radiological legacy from our generation the same way we have to deal with a carbon legacy from previous generations.
I think people are starting wake up to the fact that we can adversely affect future generations and ask questions about how we avoid killing our descendants.
1000 TWh * $0.26/kWh = $260 billion worth of electricity produced over the lifetime of the plant. Even with the second-worst and most expensive nuclear accident in history, the Fukushima Daiichi plant still produced more value in electricity than the cleanup cost so far
Every nuclear power accident happened at a power plant that was government inspected and licensed. Every oil spill was from a drill, ship, pipe, train, or refinery that was inspected and licensed by a government.
Regulation and operation is a co-operative process in the Nuclear Industry between the regulator and operator.
TEPCO quite likely fucked up major here but they did so under government supervision. The government allowed the reactor to operate as it did, where it did, because it met all safety requirements imposed upon it. If it hadn't then it would have been shutdown.
Correction: TEPCO fucked up. No weasel words thank you. Some board members have been charged with negligence, which in reality, should be criminal negligence. Government operated in collusion with TEPCO. You need to read the report from the Japanese government.
What is ironic is that it is quite likely because of the safety protocols imposed on it that the reactor melted down.
Hydrogen production was an expected outcome from exposing the *TWO* basis design issues of that reactor type. What happened to the reactors is exactly what the manufacturer said would happen if the reactors lost power and why operators are supposed to make sure this doesn't happen. That is why TEPCO are negligent. That they had well over a decade to perform the modifications is why it is criminal - that is the nature of corruption and why regulations exist. The regulations weren't made or enforced, and the reactor went boom.
Otherwise they'd still have a functioning nuclear reactor plant, it survived the quake but not the TEPCO board.
If the reactor had not been shutdown as required by law then perhaps none of this would have happened. I could argue that the government caused this, therefore they should have to pay for it.
I think you will find that it was shut down because there was an earthquake and since the operator decided not to comply with the regulation laid down to operate the reactor safely it is quite reasonable to ask the operator to pay for everything. It also means the regulator has to be given more impetus for performing its duties in preventing these accidents.
The regulation is made to institutionalize the knowledge to operate these things without killing the communities around them. If you undermine that process and refuse to stamp out the corruption then it is impossible to have a safe nuclear industry. TEPCO just reminded us why, so yeah, they should pay.
Every power grid needs a good bassline, the funkier the better. Grid frequencies around the world are being progressively changed from 50 and 60 Hz to whatever make people dance.
Sure, I owned it in my previous post. However since u need to tell so many others that they are jerks, perhaps you need to own that you're a jerk yourself.
Thanks, I wondered if someone would point it out. I probably fall into that category a bit right now because I'm withdrawing from painkillers however In my defence teh study torques about pple who continually point grammar issues.
I'm not usually a grammar nazi, but History isn't a difficult word and it is the title of the submission "48 Organizations Now Have Access To Every Brit's Browsing Hstory"
Well said sir, were I to have mod point, I would adorn them on your finely worded and insightful post. Such eloquence.
To your lamentations I observe that they befoul our forum with their histrionic buffoonery, and layer, without alteration or abatement, words fecal in origin, uttered from flatulent lips that blubber and sputter forth so that even the best of us, congregated for discussion and contemplation of those things real aforementioned, long to see the hammer of natures laws, expressed in the physics and biology of our surroundings, come down hard upon their empty skulls, with a ceaseless, inescapable, pounding, inevitability that brings a full realization of their folly and little release of their discomfort. Let them drink deep for now, for fools know only folly if it is in the moment they thus occupy.
cases of confirmed voter fraud are exceedingly rare
Bush vs Gore 200? wasn't a case of individuals though. Gore didn't challenge that even when that looked like a case of fraud, albeit at an administrative level IIRC.
Maybe this was some sort of calibration problem undetected due to the volume of participants. Even if it was, Gore had clearer impetus to challenge and didn't so I doubt this will go anywhere. The lack of a challenge to the result is a wasted opportunity to use investigation to improve the voting system by forcing the government into introspection.
A challenge doesn't have to be about who wins or looses, it could be about a nation taking a moment to fix structural issues.
As for the particular example of Voter ID laws:
They could easily allow people to register to vote for free and, since it is a participatory democracy, it's not mandatory. Still it says a lot about the state of the US if people cannot afford a license, I didn't realise that. Last time I looked it was only 17% of their population voting, maybe that is part of the reason. How sad for democracies, no wonder we're in such poor shape.
