Alot of us never thought PHP could make a Dent in perl , but it did. if you had checked for python jobs just 2 years ago i would be amazed if you could find any.312 is a dent although a small one , and yes i do expect it to do what.Net has failed to do this as.NET has no real advantages over Java in the enterprise market , and the dependance on MS OSs is a real disadvantage in a market where Solaris etc still play a sizable part (mono is not an option right now). Python is able to run on all of these systems , Python has been proven over the years as a strong language and most importantly Python has the support of the OSS world which is becoming an increasingly large force in the industry. So maybe right now python cant take over , but 5-10 years down the line you may just see a very difrent picture
ofcourse i prefer ruby:: ruby puts "hello world" or how about shell:: echo "hello world" Examples like this are not fair , however i do belive python is easier than java
Marketing and support , Python is in dire need of some big name support , This is one of the primary reason Java became such a large player in the enterprise market .
I had a mental image of a new member of starfleet with an odd name..
However seeing python moving into the enterprise market would be grand. Python has really come on in strides in the past few years,it is easy to learn and has a massive collection of librarys for many difrent things , infact i am suprised it has not happend sooner.
Well i can honestly say i missed that , which is a shame as im sure i would have enjoyed my BeOS experiance far more had i of found it , Perhaps i will break out BeOS max 5 and give it a proper go,(I refuse to pay 100 euros for beta software such as zeta , Im more used to trying betas for free or being paid for using it). If it has Bash i think i can feel comfertable and see about installing KSH93 on it as i do love experimenting with OSs and the posix compliance makes this far easier
The main problem with the % system was that it made no sense. Smany times did i see games where one would get 85% and another 84% or 86% and what the hell was the 1% , or a game that was called truely average get a score of 75%. so alot of magazines moved to an out of 10 system which still had alot of problems as really scores of 2 , 3 , 4 or even 5 made no difrence. Fair enough some review systems using this had some rules but often it was truely arbitrary.
So nowadays most places have settled on No score just opinion or a 5 star system. Whilst i really dont respect gamespy reviews($$ etc) the score system makes alot more sense to me 5 is amazing dont miss it,4 is a great game worth buying,3 is average and enjoyable buy this if you like the genre , 2 is below average and may hold some fun for a fan of the genre of a fanatic(aka a star * game to star * fan), and 1 is tripe,Now that makes sense. However it needs to be coupled with a good review and good writting.
I totaly disagree with you on a couple of points here , the unix core is in no way holding OS X back,It is making it easy to port aplications to it and with the exstensible nature of it and the open core , it makes adding new features a snap(in). BeOS would have been missing some of the core features that make OS X such as the is with the NeXT base and its excelent rendering and PDF creation. The file system does have some bloat , although very little . Most of it is very usefull files and when you make your backups i think your making a few key mistakes. The design of a system like this means that you only need to back up a few key areas such as your user folder and perhaps your aplications folder if you wish (personaly i back up/etc and a few other key areas ),the rest can eassily be reinstalled from the CD.I imagine if backups are a problem for you then you are atempting to back up the wrong things.
The file meta data is not that bad however it is as of yet not on par with BeOSs excelent meta data types , however wait till tiger for that to change
I agree , Personaly i would not be using OS-X if it had been based on BeOS and i would of more than likely purchased alternate PPC hardware and be running linux or netBSD on it (which i do on most of my machines anyway). The reason alot of people in my position like OS X is the power behind the pretty interface , its a BSD and has all the advantages of a unix system there-in and also it has a gui and API that make it a real plesure to work in. Had it of been based on BeOS instead of NeXTs OS it would have missed the powerfull unix core and quite possibly would have not been as OSS freindly as it is today. Don't get me wrong i really did like BeOS,Though as a unix man i enjoy any unix type OS and am far more productive in that enviroment, Whilst BeOS was Posix complient iirc it was in no way a unix (ala no terminal). Apple did the right thing(lucked out) wilst going with NeXTstep and OpenStep as that was one dammed fine OS which is still useable today and in the form of OS X it has become updated graphicaly and now supports todays PPC hardware, Oh and they got Steve Jobs back who ("say what you must about the man ") is a rather excelent business man
wow thats an old troll you dont see often;) most trolls got bored of that one a while ago as most readers of slashdot know about cedega and know that linux distros like SuSE and mandrake are pretty much no brain installs.I was infact just sitting down to a game of morrowin on my laptop running debian just now.. However thank you for reminding me of some of the classics since i said i was on a mac.. You also forget to add one about 17MB file transfers taking 20 minutes and or a one button mouse quip..
