I understand your sentiment , though i would be loath for those Racist scum to actualy get any seats,it may actualy help get some policys against their Jingoistic xenophoboia. The national front are getting stamped on wherever they move , check out the Anti-nazi leauge uk page http://www.anl.org.uk/campaigns.htm they ussualy keep a whatch on the BNP and the likes. Unfortunatly the ANL have no real sway atall , but they do help us keep tracks on the racists and know what they are up to. The sooner this crap is stamped out the better. I am all fro freedoms of belifes and such like , but when it threatens to destroy the freedom of others then i get peeved
i more ment that one as a bit of a joke.. it kind of got lost though. infact the whole post was ment not to be taken to heart. Just alot of folks have such strong feelings on the subject , They see scotish independance sentiment as if we hate the english or something and get pissed off. Its not about that atall as i am sure you understand even if your not for the SNP independance movment.
So just to clarify , people should not of taken that remark to heart , it was ment as a freindly joke
Unfortunatly the English national pride thing got hijacked by those bast*rds in the BNP and such like. I am fine with English-men and women being proud to hhave their national identity as English, its quite a shame the racists hijacked much of the sentiment. Many of my freinds from down south , or up in the north of England(well since im in germany its all kind of north west to me now but nevermind) call themselves English , it does really get to them that it got hijacked aswell.
You lot down south need to start to reclaim it from the likes of the BNP
I guess i am a bit of an idealist , many of the SNPs policys i like though they are very Idealistic which kind of works for me as they are rather infitting with my idium.
MY view on the union is why does it need to end after independance , we could still have strong trade and cooperation on many things , also independance would give us a stronger voice in the EU.We would still be commenwealth and have alot of the benefits and we could cooperate on crime and have a very open border.
Personaly after independance i would most likely vote SSP , or a new scottish labour(hopefully it would be labour unlike new labour) and there is also the lib dems. right now i see the snp as a means to an end. The devolved power was always just a token to keep the snp hopefully quiet and the independance movment down.
I would also be happy with that , it wouldnt be the way i see as ideal . alot better than what we have now though. The commen sentiment does seem to be that the monopoly needs split somehow , its just going to be hard to push that issue onto Tory Blair.Nothing has been done to strengthen oftel and nothing seems to get done with these monopolys. So whether it be partialy state owned or owned by private firms something just needs to be done , otherwise everyone will continue to get screwed over.
that was a joke , its not really an insult we just dislike it(some of us). Wales also has a strong sense of national pride (not that i am welsh but i have freinds from wales who are in clyde cumri) If you ask them where they are from they will say Wales and i know the sentiment is also strong in wales. Eire is also part of the brittish isle but you wouldnt call them Brittish.
Its about our national identiy really. when i say brittish you may instantly think of the English culture which is in many ways difrent . this is what we want to move away from that identifier by identifying ourselves as Scottish
The only reuninting we would hope for , was to join Eire as a free nation within the EU and the UN.
A large part of my family is from Eire,on my grandfathers side(he was born there). I have a good background knowlidge in the historys of the celtic,pictish and Scotts from school.It would be nice to think we could have good trade relations , like with all other nations. Though i wouldnt see a uninting of these nations other than within the EU as being benifical . The EU is the way forward for now , and hopefully soon we will joing with the other nations of the world and realise there is no point in war . Yes i am a bit of a dreamer but i belive it will happen eventualy. Good to see not all anon cowards use it for trolling though. I have moved the discusion to my journal as this is really going to get offtopic.
The exchange should be privatised the lines state owned , the company instead of paying the cash to BT a private company for line rental would pay it to the national coughers . So instead of one company benefiting,everyone would upgrades would be then be made into a policy hopefully this policy would be to make them regular and to the benifit of the people , well atleast the people.
The state would not fund this , the private exchange holders would . it would just be fully under state controll. Perhaps they were subsidised , but either way we have to pay the same ammount or more , it just changes how we pay it
give you a little background into scottish national pride , dont equate it to other nationalist movments , it is rather for globalism and pro EU. this has just been about being recognised
many people naturaly equate national pride to hatred of other nations or Belife in superiorty. This is in no way true for the SNP and like movements in Scotland such as the SSP Being a Scottish nationalist is not about your hatred of the rest its about your love for your land and the people who live there.This includes any people who live there of whatever religion , Creed or nationality.