If the US could get its act together and issue everyone a national ID, the situation would be different. But I know Americans are often against things like national IDs involving national databases and other scary things.
I think people have it in there minds how associated with fascism it is. You can't be seen to be associated with fascism no matter how right you are.
For anyone who is interested this was my analysis of the TPP [warning;pdf] made to the Joint Standing Committee on Treaties in my country based on the thousand or so pages I got through.
It was clear to me that it is not in the interests of any country to effectively dismantle their justice system in regards to any commercial laws they may attempt to make. Everything I wrote applies evenly to any country that signs on to the TPP, even the US.
As someone with no dog in this fight it has been pretty much the ultimate in wrestle mania trying to avoid watching your elections, I am ready for normal 'programming' now.
It was clear that Mrs Clinton carried much of the rhetoric of the establishment and was their preference. I think she was deeply uncomfortable with the 2 attempts at being president because her body language was so unnatural all of the time.
I detested Mr Trump because he came across as a narcissistic prick. On the other hand it occurred to me, maybe that's what it takes to play the game of running for president. So whilst I detest him it did show that the people of the US are sick to death of the establishment and can still buck the system, for that I was surprised and delighted.
I wrote to my representatives regarding concerns about the TPP after reading as much of it as I could (only about 1000 of the 6000 pages) none of it will work for any country who signs it. If I can dig put a link to the pdf, I'll post it.
I hope that he is brave enough to start fixing some of the structural problems the US have that are apolitical. If he is dumping the TPP that is a sure sign of someone who is a leader who is prepared to make up their own mind. In that regard I think Americans have created an opportunity for Trump to be a great leader.
I don't use social media like FB, Twitter, Instagram, snapchat and so on as I get the feeling that I don't get anything done. When my friends ask me why, I tell them that I use computers all the time and prefer not to use them in my down time, then joke that I'd get sucked in and find myself reading about someone's cats at 2:30am. I laugh however it's only half a joke.
Back in the day rec.humor.funny was my favorite but I found that "the net" could really suck you in. Back then I was lucky enough to recognize that in myself for what it was, the addictive properties of the net. So I think he is right and I'm glad this generation is (perhaps, maybe) seeing through the bullshit. Good.
I rationale that time I decide to waste isn't wasted time so I find Slashdot is enough zone time for me.
It's that addictive characteristic that made me decide to hang back from personal media and really evaluate it for what it was. This included/. where I lurked for some time until I commented. The pseudo-anonymity an attractive feature that allows you to say what you want to say with less fear of self-censorship. The permanency makes you consider what you want to say. The effort of that consideration is where I zone before going back to what I was doing. FB didn't have that so I didn't feel like I was missing much.
I think he is right about the productive time aspect as well. I do a lot besides work, jui jitsu, music, surfing, producing, personal programming, things I like and people I like to be around so that you can be interested in people. Life experienced through a FB post makes every encounter seem a little bullshit, like you've already been there. Kinda shallow. So I saved an incredible amount of time letting everyone else be on the bleeding edge for a change and just enjoying the ability to be laid back, relaxed and observing.
So again, I find myself agreeing with this guy about the impact it makes on the world. I found myself reading proposed laws instead of cats, at first for my business interests in technology then, as I understood more, the civil aspects. I've read thousands of pages over the years and I don't have to wonder about the machines of society used to keep an eye on us - they are written in the laws that govern us.
Which brings me, full circle, to the social control aspects of personal media, what better way to know all that needs to be known about a person than social media. The authorization is all in law to see for most western countries to use these tools to monitor us, even slashdot, there is no escape. We know it is there happening, but we are addicted and that is it, it is used against us.
I think these aspects are more important than work aspects which seem to be enhanced by a very controlled diet of information about myself out there. It is not tin foil hat stuff anymore as spying, identity fraud and advertising are all good reasons to keep a lid on my valuable information. All that people see about me is what I tell them and I look like a commodity who knows how to control the digital aspects of my life as a result. Best of both worlds. You either know or are known.
A major problem of the "new generation of nukes" is the virtual lack of serial production. A tinkering approach is not going to cut it. Lack of design and construction continuity in the 1990s isn't helping any.
The NRC commissioned US reactor manufacturers (Westinghouse, GE, BEctel etc) to study what improvements could be made to reactor design. There were almost 30 recommendations. None of them have been implemented in the SNUPPS reactor which attempted to standardize reactor design into the AP1000.