OK im not Device programmer , but is it technicaly possible to create a virus that on certain brands of BIOSs using the hardware interface(i know MSI boards support software overclocking and many Graphics cards) could overclock the computer in some way and cause perminant dammage to the system as i am fairly certain you could and if so why is this not a more major worry as this could cause real damage
Well im rather fed up with this wonderfull third class treatment. So my three steps are to
1: Swear and moan about sony screwing up till i feel better 2: buy one from liksang 3: mod chip the machine if needed.
Seriously Europe is a very large market and sony is handing this market to nintendo on a platter , not that i mind as the DS is a fine machine. oh on the issue of mod chips , i do not use them to play pirate games , i use them fro two reasons , playing imports and using homebrew
This is another moronic desicions i have seen come from the current US administration in the field of scientific research. What worrys me most is the fact they are diverting the funding into short term yield millitary research project... Which given the current administrations track record is not a positive sign for world peace. The 20th centuary can be rememberd for many many things and i think DARPA deserves alot of respect for some of the CS projects it funded , however near totaly ignoring the long term benefits of CS research projects in favour of short term gains will just lead to problems further down the line. I was angry enough when the US gouvernemt decided to halt funding to Stem-cell research and other things , now here is another nail.
I was a bit harsh i do apoligise , i was more meaning the website though which i found hard to read.Alas i am no longer a designer and am already far too busy , though this thread does give us a good excuse to advertise for some;). I shall pass on the site to a few of my freinds who i know are very busy but you never know...I agree though , the OSS world is lacking in designers,if i wernt so comfertble as a sysadmin i would consider taking back up the design aspect
I must say as someone who used to work in smalltalk and has now extensive knowlidge of ruby, I would not underestimate ruby on rails. Smalltalk is great and squeak is very intresting and powerfull , though the development time with ruby and its comparitive speed is of far more intrest, the same can be said for ruby on rails,,It really is wonderfull. i shall take a look at squeak as i do have very fond memorys of smalltalk , however i am becoming a strong proponent of ruby day on day so it will take alot to convert me , However i always look forward to eatting my words if it helps make my life easier.
I must say , that as a web dev/designer I really fear the name of the ship will be the "Good ship lolypop" , I dont mean to be rude but wow , this is why there is design school
Ok this is quite unlikely , though what hapens if a troll decideds to waste his money on this and he ends up having a ship named the "USS fart-bonk-poo-sh*t-F*ck". I mean that could really break the illusion and harm sales.? did the aucthion have any rules to prevent this
If anyone still fell for these after reading the articles.. There was one really good April fools joke on slashdot yesterday , which would have been grand it been only one. The problem is that it was nuzzled in between some of the daft ones and thus made it so easy to pick out. "fool me once shame on me , Fool me twice shame on you , Fool me 7 or more times..." Seriously some the carefull planing that used to go into these jokes needs to be reintroduced, It seems hoaxing is a dead art.Seriously when that FFXI joke is considerd one of the more devious then i think they should take a look back for inspiration to thinks on the http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/ Now some of those were masterfull
That is something i have no problem with , i would prefer to call ARM a research company as IP is such a blanket term that it causes confusion like this. I see the same problem with Blogging also , we are dumping far to many diffrent things in the same basket.
If they want to take on a bussiness model such as ARM and continue research and development then license the tech fair enough , however if they want to become a leach and live on past glories with license fees and law suits then yes i would love to see them sell it off to a competitor and die. We dont need more companys in the ilk of SCO. when i said working for others i ment in the hippy sense;)
Indeed , a bussiness model in the ilk of ARM would be great , the tech i have been reading up is extremly intresting , but i would hate for them to become a leach company living off pure licenses and lawsuits
MY car gets 50 rods to the hogs head and thats the ways i likes it... Or on the other hand , If my calculations are correct in translating litres to gallons and miles to KM then my current car does about 55MPG
"Will the planned restructuring to a pure IP company help?" We do not need another Patent acruing company trying to screw with the tech econmy , Fair enough they jmay have good intentions now with this action but how long before "just this one" mentality takes over and they start sueing left right and center. If they would like to become a research company working for others to develop tech , then fair enough but not an IP company. I admire the transmeta chips and would think it a great shame if the company goes under , but i don't want to see another patent group. I Hope they get bought out by a firm in the industry
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Alot of us never thought PHP could make a Dent in perl , but it did. .312 is a dent although a small one , and yes i do expect it to do what .Net has failed to do this as .NET has no real advantages over Java in the enterprise market , and the dependance on MS OSs is a real disadvantage in a market where Solaris etc still play a sizable part .
if you had checked for python jobs just 2 years ago i would be amazed if you could find any
(mono is not an option right now).
