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Squeak Group Buys Ship Naming Rights in Gaiman Novel
nadyne writes "Recently, the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund ran an auction for the naming rights for a cruise ship in Neil Gaiman's upcoming novel Anansi Boys. Today, Neil Gaiman reported in a post to his blog that Markus Gaelli won this auction. According to Neil, Markus will use his hard-won auction to promote Squeak. He didn't tell us what the name of the cruise ship will be, but promised to do so in the future. Neil linked to Squeakland, although it's not clear whether Markus is associated with that site or Neil was just using it as a convenient starting point for his readers who might not know anything about Squeak."
Generally, bash is superior to python in those environments where python is not installed.
so what... nevermind ./ed. What was it before? :) Is there any connection to smalltalk?
more to the point: squeakland is
I'll do the stupid thing first and then you shy people follow...
Squeakland.org seems to be slashdotted already for me. Anyone got a mirror, or is it just on my end ?
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At least you know that there isn't some subtle meaning behind the ship name that you think you don't quite get as you read ;)
It's not dead?
What?
http://mirrordot.com/stories/f18bdc72242db088f0b0e 96ae0aca490/index.html
It doesn't help much, but this is what the site says it's about:
WHAT IS SQUEAK? Squeak is a "media authoring tool"-- software that you can download to your computer and then use to create your own media or share and play with others. It is free and downloadable here. If you'd like to get a feel for what Squeak looks like without downloading, view a typical early project for kids in HTML (no download needed). Once you download Squeak you can use the Squeak Tutorials and download the handy Etoys Quickstart Guide.Further information can be found in the Squeak FAQ.
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Ok this is quite unlikely , though what hapens if a troll decideds to waste his money on this and he ends up having a ship named the "USS fart-bonk-poo-sh*t-F*ck".
I mean that could really break the illusion and harm sales.? did the aucthion have any rules to prevent this
The only things certain in war are Propaganda and Death. You can never be sure which is which though
What does it cost to get my promo embedded in the Slashdot front page infotainverts? Is it an auction, or a more "intimate" transaction?
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Disney starts selling off the naming rights to its cartoons?
We'll have the GOP fairy in Peter Pan, Captian SCO, and Wendy will be known as Windows.
Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
http://www.squeakland.org.nyud.net:8090/
Product placement in frickin' books, eh!?
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I must say , that as a web dev/designer I really fear the name of the ship will be the "Good ship lolypop" , I dont mean to be rude but wow , this is why there is design school
The only things certain in war are Propaganda and Death. You can never be sure which is which though
Boxers with writing on their back for off shore gambling
McDonalds now offering money to rappers and musicians everytime they mention a McDonalds product
Baseball parks now without one bare wall. Tear down the Ivy, we need to make room for Bacardi.
Companies using subliminal advertising
20 minutes of commercials at the Theater, the place I paid $10 bucks to see a movie, hijacked by angry Jew adverisors. It is enough to make me want to strap on a bomb and blow myself up.
Super hot attractive knock-out girls on college campuses getting free clothing and music and mp3 players so all the ugly, unnatractive, fat women on campus will follow them and buy the crap the pretty ones get for free. Related- how much free crap did Trump get for his wedding so all the guests would go running to buy it?
And if I hear the "I'm lovin' it" one more time, I am canceling my cable.
Now if I open a copy of Old Man and the Sea, and find his boat is renamed "Bank One boat", I will go apeshit.
Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."
Where will all the advertising stop?
McDonalds now offering money to rappers and musicians everytime they mention a McDonalds product
You know their name.
You repeat their name, you just did, twice. Anf they didn't even have to pay you: They paid someone you pay attention to, and now you're doing it, for free!
It will stop where it stops working, not an inch before that point. And if your behaviour is any indication, they've got miles to go.
Like Lisa and Paul Anka said: "Just don't look! Just don't look!"
Passive resistance man, give it a try.
You can't take the sky from me...
That's such nonsense. Utter, complete bullshit.
In a modern society there cannot be two sets of laws. If the goddamn Muslims want to have their laws enacted, they've got to do it the democractic way. And even then, the laws should be subject to the Constitution and amending that would again require a democratic process.
Likewise, do we want our books to be used to promote products? It would make an unlevel playing field. If book "A" is sponsored by Pepsi because it talks about how good and refreshing a Pepsi is, and Pepsi helps promote it AND pays some fee to the author, how many of the good writiers will want that kind of security. John Girsham must have mentioned Coors beer in A Time to Kill at least 100 times. Whenever it got too stressful, he would have a refreshing Coors and he could solve problems with such clearity. It happened with movies too, when companies started paying money for their products to be used in films.
I dunno, what kind of society will we have? What can I do if my neighbor decides to paint his house like a big Coca~Cola can?
Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."
Back on target, I don't like the trend even thought this is for a good cause. Product placement in books and comics may be a bad thing.
Sorry about the writing. Robot fingers, you know? Cliff Steele in DOOM PATROL #23
Ok, so is Ebay just a huge advertising firm these days? I mean, is the best way to promote your new book (grilled cheese sandwitch, forehead) really Ebay?