For example one recommendation was to build the reactor *underground*.
You can see the devastating effects of this on the EPR.
The EPR reactor seems to be a better designed reactor than the AP1000 to me and appears to incorporate some of the design enhancements in the NRC study.
e.g. Containment is resistant to military attacks, different functional buildings, control room location moved away from reactor core.
Read some of the recent articles by the elder statesmen of the environmentalist movement, such as one of the founders of Greenpeace.
oh, so NOW your listening to them.
Intentionally conflating alpha, beta, and gamma radiation.
Please, please, please can you people please learn the difference between a radionuclide and the radiation it emits. I'm not fucking einstein but I'm fairly certain you don't want to breath plutonium oxide or have plutonium chloride in your food.
Too late, who knows how much of a serve Fukushima and Chernobyl gave us of that. I guess we will have to rely on the promotional materials from the IAEA.
The even bigger lie is intentionally conflating short half-life with long half-life.
ok, how about radon seeping into water tables from mine tailings or CFC114 emissions from enrichment (now thankful ceased) or megalitres of radioactive sulphuric acid slurry from acid leach mining or DU DU everywhere!
There is waste that releases enough radiation in a year to be dangerous,
It's really it like showing somebody a firecracker and saying "this is metal oxydizing" (true) and "the metal in your car could oxydize at any moment" (also true, your car is oxydizing all the time).
So, you believe that even in the next century or two we won't figure out how to deal with the waste?
Let's hope so. My understanding is that the Swiss are using Granite mountains and bentonite clays to deal with ground water penetration issues that come with the fracturing of the granite. Not perfect but a lot better than the pumice mountains of Yucca.
The most promising research is coming from Australia where they are trying to understand how to make Uranacites out of the U, pu, du. They are rare but exist in nature. Very beautiful crystal (greenish) and impervious to water. So fingers crossed!
That seems a bit unlikely to me. And what if the result of a stubborn opposition to nuclear power is that we simply hang onto our coal plants? That would seem like a rather Pyrrhic victory. It really feels like opponents to nuclear are risking the life of the forest to save a single tree.
No, it wouldn't be. Using nuclear power is the ultimate pv because we burn our own genome for enegy now. These radioisotopes alter our genome - that is fact. These radioisotopes are toxic and energetic for geological timespans, that is fact. We use legal construct to provide corporate welfare to the Nuclear industry to make it viable, that is fact.
Nuclear *could* be good if it was engineered properly. The NRC already commissioned the studies, the design changes are expensive. There is no way it can be privately owned and it would be an infrastructure project so large even the economy of the US would have to be restructured to accommodate it (if you are serious about it). Materials science advancements would be required as well. They are dangerous elements which deserve our respect wrt handling, the reactor needs to be disposed of as well as the fuel. That all has to be designed.
Of course, that would mean we could actually talk about it like rational human beings however the mindspace of this discussion is polluted with fanbois and morons hellbent on imposing the 'idealized' version of nuclear power onto reality. It's kinda boring, really.
This is what happens when something turns into an -ism. I think opposition to nuclear is based more on dogma and irrational fear than anything else at this point.
I'm so very glad you bough that up, check my sig friend, it's not my ism I am talking about.
Here's a thought: maybe we should listen to specialists (say, nuclear scientists and engineers, and throw in some statisticians to tally up safety records) about whether modern nuclear power is safe and effective enough to use.
Because, I'm pretty sure the science is settled at this point. Should we also should start calling opponents "nuclear deniers"?
That would be like saying climate change is bullshit, but I kind of like it.
Yeah fuckit, I'm a nuclear denier. I deny Nuclear is a real solution to climate change. I'll start calling the nutty nukker fanbois, physics deniers, better FACT deniers or 'unable to provide fact'ers - but I jest ho ho ho.
Easy solution: Give regulatory control of the nuclear power industry to the navy. No joke.
Admiral Rickover was responsible for designing the systems that created that safety record. You need someone like him to do that with these different reactors and he did not put up with the stupidity that we see from the nutty nukker fringe here at slashdot.
I tend to agree with his sentiments about them.
They do it by standardizing
Been attempted with SNUPPS which is the basis of AP1000. EPR is a better reactor though.
Slashdot Mirror
Then you should look into the Nuclear Industry's mining practices. Radon from mine tailing polluting waterways. Acid leech mining that leaves behind megalitres of radioactive sulphuric acid. Really bad stuff.
Slaves are bad, but killing the entire village is worse.
