Funny, that's when I started laughing at them. If we weren't totally fucked then the jokes and rhetoric would annoy me since they would only be counterproductive. Since we are totally fucked anyways you might as well laugh.
Because it isn't profitable in the short run, and once you make the breakthrough you are pretty much stuck sharing it with everyone. Patent issues aside, it is kind of tough to keep some scientific advance under wraps (no, really, nuclear reactors work by magic, no atom splitting here, quit trying to copy me!).
Ultimately the money has to come from somewhere, so unless you want to walk door to door with a collection box for your research you are pretty much stuck working to convince someone with a big pocketbook how important your project might be if you ever make progress on it. Or you could just go do the research for free and beg for a living at night. Then there is also that problem of having to go mine all the minerals and such required to manufacture all of your equipment, and then manufacture the equipment...and so on.
None of this has anything to do with "beholden to evil unless someone pays us". It is that kind of ultraliberal atitude that feeds the ultraconservatives the fodder they need to keep this kind of crap from happening.
See, what we ARE beholden to is food and water and shelter, and without getting paid it is damned difficult to have food and water and shelter. Unless of course you think everyone doing good things works for free and they live in magical happy trees that provide food and shelter and everything. Even people that volunteer work somewhere or have some other income to live on.
More to the point is that military developments almost without fail make it into the public if they have a significant public use. Flight, radar, medicine, etc. Hell, the military has probably had the best return on investment of any government run endeavor. So many people bitch about the military, but it was military members that were first putting their lives at risk testing things like supersonic aircraft and space travel. Guess who had the joy of being the human guinea pigs for things like the Anthrax vaccines.
If you really wanna bitch DARPA will take their internet and go home...
Now, I'm not terribly surprised here. I can't imagine why a Republican would want to use taxpayer money to pay for lawyers for an organization that dumps so much cash into the opposing party. Now, they are more than happy to use taxpayer money on organizations that favor Republicans.
The real question here is are the flying pigs wearing lipstick?
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Oh yes, because I know I gave a rats ass about my HS grades. Getting good grades in math sucks. I am good at math, but I learned early on I don't like number crunching when I have a computer that is very capable of doing it for me. I only need to know enough to "teach" the computer how to do the problems. Now, in reality, getting an A in an advanced math class involves "Do problems 1 - 50, show all of your work." Then realize that each problem takes a minimum of a 1/4 page of paper to show your work, and god forbid you have poor handwriting. If you get lucky you will have a teacher that doesn't weight your homework as the biggest portion of your grade.
Nope because that could get poisoned too, and people are an easily frightened bunch. Your only safe bet is processed and packaged water. Are we still talking about software and standards?
Well you make it a personal expense of the guilty to prove that they are innocent and now the innocent don't have to pay for it anymore except for the....
Ok seriously...how is it that you have material that dense in your head without it creating its own gravitational field...
This is entirely off topic, but is your sig seriously a knick knack paddy wack/Dune combo? Mod me down all you want, but for the love of all that is holy please please someone stab him in the eye!
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Who cares if they are conservative or not so long as they learn to STFU and color. Do you think conservatives give a shit if you join with them? It has been my experience that thy would rather silence you than convert you anyways.
Good job on reading the article. You know, the part where every other paragraph other than what was cut for the summary points this out and how to defend against this very thing.
To be fair my experience with Secure Computing has been great. I haven't dealt with a lot of their stuff, but the Sidewinder Firewall is an incredible firewall.
Ok, look, I am tired of this crap, this is such a waste of time and money. Anyone in security will tell you blacklisting is a horrible and ineffective way to handle things. Whitelisting is the only reasonably efficient way. It also isn't fair to keep harrassing innocent people. We need to quit investing so much time and money into catching or detering bad guys and fully adopt guilty until proven innocent.
It is much easier to just force everyone to prove they are innocent before allowing them to do anything. Even when false positives occur in a system like this they are still more likely to keep the majority of bad guys out rather than letting the majority in. This will stop innocent people from being harrassed since they have already proved themselves before being let in.