Are there that many millionaires out there surfing Ebay that they will buy any and all advertising space in the world? It seems to me like more and more often, the way to make a quick buck is to plant your ad on Ebay and watch the cash flow in.
Are the old methods of getting advertisers (and selling advertisements) just not as effective as Ebay? Will we see Ebay take a nosedive when all of the sudden every auction you see is just a clickthrough to someone trying to promote themselves? couldn't this (presumably, but not to me) well-knonw author have sold his ad space more effectively somewhere else?
Just my two cents...all I know is that he is lucky he didn't end up with a certain Online Casino's name on every page in his book.
You're only listening to the FUD.
Canada allows a third party to arbitrate in legal matters, provided both sides consent to it. Therefore, you could ask a priest/rabbi/imam to help you decide how to conduct your divorce proceedings, or divide up inheritance according to the rules prescribed by the religion. Both sides have to agree to having someone like that, and a Canadian judge must OK everything that the arbitrator decides, before it can take effect. It's not Muslims getting separate laws, they are still bound by Canadian laws, which take precedence. It's not just for Muslims, its for religious Jews and other groups as well. Heck, under this law, Catholics could ask for a priest to preside over the distribution of inheritance, but everyone involved must agree to it, and a Canadian judge must OK any decision the priest makes.
Quit the FUD, its nowhere near as terrifying as you make it out to be.
What tripe.
Tell me, where in America or Europe are Muslim immigrants stoning people? Show me a Muslim leader in America who has called for stoning of anyone. Where are Muslim immigrants oppressing citizens? Wouldn't there have been a cry to stone Clinton for adultery? I heard nothing. I also heard nothing about this Dutch emigration, if its true, you sure its not because of all the drugs and sex?
Germany? Ha. The country banned the religiously-mandated headscarf in schools and many public venues. Muslims worldwide are outraged at being singled out, and you're accusing Germany of kowtowing to the Muslims?
Amen to that, man
I read something last year that said pop stars in China had basically given up making money from direct sales because of all the piracy. Some relied on concert sales, but others would find a corporate sponsor for their song. Since advertising can just be ripped out, they would right the song about the product. Like if it was a love song, they'd be sure and mention their love of Pepsi. Come think of it, isn't this what Celine Dion tried to do for Chrysler here in the U.S.?
Integrated product placement is the wave of the future... but its easier to do in IP, which has very little innate value and great advertising potential, then in manufactured goods.
Still, perhaps we'll reach a day when every item has product placement in it or on it, and is thus free. Expensive products will be advertised on cheaper products, and more expensive products will be advertised on merely expensive products. Of course, that advertising budget has to come from somewhere, so in the end of the day you will have to turn over your entire salary to one company's really expensive product that spirals down the proceeds to everything else you would normally have pay for but now get for free with advertising on it. I'm betting that company will be Microsoft...
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We have paid product placement in movies... And now they are coming to books? WTF?
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Why would I want to give up the power, speed and flexibility of my dedicated webserver and database just to be able to use a web development framework? Its rediculous to re-invent the wheel poorly for everything you do, and I sure as hell don't want to give up the power of postgresql for a cobbled together half database. Especially since I have other non-web apps using the same database. As much as I dislike both ruby and rails, at least rails lets me use any fcgi capabale webserver I want, and whatever database I want.
Gay rights in UK: snubbed to save the Muslim vote.
What can I do if my neighbor decides to paint his house like a big Coca~Cola can? You can move to a farm with no neighbours in sight. Or maybe in Siberia. Or you can paint your house too, say to a hamburger.
In one sense this marketing strategy has already worked -- I have read Neil Gaiman and now have tried to follow the link (initially more interested in Gaiman references that programming tools). Though squeak.org is slashdotted, your link to seaside.st is not, and the tutorial references www.sqeak.org. While I'm not a web designer for a living, I find myself doing a fair amount of HTML, CGI, and Perl work. I will have to check this out in more detail latter. So the gambit has already gotten them a possible user.
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Ruby is the second slowest scripting language (PHP is slower), and its by a huge margin. Python is significantly faster, and can often be sped up even more using psyco. Even better, use pike. Its about as fast as python with psyco, but its portable, more feature complete (?:, switch, for), and has a nice, sane C++ like syntax.
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Case of an author selling "name space" in his novels seems to be another bit of evidence supporting Klein's claims. There is something very close to intellectual prostitution in this.
I hadn't heard of pike, so I checked it out. It seems to miss the point of scripting languages entirely -- you have to declare the datatypes of variables just like inconvenient compiled languages like Java or C++. The whole point of scripting is to get away from low-level tedium like that. Sure that might make it fast, but if you are going to deal with that stuff, why not just use a compiled language? IMHO, if speed is an issue (and I find it rarely is), use SWIG to write the speed critical parts in a compiled language and write the rest in a scripting language.
This is not flamebait... If you have had to live with a vision disorder you would know the problems bad design causes.