There are oodles of reasons why nuclear is a bad idea. Here is the peer reviewed science regarding the absence of any energetic return from nuclear power.
No it isn't. It is a story of collusion, corruption and criminal negligence. Also of the human species inherent inability to operate it safely with organizational systems.
Because the more you understand the many aspects, not just the reactors, but the mining, the enrichment, how radionuclide bio-accumulate, long term waste storage, decommissioning the reactors and demolishing them safely, the political, finance, legal and insurance issues, the materials technology issues, issues of scaling and developing the technology we find that whilst the technology is amazing, it's also ultimately pointless - that's why.
Because if we don't get all those things right, every time then it slowly destroys the human genome over time through transgenic disease. We have *one* biosphere adapted to human life, radionuclides decay in geological timeframes and once they are in the environment they cannot be removed. They are in the food chain.
Because if you survive the hype about nuclear power and dig down through the layers of PR and understand all that, then you find nuclear power is inherently kleptoparasitic and future generations will have to deal with a radiological legacy from our generation the same way we have to deal with a carbon legacy from previous generations.
I think people are starting wake up to the fact that we can adversely affect future generations and ask questions about how we avoid killing our descendants.
1000 TWh * $0.26/kWh = $260 billion worth of electricity produced over the lifetime of the plant. Even with the second-worst and most expensive nuclear accident in history, the Fukushima Daiichi plant still produced more value in electricity than the cleanup cost so far
FTFY.
Won't someone think of the Tepco investors? And their children?
Wow, your al gore rhythms are getting really good. Funny, almost like a real person.
Regulation and operation is a co-operative process in the Nuclear Industry between the regulator and operator.
Correction: TEPCO fucked up. No weasel words thank you. Some board members have been charged with negligence, which in reality, should be criminal negligence. Government operated in collusion with TEPCO. You need to read the report from the Japanese government.
Hydrogen production was an expected outcome from exposing the *TWO* basis design issues of that reactor type. What happened to the reactors is exactly what the manufacturer said would happen if the reactors lost power and why operators are supposed to make sure this doesn't happen. That is why TEPCO are negligent. That they had well over a decade to perform the modifications is why it is criminal - that is the nature of corruption and why regulations exist. The regulations weren't made or enforced, and the reactor went boom.
Otherwise they'd still have a functioning nuclear reactor plant, it survived the quake but not the TEPCO board.
I think you will find that it was shut down because there was an earthquake and since the operator decided not to comply with the regulation laid down to operate the reactor safely it is quite reasonable to ask the operator to pay for everything. It also means the regulator has to be given more impetus for performing its duties in preventing these accidents.
The regulation is made to institutionalize the knowledge to operate these things without killing the communities around them. If you undermine that process and refuse to stamp out the corruption then it is impossible to have a safe nuclear industry. TEPCO just reminded us why, so yeah, they should pay.
Wind and solar can't provide baseline load.
Every power grid needs a good bassline, the funkier the better. Grid frequencies around the world are being progressively changed from 50 and 60 Hz to whatever make people dance.
Sure, I owned it in my previous post. However since u need to tell so many others that they are jerks, perhaps you need to own that you're a jerk yourself.
- just sayin.
Thanks, I wondered if someone would point it out. I probably fall into that category a bit right now because I'm withdrawing from painkillers however In my defence teh study torques about pple who continually point grammar issues.
Perhaps we need a study on people who continually point out people pointing out grammar issues.
- just sayin.
Hstory repeats itself.
I'm not usually a grammar nazi, but History isn't a difficult word and it is the title of the submission "48 Organizations Now Have Access To Every Brit's Browsing Hstory"
- just sayin.
are they faking it?
Well said sir, were I to have mod point, I would adorn them on your finely worded and insightful post. Such eloquence.
To your lamentations I observe that they befoul our forum with their histrionic buffoonery, and layer, without alteration or abatement, words fecal in origin, uttered from flatulent lips that blubber and sputter forth so that even the best of us, congregated for discussion and contemplation of those things real aforementioned, long to see the hammer of natures laws, expressed in the physics and biology of our surroundings, come down hard upon their empty skulls, with a ceaseless, inescapable, pounding, inevitability that brings a full realization of their folly and little release of their discomfort. Let them drink deep for now, for fools know only folly if it is in the moment they thus occupy.
If that isn't worth murdering someone over, I don't know what is.
Discounted toilet paper. Only in America. Oh, wait...
