The same as GNOME? Go to 10.10 maybe. Probably Mac OS will reach version 11 before that, though. I'm really curious what Apple will bring in the future, especially since Leopard (10.5) is scheduled to be released at the same time as Vista (early '07).
I didn't mean skipping numbers, I merely meant quickly pushing up version numbers. FreeBSD was 4.X for very long, and then after only very few years at 5 it turned 6.X.
NetBSD was 1.X for VERY long, turned 2.0 with multithreading support (and SMP IIRC?), and now is already at 3.0. Don't ask me why...
The same is true for Firefox, where I can't see why it's not just 1.6.
That's what I was saying. When nobody is willing to work for that wage, basically you can't lower the wage anymore, because you won't find employees.
OTOH if you spend a lot, you might even find *great* employees that work 10x as good as the average employee, so it's worth looking.
In Germany the beginner's salary used to be around 40k, but not anymore. I think when I graduate next year I'd be lucky to find something nice in software dev that pays 35. Depends on the job, on where I'd have to move, and the comparable job situation in other countries I could work in.
When I said IT, I meant to include software dev, sorry for the confusion.
Weird. There's nobody (unless there are unions) who forces IT wages high. It's an agreement between worker and employer. I'd work for less than what was a typical beginner's wage in 2000. Probably today they won't offer 40k to college grads anymore, so wages have sunken.
Of course, if nobody *accepts* the employer's offer (maybe 20k for a good IT job), then the wage can't be lowered to that level.
Sorry, but not all kids need to be commanded by authority. When I was 12 (I think that's a fair age for people to choose for themselves) I knew exactly what I wanted, and haven't since really changed in that respect.
To say that somebody needs to be dominated is just the repressive attitude that people don't need. If somebody doesn't feel strong enough to choose for themselves, that's a different thing. They deserve all the help they can get, and that's what loving family and friends are for! Yet, this doesn't justify that all kids need - until they reach some arbitrary legal age - to be forced around, following commands, as their parents see fit.
Even in a free world, without polit-bullshit, there are perfectly adequate solutions: don't make kids; don't marry.
If anybody chooses to make kids, they should accept that those are free human beings, and should choose for themselves how to live. Oh, and there's still the concept of *talk*.
They haven't come for the Communists in Europe at all. Germany and France at least are chock full of Communists and Socialists, and public consensus is on their side.
But what do I say - we've had years of stagnation, where the US still did very well economically...
Ok, maybe there are lost of weirdos. That wouldn't (doesn't, as I live in Germany, where parliament seats are determined by nationwide percentages, not winner-takes-all) stop me from voting libertarian.
OTOH, many left-wingers prefer the easy way, to force everybody to agree to their policies and simply vote socialist (again, in some European countries with more than two parties).
That's cool. Like any other country on earth they ask you to cut your right hand off to feed it to the dragon, so that he has enough strength to subdue your whole village, but at least they give you the saw you need to do that. Nice.
That said, I'd like my government (Germany) to do the same, or - even better - to publish some compact, readable source to fill out a form to send via email. Oh wait - I think they need me to sign my own form of slavery.
Sony phones are a good compromise. They can load all stuff on your SIM card onto the phone, and you can tell it to copy all internal phone data to the SIM (if it fits).
I mostly wonder why modern SIM cards can't hold a little more data, say, 4MB or something like that...
You should ask how cheap you can get a one- or two-year contract, if you don't buy a phone from them. Some German providers give you something like 100 in return, but then you're usually better off to simply buy a subsidized phone and sell it on ebay.
... and and and some crap of a proprietary software that often you can't even replace, and no keyboard, and a screen even tinier than any laptop (and for two years, my early student days, I had a laptop at 800x600, so I know what small means).
I mean - what can you actually DO with an average cellphone?
Sure, for us spoiled Western guys, this laptop won't be the Big Thing, but I still like some of its features (completely off-grid operation through electricity generation; sun-reabable screen; durable, robust), and at $150 it might be worth trying.
Why should self-compilation give you ANY performance at all? Compilation is nothing but the automated translation of source code into binary machine code (put simply).
Now assuming that most people use the same recent version of a given software, and the same recent version of a compiler (like GCC), and a few reasonable optimization flags, why should the resulting compiled binary differ AT ALL across different systems? What difference is there between compiling yourself, or having someone else compile it FOR THE SAME SYSTEM (say, Debian, NetBSD, or Gentoo), and having you install a binary BIT-FOR-BIT copy of that binary?
Right. If something sucks, the problems always is money, and the solution to throw more money at it. If it still sucks, that's a sign you need to increase the amount of money thrown.
Other than that I agree with you; just wanted to mention that the last measure isn't really a good one in general, unless you know *exactly* what the problem is.
