I of course do not agree with their ruling there,They are trying to stop the problem by destroying the victims of it . They would have no problem if they actually did something about the problem of homophobia there but they don't , it is a pick and mix application of the rules .
Someone who is attracted to post pubescent children is an Ephebophilia (an adult who does that is) a pedophile is in reference to someone who is attracted to pre pubescent children . Whilst ephebophilia is arguably cultural to a large extent , Pedophilia is not really seen in the same light. though today the term Ephebophile is largely unused .
"What about the Taiwanese? Do they still speak Tanglish, or do they now speak "Republic of Chenglish"?" I had thought that Places under PRC control only spoke when allowed
I actually should have clarified my first post a little , It was in response to blizzard's response which was phrased with other things which are clearly choices as opposed to natural.I wouldn't have complained about it if say they had said "Groups on Ethnicity , country of origin and Sexual preference" . This other bit is another issue though related , and in response to other posts .
I should probably have phrased it differently.. Perhaps they are not being intentionally bigoted . The word as an insult derived from the slur on homosexuals , just because they don't mean it in that way does not mean that it is not hurtful to someone who is Gay and has had to put up with insults like that .
I quite agree with you , it most likely was a business decision, Fiscally it probably makes a lot of sense , ethically however it is rather untoward . Had they been honest about it , I would have a little more respect for them . They are however selectively choosing when to enforce their own rules , if you make rules then stick by them..
this entire story is by it's nature pure flame-bait , I am not trying to incite a flamewar here , only state my views on the apparent hypocrisy .
No you had a choice , Just as I had a choice to follow the my Jewish religious side or not.You are not forced to follow the will of G-d , you are however bound by your sexual preference in who you find attractive. This would normally not be an issue as people have stated above with their polices saying no groups about any thing of that nature.. but the rampant homophobia in game is ignored whilst people wishing to avoid it are castigated
I have an inherent interest in doing away with anti-semitism.So perhaps I am biased.. people can choose to become Jewish , some people are born ethnically Jewish as well , so that doesn't wash. though Anti-semites don't give a shit about whether you chose to be Jewish or if your Jewish parents begot you .
I am not here to prove to you a common theory on Homosexuality , there is plenty of info on this for you to study , either at your local university library or on google even . However what I am stating is that allowing bigots to use Faggot as an insult all the time , then starting on a group which is a safe haven for people who don't want to hide what they are and to avoid hatred.. is frankly appalling
No this is exactly the issue , WOW is rampant with homophobic speech as has been conveyed to me by many friends who are addicted . It is natural that people would want to avoid a hostile environment and try to become part of a community in a community where they are accepted and don't risk insult because of who they are , even if not directed at them it is still really irritating . Imagine sitting through a conversation with someone who was insulting who you are .
As for proving it , well , I don't find men attractive,simple as that .
Basically what Blizzard are doing is trying to keep them quite as they are offering a safe haven , in case it offends some bigots.. instead of tracking down the bigots .
", we prohibit mention of topics related to sensitive real-world subjects in open chat within the game, and we do our best to take action whenever we see such topics being broadcast. This includes openly advertising a guild friendly to players based on a particular political, sexual, or religious preference,"
You decide upon your political allegiances You decide upon your religion beliefs You do not Choose your sexual preference .
I no more chose to be straight than a gay person chose to be gay
You see why most Stars keep single is , that ones that have recently suffered a tough break up seem to Join Scientology . Others who have had relationships with Black holes have said "Once you've gone Black , there is no going back, especially once you cross the event horizon"
I realised that just after posting;) , it should be on my list of idiot checks . You know those times where you are trying to solve a rather complex problem and wonder why your debuging is to no avail , then realise you are debugging the wrong program. Or rip out the motherboard and ram , start doing diagnostics on them , then realise you had the power supply switched to 0
I feel like a bit of a twit , the moment I posted that I realised that I had it set up to send WMV to VLC instead of quicktime. Was rather hilarious , I think that was Chris Morris as the Boss , the guy who made Brass eye. Rather enjoyable.. would be better if they killed the laugh track , but I assume it is just teething problems .
I have been trying to download the episode with both safari and Firefox , however I seem to be having no luck. Looks like you have to be using windows , so perhaps mac users are out of luck . though I could be wrong and just having problems on my end.