OH Shit!!!
three billion dollars worth of junk.
Bush vs Gore 200? wasn't a case of individuals though. Gore didn't challenge that even when that looked like a case of fraud, albeit at an administrative level IIRC.
Maybe this was some sort of calibration problem undetected due to the volume of participants. Even if it was, Gore had clearer impetus to challenge and didn't so I doubt this will go anywhere. The lack of a challenge to the result is a wasted opportunity to use investigation to improve the voting system by forcing the government into introspection.
A challenge doesn't have to be about who wins or looses, it could be about a nation taking a moment to fix structural issues.
They could easily allow people to register to vote for free and, since it is a participatory democracy, it's not mandatory. Still it says a lot about the state of the US if people cannot afford a license, I didn't realise that. Last time I looked it was only 17% of their population voting, maybe that is part of the reason. How sad for democracies, no wonder we're in such poor shape.
I think people have it in there minds how associated with fascism it is. You can't be seen to be associated with fascism no matter how right you are.
For anyone who is interested this was my analysis of the TPP [warning;pdf] made to the Joint Standing Committee on Treaties in my country based on the thousand or so pages I got through.
It was clear to me that it is not in the interests of any country to effectively dismantle their justice system in regards to any commercial laws they may attempt to make. Everything I wrote applies evenly to any country that signs on to the TPP, even the US.
You fail at high school statistics and middle school chemistry.
Nothing to do with chemistry and everything to do with probability.
As someone with no dog in this fight it has been pretty much the ultimate in wrestle mania trying to avoid watching your elections, I am ready for normal 'programming' now.
It was clear that Mrs Clinton carried much of the rhetoric of the establishment and was their preference. I think she was deeply uncomfortable with the 2 attempts at being president because her body language was so unnatural all of the time.
I detested Mr Trump because he came across as a narcissistic prick. On the other hand it occurred to me, maybe that's what it takes to play the game of running for president. So whilst I detest him it did show that the people of the US are sick to death of the establishment and can still buck the system, for that I was surprised and delighted.
I wrote to my representatives regarding concerns about the TPP after reading as much of it as I could (only about 1000 of the 6000 pages) none of it will work for any country who signs it. If I can dig put a link to the pdf, I'll post it.
I hope that he is brave enough to start fixing some of the structural problems the US have that are apolitical. If he is dumping the TPP that is a sure sign of someone who is a leader who is prepared to make up their own mind. In that regard I think Americans have created an opportunity for Trump to be a great leader.
I mean in theory they can but you're more likely to get hit by lightening on Jupiter tomorrow.
The difference is there was *no chance* before and now it's like lightning hitting the same place, twice.
I don't use social media like FB, Twitter, Instagram, snapchat and so on as I get the feeling that I don't get anything done. When my friends ask me why, I tell them that I use computers all the time and prefer not to use them in my down time, then joke that I'd get sucked in and find myself reading about someone's cats at 2:30am. I laugh however it's only half a joke.
Back in the day rec.humor.funny was my favorite but I found that "the net" could really suck you in. Back then I was lucky enough to recognize that in myself for what it was, the addictive properties of the net. So I think he is right and I'm glad this generation is (perhaps, maybe) seeing through the bullshit. Good.
I rationale that time I decide to waste isn't wasted time so I find Slashdot is enough zone time for me.
It's that addictive characteristic that made me decide to hang back from personal media and really evaluate it for what it was. This included /. where I lurked for some time until I commented. The pseudo-anonymity an attractive feature that allows you to say what you want to say with less fear of self-censorship. The permanency makes you consider what you want to say. The effort of that consideration is where I zone before going back to what I was doing. FB didn't have that so I didn't feel like I was missing much.
I think he is right about the productive time aspect as well. I do a lot besides work, jui jitsu, music, surfing, producing, personal programming, things I like and people I like to be around so that you can be interested in people. Life experienced through a FB post makes every encounter seem a little bullshit, like you've already been there. Kinda shallow. So I saved an incredible amount of time letting everyone else be on the bleeding edge for a change and just enjoying the ability to be laid back, relaxed and observing.
So again, I find myself agreeing with this guy about the impact it makes on the world. I found myself reading proposed laws instead of cats, at first for my business interests in technology then, as I understood more, the civil aspects. I've read thousands of pages over the years and I don't have to wonder about the machines of society used to keep an eye on us - they are written in the laws that govern us.
