The reword is that the companies pay the US companies for programming to broadcast in their home market. In turn they get to sell that programing in our market. The HBO market is the US, while Movie Central's is Canada. It's an agreed split.
In the end, we get to see the same things as are in the states, we just pay the Canadian broker who would be screwed over if they had to pay HBO for the content and then have to compete them at the same time. As a result, we buy from Canadian providers and Americans buy from US providers.
Government isn't going to give up it's power. Our nature as humans is once we've got a leg up on someone, we are loathe to give it up.
In the end though, I prefer to see a mix of market forces and government regulation. It keeps the corporations in check, and the corporations keep the government from running amok.
As long as humans are involved in the process, I think it is the best we can do.
Censorship goes on all the time though. In the states, they can only watch the Sopranos on the air uncut over cable, in Canada we can watch it uncut on regular, good ole CTV. The Patriot Act plays all kinds of havoc with civil liberties as well.
I did read your other reply, but unlike many slashdotters, I went out last night and partied and was unfit to answer. The issue is that here, we force cable companies to carry the CBC (and other channels) like other channels bundled together (they do that in the states too), but because of treaties with the US, the companies have to buy programming from the US to rebroadcast here. The companies in turn lobby so they don't have to compete against the carriers they have to pay for the programming.
In effect, while it seems like the government is driving it all, it is actually another example of that north american phenomenon of government by lobbying.
The purpose of the ban was clear, it was a vain hope, but a hope to try to keep a clean jury pool. It became evident during the inquiry to the judge (that was hostile to the government) that criminal proceeding would arise because of the testimony. Hence he tried to ensure as best he could a fair trial.
In the end, it was in vain, people saw it, and no one went to jail.
As far as having "strategic" industries, you can disagree with them all you like, but they exist. Even in the ole USA
True, I did, but that would be 600 million and they (Mexico and Central America) really are a reqion unto themselves. If they ever get organized, they will be an economic powerhouse themselves. The point was six million Quebecers would be horribly outnumbered.
To be fair, Quebec allows people to communicate in any language privately, but some of their other policies would not be tolerated anywhere else that I would go visit. That and their dislike of the aboriginals and "ethnics". It is right out of the 30's. Bizarre in the here and now.
Ironically, the harder you try to preserve and freeze a culture the faster it dies. This is one the world could do without.
Sorry, not all things can be purely market driven. Some things, like an indigenous broadcast industry are in the national interest. What a nation considers to be a vital interest is up to the nation. You can be busted and fined for trying to bring a cup of foreign rice into Japan.
Perhaps, but for once I'd like to see something on bioscience not degenerate into a philosophical spat. I think people having religion is great, they are generally happier and well adjusted. It's the kooks who take it to extremes that become terrorists and the annoying who shove tract literature at you.
You get boned the most. A pound is supposedly worth #1.88 US ($2.30 CDN). I went on a road trip through the US last summer and I was quite surprised to see prices more or less the same, only in US dollars. The border towns have some lower prices, but that is to get Canadians across the border to shop. Electronics, boozes and smokes were a bit cheaper, but not staggeringly so. It used to be those three items were substantially cheaper.
Kind of makes you wonder what the point is when you are talking relative currency value. Money is just paper until you turn it into something.
Well, duh... it does contain information about evolution, it was published by a university, by scientists and their ilk. It boggles my mind that in the 21rst century, on the internet, in a place where people with a grasp of science come to dialogue, that we have to wade through crap posted by the superstitious defending their mythology. Of course, people try to argue with them from a scientific basis while they just go "no, no, non. blah, blah, blah, with their fingers in their ears.
You want to believe, fine, believe, you want to hand out tract literature showing how unless everybody follows your beliefs that a disembodied thumb will squish you into the ground, fine, but stick to your own kind. Go on a picnic, it is a beautiful Saturn's Day outside. Bring along some books to burn so you can toast your wafers.
Maybe so, but the conservative alliance will never get elected until they lose the so-cons and the NDP, well, they are politically speaking, an animated corpse
Actually it has less to do with "preserving the culture" than helping the Canadian industry to survive. Almost all the shows on the channels are available in Canada from Canadian providers. Movie Central, for example, airs Deadwood, Carnivale etc and pays HBO for the rights.
The economies of scale between Canada and the US are such that in many areas if we want to have an idigenous industry locally owned, they have to have a bulwark against US companies which service a market of 275 million. Canada is not alone in doing this kind of thing, many countries do it.
Hell, try importing a cup of rice into Japan sometime
Not any more thanks to shrub running the country into the ground. Here's an interesting thing. I have found that prices in Canada and the US are the same for most goods. You just pay them in american dollars.
No, not really, and in response to another reply, I didn't include Mexico and Central America in the population numbers because they are predominatly Spanish speaking and combined have 300 million people as well.
I do wonder though how the rest of the continent would view a nation being founded in their midst that has born on the basis of racial and cultural purity.