That misses the entire point , it's not the material which is the problem but how it is produced. What a firewall does is sweep the problem under the carpet, It does not stop the children being abused. what is needed is international co-operation to track down these people . (In this case IIRC these were not altered images )
People who are sexual attracted to children have a serious problem that needs addressed . Their crime however is not the burning it , or looking at it , or even being attracted to it , the crime in my eyes is not reporting the existence of the site to the authorities . You are allowing the abuse of children to continue by not doing anything to stop it .
Unfortunatly , they had "Property of the US milatry written on the side".. There have been numerous claims refuting that that happened and it is strongly suspected the General had been put up.Syria of-course denies all knowledge. Not that I am a great fan of Syria, but it all seems a little ominous
He could walk,or if travelling over seas,swim . So it is not unconstitutional to ID someone as it does not restrict your right to travel , you have alternatives.. just non practical ones . Kind of like having Freedom of speech , but being able to be arrested for doing it in the wrong place.
America Has freedom of speech on the books , China does not . If goggle want's to operate in China they have little choice on the matter , The Chinese government is not famous for its leniency on such issues
I know you have freedom of speech in the USA, I was however unaware about the amendment that allowed the government to stick you in a sound shielded room so nobody hears you.
Stupid for take 2 perhaps , although like the first utterance of "Fuck" on TV in the 1960 , they may have pushed the boundaries that little bit further.. not intentionally mind you and they were the victims of a witch hunt* because of it . I think though that in the long run we may all benefit , perhaps it looks a little grim right now with all the Vote currying , but after this dies down and is forgotten then we may notice the changed landscape and what is acceptable . Parents may also for once take an interest in what their child is playing and deem for themselves if it acceptable or not , but that is just a pipe dream
*Wondering If I should replace Witch hunt with a more modern but relevant term,such as Satanic Ritual abuse scare.. but that would be too long. Perhaps we could call it a Hot Coffee : A moral panic surround Games
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I of course do not agree with their ruling there ,They are trying to stop the problem by destroying the victims of it . They would have no problem if they actually did something about the problem of homophobia there but they don't , it is a pick and mix application of the rules .
I would love to have taken those tests when I was 13-14 ;)
Someone who is attracted to post pubescent children is an Ephebophilia (an adult who does that is) a pedophile is in reference to someone who is attracted to pre pubescent children .
Whilst ephebophilia is arguably cultural to a large extent , Pedophilia is not really seen in the same light.
though today the term Ephebophile is largely unused .
"What about the Taiwanese? Do they still speak Tanglish, or do they now speak "Republic of Chenglish"?"
I had thought that Places under PRC control only spoke when allowed
I wasn't attacking the restriction , but the wording of their response .
I actually should have clarified my first post a little , It was in response to blizzard's response which was phrased with other things which are clearly choices as opposed to natural .I wouldn't have complained about it if say they had said "Groups on Ethnicity , country of origin and Sexual preference" .
This other bit is another issue though related , and in response to other posts .
I should probably have phrased it differently .. Perhaps they are not being intentionally bigoted . The word as an insult derived from the slur on homosexuals , just because they don't mean it in that way does not mean that it is not hurtful to someone who is Gay and has had to put up with insults like that .
I quite agree with you , it most likely was a business decision, Fiscally it probably makes a lot of sense , ethically however it is rather untoward . ..
Had they been honest about it , I would have a little more respect for them . They are however selectively choosing when to enforce their own rules , if you make rules then stick by them
this entire story is by it's nature pure flame-bait , I am not trying to incite a flamewar here , only state my views on the apparent hypocrisy .
No you had a choice , Just as I had a choice to follow the my Jewish religious side or not .You are not forced to follow the will of G-d , you are however bound by your sexual preference in who you find attractive. .. but the rampant homophobia in game is ignored whilst people wishing to avoid it are castigated
This would normally not be an issue as people have stated above with their polices saying no groups about any thing of that nature
I have an inherent interest in doing away with anti-semitism .So perhaps I am biased..
.. is frankly appalling
people can choose to become Jewish , some people are born ethnically Jewish as well , so that doesn't wash.
though Anti-semites don't give a shit about whether you chose to be Jewish or if your Jewish parents begot you .