Which brings me, full circle, to the social control aspects of personal media, what better way to know all that needs to be known about a person than social media. The authorization is all in law to see for most western countries to use these tools to monitor us, even slashdot, there is no escape. We know it is there happening, but we are addicted and that is it, it is used against us.
I think these aspects are more important than work aspects which seem to be enhanced by a very controlled diet of information about myself out there. It is not tin foil hat stuff anymore as spying, identity fraud and advertising are all good reasons to keep a lid on my valuable information. All that people see about me is what I tell them and I look like a commodity who knows how to control the digital aspects of my life as a result. Best of both worlds. You either know or are known.
And began again when illegal emigrants started pouring over the borders.
Why weren't they allowed to leave?
A major problem of the "new generation of nukes" is the virtual lack of serial production. A tinkering approach is not going to cut it. Lack of design and construction continuity in the 1990s isn't helping any.
The NRC commissioned US reactor manufacturers (Westinghouse, GE, BEctel etc) to study what improvements could be made to reactor design. There were almost 30 recommendations. None of them have been implemented in the SNUPPS reactor which attempted to standardize reactor design into the AP1000.
For example one recommendation was to build the reactor *underground*.
You can see the devastating effects of this on the EPR.
The EPR reactor seems to be a better designed reactor than the AP1000 to me and appears to incorporate some of the design enhancements in the NRC study.
e.g. Containment is resistant to military attacks, different functional buildings, control room location moved away from reactor core.
and stays in the fly ash, which is used in concrete
Sounds like a great way to get lung cancer from radon exposure.
You might be thinking of the case where mine tailings were mixed with concrete for an apartment building.
oh, so NOW your listening to them.
Please, please, please can you people please learn the difference between a radionuclide and the radiation it emits. I'm not fucking einstein but I'm fairly certain you don't want to breath plutonium oxide or have plutonium chloride in your food.
Too late, who knows how much of a serve Fukushima and Chernobyl gave us of that. I guess we will have to rely on the promotional materials from the IAEA.
ok, how about radon seeping into water tables from mine tailings or CFC114 emissions from enrichment (now thankful ceased) or megalitres of radioactive sulphuric acid slurry from acid leach mining or DU DU everywhere!
Yes there is
My brain is oxidizing.
Let's hope so. My understanding is that the Swiss are using Granite mountains and bentonite clays to deal with ground water penetration issues that come with the fracturing of the granite. Not perfect but a lot better than the pumice mountains of Yucca.
The most promising research is coming from Australia where they are trying to understand how to make Uranacites out of the U, pu, du. They are rare but exist in nature. Very beautiful crystal (greenish) and impervious to water. So fingers crossed!
No, it wouldn't be. Using nuclear power is the ultimate pv because we burn our own genome for enegy now. These radioisotopes alter our genome - that is fact. These radioisotopes are toxic and energetic for geological timespans, that is fact. We use legal construct to provide corporate welfare to the Nuclear industry to make it viable, that is fact.
Nuclear *could* be good if it was engineered properly. The NRC already commissioned the studies, the design changes are expensive. There is no way it can be privately owned and it would be an infrastructure project so large even the economy of the US would have to be restructured to accommodate it (if you are serious about it). Materials science advancements would be required as well. They are dangerous elements which deserve our respect wrt handling, the reactor needs to be disposed of as well as the fuel. That all has to be designed.
Of course, that would mean we could actually talk about it like rational human beings however the mindspace of this discussion is polluted with fanbois and morons hellbent on imposing the 'idealized' version of nuclear power onto reality. It's kinda boring, really.
I'm so very glad you bough that up, check my sig friend, it's not my ism I am talking about.
OK, let me get you started. This is the peer reviewed science that show nuclear power provides no Net Energy Return with contributions from about 10 Universities around the world, including CERN.
That would be like saying climate change is bullshit, but I kind of like it.
Yeah fuckit, I'm a nuclear denier. I deny Nuclear is a real solution to climate change. I'll start calling the nutty nukker fanbois, physics deniers, better FACT deniers or 'unable to provide fact'ers - but I jest ho ho ho.
Easy solution: Give regulatory control of the nuclear power industry to the navy. No joke.
Admiral Rickover was responsible for designing the systems that created that safety record. You need someone like him to do that with these different reactors and he did not put up with the stupidity that we see from the nutty nukker fringe here at slashdot.
I tend to agree with his sentiments about them.
They do it by standardizing
Been attempted with SNUPPS which is the basis of AP1000. EPR is a better reactor though.