Well, if you don't need a PCI card, you can probably use the PCI slot (I hope they have one!) for another networking card (unlike the Mac mini I'm sitting at).
I ran an Eden 533 for a while, and did just that...
That's bad, especially if you consider that most chips are (AFAIK) ok until they reach about 95C. I had an Eden 533 which got really hot, but it never had any real problems (except its abysmal sound, networking, and graphics chip...).
Well, I sure hope these new beasts are at least reasonable in performance, in price (up to recently the old Eden boards never really fell in price, while other CPUs ramped up speed and lowered power consumption), and of course in temperature.
I'm not saying "protect by force", maybe only by contract. It seems ok to me to only offer a consumer a work if he says he won't redistribute it. OTOH, how would a company find out who put a copy on the internet? Maybe we're already almost there with watermarks inside the media files (but I'm sure those can be removed once the algorithm is known). Probably these contracts would also include draconian punishments, and most people would still sign them (because you don't pirate music, right?). Maybe you'd have to sign that you allow your ISP(s) to give out your IP to record companies if they ask etc.
I'm just saying this because some people think that in an anarchist world everything would be their paradise. All that'd be different is that such a world would be free of force, and more open to change, but overall we'd have many of the same restrictions in place as now. Maybe there'd be competition without those restrictions, though.
Correct would be "hier ist die Maus", because mouse is feminine in German. "Die Sendung mit der Maus" means "show with the mouse", where "der" is dativ case.
(don't mean to nitpick, just thought I'd correct it)
Ok, that's true, but I'm not sure it works for everybody and everything. Music is fine, but what about creating a movie? Who would employ you to create movies, compared to the current situation where you can create and license the movie to theaters? Or games?
I think when people can freely copy movies and games, then what's the point of making those kinds of content? I don't see where filmmakers or game designers will be employed by consumers. Right now they sell *products*, not services.
Slashdot Mirror
The same as GNOME? Go to 10.10 maybe. Probably Mac OS will reach version 11 before that, though. I'm really curious what Apple will bring in the future, especially since Leopard (10.5) is scheduled to be released at the same time as Vista (early '07).
I didn't mean skipping numbers, I merely meant quickly pushing up version numbers. FreeBSD was 4.X for very long, and then after only very few years at 5 it turned 6.X.
NetBSD was 1.X for VERY long, turned 2.0 with multithreading support (and SMP IIRC?), and now is already at 3.0. Don't ask me why...
The same is true for Firefox, where I can't see why it's not just 1.6.
ok, some features most users won't even notice, and that deserves a bump to 2.0...?
Well, Slackware did it. FreeBSD did it.
Even NetBSD did it.
I'm waiting for Mac OS 11.
That's what I was saying. When nobody is willing to work for that wage, basically you can't lower the wage anymore, because you won't find employees.
OTOH if you spend a lot, you might even find *great* employees that work 10x as good as the average employee, so it's worth looking.
In Germany the beginner's salary used to be around 40k, but not anymore. I think when I graduate next year I'd be lucky to find something nice in software dev that pays 35. Depends on the job, on where I'd have to move, and the comparable job situation in other countries I could work in.
When I said IT, I meant to include software dev, sorry for the confusion.
Well, how much does it cost to teach somebody the one skill he lacks? I think the problem is manageable, that is, unless the problem is the manager ;)
Weird. There's nobody (unless there are unions) who forces IT wages high. It's an agreement between worker and employer. I'd work for less than what was a typical beginner's wage in 2000. Probably today they won't offer 40k to college grads anymore, so wages have sunken.
Of course, if nobody *accepts* the employer's offer (maybe 20k for a good IT job), then the wage can't be lowered to that level.
Yes/no. Of course parents are responsible. But that doesn't mean they have any right to force their kids. The kid has to have freedoms too.
Probably with 12 you shouldn't watch porn, but other decisions could be made.
Again: if kids *want* more help, they can ask, and the parent should/would be responsible.
Excuse me? I had my weekly allowance. Of course I couldn't drive a car, but even today I can't drive an 18-ton truck, so what?
I don't think learning has much to do with age, only with understanding, and experience (that you make).
Sorry, but not all kids need to be commanded by authority. When I was 12 (I think that's a fair age for people to choose for themselves) I knew exactly what I wanted, and haven't since really changed in that respect.
To say that somebody needs to be dominated is just the repressive attitude that people don't need. If somebody doesn't feel strong enough to choose for themselves, that's a different thing. They deserve all the help they can get, and that's what loving family and friends are for! Yet, this doesn't justify that all kids need - until they reach some arbitrary legal age - to be forced around, following commands, as their parents see fit.
Even in a free world, without polit-bullshit, there are perfectly adequate solutions: don't make kids; don't marry.