Actually, the real purpose is to pull out those kids who are nervous about leaving home for the first time going to college or something. That way they can scare them into not turning into one of those dirty liberal elitist intellectuals that would dare question the authority of the system.
The problem is right now it is easier for the big guys to shut down the little guys using vague or overreaching patents than it is for the little guys to fire back against an army of lawyers. I don't care how well your patent may be written, unless you have a truckload of cash you are going to have a hard time breaking through the army of patent lawyers that MS, IBM, etc all have. I suspect that if things get fixed we will see a horde of new players jump on the scene unencumbered by ebay,amazon,MS style patent attacks to shut them down. When these companies can use flawed patents to maintain a monopoly then getting bitten by little guys who might win from time to time is hardly an issue. Sure they may lose a bit of money, but in the long run they will more than have made it up with monopoly status profits.
I wouldn't call it common sense so much as business sense. It was only a matter of time before people with lots of money got upset by this mess. Sure it was great when they could use it to squash every potential newcomer, but now that it is costing the big guys money they want to ditch it.
Conversely, if this DOES lead to some fixes, and then patents have to be really innovative and the system works as planned you can bet your ass the big dogs will push hard to go RIGHT back to the previous practice of patenting everything under the sun after a few small guys stick a big enough thorn in their side. Small guy comes up with something truely innovative, patents it, and now the big dogs are on his leash if they want to use it... Yeah...that will last long...we already saw it collapse once.
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Funny, that's when I started laughing at them. If we weren't totally fucked then the jokes and rhetoric would annoy me since they would only be counterproductive. Since we are totally fucked anyways you might as well laugh.
Because it isn't profitable in the short run, and once you make the breakthrough you are pretty much stuck sharing it with everyone. Patent issues aside, it is kind of tough to keep some scientific advance under wraps (no, really, nuclear reactors work by magic, no atom splitting here, quit trying to copy me!).
Ultimately the money has to come from somewhere, so unless you want to walk door to door with a collection box for your research you are pretty much stuck working to convince someone with a big pocketbook how important your project might be if you ever make progress on it. Or you could just go do the research for free and beg for a living at night. Then there is also that problem of having to go mine all the minerals and such required to manufacture all of your equipment, and then manufacture the equipment...and so on.
None of this has anything to do with "beholden to evil unless someone pays us". It is that kind of ultraliberal atitude that feeds the ultraconservatives the fodder they need to keep this kind of crap from happening.
See, what we ARE beholden to is food and water and shelter, and without getting paid it is damned difficult to have food and water and shelter. Unless of course you think everyone doing good things works for free and they live in magical happy trees that provide food and shelter and everything. Even people that volunteer work somewhere or have some other income to live on.
More to the point is that military developments almost without fail make it into the public if they have a significant public use. Flight, radar, medicine, etc. Hell, the military has probably had the best return on investment of any government run endeavor. So many people bitch about the military, but it was military members that were first putting their lives at risk testing things like supersonic aircraft and space travel. Guess who had the joy of being the human guinea pigs for things like the Anthrax vaccines.
If you really wanna bitch DARPA will take their internet and go home...
So no more jokes about Republicans or Democrats anymore?
Now, I'm not terribly surprised here. I can't imagine why a Republican would want to use taxpayer money to pay for lawyers for an organization that dumps so much cash into the opposing party. Now, they are more than happy to use taxpayer money on organizations that favor Republicans.
The real question here is are the flying pigs wearing lipstick?
Repeating the rap thing isn't helping your cause. :)
Please find your CD jacket, turn it upside down, light a candle, and read the reflection of the antipiracy sticker in the mirror. This is your 50 digit registration code. Once you enter your registration code the software will use your modem to dial 1-900-act-ive1 to activate your software. If you do not have a modem please write down the code on a 3x5 piece of paper and include a self addressed stamped envelope and we will send you a second registration code that you will enter before calling 1-900-act-ive2 to speak with a live representitive that does not speak your native language that will give you your activation code.