To be recognised as our own country through the will of the people so we can fully join the EU and progress and be allowed to make decision which benifit us and the world and have our voices heard.
Its about independance and Freedom. http:///http://www.snp.org/> something of which i am sure many americans can relate to through their history , Remember America was in the same situation at one point.
the SNPs position on idependance is this
The primary aim of the SNP is to take Scotland forward to Independence. Independence means the Scottish Parliament having full control over Scottish affairs, and the right to decide when to share power with others. Devolution is not enough for Scotland. Independence would give us the same rights and the same responsibilities as other nations. It would give us a voice on the world stage and a say in international bodies like the UN and EU. And Independence would bring greater freedom for individuals, families and communities, within a society built on common interests.
Commen intrests not commen heritage . an important differance.
I like Dave Thompsons view on the subject
"We are a small and diverse nation but our diversity is our strength. My Independent Scotland will be a shining beacon in a darkened world, a force for good and a caring community, where all are valued."
This is a commen sentiment,to quote a piece from the manifesto of views of the snp
Our values These are the values which have shaped and influenced the development of SNP policies, and which would guide us in government. 1. No one country and no one human being is worth more or less than any other. We believe in the right of sovereign peoples to self-determination. We believe that Scotland should be an independent country, equal with other countries in Europe and the world. We are committed to co-operation amongst nations in pursuit of peaceful co- existence and the creation of a stable international community. We believe nations must be free to decide how they co-operate to create economic prosperity, deliver social justice and protect the environment. We affirm our commitment to the Charter of the United Nations, and its demand that all nations protect and assert the human rights of the individual. The SNP is committed to the principle of equality of opportunity. That means the prohibition of discrimination on the grounds of race, gender, age, sexuality, faith, belief, ability, status or social background in the exercise of constitutional rights. The SNP's commitment to equality of opportunity demands an end to poverty and in particular to child poverty, which blights the life-chances of so many young people of Scotland.
Its about equality mate not hatred.
What this has to with BT and the topic is simply this , Because of the conservitive majority(now new labour otherwise known as old conservative our views were erroded and simply we had to sit there and take it , so many of these state monoplys have been turned from a monopoly we can influence to something we have little choise over but is still a monopoly. We are forced to pay out the nose as more and mor
That really is horrible , I am not to fammilar with the NZ system. Having a dig i notice they up-play the variety of services(which seem rather good) but downplay speed and cost , 35 for a 256Kbps services is rather offputting im paying the same (plus 15 more for line renatl) for a 2Mb in germany(which is still overpriced) I have a freind who lived in a rather rual location in Australian , he was paying around 50 for isdn single channel (iirc could have been less) I know the situations better in more populated areas though , is it the same in NZ with rural and populated areas
Ah thank you , i was unaware that they did that,? do you have a link.. After all i am an auslander;). I am rather fed up with T-online right now it took me a while to get info out of them as to how to set up my router properly to conect and they are terrible with billing . Hopefully ARCOS will be in my area (Mecklenburg-vorpommer in der nah vom Neubrandenburg )
I have a learning disability which has impared my spelling.I apoligise if i offended you or something , but lay off your hounds. I would suggest you learn a little tollerance
I was more hopping they would be eviscerated;) literaly but i suppose AT&T'd would do. Just anything to break the monopoly , Though i would like to see the lines state controlled i doubt thats going to happen so something ala the AT&T brakdown would be better than what they have now. Being in Germany right now , its the same situation . Whatever DSL i have i still must pay the line rental to T-COM (Detusches Telekom , Owners of T-Mobile T-com , T-DSL etc)
Couldn't agree more , if you call a Scotsman english its rather not in the intrest of your health;) heh. Actualy calling alot of Us Scotts brittish is pretty offensive for some of us , we are rather proud of being scottish
Most of these problems would likely not of occured if they hadn't privatised BT. Well the lines atleast , it gave the private BT a near unbreakable telephone monopoly outside of state controll due to the rather pathetic regulators.