If anybody chooses to make kids, they should accept that those are free human beings, and should choose for themselves how to live. Oh, and there's still the concept of *talk*.
It really shouldn't be too hard to simply handle this as a web application, or at least as an XML web service.
They haven't come for the Communists in Europe at all. Germany and France at least are chock full of Communists and Socialists, and public consensus is on their side.
But what do I say - we've had years of stagnation, where the US still did very well economically...
Ok, maybe there are lost of weirdos. That wouldn't (doesn't, as I live in Germany, where parliament seats are determined by nationwide percentages, not winner-takes-all) stop me from voting libertarian.
OTOH, many left-wingers prefer the easy way, to force everybody to agree to their policies and simply vote socialist (again, in some European countries with more than two parties).
That's cool. Like any other country on earth they ask you to cut your right hand off to feed it to the dragon, so that he has enough strength to subdue your whole village, but at least they give you the saw you need to do that. Nice.
That said, I'd like my government (Germany) to do the same, or - even better - to publish some compact, readable source to fill out a form to send via email. Oh wait - I think they need me to sign my own form of slavery.
Sony phones are a good compromise. They can load all stuff on your SIM card onto the phone, and you can tell it to copy all internal phone data to the SIM (if it fits).
I mostly wonder why modern SIM cards can't hold a little more data, say, 4MB or something like that...
You should ask how cheap you can get a one- or two-year contract, if you don't buy a phone from them. Some German providers give you something like 100 in return, but then you're usually better off to simply buy a subsidized phone and sell it on ebay.
... and and and some crap of a proprietary software that often you can't even replace, and no keyboard, and a screen even tinier than any laptop (and for two years, my early student days, I had a laptop at 800x600, so I know what small means).
I mean - what can you actually DO with an average cellphone?
Sure, for us spoiled Western guys, this laptop won't be the Big Thing, but I still like some of its features (completely off-grid operation through electricity generation; sun-reabable screen; durable, robust), and at $150 it might be worth trying.
Why should self-compilation give you ANY performance at all? Compilation is nothing but the automated translation of source code into binary machine code (put simply).
Now assuming that most people use the same recent version of a given software, and the same recent version of a compiler (like GCC), and a few reasonable optimization flags, why should the resulting compiled binary differ AT ALL across different systems? What difference is there between compiling yourself, or having someone else compile it FOR THE SAME SYSTEM (say, Debian, NetBSD, or Gentoo), and having you install a binary BIT-FOR-BIT copy of that binary?
Sorry, but are you guys on drugs?
to invest in more staff, more training ...
Right. If something sucks, the problems always is money, and the solution to throw more money at it. If it still sucks, that's a sign you need to increase the amount of money thrown.
Other than that I agree with you; just wanted to mention that the last measure isn't really a good one in general, unless you know *exactly* what the problem is.
Well, if you don't need a PCI card, you can probably use the PCI slot (I hope they have one!) for another networking card (unlike the Mac mini I'm sitting at).
I ran an Eden 533 for a while, and did just that...
That's bad, especially if you consider that most chips are (AFAIK) ok until they reach about 95C. I had an Eden 533 which got really hot, but it never had any real problems (except its abysmal sound, networking, and graphics chip...).
Well, I sure hope these new beasts are at least reasonable in performance, in price (up to recently the old Eden boards never really fell in price, while other CPUs ramped up speed and lowered power consumption), and of course in temperature.
But this one is better than GNU/TURD, which will only be ready next year.
I'm not saying "protect by force", maybe only by contract. It seems ok to me to only offer a consumer a work if he says he won't redistribute it. OTOH, how would a company find out who put a copy on the internet? Maybe we're already almost there with watermarks inside the media files (but I'm sure those can be removed once the algorithm is known). Probably these contracts would also include draconian punishments, and most people would still sign them (because you don't pirate music, right?). Maybe you'd have to sign that you allow your ISP(s) to give out your IP to record companies if they ask etc.
I'm just saying this because some people think that in an anarchist world everything would be their paradise. All that'd be different is that such a world would be free of force, and more open to change, but overall we'd have many of the same restrictions in place as now. Maybe there'd be competition without those restrictions, though.
Correct would be "hier ist die Maus", because mouse is feminine in German. "Die Sendung mit der Maus" means "show with the mouse", where "der" is dativ case.
(don't mean to nitpick, just thought I'd correct it)
Ok, that's true, but I'm not sure it works for everybody and everything. Music is fine, but what about creating a movie? Who would employ you to create movies, compared to the current situation where you can create and license the movie to theaters? Or games?
I think when people can freely copy movies and games, then what's the point of making those kinds of content? I don't see where filmmakers or game designers will be employed by consumers. Right now they sell *products*, not services.