Python is able to run on all of these systems , Python has been proven over the years as a strong language and most importantly Python has the support of the OSS world which is becoming an increasingly large force in the industry
So maybe right now python cant take over , but 5-10 years down the line you may just see a very difrent picture
ofcourse i prefer ruby::
ruby puts "hello world"
or how about shell:: echo "hello world"
Examples like this are not fair , however i do belive python is easier than java
Marketing and support , Python is in dire need of some big name support , This is one of the primary reason Java became such a large player in the enterprise market .
I had a mental image of a new member of starfleet with an odd name..
. ,it is easy to learn and has a massive collection of librarys for many difrent things , infact i am suprised it has not happend sooner .
However seeing python moving into the enterprise market would be grand
Python has really come on in strides in the past few years
Well i can honestly say i missed that , which is a shame as im sure i would have enjoyed my BeOS experiance far more had i of found it , Perhaps i will break out BeOS max 5 and give it a proper go ,(I refuse to pay 100 euros for beta software such as zeta , Im more used to trying betas for free or being paid for using it).
If it has Bash i think i can feel comfertable and see about installing KSH93 on it as i do love experimenting with OSs and the posix compliance makes this far easier
The main problem with the % system was that it made no sense. . .
,4 is a great game worth buying ,3 is average and enjoyable buy this if you like the genre , 2 is below average and may hold some fun for a fan of the genre of a fanatic(aka a star * game to star * fan), and 1 is tripe ,Now that makes sense .
Smany times did i see games where one would get 85% and another 84% or 86% and what the hell was the 1% , or a game that was called truely average get a score of 75%
so alot of magazines moved to an out of 10 system which still had alot of problems as really scores of 2 , 3 , 4 or even 5 made no difrence
Fair enough some review systems using this had some rules but often it was truely arbitrary.
So nowadays most places have settled on No score just opinion or a 5 star system.
Whilst i really dont respect gamespy reviews($$ etc) the score system makes alot more sense to me 5 is amazing dont miss it
However it needs to be coupled with a good review and good writting.
It was a long while ago , perhaps i missed it(must of been BeOS 4 or something)
? does the terminal on BeOS r5 support full shell functionality ?
I totaly disagree with you on a couple of points here , the unix core is in no way holding OS X back ,It is making it easy to port aplications to it and with the exstensible nature of it and the open core , it makes adding new features a snap(in) . . /etc and a few other key areas ),the rest can eassily be reinstalled from the CD .I imagine if backups are a problem for you then you are atempting to back up the wrong things .
BeOS would have been missing some of the core features that make OS X such as the is with the NeXT base and its excelent rendering and PDF creation.
The file system does have some bloat , although very little . Most of it is very usefull files and when you make your backups i think your making a few key mistakes
The design of a system like this means that you only need to back up a few key areas such as your user folder and perhaps your aplications folder if you wish (personaly i back up
The file meta data is not that bad however it is as of yet not on par with BeOSs excelent meta data types , however wait till tiger for that to change
I agree , Personaly i would not be using OS-X if it had been based on BeOS and i would of more than likely purchased alternate PPC hardware and be running linux or netBSD on it (which i do on most of my machines anyway) . . ,Though as a unix man i enjoy any unix type OS and am far more productive in that enviroment, Whilst BeOS was Posix complient iirc it was in no way a unix (ala no terminal).
The reason alot of people in my position like OS X is the power behind the pretty interface , its a BSD and has all the advantages of a unix system there-in and also it has a gui and API that make it a real plesure to work in
Had it of been based on BeOS instead of NeXTs OS it would have missed the powerfull unix core and quite possibly would have not been as OSS freindly as it is today.
Don't get me wrong i really did like BeOS
Apple did the right thing(lucked out) wilst going with NeXTstep and OpenStep
as that was one dammed fine OS which is still useable today and in the form of OS X it has become updated graphicaly and now supports todays PPC hardware, Oh and they got Steve Jobs back who ("say what you must about the man ") is a rather excelent business man
wow thats an old troll you dont see often ;) most trolls got bored of that one a while ago as most readers of slashdot know about cedega and know that linux distros like SuSE and mandrake are pretty much no brain installs.I was infact just sitting down to a game of morrowin on my laptop running debian just now .. ..
However thank you for reminding me of some of the classics
since i said i was on a mac..