If only they had just privatised the telephone service alone and kept the lines state owned we likely wouldnt see many of the problems. Everything must go through BT at one stage so prices are allowed to pile on and they have no real reason to worry about reducing costs as either way they make money.
Just my opinion , but i don't like infrastructes such as water,power , telephone lines and hospitals privatised . It has never reduced costs as they had said(well gave the reason as to why they did it) The trains are worse and more expensive than ever and telephone line costs have gone up.
It was an out and out charichter assasination atempt though. Legal action would probably solve nothing(as you said it would be a hard case as she was carefull), (just realised in my first post i called PJ , pamela robinson for some reason... ).
Some things of note i see
"But the super didn't know much about Pamela except that she had a computer, worked at home (maybe sometimes) for a lawyer, was "paranoid" - his word - and "sensitive to smells."
Afterwards Barbara called the cops, and then the cops called the number we left with her and the cops said that she was Pamela's mother and that Pamela was on the run and had shacked up with her mother because she had gotten "threatening mail" weeks before and that she had just gotten spooked again because "people were getting hurt around [my] stories" and had lighted out for Canada. [Photo: May 7, 2005 2:24 PM - [address removed], Connecticut. Mom's house, where PJ's car was last seen on this driveway.]
So, is this story-spooked 61-year-old Jehovah's Witness with religious tracts in her backseat also the 90-hour-a-week writer of the voluminous PJ diatribes or is she a victim of identity theft?
This i see as some rather odd for one she tries to paint her as mentaly unstable , She then goes on to insinuates that she may be an identity thief.
Both of which are charichter Defamations , and it dosn't matter one bit that she only insinuates it and that she wasn't the person who supposedly said it.
If i myself were to say something like oh say ' A freind of mine told me that O'Gara was a tallentless hack a shill and a fraud , not to mention a lier and most likely a plagerist' in a publication , i would be the one guilty of the suppposed libel , obviously that was just an example , having nothing to do with reality atall just to show you my point *Cough cough* sorry i have a cold *cough*
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Rimmer: But a Black Hole's a huge, compacted star! It's millions of miles wide! Why didn't you see it on the radar screen? Holly: Well, the thing about a Black Hole, its main distinguishing feature, is it's black. And the thing about space, your basic space colour is black. So how are you supposed to see them? Rimmer: But five of them! How can you be ambushed by five Black Holes? Holly: Always the way, isn't it? You hang around in deep space for three million years and you don't see one. Then, all of a sudden, five all turn up at once.
Quite true , but going to this effort makes me think she is missing a few screws. If it is all a lie then its a good thing , as its then defemation of charichter .
That is exactly what i was thinking , she is stalking the woman. There is no other way to describe it. The press has alot of freedoms and rightly so , but this is an abuse of those freedoms .
Can't deny that there is alot of evidence. I wouldnt care atall if they admited it and were open about the fact(if it is really hapening), i just dont like Ads which pretend to be factual information.
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I understand your sentiment , though i would be loath for those Racist scum to actualy get any seats ,it may actualy help get some policys against their Jingoistic xenophoboia. . .
The national front are getting stamped on wherever they move , check out the Anti-nazi leauge uk page http://www.anl.org.uk/campaigns.htm they ussualy keep a whatch on the BNP and the likes
Unfortunatly the ANL have no real sway atall , but they do help us keep tracks on the racists and know what they are up to
The sooner this crap is stamped out the better.
I am all fro freedoms of belifes and such like , but when it threatens to destroy the freedom of others then i get peeved
i more ment that one as a bit of a joke .. it kind of got lost though. . .
infact the whole post was ment not to be taken to heart
Just alot of folks have such strong feelings on the subject , They see scotish independance sentiment as if we hate the english or something and get pissed off
Its not about that atall as i am sure you understand even if your not for the SNP independance movment.
So just to clarify , people should not of taken that remark to heart , it was ment as a freindly joke
Unfortunatly the English national pride thing got hijacked by those bast*rds in the BNP and such like . . .