Interestingly there is a huge prejudice in Quebec to dark skinned French speakers and most of the French speaking countries that are a primary source of immigration are in fact in Africa, the Carribean, and places like Viet Nam
I personally always figured that if Quebec separated their language would be doomed. Right now, they get the benefit of being part of a market of 32 million that requires bilingualism on products etc. If they separated, they would be a market of about six million on a continent of 300 million english speakers.
Companies right now absorb the cost of the bilingual labelling, I doubt they would be willing to do so for such a small market.
It's hard to say whether or not the petition will have any effect in the end. Artists have to be paid in north american society in order to produce and at the same time the consumer expects a degree of degree of ownership over what they've bought. You can argue all you want that software, music etc can't be bought, or licensed for use, but when money has changed hands people get funny about it. There's also the issue of what the price of the media should be to properly reimburse the artist in a sustainable fashion.
The industry companies, however, are a different matter. Their business model is completely and irrevocably broken no matter what law comes down the pike. Yet, they cling to it. These same companies that were used to exorbitant profits for the longest time, the same ones that were nailed for price fixing not that long ago, are desperately trying to prop up a way of doing business that began to spiral downwards since the first consumer audio recording was possible. The internet was just the last nail in the coffin of that business model. I find it ironic that the most successful service to date, the Apple service, has been getting pressure to raise prices. Obviously Apple can make cash at a 99 cent price point. So can the industry members, they just don't want it. They want to keep things the way they are and are willing to go to court and endure bad pr to do it.
In the end though, it is all less than a finger in the dike. I wonder what would happen if big names artists at the end of their contracts began to use some of their elaborate home studios to sell direct to the public over the net? They could probably do quite well selling music at 99 cents a song without having to line some record executive's pockets. At the most, I'd say the present way the record companies operate has maybe five years left. That is regardless of whether downloading is legal or illegal.
It is all about the software, this is true. As for the materials used in the aircraft you mentioned, they have been around quite a while. Before these items are implemented in aircraft, they have been tested and developed for quite along time. Single crystal metals are nothing new. What you are seeing are refinements, and that will be an on-going process.
As for how far the Japanese (or anyone else) will go with their program, it is impossible to say right now. But such programs are the path to developing future technologies.
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No, I like my horse. And if they want to spout their stuff they can head over to talkorigins et al
The reword is that the companies pay the US companies for programming to broadcast in their home market. In turn they get to sell that programing in our market. The HBO market is the US, while Movie Central's is Canada. It's an agreed split.
In the end, we get to see the same things as are in the states, we just pay the Canadian broker who would be screwed over if they had to pay HBO for the content and then have to compete them at the same time. As a result, we buy from Canadian providers and Americans buy from US providers.
Government isn't going to give up it's power. Our nature as humans is once we've got a leg up on someone, we are loathe to give it up.
In the end though, I prefer to see a mix of market forces and government regulation. It keeps the corporations in check, and the corporations keep the government from running amok.
As long as humans are involved in the process, I think it is the best we can do.
Censorship goes on all the time though. In the states, they can only watch the Sopranos on the air uncut over cable, in Canada we can watch it uncut on regular, good ole CTV. The Patriot Act plays all kinds of havoc with civil liberties as well.
I did read your other reply, but unlike many slashdotters, I went out last night and partied and was unfit to answer. The issue is that here, we force cable companies to carry the CBC (and other channels) like other channels bundled together (they do that in the states too), but because of treaties with the US, the companies have to buy programming from the US to rebroadcast here. The companies in turn lobby so they don't have to compete against the carriers they have to pay for the programming.
In effect, while it seems like the government is driving it all, it is actually another example of that north american phenomenon of government by lobbying.
I don't know how they would react to the spanish speakers, their gripe seems to be with Canada itself, though I have never met a selective bigot.
The purpose of the ban was clear, it was a vain hope, but a hope to try to keep a clean jury pool. It became evident during the inquiry to the judge (that was hostile to the government) that criminal proceeding would arise because of the testimony. Hence he tried to ensure as best he could a fair trial.
In the end, it was in vain, people saw it, and no one went to jail.
As far as having "strategic" industries, you can disagree with them all you like, but they exist. Even in the ole USA
Maybe so, but that is not the argument most creationists make. Theories evolve, sadly, dogma does not.
True, I did, but that would be 600 million and they (Mexico and Central America) really are a reqion unto themselves. If they ever get organized, they will be an economic powerhouse themselves. The point was six million Quebecers would be horribly outnumbered.
To be fair, Quebec allows people to communicate in any language privately, but some of their other policies would not be tolerated anywhere else that I would go visit. That and their dislike of the aboriginals and "ethnics". It is right out of the 30's. Bizarre in the here and now. Ironically, the harder you try to preserve and freeze a culture the faster it dies. This is one the world could do without.
Sorry, not all things can be purely market driven. Some things, like an indigenous broadcast industry are in the national interest. What a nation considers to be a vital interest is up to the nation. You can be busted and fined for trying to bring a cup of foreign rice into Japan.