You also forget to add one about 17MB file transfers taking 20 minutes and or a one button mouse quip
OK im not Device programmer , but is it technicaly possible to create a virus that on certain brands of BIOSs using the hardware interface(i know MSI boards support software overclocking and many Graphics cards) could overclock the computer in some way and cause perminant dammage to the system as i am fairly certain you could and if so why is this not a more major worry as this could cause real damage
Well im rather fed up with this wonderfull third class treatment .
.
So my three steps are to
1: Swear and moan about sony screwing up till i feel better
2: buy one from liksang
3: mod chip the machine if needed
Seriously Europe is a very large market and sony is handing this market to nintendo on a platter , not that i mind as the DS is a fine machine.
oh on the issue of mod chips , i do not use them to play pirate games , i use them fro two reasons , playing imports and using homebrew
This is another moronic desicions i have seen come from the current US administration in the field of scientific research. ... Which given the current administrations track record is not a positive sign for world peace . .
What worrys me most is the fact they are diverting the funding into short term yield millitary research project
The 20th centuary can be rememberd for many many things and i think DARPA deserves alot of respect for some of the CS projects it funded , however near totaly ignoring the long term benefits of CS research projects in favour of short term gains will just lead to problems further down the line
I was angry enough when the US gouvernemt decided to halt funding to Stem-cell research and other things , now here is another nail.
Damm , you beat me too it by a minute .
:Install linux .. Buy a Mac (que
i was going to post
Step one
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But to be (as in this thread)origional i will say
I was a bit harsh i do apoligise , i was more meaning the website though which i found hard to read .Alas i am no longer a designer and am already far too busy , though this thread does give us a good excuse to advertise for some ;) . ...I agree though , the OSS world is lacking in designers ,if i wernt so comfertble as a sysadmin i would consider taking back up the design aspect
I shall pass on the site to a few of my freinds who i know are very busy but you never know
I must say as someone who used to work in smalltalk and has now extensive knowlidge of ruby, I would not underestimate ruby on rails . ,,It really is wonderfull.
Smalltalk is great and squeak is very intresting and powerfull , though the development time with ruby and its comparitive speed is of far more intrest, the same can be said for ruby on rails
i shall take a look at squeak as i do have very fond memorys of smalltalk , however i am becoming a strong proponent of ruby day on day so it will take alot to convert me , However i always look forward to eatting my words if it helps make my life easier.
I must say , that as a web dev/designer I really fear the name of the ship will be the "Good ship lolypop" , I dont mean to be rude but wow , this is why there is design school
Ok this is quite unlikely , though what hapens if a troll decideds to waste his money on this and he ends up having a ship named the "USS fart-bonk-poo-sh*t-F*ck".
I mean that could really break the illusion and harm sales.? did the aucthion have any rules to prevent this
If anyone still fell for these after reading the articles.. . .Seriously when that FFXI joke is considerd one of the more devious then i think they should take a look back for inspiration to thinks on the http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/
There was one really good April fools joke on slashdot yesterday , which would have been grand it been only one. The problem is that it was nuzzled in between some of the daft ones and thus made it so easy to pick out
"fool me once shame on me , Fool me twice shame on you , Fool me 7 or more times..."
Seriously some the carefull planing that used to go into these jokes needs to be reintroduced, It seems hoaxing is a dead art
Now some of those were masterfull
That is something i have no problem with , i would prefer to call ARM a research company as IP is such a blanket term that it causes confusion like this . .
I see the same problem with Blogging also , we are dumping far to many diffrent things in the same basket
If they want to take on a bussiness model such as ARM and continue research and development then license the tech fair enough , however if they want to become a leach and live on past glories with license fees and law suits then yes i would love to see them sell it off to a competitor and die . . ;)
We dont need more companys in the ilk of SCO
when i said working for others i ment in the hippy sense
Indeed , a bussiness model in the ilk of ARM would be great , the tech i have been reading up is extremly intresting , but i would hate for them to become a leach company living off pure licenses and lawsuits
MY car gets 50 rods to the hogs head and thats the ways i likes it ...
Or on the other hand , If my calculations are correct in translating litres to gallons and miles to KM then my current car does about 55MPG
"Will the planned restructuring to a pure IP company help?" . .
We do not need another Patent acruing company trying to screw with the tech econmy , Fair enough they jmay have good intentions now with this action but how long before "just this one" mentality takes over and they start sueing left right and center.
If they would like to become a research company working for others to develop tech , then fair enough but not an IP company
I admire the transmeta chips and would think it a great shame if the company goes under , but i don't want to see another patent group
I Hope they get bought out by a firm in the industry
Not forgetting the massive advantage its on-chip memory controler gives it in some areas