I am fine with English-men and women being proud to hhave their national identity as English, its quite a shame the racists hijacked much of the sentiment
Many of my freinds from down south , or up in the north of England(well since im in germany its all kind of north west to me now but nevermind)
call themselves English , it does really get to them that it got hijacked aswell
You lot down south need to start to reclaim it from the likes of the BNP
I guess i am a bit of an idealist , many of the SNPs policys i like though they are very Idealistic which kind of works for me as they are rather infitting with my idium.
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MY view on the union is why does it need to end after independance , we could still have strong trade and cooperation on many things , also independance would give us a stronger voice in the EU.We would still be commenwealth and have alot of the benefits and we could cooperate on crime and have a very open border.
Personaly after independance i would most likely vote SSP , or a new scottish labour(hopefully it would be labour unlike new labour) and there is also the lib dems
right now i see the snp as a means to an end
The devolved power was always just a token to keep the snp hopefully quiet and the independance movment down.
I would also be happy with that , it wouldnt be the way i see as ideal . alot better than what we have now though. .Nothing has been done to strengthen oftel and nothing seems to get done with these monopolys .
The commen sentiment does seem to be that the monopoly needs split somehow , its just going to be hard to push that issue onto Tory Blair
So whether it be partialy state owned or owned by private firms something just needs to be done , otherwise everyone will continue to get screwed over.
that was a joke , its not really an insult we just dislike it(some of us) . .
Wales also has a strong sense of national pride (not that i am welsh but i have freinds from wales who are in clyde cumri) If you ask them where they are from they will say Wales and i know the sentiment is also strong in wales.
Eire is also part of the brittish isle but you wouldnt call them Brittish
Its about our national identiy really. when i say brittish you may instantly think of the English culture which is in many ways difrent . this is what we want to move away from that identifier by identifying ourselves as Scottish
The only reuninting we would hope for , was to join Eire as a free nation within the EU and the UN . ,on my grandfathers side(he was born there). I have a good background knowlidge in the historys of the celtic ,pictish and Scotts from school.It would be nice to think we could have good trade relations , like with all other nations .
A large part of my family is from Eire
Though i wouldnt see a uninting of these nations other than within the EU as being benifical . The EU is the way forward for now , and hopefully soon we will joing with the other nations of the world and realise there is no point in war . Yes i am a bit of a dreamer but i belive it will happen eventualy.
Good to see not all anon cowards use it for trolling though.
I have moved the discusion to my journal as this is really going to get offtopic.
The exchange should be privatised the lines state owned , the company instead of paying the cash to BT a private company for line rental would pay it to the national coughers . So instead of one company benefiting ,everyone would
.
upgrades would be then be made into a policy hopefully this policy would be to make them regular and to the benifit of the people , well atleast the people.
The state would not fund this , the private exchange holders would . it would just be fully under state controll
Perhaps they were subsidised , but either way we have to pay the same ammount or more , it just changes how we pay it
this has just been about being recognised
many people naturaly equate national pride to hatred of other nations or Belife in superiorty
This is in no way true for the SNP and like movements in Scotland such as the SSP
Being a Scottish nationalist is not about your hatred of the rest its about your love for your land and the people who live there
To be recognised as our own country through the will of the people so we can fully join the EU and progress and be allowed to make decision which benifit us and the world and have our voices heard.
Its about independance and Freedom
http:///http://www.snp.org/> something of which i am sure many americans can relate to through their history , Remember America was in the same situation at one point.
the SNPs position on idependance is this
Commen intrests not commen heritage . an important differance .
I like Dave Thompsons view on the subject
This is a commen sentiment ,to quote a piece from the manifesto of views of the snp
Its about equality mate not hatred.
What this has to with BT and the topic is simply this , Because of the conservitive majority(now new labour otherwise known as old conservative our views were erroded and simply we had to sit there and take it , so many of these state monoplys have been turned from a monopoly we can influence to something we have little choise over but is still a monopoly. We are forced to pay out the nose as more and mor
That really is horrible , I am not to fammilar with the NZ system.