Perhaps, but for once I'd like to see something on bioscience not degenerate into a philosophical spat. I think people having religion is great, they are generally happier and well adjusted. It's the kooks who take it to extremes that become terrorists and the annoying who shove tract literature at you.
You get boned the most. A pound is supposedly worth #1.88 US ($2.30 CDN). I went on a road trip through the US last summer and I was quite surprised to see prices more or less the same, only in US dollars. The border towns have some lower prices, but that is to get Canadians across the border to shop. Electronics, boozes and smokes were a bit cheaper, but not staggeringly so. It used to be those three items were substantially cheaper.
Kind of makes you wonder what the point is when you are talking relative currency value. Money is just paper until you turn it into something.
Well, duh... it does contain information about evolution, it was published by a university, by scientists and their ilk. It boggles my mind that in the 21rst century, on the internet, in a place where people with a grasp of science come to dialogue, that we have to wade through crap posted by the superstitious defending their mythology. Of course, people try to argue with them from a scientific basis while they just go "no, no, non. blah, blah, blah, with their fingers in their ears.
You want to believe, fine, believe, you want to hand out tract literature showing how unless everybody follows your beliefs that a disembodied thumb will squish you into the ground, fine, but stick to your own kind. Go on a picnic, it is a beautiful Saturn's Day outside. Bring along some books to burn so you can toast your wafers.
Pal, if you haven't noticed, the french come pre-offended.
Maybe so, but the conservative alliance will never get elected until they lose the so-cons and the NDP, well, they are politically speaking, an animated corpse
Actually it has less to do with "preserving the culture" than helping the Canadian industry to survive. Almost all the shows on the channels are available in Canada from Canadian providers. Movie Central, for example, airs Deadwood, Carnivale etc and pays HBO for the rights. The economies of scale between Canada and the US are such that in many areas if we want to have an idigenous industry locally owned, they have to have a bulwark against US companies which service a market of 275 million. Canada is not alone in doing this kind of thing, many countries do it. Hell, try importing a cup of rice into Japan sometime
Not any more thanks to shrub running the country into the ground. Here's an interesting thing. I have found that prices in Canada and the US are the same for most goods. You just pay them in american dollars.
Serves him right for shopping at best buy. Remember, friends don't let friends shop at best buy
No, not really, and in response to another reply, I didn't include Mexico and Central America in the population numbers because they are predominatly Spanish speaking and combined have 300 million people as well.
I do wonder though how the rest of the continent would view a nation being founded in their midst that has born on the basis of racial and cultural purity.
Interestingly there is a huge prejudice in Quebec to dark skinned French speakers and most of the French speaking countries that are a primary source of immigration are in fact in Africa, the Carribean, and places like Viet Nam
I personally always figured that if Quebec separated their language would be doomed. Right now, they get the benefit of being part of a market of 32 million that requires bilingualism on products etc. If they separated, they would be a market of about six million on a continent of 300 million english speakers.
Companies right now absorb the cost of the bilingual labelling, I doubt they would be willing to do so for such a small market.
It wouldn't necessarily stop, but they couldn't do it professionally. A guy's gotta eat (women too I hear).
It's hard to say whether or not the petition will have any effect in the end. Artists have to be paid in north american society in order to produce and at the same time the consumer expects a degree of degree of ownership over what they've bought. You can argue all you want that software, music etc can't be bought, or licensed for use, but when money has changed hands people get funny about it. There's also the issue of what the price of the media should be to properly reimburse the artist in a sustainable fashion.
The industry companies, however, are a different matter. Their business model is completely and irrevocably broken no matter what law comes down the pike. Yet, they cling to it. These same companies that were used to exorbitant profits for the longest time, the same ones that were nailed for price fixing not that long ago, are desperately trying to prop up a way of doing business that began to spiral downwards since the first consumer audio recording was possible. The internet was just the last nail in the coffin of that business model. I find it ironic that the most successful service to date, the Apple service, has been getting pressure to raise prices. Obviously Apple can make cash at a 99 cent price point. So can the industry members, they just don't want it. They want to keep things the way they are and are willing to go to court and endure bad pr to do it.
In the end though, it is all less than a finger in the dike. I wonder what would happen if big names artists at the end of their contracts began to use some of their elaborate home studios to sell direct to the public over the net? They could probably do quite well selling music at 99 cents a song without having to line some record executive's pockets. At the most, I'd say the present way the record companies operate has maybe five years left. That is regardless of whether downloading is legal or illegal.
It is all about the software, this is true. As for the materials used in the aircraft you mentioned, they have been around quite a while. Before these items are implemented in aircraft, they have been tested and developed for quite along time. Single crystal metals are nothing new. What you are seeing are refinements, and that will be an on-going process.
As for how far the Japanese (or anyone else) will go with their program, it is impossible to say right now. But such programs are the path to developing future technologies.
Aide: It means you can live forever Shrub: I can live for ever! Aide: Yes, everyone can! Shrub: What good is that?
Don't give him any ideas
Shrub will see to it no american gets to work on such an immoral technology.