Once activation is complete every time you start the software it will connect to our server that is online most of the time to verify your access. This process is very quick due to our server's high speed 56k modem. Also, periodically while you are using the software it will take a screenshot and send it to the server for a specialist to determine if you are using the software in accordance with the EULA. This is to ensure the highest quality service support.
The marketing and legal departments, duh.
Seriously...special place in hell...
Oh yes, because I know I gave a rats ass about my HS grades. Getting good grades in math sucks. I am good at math, but I learned early on I don't like number crunching when I have a computer that is very capable of doing it for me. I only need to know enough to "teach" the computer how to do the problems. Now, in reality, getting an A in an advanced math class involves "Do problems 1 - 50, show all of your work." Then realize that each problem takes a minimum of a 1/4 page of paper to show your work, and god forbid you have poor handwriting. If you get lucky you will have a teacher that doesn't weight your homework as the biggest portion of your grade.
I suspect it is more related to multiple personality than it is social mobility. Damned spelling nazi...
Nope because that could get poisoned too, and people are an easily frightened bunch. Your only safe bet is processed and packaged water. Are we still talking about software and standards?
You know there is a special place in hell reserved for you right? :)
Well you make it a personal expense of the guilty to prove that they are innocent and now the innocent don't have to pay for it anymore except for the....
Ok seriously...how is it that you have material that dense in your head without it creating its own gravitational field...
What does it matter if they poisoned the largest well? The PHBs are going to want the "safe" alternative.
This is entirely off topic, but is your sig seriously a knick knack paddy wack/Dune combo? Mod me down all you want, but for the love of all that is holy please please someone stab him in the eye!
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I think that was the whole point. Microsoft poisoned the well so they can sell bottled water.
Who cares if they are conservative or not so long as they learn to STFU and color. Do you think conservatives give a shit if you join with them? It has been my experience that thy would rather silence you than convert you anyways.
Good job on reading the article. You know, the part where every other paragraph other than what was cut for the summary points this out and how to defend against this very thing.
To be fair my experience with Secure Computing has been great. I haven't dealt with a lot of their stuff, but the Sidewinder Firewall is an incredible firewall.
Ok, look, I am tired of this crap, this is such a waste of time and money. Anyone in security will tell you blacklisting is a horrible and ineffective way to handle things. Whitelisting is the only reasonably efficient way. It also isn't fair to keep harrassing innocent people. We need to quit investing so much time and money into catching or detering bad guys and fully adopt guilty until proven innocent.
It is much easier to just force everyone to prove they are innocent before allowing them to do anything. Even when false positives occur in a system like this they are still more likely to keep the majority of bad guys out rather than letting the majority in. This will stop innocent people from being harrassed since they have already proved themselves before being let in.
Actually, the real purpose is to pull out those kids who are nervous about leaving home for the first time going to college or something. That way they can scare them into not turning into one of those dirty liberal elitist intellectuals that would dare question the authority of the system.
The problem is right now it is easier for the big guys to shut down the little guys using vague or overreaching patents than it is for the little guys to fire back against an army of lawyers. I don't care how well your patent may be written, unless you have a truckload of cash you are going to have a hard time breaking through the army of patent lawyers that MS, IBM, etc all have. I suspect that if things get fixed we will see a horde of new players jump on the scene unencumbered by ebay,amazon,MS style patent attacks to shut them down. When these companies can use flawed patents to maintain a monopoly then getting bitten by little guys who might win from time to time is hardly an issue. Sure they may lose a bit of money, but in the long run they will more than have made it up with monopoly status profits.
I wouldn't call it common sense so much as business sense. It was only a matter of time before people with lots of money got upset by this mess. Sure it was great when they could use it to squash every potential newcomer, but now that it is costing the big guys money they want to ditch it.
Conversely, if this DOES lead to some fixes, and then patents have to be really innovative and the system works as planned you can bet your ass the big dogs will push hard to go RIGHT back to the previous practice of patenting everything under the sun after a few small guys stick a big enough thorn in their side. Small guy comes up with something truely innovative, patents it, and now the big dogs are on his leash if they want to use it... Yeah...that will last long...we already saw it collapse once.