Having a dig i notice they up-play the variety of services(which seem rather good) but downplay speed and cost , 35 for a 256Kbps services is rather offputting im paying the same (plus 15 more for line renatl) for a 2Mb in germany(which is still overpriced)
I have a freind who lived in a rather rual location in Australian , he was paying around 50 for isdn single channel (iirc could have been less) I know the situations better in more populated areas though , is it the same in NZ with rural and populated areas
Ah thank you , i was unaware that they did that ,? do you have a link .. ;) .
After all i am an auslander
I am rather fed up with T-online right now it took me a while to get info out of them as to how to set up my router properly to conect and they are terrible with billing . Hopefully ARCOS will be in my area (Mecklenburg-vorpommer in der nah vom Neubrandenburg )
I have a learning disability which has impared my spelling .I apoligise if i offended you or something , but lay off your hounds .
I would suggest you learn a little tollerance
I was more hopping they would be eviscerated ;) literaly but i suppose AT&T'd would do. Just anything to break the monopoly , Though i would like to see the lines state controlled i doubt thats going to happen so something ala the AT&T brakdown would be better than what they have now .
Being in Germany right now , its the same situation . Whatever DSL i have i still must pay the line rental to T-COM (Detusches Telekom , Owners of T-Mobile T-com , T-DSL etc)
Couldn't agree more , if you call a Scotsman english its rather not in the intrest of your health ;) heh.
Actualy calling alot of Us Scotts brittish is pretty offensive for some of us , we are rather proud of being scottish
Most of these problems would likely not of occured if they hadn't privatised BT .
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,power , telephone lines and hospitals privatised . It has never reduced costs as they had said(well gave the reason as to why they did it) The trains are worse and more expensive than ever and telephone line costs have gone up.
Well the lines atleast , it gave the private BT a near unbreakable telephone monopoly outside of state controll due to the rather pathetic regulators.
If only they had just privatised the telephone service alone and kept the lines state owned we likely wouldnt see many of the problems
Everything must go through BT at one stage so prices are allowed to pile on and they have no real reason to worry about reducing costs as either way they make money.
Just my opinion , but i don't like infrastructes such as water
RedDwarf ,Cult Sci-fi comedy from the UK ;) out on DVD and VHS and most likely other places and ways
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that was the female Holly who said that one.
Legal action would probably solve nothing(as you said it would be a hard case as she was carefull), (just realised in my first post i called PJ , pamela robinson for some reason
Some things of note i see This i see as some rather odd for one she tries to paint her as mentaly unstable , She then goes on to insinuates that she may be an identity thief.
Both of which are charichter Defamations , and it dosn't matter one bit that she only insinuates it and that she wasn't the person who supposedly said it
If i myself were to say something like oh say ' A freind of mine told me that O'Gara was a tallentless hack a shill and a fraud , not to mention a lier and most likely a plagerist' in a publication , i would be the one guilty of the suppposed libel , obviously that was just an example , having nothing to do with reality atall just to show you my point *Cough cough* sorry i have a cold *cough*
http://www.macboy.com/cartoons/ballmer/
There was infact a video recorded to go along with it
You cant smoke , you cant drink and dammed if anyone can hear you scream.
Rimmer: But a Black Hole's a huge, compacted star! It's millions of miles wide! Why didn't you see it on the radar screen?
Holly: Well, the thing about a Black Hole, its main distinguishing feature, is it's black. And the thing about space, your basic space colour is black. So how are you supposed to see them?
Rimmer: But five of them! How can you be ambushed by five Black Holes?
Holly: Always the way, isn't it? You hang around in deep space for three million years and you don't see one. Then, all of a sudden, five all turn up at once.
Quite true , but going to this effort makes me think she is missing a few screws .
If it is all a lie then its a good thing , as its then defemation of charichter .
Not nessiceraly ,Making up the whole thing is just as unnerving .
That is exactly what i was thinking , she is stalking the woman . .
There is no other way to describe it
The press has alot of freedoms and rightly so , but this is an abuse of those freedoms .
Can't deny that there is alot of evidence . .
I wouldnt care atall if they admited it and were open about the fact(if it is really hapening), i just dont like Ads which pretend to be factual information