I am not here to prove to you a common theory on Homosexuality , there is plenty of info on this for you to study , either at your local university library or on google even .
However what I am stating is that allowing bigots to use Faggot as an insult all the time , then starting on a group which is a safe haven for people who don't want to hide what they are and to avoid hatred
No this is exactly the issue , WOW is rampant with homophobic speech as has been conveyed to me by many friends who are addicted .
,simple as that .
.. instead of tracking down the bigots .
It is natural that people would want to avoid a hostile environment and try to become part of a community in a community where they are accepted and don't risk insult because of who they are , even if not directed at them it is still really irritating .
Imagine sitting through a conversation with someone who was insulting who you are .
As for proving it , well , I don't find men attractive
Basically what Blizzard are doing is trying to keep them quite as they are offering a safe haven , in case it offends some bigots
", we prohibit mention of topics related to sensitive real-world subjects in open chat within the game, and we do our best to take action whenever we see such topics being broadcast. This includes openly advertising a guild friendly to players based on a particular political, sexual, or religious preference,"
You decide upon your political allegiances
You decide upon your religion beliefs
You do not Choose your sexual preference .
I no more chose to be straight than a gay person chose to be gay
You see why most Stars keep single is , that ones that have recently suffered a tough break up seem to Join Scientology .
Others who have had relationships with Black holes have said "Once you've gone Black , there is no going back, especially once you cross the event horizon"
I realised that just after posting ;) , it should be on my list of idiot checks . You know those times where you are trying to solve a rather complex problem and wonder why your debuging is to no avail , then realise you are debugging the wrong program.
Or rip out the motherboard and ram , start doing diagnostics on them , then realise you had the power supply switched to 0
I feel like a bit of a twit , the moment I posted that I realised that I had it set up to send WMV to VLC instead of quicktime. .. would be better if they killed the laugh track , but I assume it is just teething problems .
Was rather hilarious , I think that was Chris Morris as the Boss , the guy who made Brass eye.
Rather enjoyable
I have been trying to download the episode with both safari and Firefox , however I seem to be having no luck.
Looks like you have to be using windows , so perhaps mac users are out of luck . though I could be wrong and just having problems on my end.
That misses the entire point , it's not the material which is the problem but how it is produced. What a firewall does is sweep the problem under the carpet, It does not stop the children being abused. what is needed is international co-operation to track down these people .
(In this case IIRC these were not altered images )
People who are sexual attracted to children have a serious problem that needs addressed .
Their crime however is not the burning it , or looking at it , or even being attracted to it , the crime in my eyes is not reporting the existence of the site to the authorities .
You are allowing the abuse of children to continue by not doing anything to stop it .
Unfortunatly , they had "Property of the US milatry written on the side" .. There have been numerous claims refuting that that happened and it is strongly suspected the General had been put up .Syria of-course denies all knowledge.
Not that I am a great fan of Syria, but it all seems a little ominous
He could walk ,or if travelling over seas ,swim . .. just non practical ones .
So it is not unconstitutional to ID someone as it does not restrict your right to travel , you have alternatives
Kind of like having Freedom of speech , but being able to be arrested for doing it in the wrong place.
Don't forget Chairs , he has been known to give chairs to members of the Audience .
He also offered to arrange the funeral of everyone at Google
Is that a quote from 1984 or Microsoft's marketing department?
America Has freedom of speech on the books , China does not .
If goggle want's to operate in China they have little choice on the matter , The Chinese government is not famous for its leniency on such issues
I know you have freedom of speech in the USA, I was however unaware about the amendment that allowed the government to stick you in a sound shielded room so nobody hears you.
Stupid for take 2 perhaps , although like the first utterance of "Fuck" on TV in the 1960 , they may have pushed the boundaries that little bit further .. not intentionally mind you and they were the victims of a witch hunt* because of it . I think though that in the long run we may all benefit , perhaps it looks a little grim right now with all the Vote currying , but after this dies down and is forgotten then we may notice the changed landscape and what is acceptable .
,such as Satanic Ritual abuse scare.. but that would be too long.
Parents may also for once take an interest in what their child is playing and deem for themselves if it acceptable or not , but that is just a pipe dream
*Wondering If I should replace Witch hunt with a more modern but relevant term
Perhaps we could call it a Hot Coffee : A moral panic surround Games