I dont see why pointing this out makes a post flamebait , Too often do moderators act like sheep , like the post above i post anonymously as i don't want the whole of the readership here to give me any sympathy
Bad design is a problem and can cause problems , jesus mods this is not flamebait , everytimes someone says something you disagree with you dont mod them down .....
Did you see that link to the inapropriate logo near the bottom of Gaiman's site? Damn, what were those people thinking. (Well, I guess not what I was.)
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The problem is that unlike the average Catholic girl, the average Muslim girl is going to be so brainwashed by her peers and elders that she won't know she has any alternative to the virtual slavery of shari'a. Allowing shari'a-based arbitration condemns Muslim women to permanent second-class citizen status.
Media that can be recorded and distributed can be recorded and distributed.
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There is no reason scripting languages have to be dynamically typed. Its not low level tedium, its static typing, which many people consider a feature, not a problem. Things like memory management and pointer arithmetic are low level tedium.
Having programmed in perl, php, python, C, C++ and VB, I find I am just as productive and write code just as fast in pike as I did in perl and python. Do you really think "int i = 0" instead of "i = 0" is what makes C and C++ take longer to code in? No, its the lack of advanced data types, the manual memory allocation/deallocation, and the compile/debug cycle.
Pike's static typing allows for errors to be found at "compile time" instead of run time (meaning when you run the script, instead of when the script executes the actual line with the problem. And you can do things like "int|float" to take either an int or float, or there is the mixed datatype that can be anything. Its really not something to be concerned about.
I just recently wrote a large multi-user network server application with encrypted communications in a week. My previous python version is 96 lines longer, took me about the same amount of time to write, and handles 60% as many users before using all my CPU.
And as for speed, sometimes it does matter. Like python or perl, you can write a C module for pike to speed up certain things, but with any language, the base language itself can't be sped up that way, things like loops, conditionals, object creation, method invocation need to be fast in the language itself. Why would I want to waste my time writing parts of my code in C and part in pythong to make it fast enough to work, when I could write it all in pike and have it fast enough without having to resort to C? Like I said, writing in pike or python is pretty much the same development-speed wise, so why choose the slower, less feature complete option?
"How is the license restrictive? The GPL is the issue here, not playing well, polluting everything it touches. The GPL wasn't written for image-based languages like Smalltalk or Lisp, and if you license something under the GPL, by being loaded into the image the licenses are all made GPL. That's a problem with the GPL, not with the SqueakL. If you can convince the GPL to be changed so that these problems don't exist, what else is there?"
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An interesting "loophole". The GPL being a non-agnostic license when it comes to languages. Although isn't the "linking" issue a gray area, even if one's talking about imperative languages. And how would the GPL fit other paradigms? Functional? Declarative?
"Squeak is open in a way, culturally and technologically, that most FOSS developers have no idea."
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"Fine. But let's not pretend that Smalltalk is an alternative to a
serious language like CL. Smalltalk has no preprocessor, and only single
inheritance. It has many fine qualities, but will not scale to Real Work. "
Try it and then tell me what you think its trying to be, Its very much a scripting language. Java and C# are less convenient because they are more verbose (have to explicitly create a class to do anything), and they still have to be compiled. You can argue that python is trying to be a competitor to java and C# just as well as you can argue that pike is. What tasks do you use scripting languages for exactly?
Notice how every statically typed language that tries to guess what your variables are lets you declare their type because there are many cases where the compiler cannot tell what you want? Why bother trying to save time by making things inconsistant, when its not actually a time sink declaring variables?
Actually, studies showed that American Muslims had a higher than average number of college graduates, last I heard.
Your problem would make sense, but thats not how the system works or will work. It has to go before a Canadian judge, who will ask both parties if they are sure that they wish to submit to this arbitration, and explain to them the options. If the woman declines of her own free will, the judge will instead take it through the Canadian judicial system.
Your claim that the Muslim woman will be pressured into a decision isn't specific to Muslims. Many Hindu parents try to arrange marriages for their children, Orthodox and Hasidic Jewish families have their own strict rules that apply to women. Many Christian families are pushing for laws that allow the parents to prevent their daughters from having an abortion. Everyone tries to pressure women, its a fact of life, but you cannot blame it on everyone or religion. Remember, Islam doesn't oppress women, men do.
Shari'a doesn't make women second-class citizens, Middle Eastern governments that make their own laws and call it Shari'a. Saudi Arabia doesn't allow women to drive, is that a part of the religion? No! Go ask any female Muslim scholar, there are plenty out there. Ever wonder why there are so many Muslim women, married and unmarried in favor of this arbitration idea? I'm not worried.
My earlier points are still valid.
The primary reasons for Dutch emigration, according to the article, are due to work reasons, to join a partner, tax benefits, and cheaper housing. No mention of "Muslim" anywhere in the article.
As for gay rights snubbed to please Muslims, gay marriage in America is being banned to please Christians, and similiar efforts in Europe are under way to please the Catholics, and I imagine gay rights in Israel are under attack by religious Jewish groups as well. Why single out the Muslims?